Yeah, it still matters for systems programming - OS kernels, drivers, that sort of thing. You know, the kind of things people use C for. When it comes to application programing - the stuff that's built on top of the system - that's when code readability becomes more important, and people start using higher level languages like C++ and Java. The example is defunct in Java since there are no pointers and you can't evaluate an int as a boolean.
This stuff has been around for years. Asynchronous XML transfer - flash has been doing that since version 5 (~2000) and MSXML has been doing that since uhh IE 4. It's just now that more browsers support this that some clever bod decided to write a wrapper API to support multiple browsers, and some marketing bod comes along and coins a term and thinks he invented the whole thing. Nothing new here, move along now.
Even ATI acknowledges there will probably be no performance benefits to bumping the memory support from 256MB to 512MB as the cards are 'intended to demonstrate the next-generation capability to gamers."
I beleive that paraphrases your point quite nicely.
It's Java, not JAVA. Java is a name not an acronym.
all the people I taking JAVA classes were saying "I just can't get my program to work!"
That's because there is a real learning curve with Java. You can't expect to know J2SE and J2EE within a couple of weeks of starting to learn it, because the subject matter is huge. That's also the reason Java programmers get paid more.
I call bullshit. The hotspot JIT VM runs java mostly as fast as C++ and faster in some cases. Can you say the same for PHP, an interpreted scripting language? I think not.
Arrogance? Telling me I can't drive an SUV while stumping for power in one, that's arrogance.
Not quite sure what that's supposed to mean.
Furthermore, we pour millions of dollars into countries to help them and even help them have better, cleaner sources of power but WE're the arrogant ones.
Riiiiiight..! Like your country gives a damn about any other country. Your country is more likely to invade another under false pretenses to steal its oil reserves...... oh, wait, you just did!
We drive our SUV's because we've earned them.
Just you keep telling yourself that. Because your attitudes to work make you burn out early doesn't give you the right to pollute more than everyone else.. come on. Oh, and next time I see your fat redneck face in your SUV behind me, I'll drive slowly just to piss you off.
Nothing against Birmingham, but it has a it has a bit of an image problem. I was born near Coventry, I know the centre of Birmingham is a great place to go shopping and there are lots of interesting things to see and do.
The U.S. is still the biggest pollutor in the world and produces more waste per person than any other country. Take SUVs for example - people in the U.S. love them.
I find it a bot selfish that some countries are trying very hard, and the U.S. is putting out more than their fair share of pollution, making things worse for the rest of us. But then, why would the U.S. care? The arrogance of the world's most powerful nation means it's not important to tow the line.
I've been in the UK too many times and for too long at a time... I used to spend weeks at the time in Birmimgham during the mid 80's
Hell, you must know a lot about the UK;)
Birmingham FFS. Try London, the Cotswolds, the Lake District, North Wales. And the UK was deep in recession in the eighties - it's picked up a bit since then.
Same as you but my wife is Mexican and my car is French. She's a bit tempramental sometimes, but she doesn't have the mental problems present in British and American women (self obsession, materialism, status anxiety etc etc)
"Case sensitive" means that "A" is not equal to "a". "Case *IN*sensitive" means that "A" is equal to "a".
Everyone here knows that already.
The fact is, "case sensitive" (or more accuratly "bit pattern sensitive") is the correct way to do a file system.
You're wrong - this is merely your opinion. Your opinions are not necessarily facts.
Anybody who thinks there is some advantage of programming a user interface issue into the underlying system is just completely clueless (and it is alarming how many people are clueless here!)
Oh, another person who thinks he is far superior to everyone else, despite showing below average articulacy. I gave up reading your post after this point. Please think about why this sort of nonsense gives slashdot a bad name, and write something more intelligent next time.
Unix was designed in the 60s. I guess it made more sense then. It takes processing power to convert strings to a different case.
Personally I don't see the point of case insensitive file systems. Having a case sensitive file system makes you think about the casing you use. In my experience, windows developers tend to use a variety of casing in their code. This seems messy to me.
Just becuase it's doable doesn't mean it should be done, neither should it be done because windows does it. Is there a better reason, or is it merely your opinion?
As someone else rightly said, another one who has never been a novice. Presumably your leap to knowledgeability has been overnight, and you have not had to deal with the consequences of the kinds of problems that arise when using these kinds of languages. If you had, you would know that 99 times out of 100 you will ship a better product faster with less stress when working in a managed environment.
Why anyone would deliberately choose to program in such inherently insecure environments, and further advocate their use for day to day development is beyond me. It sucks of masochism and intellectual snobbery.
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I suppose you/they could always get a part time job and work only 4 hours a day or so, if that pays enough for you to get by.
Or be contractor and earn three times what everyone else gets, then have a year off every now and then.
And an excellent motto that is. if only more people felt like that, the world would be a happier place ;)
Hey, my phone has a 400 MHz processor.
Yeah, it still matters for systems programming - OS kernels, drivers, that sort of thing. You know, the kind of things people use C for. When it comes to application programing - the stuff that's built on top of the system - that's when code readability becomes more important, and people start using higher level languages like C++ and Java. The example is defunct in Java since there are no pointers and you can't evaluate an int as a boolean.
This stuff has been around for years. Asynchronous XML transfer - flash has been doing that since version 5 (~2000) and MSXML has been doing that since uhh IE 4. It's just now that more browsers support this that some clever bod decided to write a wrapper API to support multiple browsers, and some marketing bod comes along and coins a term and thinks he invented the whole thing. Nothing new here, move along now.
From the teaser:
Even ATI acknowledges there will probably be no performance benefits to bumping the memory support from 256MB to 512MB as the cards are 'intended to demonstrate the next-generation capability to gamers."
I beleive that paraphrases your point quite nicely.
Who's pendantic now, then? :)
Whoever smelt it dealt it, and all that.
It's Java, not JAVA. Java is a name not an acronym.
all the people I taking JAVA classes were saying "I just can't get my program to work!"
That's because there is a real learning curve with Java. You can't expect to know J2SE and J2EE within a couple of weeks of starting to learn it, because the subject matter is huge. That's also the reason Java programmers get paid more.
JSP is insanely slow
I call bullshit. The hotspot JIT VM runs java mostly as fast as C++ and faster in some cases. Can you say the same for PHP, an interpreted scripting language? I think not.
You're not wrong about Coventry, but your logic is the wrong way round.
Arrogance? Telling me I can't drive an SUV while stumping for power in one, that's arrogance.
Not quite sure what that's supposed to mean.
Furthermore, we pour millions of dollars into countries to help them and even help them have better, cleaner sources of power but WE're the arrogant ones.
Riiiiiight..! Like your country gives a damn about any other country. Your country is more likely to invade another under false pretenses to steal its oil reserves...... oh, wait, you just did!
We drive our SUV's because we've earned them.
Just you keep telling yourself that. Because your attitudes to work make you burn out early doesn't give you the right to pollute more than everyone else.. come on. Oh, and next time I see your fat redneck face in your SUV behind me, I'll drive slowly just to piss you off.
Nothing against Birmingham, but it has a it has a bit of an image problem. I was born near Coventry, I know the centre of Birmingham is a great place to go shopping and there are lots of interesting things to see and do.
The U.S. is still the biggest pollutor in the world and produces more waste per person than any other country. Take SUVs for example - people in the U.S. love them. I find it a bot selfish that some countries are trying very hard, and the U.S. is putting out more than their fair share of pollution, making things worse for the rest of us. But then, why would the U.S. care? The arrogance of the world's most powerful nation means it's not important to tow the line.
Florida - nice if you can get it ;)
Compared to the north USA were it's -15, 8 degrees in the UK in Feb seems dopesn't seem too bad.
I've been in the UK too many times and for too long at a time... I used to spend weeks at the time in Birmimgham during the mid 80's
;)
Hell, you must know a lot about the UK
Birmingham FFS. Try London, the Cotswolds, the Lake District, North Wales. And the UK was deep in recession in the eighties - it's picked up a bit since then.
Give up already and get some help for that anal retension. Signal to noise and all that.
Same as you but my wife is Mexican and my car is French. She's a bit tempramental sometimes, but she doesn't have the mental problems present in British and American women (self obsession, materialism, status anxiety etc etc)
"Case sensitive" means that "A" is not equal to "a". "Case *IN*sensitive" means that "A" is equal to "a".
Everyone here knows that already.
The fact is, "case sensitive" (or more accuratly "bit pattern sensitive") is the correct way to do a file system.
You're wrong - this is merely your opinion. Your opinions are not necessarily facts.
Anybody who thinks there is some advantage of programming a user interface issue into the underlying system is just completely clueless (and it is alarming how many people are clueless here!)
Oh, another person who thinks he is far superior to everyone else, despite showing below average articulacy. I gave up reading your post after this point. Please think about why this sort of nonsense gives slashdot a bad name, and write something more intelligent next time.
Unix was designed in the 60s. I guess it made more sense then. It takes processing power to convert strings to a different case.
Personally I don't see the point of case insensitive file systems. Having a case sensitive file system makes you think about the casing you use. In my experience, windows developers tend to use a variety of casing in their code. This seems messy to me.
Just becuase it's doable doesn't mean it should be done, neither should it be done because windows does it. Is there a better reason, or is it merely your opinion?
Firstly, Linux users pay for software. Secondly, serious people use Linux. Thirdly, that macs are more powerful is an illusion.
.. gives a good overview of the subject
http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/
Said user only started at Google on 17 Jan 05. Under a month and out the door.
As a great man once said: No shit, Sherlock!
Jump to your own conclusions.
And what conclusions are we supposed to draw after that insight?
As someone else rightly said, another one who has never been a novice. Presumably your leap to knowledgeability has been overnight, and you have not had to deal with the consequences of the kinds of problems that arise when using these kinds of languages. If you had, you would know that 99 times out of 100 you will ship a better product faster with less stress when working in a managed environment.
Why anyone would deliberately choose to program in such inherently insecure environments, and further advocate their use for day to day development is beyond me. It sucks of masochism and intellectual snobbery.
I think it it looks great. It's nice and simple and very tidy. I'm probably not representantive of the typical slashbot opinion here.
so its our fault. after all, no one is FORCING us to vote those idiots in
Hear, hear. I know it's extreme anti-bush, but after watching Farenheight 9-11, I can't beleive you Americans voted that eejit back in.
What am I going to do with a .chm help file on unix? Has microsoft help been ported?