Touche! I suspect a large part of the target demographic includes people like me - people who live in a downstairs apartment yet still really, *really* want one of these robots;-)
Well, it seems like you'd need to go up the ladder a lot less - once or twice at each corner instead of down-move-ladder-2-metres-up.
But yes, I can think of easier ways to clean your guttering. I mentioned a long hose and an opening on your down-pipe in an earlier post; another alternative I've seen is simply to insert a long plastic bristle affair along the length of your guttering; the bristles let water pass into the gutter but leaves get stuck on top and break down before they can clog the down-pipe.
But, and this is a big but, I still want a Looj. If only so I can lean against the fence with a beer and proudly inform the neighbours that I'm supervising the gutter-cleaning robot...
To be fair, I suspect the target market for this is "people who own their own house". For this demographic, $100 is probably reasonable.
Then again, there's a product advertised in New Zealand called "Gutter Witch/Gutter Wand" - the idea is you use the "wand" to reach the gutters (it's basically a long stick, nozzle and hose), and the "witch" to open up the drain pipe without making a mess to pull out the leaves flushed away by the wand. This seems much more sensible, but I still want a Looj;-)
Not well in Scotland, though possibly on the rise - there were a number of smallish religious parties at the last Holyrood election. It's possible that they're on the rise, though Scotland has a history of religious parties and independents (until the 50s Scottish politics was dominated by independents, and parties tended to be religious in flavour). My 10-year old niece goes to a (public, i.e. state-funded) Catholic primary school and is well aware of evolution, though that's possibly from her parents and relatives as much as school. Certainly she's not said anything (and her parents haven't said anything) about ID at school; maybe because it's a state-funded school the fundies can't push ID?
In New Zealand ID doesn't seem that big either, though I've not been back long enough to really notice. There is a big religious party here, based round the Destiny Church, but they don't seem that extreme. I've heard their Bishop, Brian Tamaki, on TV and he seems reasonable enough - well, reasonable enough for agnostic old me.
The main churches in Europe and Australasia seem to be fairly established; the Kirk (Church of Scotland - Presbyterian) and the Catholic Church in Scotland, and the Anglicans (~Church of England - Episcopalian) and the Catholics in NZ, for example. The Church of Scotland, Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church all seem to cheerfully accept evolution. I gather ID is mainly supported (in the US) by certain smaller Protestant churches; while these churches exist in Europe and Australasia the established churches are far, far larger.
I believe NZ has more Jedis than anywhere else, however. Personally, if I had to give up my agnosticism, I'd be a Pastafarian.
No worries! Re: the use of a GPL product, that's correct *only* if the company *distributes* a product containing GPL'd code. If you *use* Linux you don't need to open up the source code; if you build a new kernel based on Linux you *don't* need to open up the source *unless* you distribute your new kernel to someone else.
There's this thing called the Internet; you can use it to search for information! A quick search here would have revealed that it stands for Top Level Domain, like ".com", ".us", or ".jfgi".
Yes, really. Struts isn't licensed under the GPL. It is, as are all Apache products, licensed under the Apache license. Not all Open Source software is GPL software.
"The majority"? Slashdot is a community consisting of ~1000000 members plus anonymous cowards. Some people post vociferously on GPL topics, others post vociferously on free-MP3 topics. Some people are conservative, some people are liberal. Some people like Macs, others use Linux, some use Windows. Pointing out conflicting attitudes amongst Slashdot posters is like admitting that there's no groupthink. Surprising to you, maybe, but hardly surprising to many of us.
You could be right - I've reread the original submission and I'm not sure that I read it as he got the box from !Minerva, but maybe Piranhaa can confirm...
Either way, Piranhaa received binaries, and *should* have receieved either source or an offer of source. And the original troll was a red-herring;-)
Clever troll, you're almost right. Here's what the GPL, v.2 (the version Linux is licensed under) does say:
3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following:
a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable source code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or,
b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or,
c) Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer to distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you received the program in object code or executable form with such an offer, in accord with Subsection b above.)
In this instance the complainant received the binaries, but did not receive the source code, and his attempts to obtain the source code have been rebuffed.
So you're right - the GPL doesn't require that Minerva make the source *available*to*everyone*. But that's an utter red herring. The complainant isn't asking for that.
I think it's more that your post was utterly irrelevant to the topic at hand. It was little better than the "M$ is teh suxors" every time there's a post tangentially related to Windows, or "Theo is an asshole" every time there's a BSD story. When the topic is license violation, someone's personal view on the license tends to be regarded as irrelevant at best and trolling at worst, particularly when peppered with "...for the win" and "...for the sux". Let's have a grown-up conversation.
Dude, you misspelt shit. Seriously, though, so what? Who cares how the GPL makes you feel? This is about a company *choosing* to use the GPL. If you choose to use a GPL'd app you do so in full knowledge of the copyleft restrictions that in requires. If the GPL "makes you angry" you don't use GPL'd applications. It really is that simple. It's easy to avoid the anger - avoid licenses that anger you.
I'd settle for a 600ml "metric pint", but knowing the British drinks industry a little too well I suspect they'd introduce a half-litre "pint" instead.
(And I just discovered Litres aren't SI! Never knew that, strange the stuff you discover when googling beer...)
Well, I'm a Kiwi, not a Brit, but I'll let that pass...
I have *no* difficulty understanding why the insurgency in Iraq will end no time soon. I protested the invasion before it began. The reasons I opposed the invasion were that I didn't believe the excuses, and felt that a few months after the invasion the excuses about WMD would disappear, and we'd be told that Iraq was better off without the despot - despite being told at the time that it wasn't about "regime change" (because admitting it was about regime change would have meant admitting illegality - it's easier to spin regime change after the fact).
Incidentally, the largest anti-Baath party prior to the invasion was the Iraqi Communist Party. Where are they now?!
Really, I got the impression we were talking about counter-insurgency?
If an enemy nation invades my home country I'll give carte blance to the armed forces. I'll pick up a tyre iron and attack the invaders with my bare hands.
But that's a far cry from counter-insurgency. I will not condone the armed forces I pay for propping up a foreign despot against insurgents. I especially will not condone the tactics outlined in this document.
I've always though of Snowball as being Trotsky, and Old Major (?) as being an amalgam of Marx and Lenin. I'm not sure that it matters too much; I doubt Orwell was necessarily going for pin-point accuracy on the finer details of the Russian Revolution;-)
Totally. I watched the moderation on this thread for ages last night (it's Kiwi-morning now) and it was hysterical - people complain when jokes are explained on/., but if jokes aren't crystal clear then they're modded troll or flamebait. I thought I was being unsubtle quoting 4 lines - funny would have been continuing the thread a line at a time - but 4 lines is what it took to make the mods think.
Disclaimer: I'm now wondering if I've ever made that mistake while moderating - "no one is innocent".
Funny how Westinghouse bought CBS but somehow was subsumed by it.
Possibly off topic, but kinda interesting... sometimes mergers/takeovers go like that, the bigger partner assumes the identity of the better known junior partner. Not long ago there was a huge finance corp. that was largely invisible to the general public, called "Chemical Bank". They *took*over* Chase and then JPMorgan, and now you have JPMorgan Chase, even though both of the latter were bought by Chemical Bank. It saves on the risk and cost of rebranding - and let's face it, "Chemical Bank" doesn't exactly sound Main Street-friendly?! I guess Westinghouse thought the same - CBS = Big Brand, associated with fun stuff, Westinghouse associated with utility bills...
My advice would be to seek advice from anyone with experience of using Bluetooth over long distances - does it do what it says on the tin? The OP could perhaps ask on a tech site like, say, Slashdot. However they'll probably get a load of flippant answers from people who haven't tried it...;-)
Re: the couch. Sure, it's not the ideal location for hours of hacking, but it's ideal for quickly logging into a server to check something, or firing up a web-browser or mail client.
I realise you've just spent a fair bit on sending video and audio from the server, and probably don't want to waste that investment, but wouldn't the easiest approach be to have a networked PC under the screen, and use that to connect mouse and keyboard to? You could SSH into your server, or similar?
With this approach you could dedicate the "set-top box" to recording video (handy for the antenna connection or cable box...) and use the server for storing recordings long-term.
Except for the "minor" inconvenience that you can't really just decide to go live in NZ, as there are fairly strict immigration requirements.
Where isn't that true of? I work (in NZ) with a lot of "new Kiwis" - immigrants from Britain, South Africa and the US at work, along with a number of Asian nations. A lot of recent immigrants also looked at other nations - Australia, Canada etc - before settling on NZ for whatever reason. From what I can gather most nations have fairly serious immigration requirements.
I lived in the UK most of my life; people there sometimes claim that it's easy to immigrate to the UK. It's not. The vast majority of immigrants to the UK are either EU nationals with every right to be there, or genuine refugees. Non EU nationals have a rediculous amount of bureaucracy to go through to get residency. I don't believe this is any different in, say, the US, Canada, Ireland, Australia...
UKUSA was my first thought, but France and Germany aren't members (in France's case, quite famously - it was largely France - and New Zealand's ex-PM David Lange - who brought Echelon to the attention of the world-at-large), and Australia - the remaining UKUSA member is absent from the list.
Maybe the Canadian intelligence services are as well funded as the New Zealand Air Force's fighter command?! (i.e. not very).
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Touche! I suspect a large part of the target demographic includes people like me - people who live in a downstairs apartment yet still really, *really* want one of these robots ;-)
Well, it seems like you'd need to go up the ladder a lot less - once or twice at each corner instead of down-move-ladder-2-metres-up.
But yes, I can think of easier ways to clean your guttering. I mentioned a long hose and an opening on your down-pipe in an earlier post; another alternative I've seen is simply to insert a long plastic bristle affair along the length of your guttering; the bristles let water pass into the gutter but leaves get stuck on top and break down before they can clog the down-pipe.
But, and this is a big but, I still want a Looj. If only so I can lean against the fence with a beer and proudly inform the neighbours that I'm supervising the gutter-cleaning robot...
To be fair, I suspect the target market for this is "people who own their own house". For this demographic, $100 is probably reasonable.
Then again, there's a product advertised in New Zealand called "Gutter Witch/Gutter Wand" - the idea is you use the "wand" to reach the gutters (it's basically a long stick, nozzle and hose), and the "witch" to open up the drain pipe without making a mess to pull out the leaves flushed away by the wand. This seems much more sensible, but I still want a Looj ;-)
Not well in Scotland, though possibly on the rise - there were a number of smallish religious parties at the last Holyrood election. It's possible that they're on the rise, though Scotland has a history of religious parties and independents (until the 50s Scottish politics was dominated by independents, and parties tended to be religious in flavour). My 10-year old niece goes to a (public, i.e. state-funded) Catholic primary school and is well aware of evolution, though that's possibly from her parents and relatives as much as school. Certainly she's not said anything (and her parents haven't said anything) about ID at school; maybe because it's a state-funded school the fundies can't push ID?
In New Zealand ID doesn't seem that big either, though I've not been back long enough to really notice. There is a big religious party here, based round the Destiny Church, but they don't seem that extreme. I've heard their Bishop, Brian Tamaki, on TV and he seems reasonable enough - well, reasonable enough for agnostic old me.
The main churches in Europe and Australasia seem to be fairly established; the Kirk (Church of Scotland - Presbyterian) and the Catholic Church in Scotland, and the Anglicans (~Church of England - Episcopalian) and the Catholics in NZ, for example. The Church of Scotland, Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church all seem to cheerfully accept evolution. I gather ID is mainly supported (in the US) by certain smaller Protestant churches; while these churches exist in Europe and Australasia the established churches are far, far larger.
I believe NZ has more Jedis than anywhere else, however. Personally, if I had to give up my agnosticism, I'd be a Pastafarian.
No worries! Re: the use of a GPL product, that's correct *only* if the company *distributes* a product containing GPL'd code. If you *use* Linux you don't need to open up the source code; if you build a new kernel based on Linux you *don't* need to open up the source *unless* you distribute your new kernel to someone else.
There's this thing called the Internet; you can use it to search for information! A quick search here would have revealed that it stands for Top Level Domain, like ".com", ".us", or ".jfgi".
Yes, really. Struts isn't licensed under the GPL. It is, as are all Apache products, licensed under the Apache license. Not all Open Source software is GPL software.
"The majority"? Slashdot is a community consisting of ~1000000 members plus anonymous cowards. Some people post vociferously on GPL topics, others post vociferously on free-MP3 topics. Some people are conservative, some people are liberal. Some people like Macs, others use Linux, some use Windows. Pointing out conflicting attitudes amongst Slashdot posters is like admitting that there's no groupthink. Surprising to you, maybe, but hardly surprising to many of us.
You could be right - I've reread the original submission and I'm not sure that I read it as he got the box from !Minerva, but maybe Piranhaa can confirm...
Either way, Piranhaa received binaries, and *should* have receieved either source or an offer of source. And the original troll was a red-herring ;-)
Clever troll, you're almost right. Here's what the GPL, v.2 (the version Linux is licensed under) does say:
In this instance the complainant received the binaries, but did not receive the source code, and his attempts to obtain the source code have been rebuffed.
So you're right - the GPL doesn't require that Minerva make the source *available*to*everyone*. But that's an utter red herring. The complainant isn't asking for that.
I think it's more that your post was utterly irrelevant to the topic at hand. It was little better than the "M$ is teh suxors" every time there's a post tangentially related to Windows, or "Theo is an asshole" every time there's a BSD story. When the topic is license violation, someone's personal view on the license tends to be regarded as irrelevant at best and trolling at worst, particularly when peppered with "...for the win" and "...for the sux". Let's have a grown-up conversation.
Dude, you misspelt shit. Seriously, though, so what? Who cares how the GPL makes you feel? This is about a company *choosing* to use the GPL. If you choose to use a GPL'd app you do so in full knowledge of the copyleft restrictions that in requires. If the GPL "makes you angry" you don't use GPL'd applications. It really is that simple. It's easy to avoid the anger - avoid licenses that anger you.
I'd settle for a 600ml "metric pint", but knowing the British drinks industry a little too well I suspect they'd introduce a half-litre "pint" instead.
(And I just discovered Litres aren't SI! Never knew that, strange the stuff you discover when googling beer...)
Well, I'm a Kiwi, not a Brit, but I'll let that pass...
I have *no* difficulty understanding why the insurgency in Iraq will end no time soon. I protested the invasion before it began. The reasons I opposed the invasion were that I didn't believe the excuses, and felt that a few months after the invasion the excuses about WMD would disappear, and we'd be told that Iraq was better off without the despot - despite being told at the time that it wasn't about "regime change" (because admitting it was about regime change would have meant admitting illegality - it's easier to spin regime change after the fact).
Incidentally, the largest anti-Baath party prior to the invasion was the Iraqi Communist Party. Where are they now?!
Really, I got the impression we were talking about counter-insurgency?
If an enemy nation invades my home country I'll give carte blance to the armed forces. I'll pick up a tyre iron and attack the invaders with my bare hands.
But that's a far cry from counter-insurgency. I will not condone the armed forces I pay for propping up a foreign despot against insurgents. I especially will not condone the tactics outlined in this document.
I've always though of Snowball as being Trotsky, and Old Major (?) as being an amalgam of Marx and Lenin. I'm not sure that it matters too much; I doubt Orwell was necessarily going for pin-point accuracy on the finer details of the Russian Revolution ;-)
(I vote for no pigs - I vote for no vote).
Totally. I watched the moderation on this thread for ages last night (it's Kiwi-morning now) and it was hysterical - people complain when jokes are explained on /., but if jokes aren't crystal clear then they're modded troll or flamebait. I thought I was being unsubtle quoting 4 lines - funny would have been continuing the thread a line at a time - but 4 lines is what it took to make the mods think.
Disclaimer: I'm now wondering if I've ever made that mistake while moderating - "no one is innocent".
It got modded flamebait because...
We mean it man
We love our queen
And our figurehead
Is not what she seems
Bit early for my Codemasters sessions on the Speccy, but formative nonetheless.
Possibly off topic, but kinda interesting... sometimes mergers/takeovers go like that, the bigger partner assumes the identity of the better known junior partner. Not long ago there was a huge finance corp. that was largely invisible to the general public, called "Chemical Bank". They *took*over* Chase and then JPMorgan, and now you have JPMorgan Chase, even though both of the latter were bought by Chemical Bank. It saves on the risk and cost of rebranding - and let's face it, "Chemical Bank" doesn't exactly sound Main Street-friendly?! I guess Westinghouse thought the same - CBS = Big Brand, associated with fun stuff, Westinghouse associated with utility bills...
My advice would be to seek advice from anyone with experience of using Bluetooth over long distances - does it do what it says on the tin? The OP could perhaps ask on a tech site like, say, Slashdot. However they'll probably get a load of flippant answers from people who haven't tried it... ;-)
Re: the couch. Sure, it's not the ideal location for hours of hacking, but it's ideal for quickly logging into a server to check something, or firing up a web-browser or mail client.
I realise you've just spent a fair bit on sending video and audio from the server, and probably don't want to waste that investment, but wouldn't the easiest approach be to have a networked PC under the screen, and use that to connect mouse and keyboard to? You could SSH into your server, or similar?
With this approach you could dedicate the "set-top box" to recording video (handy for the antenna connection or cable box...) and use the server for storing recordings long-term.
Where isn't that true of? I work (in NZ) with a lot of "new Kiwis" - immigrants from Britain, South Africa and the US at work, along with a number of Asian nations. A lot of recent immigrants also looked at other nations - Australia, Canada etc - before settling on NZ for whatever reason. From what I can gather most nations have fairly serious immigration requirements.
I lived in the UK most of my life; people there sometimes claim that it's easy to immigrate to the UK. It's not. The vast majority of immigrants to the UK are either EU nationals with every right to be there, or genuine refugees. Non EU nationals have a rediculous amount of bureaucracy to go through to get residency. I don't believe this is any different in, say, the US, Canada, Ireland, Australia...
"Neighbours" annoyed pretty much everyone. And don't get me started on "Home and Away". But "Shortland Street" qualified New Zealand for the list.
...I'll get me coat.
UKUSA was my first thought, but France and Germany aren't members (in France's case, quite famously - it was largely France - and New Zealand's ex-PM David Lange - who brought Echelon to the attention of the world-at-large), and Australia - the remaining UKUSA member is absent from the list.
Maybe the Canadian intelligence services are as well funded as the New Zealand Air Force's fighter command?! (i.e. not very).