I'm going to have to disagree wholeheartedly on this one. I've currently got Gentoo running with a KDE desktop on my 600Mhz laptop with 196MB of ram and it works just fine. OpenOffice.org and even Photoshop (running under Crossover Office) for that matter, runs without a problem (Though I've only run it a few times).
I'm not sure where your problem lies, but it's surely not with KDE or Linux directly.
That user that clicked the agree button didn't really agree to anything though (legally maybe, but in reality they did not.) All they did was the first thing they thought would get rid of the annoying dialog box.
The legal system has to grow a god damned brain and not make this type of thing binding.
I disagree. While I understand what you are saying, the examples you gave are situations of something being sold / transferred in good faith. Spyware, however, is downright harmful. There is nothing about spyware that any person would want anything to do with.
A lot of people who come into the shop I work at with spyware on their computers have no idea what it is or how it got on there. That's quite a bit different than a less than helpful clause in a loan agreement.
Spyware should be treated differently because it IS different. It's only reason for being is to make the company money while destroying peoples computers in the process.
I think there's enough reason for us to save the data that something will come along and keep that from happening though. Besides, it's the perfect marketing scheme. "Don't lose YOUR favorite family pictures like the Johnsons did. Get yourself a new transoptic magnetoflex drive and back up today!"
Agreed. While I see the poster's point, there will still be cellular phones with no frills and superior reliability and good battery life. Just because one segment of the market decides they don't want games and such on a cellular, does that mean that the entire market should suffer with dull boring phones? He / She is being somewhat hypocritical here (no offense intended, just pointing something out).
I disagree. I think that the people working on Gentoo do care about their users, but they care more about their ideals and improving it in specific ways. Porsche used to think this way. They made fast cars that were technologically sound and consumers either: A) had faith in in Porsche and dealt with the fact that they only made sports cars or B) didn't buy one. That, I feel, is how Gentoo is. Either you trust that the distro is the way it is for a reason (barring small bugs and upgrades) or you use Mandrake (sorry, couldnt resist).
I think it's a sad state that Porsche got themselves into with the Cayenne and even the Boxter, and they got there by trying to compete with the likes of Ford and Chevy. I will never recognize these as true Porsches. Then again, I'm a Nissan guy anyway, hehe.
That's very true and I should have worded the statement differently. I had no intentions of railing on linux, however, I just meant to say that I'm not in a position where I can use it as my main operating system.:)
I don't think you have to worry about it too much. Being open source, I think the worst case scenario would just be a fork and a new name for your favorite old browser:).
Maybe that would be a good thing? I'd LOVE to have the ability to choose between different hardware architectures and still run the same operating system. This is one place where linux is beautiful. Unfortunately, it's just not ready for a lot of users yet. No support for Photoshop, Dreamweaver and many of the other applications that I use daily.
Maybe Apple is in the same position that Sega was a few years back. Granted, they are a hardware based company now, but maybe they don't have to be? Their software is what drives people to them, maybe they should change their focus.
Whichever way things go, I think we have an exciting few years ahead of us.
Agreed, as much as I dislike Microsoft software and their business practices, I still think Real sucks and I wish they would just meet there end now instead of prolonging the agony (ours, not theirs).
One thing you should keep in mind when you become annoyed by all the linux zealots is that along with the actual kernel and operating system, the ideals are some of the most important things about it.
At my school I do a lot of network management. Lately we've had trouble with our dinky little linksys router (great for home use but crap for the amount of users we have). Fortunately, GNU / Linux came to my aid. I'm now in the process of building a completely free (as in beer and speach) software router on an old G3. The fact that this isn't costing any money is pretty awesome and is the type of thing that draws people to linux, imo. That and the fact that it makes them 1337.:-)
Games aren't produced on a platform because the programmer knows about it, they're produced on a platform because there are a lot of people using that platform that would buy it. Hence, more gamers on linux, more game companies making games for linux.
quote: by Afrosheen (42464) on Sunday January 18, @03:00PM
"...just as most of us would be lost with a leaky pipe and a pipe wrench."
I take exception to that remark, though I understand where you're coming from. I'm quite comfortable working with my hands as well as with computers. I think it depends on the user's ability to translate the physical world into abstract theory. For instance, I worked with an older man, once, who kept looking at the mouse as I was moving it, rather than the pointer on the screen.
Common sense also comes into play, though. I find it truly amazing when I tell someone over the phone to right click on something and they left click it and then tell me it's the same thing. Left and right are something that is, or should be, a fairly universal concept. Why is it that the older generation, as well as many people of this generation, can't understand the difference?
Hear Hear. One of the major problems I've had with most gui's is that they aren't configurable enough. I want options. I love a lot of things about OSX, but I hate not being able to maximize a window! Oh, and don't get me started about the home key not taking the cursor to the beginning of a line. Before anyone flames me telling me this is already possible to change, what about public computers? Can't change those. How about some sort of removable device one could carry that would save settings such as those? Unfortunately, that would mean setting up standards which we all know Microsoft will completely obliterate:P
It seems to me that there also hasn't been enough inovation so far. However, I think Apple is heading in the right direction. Expose ROCKS! I just wish it was easier to control. The F keys are a little too out of reach IMO.
P.S. I apologize for any incoherance in this post. I have so many things I want to say and just not the room to say them here.
Ferarris have downforce built into the body design, much like the reverse of nasa's lifting bodies. Look at the Enzo Ferarri, are you telling me that isn't a supercar? That doesn't have a spoiler.
Whether a spoiler does anything or not is so dependent upon the design of the spoiler, the design of the car and hundreds of other variables that it's really not worth debating. Some cars need them, some cars don't. Let's just leave it at that.
I'm going to have to disagree wholeheartedly on this one. I've currently got Gentoo running with a KDE desktop on my 600Mhz laptop with 196MB of ram and it works just fine. OpenOffice.org and even Photoshop (running under Crossover Office) for that matter, runs without a problem (Though I've only run it a few times). I'm not sure where your problem lies, but it's surely not with KDE or Linux directly.
The better question, is why hasn't the court thrown the case out if they refuse to show evidence for this long? Somebody needs to wake up here.
The main problem with that, is that it's still a guys hand doing it...
That user that clicked the agree button didn't really agree to anything though (legally maybe, but in reality they did not.) All they did was the first thing they thought would get rid of the annoying dialog box.
The legal system has to grow a god damned brain and not make this type of thing binding.
I disagree. While I understand what you are saying, the examples you gave are situations of something being sold / transferred in good faith. Spyware, however, is downright harmful. There is nothing about spyware that any person would want anything to do with.
A lot of people who come into the shop I work at with spyware on their computers have no idea what it is or how it got on there. That's quite a bit different than a less than helpful clause in a loan agreement.
Spyware should be treated differently because it IS different. It's only reason for being is to make the company money while destroying peoples computers in the process.
I think there's enough reason for us to save the data that something will come along and keep that from happening though. Besides, it's the perfect marketing scheme. "Don't lose YOUR favorite family pictures like the Johnsons did. Get yourself a new transoptic magnetoflex drive and back up today!"
In my opinion, yes. It doesn't mean you have to win, but without challenges, power becomes absolute, and we all know what happens then.
Agreed. While I see the poster's point, there will still be cellular phones with no frills and superior reliability and good battery life. Just because one segment of the market decides they don't want games and such on a cellular, does that mean that the entire market should suffer with dull boring phones? He / She is being somewhat hypocritical here (no offense intended, just pointing something out).
I disagree. I think that the people working on Gentoo do care about their users, but they care more about their ideals and improving it in specific ways. Porsche used to think this way. They made fast cars that were technologically sound and consumers either: A) had faith in in Porsche and dealt with the fact that they only made sports cars or B) didn't buy one. That, I feel, is how Gentoo is. Either you trust that the distro is the way it is for a reason (barring small bugs and upgrades) or you use Mandrake (sorry, couldnt resist).
I think it's a sad state that Porsche got themselves into with the Cayenne and even the Boxter, and they got there by trying to compete with the likes of Ford and Chevy. I will never recognize these as true Porsches. Then again, I'm a Nissan guy anyway, hehe.
That's very true and I should have worded the statement differently. I had no intentions of railing on linux, however, I just meant to say that I'm not in a position where I can use it as my main operating system. :)
I don't think you have to worry about it too much. Being open source, I think the worst case scenario would just be a fork and a new name for your favorite old browser :).
Maybe that would be a good thing? I'd LOVE to have the ability to choose between different hardware architectures and still run the same operating system. This is one place where linux is beautiful. Unfortunately, it's just not ready for a lot of users yet. No support for Photoshop, Dreamweaver and many of the other applications that I use daily. Maybe Apple is in the same position that Sega was a few years back. Granted, they are a hardware based company now, but maybe they don't have to be? Their software is what drives people to them, maybe they should change their focus. Whichever way things go, I think we have an exciting few years ahead of us.
Agreed, as much as I dislike Microsoft software and their business practices, I still think Real sucks and I wish they would just meet there end now instead of prolonging the agony (ours, not theirs).
What about professional write? I learned to type on that :)
Nope, that was only the back half, not a full horse.
3. Press return while the icon is highlighted to rename.
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Mmm, one of the more annoying things I've found about the finder so far. When I hit return I want it to open like it does on, oh... every other OS?
One thing you should keep in mind when you become annoyed by all the linux zealots is that along with the actual kernel and operating system, the ideals are some of the most important things about it.
At my school I do a lot of network management. Lately we've had trouble with our dinky little linksys router (great for home use but crap for the amount of users we have). Fortunately, GNU / Linux came to my aid. I'm now in the process of building a completely free (as in beer and speach) software router on an old G3. The fact that this isn't costing any money is pretty awesome and is the type of thing that draws people to linux, imo. :-)
That and the fact that it makes them 1337.
Since when do mannequins have ego's?
Bah, why confuse things with facts?
Seriously, though, do you expect them to back up a joke like that with notes on all of microsoft's wrongdoings?
Either that or he figured they'd never pay it and he'd be able to keep the domain, which I think is much more likely.
Games aren't produced on a platform because the programmer knows about it, they're produced on a platform because there are a lot of people using that platform that would buy it. Hence, more gamers on linux, more game companies making games for linux.
I dunno, I kinda liked having cars talk to me :). I think the problem arises when people start talking back and expecting another answer.
"...just as most of us would be lost with a leaky pipe and a pipe wrench."
Hear Hear. One of the major problems I've had with most gui's is that they aren't configurable enough. I want options. I love a lot of things about OSX, but I hate not being able to maximize a window! Oh, and don't get me started about the home key not taking the cursor to the beginning of a line. Before anyone flames me telling me this is already possible to change, what about public computers? Can't change those. How about some sort of removable device one could carry that would save settings such as those? Unfortunately, that would mean setting up standards which we all know Microsoft will completely obliterate :P
It seems to me that there also hasn't been enough inovation so far. However, I think Apple is heading in the right direction. Expose ROCKS! I just wish it was easier to control. The F keys are a little too out of reach IMO.
P.S. I apologize for any incoherance in this post. I have so many things I want to say and just not the room to say them here.
Ferarris have downforce built into the body design, much like the reverse of nasa's lifting bodies. Look at the Enzo Ferarri, are you telling me that isn't a supercar? That doesn't have a spoiler. Whether a spoiler does anything or not is so dependent upon the design of the spoiler, the design of the car and hundreds of other variables that it's really not worth debating. Some cars need them, some cars don't. Let's just leave it at that.