That would give me 0.83333333333333333333333333333333 ISP's.
...simply go to another one.
Easy for you to say. This whole situation makes me so glad about the rapid progress of wireless(WIFI). It will eventually give us the chance to dump all ISP's.
I've gotten about 40 Emails over the past year from a Japanese Home Loan Company.[/p][p]I don't own a home.[/p]
Would you like to buy one? Just send me $50 usd, and I'll send you my brochure on how to save money on home loans. We also offer great deals on car loans. and insurance. First 3,000 customers get a free "Will Kit".
Sorry, but you're wrong. Demand is precisely why these things are profitable. Going after the producers will not aleviate the demand. It will only result in higher prices/profits, and will encourage more to take a chance with the authorities, and will also increase corruption amongst the authorities. As far as SPAM and other property crimes are concerned, a nice big fine and garnishment of income is a good solution that can bring in a net profit to the state, as opposed to feeding a prisoner his/her three squares and fixing their teeth for free at tax payer expense.
It may have the beneficial side effect of lower auto insurance because theft could go down...
Oh please...You know that's not about to happen...ever. The extra money will just go into their stock portfolio. You won't ever see lower prices until there is real competition.
Very cool. And as a side note, it appears that boycotts can and do work. From the article: "Tesco ended a tagging trial at a Cambridge store in August, 2003 following a consumer boycott." Maybe there's hope for us after all.
From the link...In fact, the only relevent part: The transcripts were among the dozens of bags of hastily shredded documents seized by Islamic "students" when they stormed the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in November 1979. Bit by bit, the students reassembled the shredded pages and published them in a 40-odd volume series called "Documents from the U.S. Espionage Den."
Sounds fascinating. I couldn't find a copy on Amazon.:-)
Here's a post that can explain it so much better than I could ever hope to. Try to engage in a good discussion with him where you can. He has tons of well reasoned posts on this and many other things. If you can, check it out while it's still on his info page.
It wasn't perfect, and it had flaws, but sometimes the only way to get a mules attention is the clue by four up 'longside the head.
Absolutely. However, I think from the passive resistance(Gandhi in particular) point of view, they may have thought that life on earth isn't all there is, and if you have to keep on fighting to find some peace, then they would decide to forego life and accept the inevitable. I'm not sure my take on it is what they actually think, but maybe they're thinking "better luck next life.". These are personal feeling of mine, that's all. I can't picture myself constantly have to look over my shoulder, and I don't feel much better to have to hire someone else to do it for me. Especially considering the people being hired to do it. I've been told not to think about that way and just do what you can to bring personal peace, but I just can't get over it. Personal problem that only I can fix, I guess. You're right, though. You can only kick a dog for so long before he's going to bite back. That's perfectly natural and should be expected by those kicking the dog.
Except for the fact the poor guy killed himself, I found the event rather humorous, not his motives(he was mad as hell), just the event itself. The story indicated that he did try(and I believe successed) to avoid injuring others. An even crazier one was when a guy stole a tank from a nat'l guard armory and proceeded to smash every car in his path. The video is very famous, but I can't find it. One of those "Most shocking videos" things, I believe. Though I feel sorry for the owners, when he squashed the motorhome, I damn near busted a gut. He, too, didn't hurt anybody but himself, but he sure made a mess. You're right. I'm also very surprised more people don't go nuts, but then, with airplanes and cars being as inherently dangerous as they are, I'm also surprised that most of them don't end up in flames. I used to be an electro mechanic for an airline, and I had plenty of time near the end of the shift to watch these things take off and land. I would think that they just needed to get a little bit sideways and it would be all over. Especially the 747. The thing is a monster. It flies on PFM. We are a lucky bunch in many ways. I do think, however, that with the net, more people are going to become more aware of the utter hyprocrisy that we are living under, and more of them are going to react poorly to it. Which, unfortunately, will probably lead to more gov't crackdowns. Don't be too surprised when we might get our own "Tiananmen Square" event on this side of the pond. We've already had a couple of "mini" ones, like Kent State, and the bombing of the move headquarters in Philly, and maybe, depending on your POV, the branch davidians,(I know nothing of that. He may have been actually dangerous, only Mr. Janet Reno knows for sure) to name just a few. That is why I believe Gandhi's way of dealing with it is the only way. I would like(hate) to see how the gov't can crack down on "non-cooperation". Turning your back is so very effective. Just ask any kid who has been through the "silent treatment" by their "friends". Hell, just by boycotting cocaine, the gov't would have rescind the tax cut and most likely have to raise taxes, and Bush himself would be broke inside of six months But that's going to take damn near all of us to pull that off.
My bad...I edited your post to make it look like you were talking about just the Americans leaving the subject of China completely out...Sorry 'bout that..I hope people will just read your post. Later
They are goons, I hope their people finally get hip and revolt against those goons...we suck as bad as any other bogus dictator run nation.
Man, you got that right. Ever heard of this?: We're at that awkward stage in our history where it's too late to fix things by voting, but it's still too early to just shoot the bastards. Can't remember where I saw that(in fact, I'm sure I posted it more than once before...to somebody...don't remember who. This drinking to forget thing is really working well.), but I do like it. I don't know. With the World Bank, Citicorp, IMF, whatever running the show, this whole talk about "nations ansd sovereignty" has been reduced to an act of mental masturbation.(this I did post before) Kinda why I ragged on people earlier about this whole thread being off topic. But since it grew so large, I figured, what the heck, I'll join in on the fun. After all, it is a favorite subject of mine. On the matter of the original story, I wasn't real impressed. China buys a bunch of computers, cluster them all together. Now they have a fast computer. Ok, now what? Did anyone think they weren't capable of it? Are they going to make an animated movie called "Finding Hoffa"? Let me know when they do it in Barrow, Alaska. All those AMD's will melt the ice cap for sure.
All governments are violating human rights everywhere. What does this have to do with the price of rice here? We're all the same basically. So leave it at that, and let's discuss computers, please. Now what I want to know is how many more turbines are they going to need to install at Three Gorges Dam to power this thing? I can see the lights going dim when they boot up.:-)
web designers were put the desired content into a pop-up? Meaning that you would have to allow pop-ups to see it, leaving you vulnerable to all the other pop-ups. Is this being done yet? I know some sites require you to enable cookies to "enjoy" the full content, or to set preferences.
Kind of like a pre-season game? Maybe no charges were filed, but you still gotta show up and play. And they still took his stuff, which even if no charges are ever filed, he night not get back.
Hello there. Wazzup? I'm not sure if you caught my more recent posts on the subject. While unauthorized distribution may be an issue to you, the real issue here is that the industry is trying to kill any form of self distribution by criminalizing the tools that make it possible. Even to the point of attempting to restrict the band from recording and selling copies of a concert after it has finished, using the patent system. These bands(going back to at least the Gratefutl Dead) realize that copies are little more than free advertising to attract people to their next show, and it's usually pretty effective. The only people really hurt by file sharing are the unauthorized distributors who sell the copies(the real pirates), and of course the middlemen, and the RI/MPAA itself. It seems that the RIAA is trying to protect the pirate's business in addition to their own, since they do work hand in hand to acquire mindshare. You can put all the copy protection you want onto a CD or broadcast, and it won't even begin to affect the pros who can press exact copies of the original, copy protection and all. They know this, and this is why I suspect they are trying stamp out the ability for an artist to bypass them. Believe me, these people have absolutely no compassion for the artists who just signed over all their rights. This is about protecting a business model that simply no longer applies. This attitude goes back to the time of Gutenberg when the writer's guilds were trying to protect their business from the very same thing. They're trying to tell us that only they have a right to distribute anything, and if you want to get an audience, you have to go through them. I'm counting on the people's ability to see through this facade and act accordingly by not buying anything with any kind of DRM. Since this thread isn't specifically about music, this post may seem a bit off topic, but the same rules apply here. And remember if you're going to P2P, be sure to lift the lid first.
...St.Peter, don't you call me cuz I can't go, I owe my soul to the company store...."
-- Merle Travis, 1947
That reminded me of this:
Work your fingers to the bone - whadda ya get? ( Whoo-whoo ) Boney Fingers - Boney Fing-gers. --Hoyt Axton A good one for all those mad programers out there...
click...unauthorized distribution...click...unauthorized distribution...click...Yes, that's what it soulds like...a broken record. Just how many times does it need to pounded into your heads that unauthorized distribution is NOT the issue. It's about stamping out self distribution. By outlawing the tools that make it possible. Here's a little story that just might help you (the editorial you) understand what they're really are trying to do. The pirates who sell copies will continue unabated with their CD stampers that record exact copies, protection and all. It seems that the RIAA is trying to protect their business. How ironic. Other people, much more eloquent than me(I?) have posted on this. Try to look them up. They are indeed insightful.
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ISPs are a dime a dozen.
...simply go to another one.
That would give me 0.83333333333333333333333333333333 ISP's.
Easy for you to say. This whole situation makes me so glad about the rapid progress of wireless(WIFI). It will eventually give us the chance to dump all ISP's.
I've gotten about 40 Emails over the past year from a Japanese Home Loan Company.[/p][p]I don't own a home.[/p]
Would you like to buy one? Just send me $50 usd, and I'll send you my brochure on how to save money on home loans. We also offer great deals on car loans. and insurance. First 3,000 customers get a free "Will Kit".
Sorry, but you're wrong. Demand is precisely why these things are profitable. Going after the producers will not aleviate the demand. It will only result in higher prices/profits, and will encourage more to take a chance with the authorities, and will also increase corruption amongst the authorities. As far as SPAM and other property crimes are concerned, a nice big fine and garnishment of income is a good solution that can bring in a net profit to the state, as opposed to feeding a prisoner his/her three squares and fixing their teeth for free at tax payer expense.
It may have the beneficial side effect of lower auto insurance because theft could go down...
Oh please...You know that's not about to happen...ever. The extra money will just go into their stock portfolio. You won't ever see lower prices until there is real competition.
Very cool. And as a side note, it appears that boycotts can and do work. From the article: "Tesco ended a tagging trial at a Cambridge store in August, 2003 following a consumer boycott." Maybe there's hope for us after all.
Like hell I'd submit to this!
Going to stop driving are you? Most people will accept this to "protect the children", "war on terrorism", or other whacko ideas.
When Dell sees their product sales sagging...
They'll blame it on P2P.
...i dread to think where we'd be..
Wouldn't want a repeat of this now, would we?
From the link...In fact, the only relevent part:
The transcripts were among the dozens of bags of hastily shredded documents seized by Islamic "students" when they stormed the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in November 1979. Bit by bit, the students reassembled the shredded pages and published them in a 40-odd volume series called "Documents from the U.S. Espionage Den."
Sounds fascinating. I couldn't find a copy on Amazon.:-)
Here's a post that can explain it so much better than I could ever hope to. Try to engage in a good discussion with him where you can. He has tons of well reasoned posts on this and many other things. If you can, check it out while it's still on his info page.
If we're compensating them, where did we go wrong?
Sometimes the magic works, Sometimes it doesn't. -Old Lodge Skins
It wasn't perfect, and it had flaws, but sometimes the only way to get a mules attention is the clue by four up 'longside the head.
Absolutely. However, I think from the passive resistance(Gandhi in particular) point of view, they may have thought that life on earth isn't all there is, and if you have to keep on fighting to find some peace, then they would decide to forego life and accept the inevitable. I'm not sure my take on it is what they actually think, but maybe they're thinking "better luck next life.". These are personal feeling of mine, that's all. I can't picture myself constantly have to look over my shoulder, and I don't feel much better to have to hire someone else to do it for me. Especially considering the people being hired to do it. I've been told not to think about that way and just do what you can to bring personal peace, but I just can't get over it. Personal problem that only I can fix, I guess. You're right, though. You can only kick a dog for so long before he's going to bite back. That's perfectly natural and should be expected by those kicking the dog.
Except for the fact the poor guy killed himself, I found the event rather humorous, not his motives(he was mad as hell), just the event itself. The story indicated that he did try(and I believe successed) to avoid injuring others. An even crazier one was when a guy stole a tank from a nat'l guard armory and proceeded to smash every car in his path. The video is very famous, but I can't find it. One of those "Most shocking videos" things, I believe. Though I feel sorry for the owners, when he squashed the motorhome, I damn near busted a gut. He, too, didn't hurt anybody but himself, but he sure made a mess. You're right. I'm also very surprised more people don't go nuts, but then, with airplanes and cars being as inherently dangerous as they are, I'm also surprised that most of them don't end up in flames. I used to be an electro mechanic for an airline, and I had plenty of time near the end of the shift to watch these things take off and land. I would think that they just needed to get a little bit sideways and it would be all over. Especially the 747. The thing is a monster. It flies on PFM. We are a lucky bunch in many ways. I do think, however, that with the net, more people are going to become more aware of the utter hyprocrisy that we are living under, and more of them are going to react poorly to it. Which, unfortunately, will probably lead to more gov't crackdowns. Don't be too surprised when we might get our own "Tiananmen Square" event on this side of the pond. We've already had a couple of "mini" ones, like Kent State, and the bombing of the move headquarters in Philly, and maybe, depending on your POV, the branch davidians,(I know nothing of that. He may have been actually dangerous, only Mr. Janet Reno knows for sure) to name just a few. That is why I believe Gandhi's way of dealing with it is the only way. I would like(hate) to see how the gov't can crack down on "non-cooperation". Turning your back is so very effective. Just ask any kid who has been through the "silent treatment" by their "friends". Hell, just by boycotting cocaine, the gov't would have rescind the tax cut and most likely have to raise taxes, and Bush himself would be broke inside of six months But that's going to take damn near all of us to pull that off.
My bad...I edited your post to make it look like you were talking about just the Americans leaving the subject of China completely out...Sorry 'bout that..I hope people will just read your post. Later
They are goons, I hope their people finally get hip and revolt against those goons...we suck as bad as any other bogus dictator run nation.
Man, you got that right. Ever heard of this?: We're at that awkward stage in our history where it's too late to fix things by voting, but it's still too early to just shoot the bastards. Can't remember where I saw that(in fact, I'm sure I posted it more than once before...to somebody...don't remember who. This drinking to forget thing is really working well.), but I do like it. I don't know. With the World Bank, Citicorp, IMF, whatever running the show, this whole talk about "nations ansd sovereignty" has been reduced to an act of mental masturbation.(this I did post before) Kinda why I ragged on people earlier about this whole thread being off topic. But since it grew so large, I figured, what the heck, I'll join in on the fun. After all, it is a favorite subject of mine.
On the matter of the original story, I wasn't real impressed. China buys a bunch of computers, cluster them all together. Now they have a fast computer. Ok, now what? Did anyone think they weren't capable of it? Are they going to make an animated movie called "Finding Hoffa"? Let me know when they do it in Barrow, Alaska. All those AMD's will melt the ice cap for sure.
If I want to go sell a bunch of old movies on eBay...
You may have include a disclaimer stating: "Finger not included." On the other hand, with eBay, fingers could sell as well as 2 "digit" Slashdot ID's.
Probably a violation of RIAA...
No, it's a violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Get it? Bwaaahhaaahhaaa.
All governments are violating human rights everywhere. What does this have to do with the price of rice here? We're all the same basically. So leave it at that, and let's discuss computers, please. Now what I want to know is how many more turbines are they going to need to install at Three Gorges Dam to power this thing? I can see the lights going dim when they boot up.:-)
web designers were put the desired content into a pop-up? Meaning that you would have to allow pop-ups to see it, leaving you vulnerable to all the other pop-ups. Is this being done yet? I know some sites require you to enable cookies to "enjoy" the full content, or to set preferences.
if you want an unlimited source of free energy, just attach a turbine to George Orwell's body
Wouldn't it be better to attach a generator?
I don't claim to know anything about biology...
Don't know much about history
Don't know much about biology
Don't know much about a science-book
Don't know much about the French I took...
It's a pre trial thing...
Kind of like a pre-season game? Maybe no charges were filed, but you still gotta show up and play. And they still took his stuff, which even if no charges are ever filed, he night not get back.
Hello there. Wazzup? I'm not sure if you caught my more recent posts on the subject. While unauthorized distribution may be an issue to you, the real issue here is that the industry is trying to kill any form of self distribution by criminalizing the tools that make it possible. Even to the point of attempting to restrict the band from recording and selling copies of a concert after it has finished, using the patent system. These bands(going back to at least the Gratefutl Dead) realize that copies are little more than free advertising to attract people to their next show, and it's usually pretty effective. The only people really hurt by file sharing are the unauthorized distributors who sell the copies(the real pirates), and of course the middlemen, and the RI/MPAA itself. It seems that the RIAA is trying to protect the pirate's business in addition to their own, since they do work hand in hand to acquire mindshare. You can put all the copy protection you want onto a CD or broadcast, and it won't even begin to affect the pros who can press exact copies of the original, copy protection and all. They know this, and this is why I suspect they are trying stamp out the ability for an artist to bypass them. Believe me, these people have absolutely no compassion for the artists who just signed over all their rights. This is about protecting a business model that simply no longer applies. This attitude goes back to the time of Gutenberg when the writer's guilds were trying to protect their business from the very same thing. They're trying to tell us that only they have a right to distribute anything, and if you want to get an audience, you have to go through them. I'm counting on the people's ability to see through this facade and act accordingly by not buying anything with any kind of DRM. Since this thread isn't specifically about music, this post may seem a bit off topic, but the same rules apply here. And remember if you're going to P2P, be sure to lift the lid first.
Later...
Damn, I guess you're right.:-)
...St.Peter, don't you call me cuz I can't go,
I owe my soul to the company store...."
-- Merle Travis, 1947
That reminded me of this:
Work your fingers to the bone - whadda ya get?
( Whoo-whoo ) Boney Fingers - Boney Fing-gers.
--Hoyt Axton
A good one for all those mad programers out there...
click...unauthorized distribution...click...unauthorized distribution...click...Yes, that's what it soulds like...a broken record. Just how many times does it need to pounded into your heads that unauthorized distribution is NOT the issue. It's about stamping out self distribution. By outlawing the tools that make it possible. Here's a little story that just might help you (the editorial you) understand what they're really are trying to do. The pirates who sell copies will continue unabated with their CD stampers that record exact copies, protection and all. It seems that the RIAA is trying to protect their business. How ironic. Other people, much more eloquent than me(I?) have posted on this. Try to look them up. They are indeed insightful.