Go to trade school and be a plumber. Probably make more money than I do.
University is for education not obtaining marketable skills. It just happens that in many places your not allowed to do something until you have a piece of paper to say your not a complete moron. Usually those come AFTER a normal degree to get a professional one, say doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc...
Ha, I almost tried to get an upgrade to 9.3 maybe I am glad I didn't now. Perhaps just wait until I get a new work computer and do it then fresh, sounds safer that way.
I have used some of the alternatives. They are not good. ESRI has problems I will agree. With how technology is going, if they don't get off their laurels and hike up their socks, they are going to be in real trouble over the next ten years I predict.
Also stuck with 9.2. Try importing a 9.3 toolbox for fun or even just a 9.3 Python script. Next step, claw eyes out and bash head against keyboard for 2 or 3 days.
1) Where do you think Google Maps/Google Earth got its data from? The afore mentioned dinosaurs. 2) While easy on the eyes, you can't do analytical work with them. The tools and the data just isn't there, as it has all be simplified for public consumption. If we want a pretty map, in the past we would call a cartographer and build us a pretty map. GIS was and is for analytical work, for use in making decisions.
While serving it up to the public is nice, and sometimes snazzy it hasn't been the primary driver. I am MORE than happy to allow Google etc... take over that business, enjoy! I will happily make XML files all day for Google Maps, or KML for Google Earth. That said, I dare you to try and make either using a 500MB GIS file, or 100MB, or even 50MB. You have to seriously dumb down the data, or use very small datasets, unless you like your user to sit and wait ages for either Google Maps API or Google Earth to load.
Though I will agree with you that over the years, GIS went from bleeding edge in graphics, to no edge. Used to be that a GIS used every new thing the graphics card industry put in graphics cards. Their high end stuff was designed for GIS/CAD. However in most uses you are crunching numbers/tables to get a result, looking pretty is secondary. In fact I would say a faster refresh is better for getting actual work done than slick looking graphics (though large rez/multi monitor). But yeah I would agree GIS has fallen behind.
I remember when GPS was pretty special. We had 'em and like boats did, and they cost 5000$ for a decent one. Now my phone has one? I can buy a stand alone a a local store for like 300$ probably. Hell even Car GPS is passe now! Technology changes...
Agreed. It IS a steaming pile of crap. It just happens to be the BEST steaming pile of crap currently available. I work with it, and have for 10 years. It is amazing the stuff that is wrong with it that never gets fixed. Or the stuff than breaks when they do actually fix or change something.
For instance just last week my pet project / obsession was trying to permanently sort (ie so as soon as you close the attribute table your working on it doesn't revert back to the original sort order) a simple table. After doing some searching in ArcScripts and google, there are scripts going back to freaking ArcView to do it, yet the functionality does not exist in ArcMap. After finding two python scripts, I try to use these. However they are compatible with 9.3 and not 9.2, so not only will it not import and I have to re-build the entire data window and map parameters to variables within a script I didn't write, but once I do it still doesn't work because the actual python code compatibility has changed from 9.2 to 9.3, so I would have to actually re-write someone else's code using new looping structures, etc...
To tie this all in to the article I was trying to use ESRI's 3D Analyst fuction to Export to KML (for Google Earth), in which you need to heavily edit your data first, as the exporter just spits out what it sees and will not let you customize on the fly (and the need to do this whole procedure if your data changes). Hence the need to order it, unless you want it listed in Google Earth in some silly random way, making it impossible for the user to look up a value in the list.
In the end I thought about upgrading to 9.3 simply to save myself the trouble as it was getting ridiculous for the simple thing I was trying to do. Finally I found a independently made extension made by someone else that I could import and use. Is that really the functionality fix for ESRI? Seriously?
I'll not even get into the symbology problems (where you have to rebuild it every time your data changes), where the ESRI tech simply gave up and said, "Sorry it can't do that...".
I agree with you that Sony disabling the OtherOS option was a kick in the sprouts, and generally speaking I think Sony is a horrible company that I refuse to buy products from, PS3 included (though once upon a time I considered, and thankfully heeded my own advice).
Having said that it is about money, but it is about selling PS3 games, and people pirating games. I think it is pretty common sense that for every 1 person that might legitimately (in my mind anyway) tinker with it, install new hardware, install new OS, etc... there is likely 10,000 that would just buy a mod-chip online so they can download a thousand PS3 games for free and play them without paying.
Just saying that is the most likely eventuality, and to which one Sony is protecting against. Because once that happens, Sony may not make as much money off the games they produce, and if it becomes too rampant, developers may think twice about making a game for the PS3 in the first place (or at least exclusively for the PS3 anyway).
Personally I wish the hackers well, as I have no love for Sony.
Seriously though, you can raise taxes of the rich elite to 150% if you want, but the end result will be the same. They hide all their wealth in tax loop holes and offshore accounts. Or if you work at Apple, in a shoebox labeled "Kickbackz"...
I would likely say that road conditions are the #1 cause of accidents. I also drive the same way. Up here in Canada there is a law that allows for police to pull you over and ticket you at any speed, if they feel you are driving too fast as conditions warrant. Not sure how much they use it, as they would likely have to justify it rather than the cut and dry "your going X in a Y speed limit".
One thing that bugs me is people who drive without snow tires up here in the middle of a blizzard. Either A) They drive too fast, and are not long for this world, or road anyway, or B) they drive so ridiculously slow because it is all their tires can handle. Very frustrating. If your not equipped for the conditions get off the road!
I think in Canada, if they wanted to do one thing to reduce the number of accidents, would be to mandate that if there is snow on a road, vehicles must have snow tires on. I know there are some problems with that, but in some form I think it would really make a difference. All seasons are not all seasons, unless you maybe live in Texas or something. They do nothing in snow.
While there are some vile people out there, I think there is a special place in hell (sorry for irony), RSVP'ed for the charlatans on TV that basically use god simply to swindle money from old people and the unenlightened... Makes me sick just to watch. Even worse these the snake oil salesmen that are allowed to have silly infomercials to bilk the same money out of they same demographic of people. Just people taking advantage.
Stupefyingly rich and connected doesn't equate to educated it seems. On the surface it seems if you have money, you can just buy a degree to any school. It also sort of proves that there is little connection between education and how far you can go, I mean he was President. For two terms.
Its because of how our minds work. We categorize things, we name things, we describe things, by the very definition we create BOUNDARIES around things that are and are not. We make generic terms for absolute values we really don't understand. Things like everything, or nothing. The same logical fallacy, If god is so great, have him make a bolder he cannot lift. It is circular logic based on an absolute value that we don't really comprehend other than we have given it a name. We seem to be great at conceptualizing things to make them simpler and easier to understand, however the real world which we try to describe is more complex than that, and we have difficulty with that principle. A favorite example is static vs dynamic. I don't think there is anything in the "real" world that is static, everything (oops there we go) is dynamic. Static only applies to conceptual ideas, not things. Take an apple for example. Someone might argue that a single apple is one static thing. However even a lowly apple is made up of particles that are moving, vibrating, changing shape, over time (don't even get me started on time). If you proceed smaller and smaller it becomes more and more volatile. At some point "stuff" is so dispirsed, that calling it anything, other than just "space" would be ridiculous. Are we prepared for the idea that we exist in some sort of dynamic cosmic apple? Its pretty mind blowing. Also by its very nature, of being absolute, there is only but two occurrences in the entire universe, and because of its rarity and our limited interaction to it, it is not all that surprising that we fail to really comprehend what it is all about. I am convinced that part of our problem is that we evolved thinking through communication (though some might argue the other way around, but it is a moot point, only that one is based on the other), and that limits the way we can actually perceive things around us and how well we can really understand. Personally there is likely at some higher level of understanding a trick of physics that evolves beyond the idea of limits and boundaries, where the definition of infinity isn't quite what we currently perceive it to be. We also pretty much have to use our minds to perceive things. Something like 80% of all information we receive is visual. That of course is limited to the visual spectrum of light. Most thing at a very small of big scale we look at what we can shoot at it, and try to observe what happens (bounce, bend, flicker, movement, etc..). In most cases that is light. However at the very small scale (relative to us) light will actually change what it is trying to observe due to its similar size. There are also problems at the other end of the spectrum (pardon pun) where light becomes diffuse and dispersed but more importantly, very very slow on a cosmic level. Things like the Large Hadron Collider are the next step in elemental observation, though it think it only gets harder from here. Science might be on an exponential curve of difficulty as we leave the realm of learning about things in approximation to ourselves. It could be that we have mostly learned most of the easy stuff (so far as physics is concerned), and that it gets much harder and slower from here on out. I know anytime I try to figure out this sort of stuff my brain hurts, and I end up having to cool it down with beer or something.
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Go to trade school and be a plumber. Probably make more money than I do.
University is for education not obtaining marketable skills. It just happens that in many places your not allowed to do something until you have a piece of paper to say your not a complete moron. Usually those come AFTER a normal degree to get a professional one, say doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc...
A conference call over Vent would be funny.
+Guild Chat
+Rankor's Room
+Raid1
+Raid2
+Raid3
+Business Conference
"Now if all the raid members would kindly leave out channel so we can get down to business... No Stan, get out of Raid1 chat..."
Ha, I almost tried to get an upgrade to 9.3 maybe I am glad I didn't now. Perhaps just wait until I get a new work computer and do it then fresh, sounds safer that way.
I have used some of the alternatives. They are not good. ESRI has problems I will agree. With how technology is going, if they don't get off their laurels and hike up their socks, they are going to be in real trouble over the next ten years I predict.
Considering Google Maps/Google Earth got 99% of their data from someone else using the afore mentioned software...
Also stuck with 9.2. Try importing a 9.3 toolbox for fun or even just a 9.3 Python script. Next step, claw eyes out and bash head against keyboard for 2 or 3 days.
Yes and no.
1) Where do you think Google Maps/Google Earth got its data from? The afore mentioned dinosaurs.
2) While easy on the eyes, you can't do analytical work with them. The tools and the data just isn't there, as it has all be simplified for public consumption. If we want a pretty map, in the past we would call a cartographer and build us a pretty map. GIS was and is for analytical work, for use in making decisions.
While serving it up to the public is nice, and sometimes snazzy it hasn't been the primary driver. I am MORE than happy to allow Google etc... take over that business, enjoy! I will happily make XML files all day for Google Maps, or KML for Google Earth. That said, I dare you to try and make either using a 500MB GIS file, or 100MB, or even 50MB. You have to seriously dumb down the data, or use very small datasets, unless you like your user to sit and wait ages for either Google Maps API or Google Earth to load.
Though I will agree with you that over the years, GIS went from bleeding edge in graphics, to no edge. Used to be that a GIS used every new thing the graphics card industry put in graphics cards. Their high end stuff was designed for GIS/CAD. However in most uses you are crunching numbers/tables to get a result, looking pretty is secondary. In fact I would say a faster refresh is better for getting actual work done than slick looking graphics (though large rez/multi monitor). But yeah I would agree GIS has fallen behind.
I remember when GPS was pretty special. We had 'em and like boats did, and they cost 5000$ for a decent one. Now my phone has one? I can buy a stand alone a a local store for like 300$ probably. Hell even Car GPS is passe now! Technology changes...
Oh and they still use DBF table structures. Wah?
Agreed. It IS a steaming pile of crap. It just happens to be the BEST steaming pile of crap currently available. I work with it, and have for 10 years. It is amazing the stuff that is wrong with it that never gets fixed. Or the stuff than breaks when they do actually fix or change something.
For instance just last week my pet project / obsession was trying to permanently sort (ie so as soon as you close the attribute table your working on it doesn't revert back to the original sort order) a simple table. After doing some searching in ArcScripts and google, there are scripts going back to freaking ArcView to do it, yet the functionality does not exist in ArcMap. After finding two python scripts, I try to use these. However they are compatible with 9.3 and not 9.2, so not only will it not import and I have to re-build the entire data window and map parameters to variables within a script I didn't write, but once I do it still doesn't work because the actual python code compatibility has changed from 9.2 to 9.3, so I would have to actually re-write someone else's code using new looping structures, etc...
To tie this all in to the article I was trying to use ESRI's 3D Analyst fuction to Export to KML (for Google Earth), in which you need to heavily edit your data first, as the exporter just spits out what it sees and will not let you customize on the fly (and the need to do this whole procedure if your data changes). Hence the need to order it, unless you want it listed in Google Earth in some silly random way, making it impossible for the user to look up a value in the list.
In the end I thought about upgrading to 9.3 simply to save myself the trouble as it was getting ridiculous for the simple thing I was trying to do. Finally I found a independently made extension made by someone else that I could import and use. Is that really the functionality fix for ESRI? Seriously?
I'll not even get into the symbology problems (where you have to rebuild it every time your data changes), where the ESRI tech simply gave up and said, "Sorry it can't do that...".
Yes comparing a free online service to a professional editing tool where a single licence runs you 10k is a fair comparison.
Well yes and no.
I agree with you that Sony disabling the OtherOS option was a kick in the sprouts, and generally speaking I think Sony is a horrible company that I refuse to buy products from, PS3 included (though once upon a time I considered, and thankfully heeded my own advice).
Having said that it is about money, but it is about selling PS3 games, and people pirating games. I think it is pretty common sense that for every 1 person that might legitimately (in my mind anyway) tinker with it, install new hardware, install new OS, etc... there is likely 10,000 that would just buy a mod-chip online so they can download a thousand PS3 games for free and play them without paying.
Just saying that is the most likely eventuality, and to which one Sony is protecting against. Because once that happens, Sony may not make as much money off the games they produce, and if it becomes too rampant, developers may think twice about making a game for the PS3 in the first place (or at least exclusively for the PS3 anyway).
Personally I wish the hackers well, as I have no love for Sony.
That is what accountants are for.
Seriously though, you can raise taxes of the rich elite to 150% if you want, but the end result will be the same. They hide all their wealth in tax loop holes and offshore accounts. Or if you work at Apple, in a shoebox labeled "Kickbackz"...
Two Words: Ann Coulter
I would likely say that road conditions are the #1 cause of accidents. I also drive the same way. Up here in Canada there is a law that allows for police to pull you over and ticket you at any speed, if they feel you are driving too fast as conditions warrant. Not sure how much they use it, as they would likely have to justify it rather than the cut and dry "your going X in a Y speed limit".
One thing that bugs me is people who drive without snow tires up here in the middle of a blizzard. Either A) They drive too fast, and are not long for this world, or road anyway, or B) they drive so ridiculously slow because it is all their tires can handle. Very frustrating. If your not equipped for the conditions get off the road!
I think in Canada, if they wanted to do one thing to reduce the number of accidents, would be to mandate that if there is snow on a road, vehicles must have snow tires on. I know there are some problems with that, but in some form I think it would really make a difference. All seasons are not all seasons, unless you maybe live in Texas or something. They do nothing in snow.
While there are some vile people out there, I think there is a special place in hell (sorry for irony), RSVP'ed for the charlatans on TV that basically use god simply to swindle money from old people and the unenlightened... Makes me sick just to watch. Even worse these the snake oil salesmen that are allowed to have silly infomercials to bilk the same money out of they same demographic of people. Just people taking advantage.
well they sort of are mining for humans now...
Ya but when you take all that away, what do you get?
Canada :)
Meh. I'll wait for Blizzard to make Duke Nukem Online or DNO...
I'll play a stripper with a shrink ray.
He did sort of get his wish when the police reduced the Earth's human population by 1.
Sort of sad really. He sounds crazy, but he made a good point about overpopulation and the inaction around the issue.
Not the best way to approach it, though likely frustrated, and well crazy.
Didn't some fat chicks already sue McDonalds? I don't think I ever did find out what became of that...
Yeah, but will it Overclock?
Oh yes and Google, how could I forget Google.
So yeah. Overpay, for a company that doesn't make any money that competes now directly with both Apple and Google.
Let me know how that turns out for you.
lucrative market of video communications
Has Skype ever made any actual real money? What is with the valuation?
Now that Apple has thrown in as competition you pick now to take over this company.
Enjoy Crack Much?
Stupefyingly rich and connected doesn't equate to educated it seems. On the surface it seems if you have money, you can just buy a degree to any school. It also sort of proves that there is little connection between education and how far you can go, I mean he was President. For two terms.
Its because of how our minds work. We categorize things, we name things, we describe things, by the very definition we create BOUNDARIES around things that are and are not. We make generic terms for absolute values we really don't understand. Things like everything, or nothing. The same logical fallacy, If god is so great, have him make a bolder he cannot lift. It is circular logic based on an absolute value that we don't really comprehend other than we have given it a name. We seem to be great at conceptualizing things to make them simpler and easier to understand, however the real world which we try to describe is more complex than that, and we have difficulty with that principle. A favorite example is static vs dynamic. I don't think there is anything in the "real" world that is static, everything (oops there we go) is dynamic. Static only applies to conceptual ideas, not things. Take an apple for example. Someone might argue that a single apple is one static thing. However even a lowly apple is made up of particles that are moving, vibrating, changing shape, over time (don't even get me started on time). If you proceed smaller and smaller it becomes more and more volatile. At some point "stuff" is so dispirsed, that calling it anything, other than just "space" would be ridiculous. Are we prepared for the idea that we exist in some sort of dynamic cosmic apple? Its pretty mind blowing. Also by its very nature, of being absolute, there is only but two occurrences in the entire universe, and because of its rarity and our limited interaction to it, it is not all that surprising that we fail to really comprehend what it is all about. I am convinced that part of our problem is that we evolved thinking through communication (though some might argue the other way around, but it is a moot point, only that one is based on the other), and that limits the way we can actually perceive things around us and how well we can really understand. Personally there is likely at some higher level of understanding a trick of physics that evolves beyond the idea of limits and boundaries, where the definition of infinity isn't quite what we currently perceive it to be. We also pretty much have to use our minds to perceive things. Something like 80% of all information we receive is visual. That of course is limited to the visual spectrum of light. Most thing at a very small of big scale we look at what we can shoot at it, and try to observe what happens (bounce, bend, flicker, movement, etc..). In most cases that is light. However at the very small scale (relative to us) light will actually change what it is trying to observe due to its similar size. There are also problems at the other end of the spectrum (pardon pun) where light becomes diffuse and dispersed but more importantly, very very slow on a cosmic level. Things like the Large Hadron Collider are the next step in elemental observation, though it think it only gets harder from here. Science might be on an exponential curve of difficulty as we leave the realm of learning about things in approximation to ourselves. It could be that we have mostly learned most of the easy stuff (so far as physics is concerned), and that it gets much harder and slower from here on out. I know anytime I try to figure out this sort of stuff my brain hurts, and I end up having to cool it down with beer or something.
and no i don't believe in paragraphs! :)