Actually, you should be the one setting the breaking point...
I have. But it's my breaking point. I have no right enforce it upon anybody else. And nobody has a right to force theirs upon me.
...because you are the one flinging the hyperbolic label, the ad hominen attack.
I have?? Where?? How far back did you go in the thread?
Mix with the victims a bit and see if you think that due to all the imperfections we should simply not try. emphasis mine
I said that?? Where? Where did I say that we shouldn't try? Does the maintenance or extension of freedom mean "not trying"?
You might disagree with the poster, but you have not come up with anything better.
And you have?... Besides, better for you is not always better for all.
Maybe you should make a feeble attempt to understand that things like kiddie porn and bestiality, etc. arise from sexual repression. It is a result of the attempt by the authorities to enforce abstinence. You want something better? Try more sexual liberation instead of repression. When people are allowed to have normal sexual relations, the depravity will be greatly reduced. The boilerplate solutions being proposed will accomplish nothing. As history as proven. As a matter of fact, it has made the situation what it is today. And after all this, you haven't answered the question, who will rule over the uncivilized (note the last sentence) masses? Since you complained about my lack of one, what's your solution? Are you one of those who simply believe that more prisons will make the problem go away?
Tell me, please, where is the breaking point? What is the happy medium?
You brought it up. You tell us. Who amongst us uncivilized masses is going to decide? If we're so uncivilized, then what right do we have to a representative democracy? Who will appoint the civilized dictator to put us on the "one and only" path to righteousness?
Encryption is useless if they make you give them the key or lock you up until you do. It just keeps the mailman(IT guy) from reading your mail. The government gets what the government wants, unless you and about 2 million others start hittin' the streets. We should learn something from and be inspired by the protests of recent weeks. Some people are finally waking up.
More like buy them out. There is no competition, nor will there be. This will just bring about more mergers. FTA: "And he has green-lighted the historic mergers of two Baby Bells, SBC Communications and Verizon Communications, with their onetime long-distance rivals." It is delusional to believe that this do anything to bring about better service and prices, or to allow any newcomers who don't "play ball". ATT&C (American Telephone, Telegraph, and Cable) will be the new name.
'tinfoil hat' Now with that out of the way, what does that have to do with the price of rice? Do you actually believe that these rules are for our benefit?
Yes, it is correct. A government creates these rules to protect itself, not its subjects. It will protect the public only so far as to meet this goal. If the people must be forced to cooperate, then the government has no rights. I will grant that someone from outside has no right to destroy a government, unless that government's transgressions pass outside its borders. A righteous government would never coerce its people into anything, no matter how deep the trouble it has gotten itself into. If it is a good government, and if the people feel it's worth defending, then that is what will happen. A government must work with the consent of the people, not the other way around. Otherwise, bye bye. Don't care who.
...but this step would likely give us way more choice and open the door for many more content creators to enter the market.
And that is the reason why the regulations exist to begin with. They don't want just any old subversive to have access to a broadcast medium. The propaganda machine cannot function without these regulations in place. Further subjugation would not be possible if alternative sources of information are available. This why there is such a mad scramble to control the net.
I just don't think people care anymore, or they believe that their voice won't be heard.
Generally, I would believe you are right, but the recent protests by the French students and the immigrants in the U.S. inspired me to believe that there still is hope. I would prefer a more...shall we say...civilized approach, but if this is what it takes, then cool, as long as the desired result is achieved. Maybe someday, we will be able to acquire our essential freedoms through peaceful means. It all depends on us. These corpoartions and governments can be rendered powerless in a minute if we have the will and desire.
And I just love double standard concept of law... Should have two versions of the law, one where corporations are Guilty until proven innocent?
Not double standard, but a higher standard. We must hold those that we put into a position of power to a higher standard. I believe those who write and enforce the law(or have undue influence) should pay a much higher price if they break it. Then they might be more careful about the laws they write. We must remind them that their jobs exist to serve us.
Good encryption is fine for keeping "real" criminals out of your stuff. They can't have you arrested for refusing to give up your key. The gov't, on the other hand... Keep a secret, go to jail.
They would be out in the streets by the millions, like the immigrants in the U.S. and the French students and union members, DEMANDING an end to corporate controlled government, the war, the patriot act, etc. It's unfortunate that we must take to the streets what should be done on election day, in the houses of congress, etc., but it seems to be the only way to get justice. Can anybody remember a time when we were able to gain any rights by simply voting for them? They majority doesn't care, They don't want rights. They want convenience. So it appears that the only way to get rid of DRM, regain our rights that are spelled out on paper, and so on, is to show the corporate carpetbaggers and those who choose to ride their coatails who's really boss. So put down your laptops and get your pitchforks and work towards some real change, and put fear of the penguin into their heathen souls.
Care to explain how, instead of just troll modding? OS X on a PC is little more than what I said it was. It's pretty hard to write really good programs for such crummy hardware. If the Alpha chip and PPC were given as much attention by the developers as Intel, you would understand my point. PC hardware is garbage, a kludge. It only exists to stay compatable with ancient tech. The same reasons that Windows itself is so bloated and unwieldy. Try to see the facts instead of adopting such a radical attitude for something that simply doesn't work very well. Otherwise, we'll using using this junk for another 20 years. You people here should understand that more than most. Alas, it aint gonna happen.
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They probably meant Jelly.
DiVX failed because there are alternatives. When there is none, people will buy what's available, DRM'd or not.
...it's that I quite simply don't understand what it's telling me to do.
Now there ya go. Unbreakable crypto.
Actually, you should be the one setting the breaking point...
...because you are the one flinging the hyperbolic label, the ad hominen attack.
I have. But it's my breaking point. I have no right enforce it upon anybody else. And nobody has a right to force theirs upon me.
I have?? Where?? How far back did you go in the thread?
Mix with the victims a bit and see if you think that due to all the imperfections we should simply not try. emphasis mine
I said that?? Where? Where did I say that we shouldn't try? Does the maintenance or extension of freedom mean "not trying"?
You might disagree with the poster, but you have not come up with anything better.
And you have?... Besides, better for you is not always better for all.
Maybe you should make a feeble attempt to understand that things like kiddie porn and bestiality, etc. arise from sexual repression. It is a result of the attempt by the authorities to enforce abstinence. You want something better? Try more sexual liberation instead of repression. When people are allowed to have normal sexual relations, the depravity will be greatly reduced. The boilerplate solutions being proposed will accomplish nothing. As history as proven. As a matter of fact, it has made the situation what it is today. And after all this, you haven't answered the question, who will rule over the uncivilized (note the last sentence) masses? Since you complained about my lack of one, what's your solution? Are you one of those who simply believe that more prisons will make the problem go away?
Tell me, please, where is the breaking point? What is the happy medium?
You brought it up. You tell us. Who amongst us uncivilized masses is going to decide? If we're so uncivilized, then what right do we have to a representative democracy? Who will appoint the civilized dictator to put us on the "one and only" path to righteousness?
Encryption is useless if they make you give them the key or lock you up until you do. It just keeps the mailman(IT guy) from reading your mail. The government gets what the government wants, unless you and about 2 million others start hittin' the streets. We should learn something from and be inspired by the protests of recent weeks. Some people are finally waking up.
More like buy them out. There is no competition, nor will there be. This will just bring about more mergers. FTA: "And he has green-lighted the historic mergers of two Baby Bells, SBC Communications and Verizon Communications, with their onetime long-distance rivals." It is delusional to believe that this do anything to bring about better service and prices, or to allow any newcomers who don't "play ball". ATT&C (American Telephone, Telegraph, and Cable) will be the new name.
For me and my state, adding that $.08 to cigarette tax would be much more productive.
:-)
Raise the tax on tobacco? In Kentucky?? What, are you trying to get your head chopped off?
You could get nailed by this. They'll get you any way they can. They'll tax you by the letter if you exchange words(talk).
'tinfoil hat' Now with that out of the way, what does that have to do with the price of rice? Do you actually believe that these rules are for our benefit?
Yes, it is correct. A government creates these rules to protect itself, not its subjects. It will protect the public only so far as to meet this goal. If the people must be forced to cooperate, then the government has no rights. I will grant that someone from outside has no right to destroy a government, unless that government's transgressions pass outside its borders. A righteous government would never coerce its people into anything, no matter how deep the trouble it has gotten itself into. If it is a good government, and if the people feel it's worth defending, then that is what will happen. A government must work with the consent of the people, not the other way around. Otherwise, bye bye. Don't care who.
I don't think so.
National survival trumps individual rights.
A nation that trumps individual rights has no right to survive.
...but this step would likely give us way more choice and open the door for many more content creators to enter the market.
And that is the reason why the regulations exist to begin with. They don't want just any old subversive to have access to a broadcast medium. The propaganda machine cannot function without these regulations in place. Further subjugation would not be possible if alternative sources of information are available. This why there is such a mad scramble to control the net.
I just don't think people care anymore, or they believe that their voice won't be heard.
Generally, I would believe you are right, but the recent protests by the French students and the immigrants in the U.S. inspired me to believe that there still is hope. I would prefer a more...shall we say...civilized approach, but if this is what it takes, then cool, as long as the desired result is achieved. Maybe someday, we will be able to acquire our essential freedoms through peaceful means. It all depends on us. These corpoartions and governments can be rendered powerless in a minute if we have the will and desire.
And I just love double standard concept of law... Should have two versions of the law, one where corporations are Guilty until proven innocent?
Not double standard, but a higher standard. We must hold those that we put into a position of power to a higher standard. I believe those who write and enforce the law(or have undue influence) should pay a much higher price if they break it. Then they might be more careful about the laws they write. We must remind them that their jobs exist to serve us.
They've got a huge pile of US dollars and have to spend it somehow...
"The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back!..."
Good encryption is fine for keeping "real" criminals out of your stuff. They can't have you arrested for refusing to give up your key. The gov't, on the other hand... Keep a secret, go to jail.
Yes. Just as soon as the gov't/corps get a key to the back door.
Criticizing Clinton is, at this point, an exercise in political futility. He can't really do much damage at this point.
But SHE can...
If the Linux community had any backbone...
They would be out in the streets by the millions, like the immigrants in the U.S. and the French students and union members, DEMANDING an end to corporate controlled government, the war, the patriot act, etc. It's unfortunate that we must take to the streets what should be done on election day, in the houses of congress, etc., but it seems to be the only way to get justice. Can anybody remember a time when we were able to gain any rights by simply voting for them? They majority doesn't care, They don't want rights. They want convenience. So it appears that the only way to get rid of DRM, regain our rights that are spelled out on paper, and so on, is to show the corporate carpetbaggers and those who choose to ride their coatails who's really boss. So put down your laptops and get your pitchforks and work towards some real change, and put fear of the penguin into their heathen souls.
Did anyone manage to show how a live cell can be created from basic organic, non-live ingredients?
If anyone does, someone will accuse him/her of "playing god".
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Care to explain how, instead of just troll modding? OS X on a PC is little more than what I said it was. It's pretty hard to write really good programs for such crummy hardware. If the Alpha chip and PPC were given as much attention by the developers as Intel, you would understand my point. PC hardware is garbage, a kludge. It only exists to stay compatable with ancient tech. The same reasons that Windows itself is so bloated and unwieldy. Try to see the facts instead of adopting such a radical attitude for something that simply doesn't work very well. Otherwise, we'll using using this junk for another 20 years. You people here should understand that more than most. Alas, it aint gonna happen.
However, I am a serious fan of the process of elections...
Actually, so am I. It's a great spectator sport. I'm not sure which is more exciting, elections or baseball.
I suspect what we need are not better presidents or laws but better politicians and lawyers. If we don't get them, we have only ourselves to blame.
You got it.
Windows will include Aqua in their desktop themes? Apple will be reduced to a shell(skin) of its former self.