Now maybe MS fanboys expect their APIs to do everything for them but some people are actually serious about programming and do not want bloatware
Alternately, adults who want their software to solve the problem at hand with a minimum of unnecessary effort and fuss enjoy it when their APIs don't force them to reinvent the wheel.
"Serious about programming" != "Interested in code masturbation for no good reason."
Do you believe that C++ doesn't have a lot of traps that other languages don't, often for no good reason?
I don't, which is why it's funny.
If you shoot yourself in the nuts with a shotgun, I'd blame you. If ten million people buy the same shotgun and nine and a half million shoot themselves in the nuts with it, it's time to blame the shotgun. It's not impossible to write good C++ code, but it's harder than it could be.
There's basically no situation in which C++ would be my personal language of choice for a project -- either I care enough about performance and optimization that it's worth writing in C, or it's worth writing in a better object oriented language further from the metal like a Java or C# or even a scripting language, depending on the task.
Is there some reason people continue to think Java is a good idea in handhelds? It's almost a religion, and no amount of dissuading seems enough to change people's minds.
Probably because for the mobile market, a managed environment and relatively easy hardware compatability trump performance as concerns.
Which doesn't make you feel any better when an app runs like crap on your phone, but, there it is.
They could have dumbed it down to make it appeal to a larger audience, but they didn't.
You don't think the "caster" units are dumbed down relative to SC1? Not that they ever seemed very relevant for tournament play.
There just doesn't seem to be anything in SC2 that is the wrecking ball of a SC1 High Templar. Or even really on the level of Maelstrom or Lockdown or Irradiate or Mind Control or Dark Swarm.
Civ5 won't be touched by me again until about 4 patches OR a very good mod. Civ4 and Alpha Centauri still rule the roost in my eyes.
+1 on this. IMHO, Civ 5 "simplified" almost all of the interesting choices out of the game. Now bribing city states and rolling an army over everyone is the best way to do everything -- and it's terrible for war to be the whole game, because the Civ 5 AI is terrible at it.
Maybe we could have gotten a more inflammatory article title to stoke the inevitable posting flamewar. Such as: "France to Apple Fans: Your iPad is a Toy, Not a Real Computer Like A Windows Machine."
Which is pretty much what the summary says. I'm sure that'll go over well.
This sort of thing is a sign of desperation, they see their culture being eroded by Western ideas and being a dictatorship use the one tool at thier disposal, tyranny and top down rules. Thomas Friedman is probably in a state of ectasy ut everyone else should either denouce them or just hope they someday collapse like the other communist hellholes are in the process of doing.
Friedman's position might be more nuanced than you'd think. Despite his recent and somewhat bizarre love affair with Chinese autocracy, he's had a lot to say about globalization and the inability to resist it for years.
To me, he's a guy I think is wrong as much as he's right, yet, always has something interesting to say. He makes you think even if often what you think is, "He's totally wrong about that."
It is now just over 12 years since seven people sat down in a conference room in Silicon Valley to fix what they saw as the marketing problem with the words "free software." Most people thought that the word "free" meant only that no one had to pay. It seemed they didn't have an attention span long enough to try to grok what Richard Stallman was saying when he kept repeating, "'free,' as in speech."
So basically, this story is more about a revolution in branding than a revolution in software.
I'm not trying to defend it, I'm just saying that, in practice, in the regions where I've worked if you insisted on knowing a salary range before the interview process, you would probably be unemployed. It isn't considered standard there.
Hmmm. But is what you're saying really an endorsement of distributed source control, or is it more a statement of how much SVN specifically seemed to hate its users?:)
err that's normally one of the the things the job spec has up front and if it didn't that would be a warning in its self that the company is a poor employer.
This might be a regional thing. I've interviewed hundreds of places across my career and I don't think I've ever had a hard number on salary until they made me an offer.
While Star Trek is certainly better known by the mainstream these days, let's not get too crazy. Being a Star Trek fan still marks you as king of nerds!
It's true. I'm a huge nerd and this whole story still fills me with an inexplicable urge to bellow "NERDS!!!" in response like Ogre in Revenge of the Nerds.
Often, when learning how to deal with the CLI, you will have to look up those options and at the very least you will know they exist.
That's assuming the documentation is good, complete, and not misleading. My experience is that this isn't 90% likely to be the case, giving you back at least your 10% problem rate.
I mean, we've all discovered at some point that the CLI switch or argument we needed for a task was named something, not even just obscure, but that would make you think it was for something completely different, right?
(That's not to say that the CLI is crap or doesn't have its uses.)
But, as long as we as a culture do have it backwards, it makes financial sense for a console company to try to position themselves as family-friendly and certainly not the system those porno games run on.
(And yeah, I know the porn industry has historically pushed a lot of entertainment technology forward.)
You said when they want to they can move fast so it doesn't take years (your choice of words) to produce a new OS.
I pointed out that your fast was still almost 3 years.
Which you're now trying to counterpoint by posting dates showing that "less years" is pretty much standard, except for the one exception (Vista) that you're somehow trying to claim is the rule and not the exception?
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Now maybe MS fanboys expect their APIs to do everything for them but some people are actually serious about programming and do not want bloatware
Alternately, adults who want their software to solve the problem at hand with a minimum of unnecessary effort and fuss enjoy it when their APIs don't force them to reinvent the wheel.
"Serious about programming" != "Interested in code masturbation for no good reason."
Simple question:
Do you believe that C++ doesn't have a lot of traps that other languages don't, often for no good reason?
I don't, which is why it's funny.
If you shoot yourself in the nuts with a shotgun, I'd blame you. If ten million people buy the same shotgun and nine and a half million shoot themselves in the nuts with it, it's time to blame the shotgun. It's not impossible to write good C++ code, but it's harder than it could be.
There's basically no situation in which C++ would be my personal language of choice for a project -- either I care enough about performance and optimization that it's worth writing in C, or it's worth writing in a better object oriented language further from the metal like a Java or C# or even a scripting language, depending on the task.
I always preferred this interview with Bjarne Stroustrup.
(Yes, I know it's not real, but...)
Is there some reason people continue to think Java is a good idea in handhelds? It's almost a religion, and no amount of dissuading seems enough to change people's minds.
Probably because for the mobile market, a managed environment and relatively easy hardware compatability trump performance as concerns.
Which doesn't make you feel any better when an app runs like crap on your phone, but, there it is.
They could have dumbed it down to make it appeal to a larger audience, but they didn't.
You don't think the "caster" units are dumbed down relative to SC1? Not that they ever seemed very relevant for tournament play.
There just doesn't seem to be anything in SC2 that is the wrecking ball of a SC1 High Templar. Or even really on the level of Maelstrom or Lockdown or Irradiate or Mind Control or Dark Swarm.
Civ5 won't be touched by me again until about 4 patches OR a very good mod. Civ4 and Alpha Centauri still rule the roost in my eyes.
+1 on this. IMHO, Civ 5 "simplified" almost all of the interesting choices out of the game. Now bribing city states and rolling an army over everyone is the best way to do everything -- and it's terrible for war to be the whole game, because the Civ 5 AI is terrible at it.
Wrong!
The dinosaurs are actually Biblical dragons. Noah even had some on the Ark. Everybody knows that.
When they removed Other OS, Sony signed their own fucking death warrant.
... because this has somehow killed Sony or even the PS3?
Maybe we could have gotten a more inflammatory article title to stoke the inevitable posting flamewar. Such as: "France to Apple Fans: Your iPad is a Toy, Not a Real Computer Like A Windows Machine."
Which is pretty much what the summary says. I'm sure that'll go over well.
This sort of thing is a sign of desperation, they see their culture being eroded by Western ideas and being a dictatorship use the one tool at thier disposal, tyranny and top down rules. Thomas Friedman is probably in a state of ectasy ut everyone else should either denouce them or just hope they someday collapse like the other communist hellholes are in the process of doing.
Friedman's position might be more nuanced than you'd think. Despite his recent and somewhat bizarre love affair with Chinese autocracy, he's had a lot to say about globalization and the inability to resist it for years.
To me, he's a guy I think is wrong as much as he's right, yet, always has something interesting to say. He makes you think even if often what you think is, "He's totally wrong about that."
Yea when they can not get even get history at the level of a third grader right you do have to wonder.
Where's there a third grade that covers the Civil War in that level of detail?
And really, who can tell the Carolinas apart? :P
First paragraph of TFA:
It is now just over 12 years since seven people sat down in a conference room in Silicon Valley to fix what they saw as the marketing problem with the words "free software." Most people thought that the word "free" meant only that no one had to pay. It seemed they didn't have an attention span long enough to try to grok what Richard Stallman was saying when he kept repeating, "'free,' as in speech."
So basically, this story is more about a revolution in branding than a revolution in software.
RTFA!
Seriously, is it that important to get an early post in that no one who read even the first sentence of the article would write?
I'm not trying to defend it, I'm just saying that, in practice, in the regions where I've worked if you insisted on knowing a salary range before the interview process, you would probably be unemployed. It isn't considered standard there.
Hmmm. But is what you're saying really an endorsement of distributed source control, or is it more a statement of how much SVN specifically seemed to hate its users? :)
err that's normally one of the the things the job spec has up front and if it didn't that would be a warning in its self that the company is a poor employer.
This might be a regional thing. I've interviewed hundreds of places across my career and I don't think I've ever had a hard number on salary until they made me an offer.
Otherwise, if you can't manage a switch to a different VCS then you have some problems (either with developers or with organization).
What you can or can't manage is one thing, and what is or isn't worth your time is another thing entirely.
While Star Trek is certainly better known by the mainstream these days, let's not get too crazy. Being a Star Trek fan still marks you as king of nerds!
It's true. I'm a huge nerd and this whole story still fills me with an inexplicable urge to bellow "NERDS!!!" in response like Ogre in Revenge of the Nerds.
2a) we care about getting shit done, and I can guarantee you that my Vim+LaTeX is faster than your MS Office.
Sure. Now interact with a real business and try that.
Now, if someone can accomplish something by knowing less, do you really think that makes him more literate?
Being somewhat pragmatic, I measure what someone can accomplish by... what they can accomplish.
So, for the purposes of the task in question, no, not more literate, but as literate.
Often, when learning how to deal with the CLI, you will have to look up those options and at the very least you will know they exist.
That's assuming the documentation is good, complete, and not misleading. My experience is that this isn't 90% likely to be the case, giving you back at least your 10% problem rate.
I mean, we've all discovered at some point that the CLI switch or argument we needed for a task was named something, not even just obscure, but that would make you think it was for something completely different, right?
(That's not to say that the CLI is crap or doesn't have its uses.)
What?! That's like saying McDonald's did anything for fine cuisine.
I know you're not shit-talking the McRib and Shamrock Shake. I'd cut a man for that!
If Windows accomplished anything, it is to make people LESS computer literate and MORE dependent on GUIs.
You seem to believe that a GUI is always a worse interface choice than a CLI.
Memorizing arcane keyboard commands doesn't inherently indicate you're more computer literate nor that you understand more about what's going on.
I mean, I was an anti-mouse bigot myself twenty years ago, but then I grew up.
Anybody else think maybe we have this backwards?
We absolutely do.
But, as long as we as a culture do have it backwards, it makes financial sense for a console company to try to position themselves as family-friendly and certainly not the system those porno games run on.
(And yeah, I know the porn industry has historically pushed a lot of entertainment technology forward.)
You said when they want to they can move fast so it doesn't take years (your choice of words) to produce a new OS.
I pointed out that your fast was still almost 3 years.
Which you're now trying to counterpoint by posting dates showing that "less years" is pretty much standard, except for the one exception (Vista) that you're somehow trying to claim is the rule and not the exception?
And you're asking if I'm daft?