There was a time before copyright(and other IP) and people were creating to extent that they could. Besides, so what if they sit on their asses. We don't need "new and improved" every week. IP doesn't help society. It protects business. It's time for business to change its stripes. Using the desire for money and power as a motivator is not viable on the long term.
If you won't apply the rules to everybody, you have no right to apply it anybody. If society says that they do can do bad and not punish them, then the same applies to me.
That's like saying "I chose to be born on this planet" This "implied social contract" is a load of bull. We live in a world of "might makes right". It's that simple. The guy with the gold controls the guy with the gun, and you're going to follow their rules. An "implied social contract" does not involve coercion. An "implied social contract" means voluntarily doing the right thing beacuse it's right, not because someone tells you to.
...changing the law can be done without violating existing copyright...
Heh...tell that to Rosa Parks, or Galileo, or Martin Luther King. Some laws won't be changed until they can be made unenforcable. It took all that bootlegging to make prohibiton unenforcable and thus repealed. Many minority rights wouldn't exist if it weren't for the violators. Only the law breakers will get copyright stricken off the books. This is not an issue in gen pop, and the politicians being constantly re elected are only making matters worse.
We can't talk about respect for "rules" until we apply them to everybody equally. We have very few freedoms today that weren't brought(?) to us by the rule breakers.
...Those companies employ a lot of people... Folks just trying to feed their kids and live life, just like most people...
So, I guess that makes all that payola and price fixing ok then. If you move enough money, the rules don't apply? You can commit criminal acts just because you employ lots of people? Evidently, society approves of this very thing. It's business as usual for them and countless other companies with the same practices. They re-elect the same corrupt politicians over and over.
"Si tu fumas, yo puedo fumar tambien." --or something like that
In a way that's my point. The quality of PC hardware is just too variable. "My" machine were Compaqs(not what I would have bought), not top of the line of course, and to tell the truth, even when when I buy only eight of them, I expect one or two to die in "infancy". I've pulled out more than a few hairs looking for software bugs only to find something inside the case let the smoke out.
Lucky you...I've seen plenty of blue screens caused by hardware, usually RAM(corroded contacts) I installed 8 brand new identical machines at an internet cafe, and two of them would regularly crash just sitting there waiting for clients. New drives would sometimes corrupt files during a restore, requiring another try. x86 hardware even from the same model from the same company is extremely inconsistant. Much of it barely works when new(CD drives), then slowly deteriorates(not so slowly with our humidity). Once a mac gets through "infant mortality"(about a month), it's usually good for many years. I can't say the same for a PC. The crappy new hard drives not withstanding.
I'm sure that when the printing press was invented, there were attempts to have it outlawed completely. Copyright seems to be the watered down version. One thing to remember, copyright was instituted to protect business, or more correctly, outdated business models(like the writer's guides of the times, and presently content distributors), nothing else. Attempts were made to take away all "rights" of the creator. People should be paid for performing work, not selling copies of dead people's stuff. We must regard copies as nothing more than advertisement.
...but it's just not going to happen that a CC-only station is going to get sued for not paying the PROs.
An optimistic one you are. The link you provided shows just how low these people are. Creative commons is not a threat right now to the standard business model. If that were to happen, they would come down on them so hard, it would make what they attempted to do to the girl scouts look like a...well, a pretty minor issue. Like I've said before, these kind of people exist to protect their business model, no matter to what it is applied, music, meat, whatever. If the artists can pick up a few crumbs off the floor, everybody's "happy".
If a band wanted to get noticed nationaly all they would have to do is set up a web site, Bit Torrent there album...
This is precisely what the RIAA is trying to prevent...by vilifying P2P and their attempts to have it banned. All this talk about piracy and kiddie porn is just a "wag the dog" thing. They're trying to outlaw self distribution.
Oh, ye of little faith. In some places, you may need the patience of a monk, but it will come. It can start out as wireless "mini-nets", and later the "real" net will come to us. In any case, it will happen, sooner or later. And this shall make censorship by anybody impossible.
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There was a time before copyright(and other IP) and people were creating to extent that they could. Besides, so what if they sit on their asses. We don't need "new and improved" every week. IP doesn't help society. It protects business. It's time for business to change its stripes. Using the desire for money and power as a motivator is not viable on the long term.
It's progman.exe for me.
So now we have Ogg Voorhis?
If you won't apply the rules to everybody, you have no right to apply it anybody. If society says that they do can do bad and not punish them, then the same applies to me.
You choose to live in a society...
That's like saying "I chose to be born on this planet" This "implied social contract" is a load of bull. We live in a world of "might makes right". It's that simple. The guy with the gold controls the guy with the gun, and you're going to follow their rules. An "implied social contract" does not involve coercion. An "implied social contract" means voluntarily doing the right thing beacuse it's right, not because someone tells you to.
Well, since our "pillars of society" are so cavalier, I'm not sure how we can expect people here to be any different.
If you smoke, I can spoke too? What?
Take another stab at the translation, and then try to understand the analogy.
...changing the law can be done without violating existing copyright...
Heh...tell that to Rosa Parks, or Galileo, or Martin Luther King. Some laws won't be changed until they can be made unenforcable. It took all that bootlegging to make prohibiton unenforcable and thus repealed. Many minority rights wouldn't exist if it weren't for the violators. Only the law breakers will get copyright stricken off the books. This is not an issue in gen pop, and the politicians being constantly re elected are only making matters worse.
We can't talk about respect for "rules" until we apply them to everybody equally. We have very few freedoms today that weren't brought(?) to us by the rule breakers.
...Those companies employ a lot of people... Folks just trying to feed their kids and live life, just like most people...
So, I guess that makes all that payola and price fixing ok then. If you move enough money, the rules don't apply? You can commit criminal acts just because you employ lots of people? Evidently, society approves of this very thing. It's business as usual for them and countless other companies with the same practices. They re-elect the same corrupt politicians over and over.
"Si tu fumas, yo puedo fumar tambien." --or something like that
Perhaps you're just choosing bad hardware.
In a way that's my point. The quality of PC hardware is just too variable. "My" machine were Compaqs(not what I would have bought), not top of the line of course, and to tell the truth, even when when I buy only eight of them, I expect one or two to die in "infancy". I've pulled out more than a few hairs looking for software bugs only to find something inside the case let the smoke out.
Lucky you...I've seen plenty of blue screens caused by hardware, usually RAM(corroded contacts) I installed 8 brand new identical machines at an internet cafe, and two of them would regularly crash just sitting there waiting for clients. New drives would sometimes corrupt files during a restore, requiring another try. x86 hardware even from the same model from the same company is extremely inconsistant. Much of it barely works when new(CD drives), then slowly deteriorates(not so slowly with our humidity). Once a mac gets through "infant mortality"(about a month), it's usually good for many years. I can't say the same for a PC. The crappy new hard drives not withstanding.
the people responsible for these kind of things out of office, this is the future you can expect.
I'm sure that when the printing press was invented, there were attempts to have it outlawed completely. Copyright seems to be the watered down version. One thing to remember, copyright was instituted to protect business, or more correctly, outdated business models(like the writer's guides of the times, and presently content distributors), nothing else. Attempts were made to take away all "rights" of the creator. People should be paid for performing work, not selling copies of dead people's stuff. We must regard copies as nothing more than advertisement.
...but it's just not going to happen that a CC-only station is going to get sued for not paying the PROs.
An optimistic one you are. The link you provided shows just how low these people are. Creative commons is not a threat right now to the standard business model. If that were to happen, they would come down on them so hard, it would make what they attempted to do to the girl scouts look like a...well, a pretty minor issue. Like I've said before, these kind of people exist to protect their business model, no matter to what it is applied, music, meat, whatever. If the artists can pick up a few crumbs off the floor, everybody's "happy".
to keep wandering eyes away from Linux
Yeah, but a light bulb never won an "employee of the week" award.
open it up in photoshop and mess with the levels, color balance, and saturation, and you can bring out the natural colors and still see the lights
You are aware that some laws are literally designed to be broken? made only to bring in revenue? Hardly a new concept.
Umm.. so don't speed and use your turn signal?
Better yet, don't drive.
Seems like a fair trade for lower insurance premiums.
You were being funny...right?
Everything would've been ok if he only...
Bah. As the Aliens vs Predator trailer says: Whoever wins, we lose...
Damn. When I saw that, I thought of this.
You want ugly? I'll give you ugly.
nobody, but nobody is above reproach...
If a band wanted to get noticed nationaly all they would have to do is set up a web site, Bit Torrent there album...
This is precisely what the RIAA is trying to prevent...by vilifying P2P and their attempts to have it banned. All this talk about piracy and kiddie porn is just a "wag the dog" thing. They're trying to outlaw self distribution.
Rapid progress my ass.
Oh, ye of little faith. In some places, you may need the patience of a monk, but it will come. It can start out as wireless "mini-nets", and later the "real" net will come to us. In any case, it will happen, sooner or later. And this shall make censorship by anybody impossible.
oooops...1.2 yeah that's it. A little dyslexic am I. ...Hoping for a better brain in my next life.