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The Push For Colbert's "Restoring Truthiness" Rally
jamie writes "A grassroots campaign has begun to get Stephen Colbert to hold a rally on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial to counter Glenn Beck's recent 'Restoring Honor' event. The would-be rally has been dubbed 'Restoring Truthiness' and was inspired by a recent post on Reddit, where a young woman wondered if the only way to point out the absurdity of the Tea Party's rally would be if Colbert mirrored it with his own Colbert Nation.'"
If he will resort to weeping publicly over his concern for our great Republic, I will show up and offer him a kleenex. It's only decent.
Yes, it was funny when it made the top page of Reddit. It was funnier when they acknowledged it on the Comedy Central blog. It will be the ultimate insult to GB and Fox WHEN Stephen gets about 1M more people there than Glen did.
put the what in the where?
Why is this on Slashdot?
I couldn't care less about the Tea Party or Colbert. It isn't real news. It certainly isn't for nerds.
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It seems like 3/4th of the publicity Glenn Beck gets is from people calling him a raging idiot. Maybe if we just stop paying attention to him, and Jon Stewart stops making fun of him every single show, he might just go away when he realizes most people don't care about the crap he spews out of that hole he calls a mouth.
Shouldn't this be in idle?
Controversy leads to page hits. Page hits lead to advertisers. Advertisers lead to income. Income leads to getting laid.
Mystery solved.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
If you put in the proposed date into a binary translator, 10/10/10, you get an output of 42!!! The answer to everything is this rally!!!
This is better than geese flying over.
Where can I register? I want to go!
Every so often I think it's a sad state of affairs for journalism when satirists like John Stewart and Stephen Colbert on a comedy channel are considered more reliable, trustworthy, and objective in their reporting than "serious" (for lack of a better term) journalists like Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly on what's supposed to be a news channel.
Are usually nerdy college students or people who live in their parent's basement rent free. In other words dependents who are dependant upon staying out from the daylight. You really think they are going to get a bunch of them pryed away from their gamestations and computers long enough to go outside to a rally in the hot burning sun?
You would have better luck convincing Vampires to eat a cloves of garlic while standing in an open air church at high noon.
You shouldn't assume that everyone who watches the same shows you do is like you.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
Just curious, but what data are you basing that extremely general claim off of? Or is your post meant to troll all those who like Colbert/Stewart for whatever reason you have?
where a young woman wondered if the only way to point out the absurdity of the Tea Party's rally would be if Colbert mirrored it with his own Colbert Nation.'"
It's certainly easier than, you know, actually acknowledging and dealing with their ideas...
The date they want to hold the rally is 10 October of '10. I.E., 10/10/10, however they have the poster written with the date as 101010, which is binary for 42, which, as we all know, is the answer to life, the universe and everything. Its the ultimate truthy thing. It's the ultimate nerd thing. Only thing its missing is a sign saying "Repent! The Singularity is Nye!" with the Science guy himself staring everyone down like Uncle Sam.
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Speaking from personal experience?
Unless its Glenn Beck. I don't think anyone who isn't "one of them" can stand that crap for more than 5 minutes, if that.
Stop being an elitist, insulting curmudgeon, learn how to sign in to Slashdot, and your check will arrive in 4-6 weeks. See? Was that so hard?
Well, Beck got a bunch of Medicare recipients to stand around in the sun complaining about THE EVILS of government healthcare, so anything's possible...
...but what you can do for your country TO GET RID OF GLENN BECK. I'm pretty sure that's how it goes.
I wasn't interested in this at all, until I read that it was a young woman who made the post to Reddit. Now I'm definitely interested. Does anyone know what she looks like? I mean, being a woman implies she's old enough, and young is certainly promising, but you never know. Before I get involved in something like this, I definitely want to know what she looks like. I've been burned on more than one blind date and Internet romance. Also, of course, is she married? Is she dating anyone? How seriously? Is he socially conscious? Because I am, and that's usually my hook, because I'm not really like a jock or anything, but some girls are into that. Also, we both like Colbert, so that's something in common too. Anyway, if anyone gets her email address or some pics, please send them to me, because this seems like a really cool idea from a young woman.
Wow, you mean some smug Internet denizen came up with a way to launch a "hilarious" yet substance-free attack on a group she and all her cool friends just "know" is silly? What stunning news! Strawman used by baselessly smug group of left wingers against group of right wingers!
What next, are we going to have a story about a group of right wingers painting left wingers as Anti-American and playing the Outrage Card to rouse the rabble?
A pox on both their houses.
Doesn't it get boring after a while, reveling in how clever you and your Internet buddies who have developed some lame shared-language of goofball Internet memes are?
Oh, wait...
Oh, no, there are all kinds of Glenn Beck fans. For instance, there is the crazy wing: libertarian crazies, religious crazies, racist crazies. Then there is the retard wing, home-schooled retards, closeted retards, old senile retards. We also have the diabolically evil faction, Wall Street evil, coal mining evil, big oil evil, the military industrial evil complex.
Glen Beck's popularity spans all sorts of crazy, retarded and evil.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
If Colbert did this, it would be an amazing speech. I would love to be there for it. If you haven't seen it yet, see his speech he gave to and about George Bush. It is on YouTube.
I was gonna celebrate the answer to the ultimate question of Life, the Universe and Everything on 10/10/10.
Yeah, it's hilarious to hear a Tea Bagger proclaiming that the government should "keep their hands off my Medicare".
The race profiteer Al Sharpton led a small group to protest the "hijacking" of MLK's memory.
... throw an anti-tea party rally. To be fair, you'd have to have your platform be the opposite of the tea party platform. So I guess the RT rally would be for a non-balanced budget, pro-emissions trade, pro-more complex tax system, anti-auditing the Federal Government, pro-escalating federal budgets, pro-earmarks, pro-tax increases.
Sounds like we already have all that. So you are rallying for the status quo.
Good Job you socially progress folks.
You mock yourselves.
Watching US politics & medias is so good. It make us feel (with "us", as in, "the rest of the world") like we have competent politicians and trusthworthy reporters.
And that come from someone living in France. And we have Nicolas "Send those Tsigane in Bulgaria" Sarkozy.
I mean...
From an external point of view, taking Glen Beck (and most of Fox News) seriously is quite nonsensical.
Seeing him having such a popular support...
Oh well. At least, it does provide some kind of bleak amusement to the rest of the world (oh, that, and the fundamentalist christians, too). Let's just hope that's one thing that Europe won't adopt in the next decade, as we like to do with whatever stupid stuff you imagine.
To think that ANY political ideology, no matter where it sits on the spectrum of political thought, provides an optimum framework for solving the world's or nation's problems is the sign of a very small mind.
In order to understand the difference between the term "truth" and Colbert's made-up word "truthiness", you'd have to, you know, actually watch the show at least once.
Colbert is a comedian who openly uses lies and manipulative humor to get laughs among his followers. He mocks everything in sight, with a double helping reserved for himself. He's in the business of entertainment, not news. He's a complete attention whore because that's what pays the bills.
I don't know the term for the opposite of "comedian", "tragedean", maybe? Whatever the term would be, that's Beck. He openly uses lies and manipulative tragedy to get outrage among his followers. He derides everything in sight, with a double helping reserved for anyone who he thinks his followers might agree with him on. He's in the business of entertainment, not news. He's a complete attention whore because that's what pays the bills.
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Let's not forget the businesses that just appear to randomly have the TV on Fox News 24/7.
If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
One of the most critical skills in satire are knowing where the boundaries are. Exceed the boundaries and you go from respected to despised.
Colbert's genius is that even those who he is mocking can go along with joke, perhaps ignoring or not understanding that they are being mocked.
To pretend to be organizing such a rally is funny, but to actually hold such a rally is ridiculing the rally participants too directly. The offense would be impossible to ignore, and that's not Colbert's style.
While you could be correct about your stereotype, speaking for myself, attending such a rally would only be a bonus added onto other interests. I've long wanted to visit Washington DC to see the Smithsonian and the other museums there (is that nerdy enough for you?). Plus I'm a "foreigner", so maybe that would count against me, but I am fully supportive of freedom and liberty. I celebrate Bastille Day even though I'm not French or in France, so why not an issue as important as "Restoring Truthiness" in the US of A?
And FYI, I've got dependents living in *my* basement, so get off my sun-drenched, horribly-maintained lawn! You're crushing the dandelions.
Beck was a morning radio dj for years, I think his biggest non-political gig was at WPGC in Wash. DC where he was a morning drive "Zoo Keeper". He spun records and yucked it up with callers. Anyone who knows anything about radio knows that djs are mostly f*ed in the head and have lots of problems. Beck is not unique to this, although he does appear to have turned his life around, although I don't get why he turned from Catholicism to Mormonism. That's like going from Communism to Radical Islam. But seriously, lets not take Beck too seriously. He was a loser dj who pulled a Limbaugh and found success in being a political pundit. He's not a big deal. Some think he is, but he's not. Screw him. Better yet, ignore him.
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The very complexity of the world means that you need organizing principles (that is, ideologies) to help make sense of it. To believe in one's ideology too completely, and to never questions one's ideologies, are serious mistakes. On the other hand, to be a complete political pragmatist without ideology to give structure to this complex world is likely unworkable.
Glenn Beck is not religious. He's a money machine. He knows how to make money. Right now that's by appealing to the "religious right" in America.
Ya but when you take all that away, what do you get?
Canada :)
that's the same combination as my luggage!
Oh, Canada! We stand on cars and freeze.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
"This is my sign. There are many like but this one is mine."
"Free ice cream and puppies! See the man in the van."
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"Available for on-camera interviews"
Good point. Colbert fans don't have a billionaire Obama-hating family to bus them out to the event like Glenn Beck does.
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Why is this liberal garbage on SlashDot? I didn't see anything on Beck on here and pray it wasn't because it should be here either. Please ppl, stop the ignorance.
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The reason it was so clean afterward is there were only 50,000 people there.
There were a lot more than that.
Let's compare crowd estimates from the Colbert rally using similar pictures, shall we?
And instead of simply posting a derogatory reply for appearing to support the rally, you could instead argue against the calculation to come by the range of estimates (low end was 90k).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
But seriously, lets not take Beck too seriously.
It's not him you should be worried about. It's his racist, bigoted, narrow-minded, insane followers you should be worried about.
You know, the people who think Obama is both a radical Christian (reverend Wright!!!!) and a radical Muslim. The people who believe all Muslims are terrorists, and who are now setting fires to mosques, or protesting their construction (apparently human rights are only for Good Christians (tm)). The people who believe that the US is now, somehow, descending into hell, and the only solution is to return to some fictitious past that never existed, when men were men, women were women, and everyone feared god and were good and honest and never did anything wrong, ever ever ever, until those damned socialist hippies came in and ruined it all.
Frankly, I'm waiting for the first domestic terrorist attack on a mosque... that should make for an interesting debate, in which I'm sure the radical right-wing hypocrisy will reach levels as yet unseen.
Stop it. It isn't flamebait. I may be a liberal and Wyatt may be conservative, but even I can tell he's not here to incite flames.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
Stand on cars...
wtf? I must be missing something...
I don't know the term for the opposite of "comedian", "tragedean", maybe? Whatever the term would be, that's Beck. He openly uses lies and manipulative tragedy to get outrage among his followers. He derides everything in sight, with a double helping reserved for anyone who he thinks his followers might agree with him on.
I believe the term you're looking for is "demagogue":
What a great description in that 2nd paragraph
You forgot the Libertarians who want to return us to a period of politcs between 1790-1890.
Tsukasa: All I really want, is to be left alone...
... is never absurd.
The "genius" of the "elites" usually is.
For those US citizens who don't get the genius reference: It's our Constitution. See Federalist Papers, for starters.
I would define Colbert's "truthiness" as true or wise in a philosphical sense, independent of whether the facts actually support it or whether it has anything to do with facts at all.
Thus a statement can be manifestly false, and yet contain considerable truthiness. Its veracity transcends reality.
I don't know, it's something I heard Lady Mondegreen sing once.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
I miss the old days when somebody could be wrong without being crazy, retarded or evil.
You people love to bring up Rush Limbaugh's drug problem, yet never mention that your hero Obama was pretty much drug addled in his younger years.
Tragedian. The internets agree... Although demagogue or fearmonger or "Certifiable" come to mind too...
I do too, I really do.
But I don't deal well with willful stupidity. Ignorance can be forgiven. Sticking you head in the sand not so much. Not by me anyways.
According to the metro numbers, there were 180,000 extra people on the subway compared with other August Saturdays. That's just the subways. Scientific sounding numbers are fine, but hard numbers rule. Giving any number under 180k is laughable.
This would be a great topic for Al Jazeera, but why is it on Slashdot?
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Your comment is in line with "elect Republicans and they will take your Social Security away" or "Elect Democrats and they will raise taxes"
Even if somehow one party managed to control two thirds of both houses and the white house the courts would still be there as well as the court of public opinion. Even while Democrats had a majority in both houses they rarely got anything done. When they did they resorted to parliamentarian tricks and deception. Hell we saw bill after bill passed without Congressmen knowing what was in it and somehow this is better than what might come later?
If anything government is dysfunctional and they have made it so that the rules protect them in their rule. The tea party that many associate negative connotations with is that part which was absconded with by people looking to make money and increase their power base. As was seen in Alaska, the real tea party does not obey the Republican party and does not cede to the Democrats either. It is still up in the open what they may become but if all we have are people spouting FUD what we will have? Simple, the same crap we have now where both parties play people off each other so that THEY can stay in power. So while they cheer your inane comments, put there by endless talking heads on each side, nothing changes and that is the best solution they could hope for.
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
"I'm waiting for the first domestic terrorist attack on a mosque..."
This is supposed to be like some kind of new thing to be worried about? Something that Beck is bringing in fresh and new? Lets not forget that Lee Harvey Oswald was a raving lunatic LEFTIST, and more recently we have the nut job who took down 32 students at Virginia Tech a few years ago, John Malvo & John Allen Muhammad, the beltway sniper duo, McVeigh & Nicols... so all these are to be blamed on Beck too? Its now like you take Beck out and all these problems are solved. So stop talking nonsense.
Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
What exactly has Beck said that is incorrect or false lately? Examples please..... just curious.
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I wonder why people use the term journalist to describe employees of broadcast networks who wouldn't know a journal from a urinal.
I was so hoping that cloning would have led to an updated version of Walter Cronkite by now...
But I'll give Beck one thing though, he's been able to sculpt a persona from scratch, using whatever he had access to along the way. I mean, he's a a guy who struggled to better himself, who worked with what he had. He started as a rodeo clown where he had to roll in it. He adopted a religion that was full of it. And he learned to sling it like he was doing battle with Goliath.
Lets not forget that Lee Harvey Oswald was a raving lunatic LEFTIST
What does left or right have to do with anything? If the left was drumming up support for protesting the construction of Christian churches, I'd be disgusted and worried about that, too. Wouldn't you?
more recently we have the nut job who took down 32 students at Virginia Tech a few years ago, John Malvo & John Allen Muhammad, the beltway sniper duo, McVeigh & Nicols
I think you and I both know those weren't populist movements. Those were crazed individuals, which is hardly the same thing as an organized protest against a religion, like we're seeing in NYC.
so all these are to be blamed on Beck too?
Should I blame your raving idiocy on this strawman I'm waving about? Shall I beat it with this stick I have, now?? How 'bout I knock it down! Yeah, serves you right!
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Then there's also the liberals who watch Beck to laugh at him or find out what the other side thinks... ...then backs away slowly and weeps for the state of our country.
I sometimes ask revealing, often ignorant-seeming questions. Maybe they're harder to answer than you think.
I just can't shake the image from my imagination that Beck is doing the same thing as Colbert, just taking it to an even greater extreme where he is doing his parody from inside the political movement he's parodying and playing it so straight that nobody gets it, seeing just how far he can push the gag before people catch on.
and only a handful get it.
Hmmmmm.
I do listen to talk radio and have listened to Beck however I don't intentionally tune to him. While I believe him to be a bit "whack-a-doo", not unlike many devout entertainers, all of the stories I've heard from him begin in political reality. Whether you choose to see it as a reality is what divides left from right. The "Tea Party" folks aren't all nut-job racists; a great majority are those, normally quiet, people that work hard, save money, plan retirement, invest, start businesses, and hire employees without depending on the government to save them. When that government, aided by a vocal majority of largess leeches, aims at their pocket books they have every right to get mad and gather, protest, vote, veto, etc.
Having been visiting /. for over 15 years I'm shocked at the amount of, what appears to be, left wingers here. It's never really come up but am I in the conservative minority on Slashdot? Younger people are typically left-wing. As you get older, and if you're responsible, you'll begin swinging right... unless you're a career politician...
Pajamas Media? Really?
So since you disagree but don't say why, are you telling us all you are too stupid to refute the calculations made?
They seemed pretty simple to me, and based on numbers generally accepted for crowd size analysis. Perhaps if you study them harder the reason why you disagree will come to you.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The key difference between Colbert and Beck, according to parent, is that when Colbert is over you chuckle and turn off the TV, but when Beck is over you go out and vote. Colbert is arguably more transparent about being a manipulative attention whore, because to get people to laugh they have to get the joke.
I sometimes ask revealing, often ignorant-seeming questions. Maybe they're harder to answer than you think.
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- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
To be fair to both parties, you have to mention that GW Bush was arrested for drunk driving in 1976. He even admitted to "drinking too much" before he quit. So you could say that GW was alcohol addled in his younger years.
But GW Bush decided to stop drinking after his fortieth birthday. I commend him for that.
Obama, it appears, used drugs in high school and college but also gave them up. You have to commend Obama for that AND the fact that he admitted to drug use.
I suspect that you could add lots of public figures to this list, those that, in their early years, abused drugs and/or alcohol. That seems to be a common thing in some circles.
Rush, unfortunately, should have been old enough to know better. The only 'saving' grace is the fact that people in pain will often do stupid things to push back that pain. It would be nice if Rush were a bit more vocal about the stupidity of prescription drug abuse AND if the media reported said activity.
Almost any public figure who abuses drugs will have their abuse mentioned, whether said abuse happened during their youth or in recent years. It appears to be one of those things that people do, especially when their 'hero' is criticized by the other side.
Sure, not a terrorist attack, but sometimes all you need is spark of stupidity to set off something nasty....
The actual war in Vietnam was fought to a military standstill which resulted in the Paris accords (look it up). The North agreed because it did not see winning the the war even with Soviet support, and opted for a Korean variant of having half a country for its Communist slavery (I am from the USSR, and I know what GULAG is - you apparently don't).
After that, due to useful idiots in the US and much Soviet-paid "international" activities, the US cut its military aid for South Vietnam, and the Congress passed a law banning US troops deployment in Vietnam _whatever happens_. The Soviets ramped up their aid, and soon South Vietnam lost. Mass executions, death camps, and GULAG followed -- and their history has not yet been written, Vietnam being still controlled by the same party that organized them, so go figure what the murder count is and how much of it is being blamed on the US (standard Soviet tactic -- having executed 40K captured Poles at Katyn, Bolsheviks blamed it on the Nazis).
Vietnam is a brutal dictatorship. There is no "capitalism" or "free market" there, what they have is a Nazi-like economy where the exploiting class is allowed a "capitalist" lifestyle as long as they suit the state; the moment they don't, they are stripped of "their" wealth and freedom. The low price of labor is guaranteed by machine guns; average folks have no rights.
Please be aware that some people who have seen "socialism" first hand also read /., and refrain from repeating the party line.
I'm sorry that your education system has failed so many of you so miserably.
I'm sure that someday most of you will gain enough real-world experience to understand why 0bama is a disaster and folks like Glenn Beck have to raise the alarm. In the meantime, I think we'll be OK given the way things are going into November. :-)
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Oh, no, there are all kinds of Glenn Beck fans. For instance, there is the crazy wing: libertarian crazies, religious crazies, racist crazies. Then there is the retard wing, home-schooled retards, closeted retards, old senile retards. We also have the diabolically evil faction, Wall Street evil, coal mining evil, big oil evil, the military industrial evil complex. Glen Beck's popularity spans all sorts of crazy, retarded and evil.
Then there's also the liberals who watch Beck
Apparently combos of crazy, retarded, and evil too!
Bear.
Costume.
That's scary... it would take some special kind of crazy for that to be true.
Hmmm, what substance gives people delusions of grandeur and eliminates all doubt, even when it's warranted?
Glenn Beck has admitted hundreds of thousands of dollars of cocaine use.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpVi6JwjjGU
And "excessive or prolonged use, the drug can cause [...] paranoid delusions" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine
And even his own official web site says he was "consumed by alcoholism and drug addiction" in at least one era of his life. (ref: http://www.glennbeck.com/content/program/about/)
Good point. Colbert fans don't have a billionaire Obama-hating family to bus them out to the event like Glenn Beck does.
When the Obama campaign opens the books on all the Democratic sponsors, like the one he allowed to shut down Los Angeles a week back, I'm sure you'll eat enough crow concerning what people are sponsoring what party members.
These are the two most disgusting people that I've ever seen, right up there with the jewish Illuminist-created KKK. Martin Luther King led his protest when the ghettos back in Jew Jersey were forcing black-Americans to pay rent ~ $75 per-head while all other races were allowed to pay-rent for the entire chamber regardless of head-count. Something about that matter reflected prejudices by landlords that their property was damaged more by black-Americans than anyone else, and I don't know if it was meant as a cultural damage of having them in the area or the fact that they seriously damaged the verry building structure. Martin Luther King led an aggrivated mob of racists that looted and burnt buildings as they marched to political centers for speaching rights, then they led the movement to avert my Civil Rights by supplementing their civil rights to handicap over my Civil Rights. There is a difference, and the more you help someone be more "civil" is only a fact that their legislated handicap of compelled domestication will ruin them while intimidating the competition around them. Then there is the fact that Martin Luther King stole his Thesis from a jewish professor at a University, that he gained political and funding assisting from known Communist infiltraitors, and he raped three white women the night before that CREATURE known as Martin Luther so-called King was shot dead.
Then you have Al Sharpton: a man the openly associates with another man Kamau Kambon that calls for the open KILLING and RAPE and THEFT against ALL "Whites" claiming they are mutants of African culture kicked out of Africa into Europe and spreading to America. Of'course he moves politic outside of the light of the Media, because it would show him for what he is.
It wasn't a tea party rally, it was a "Restoring Honor" rally...
To hold an "anti-Restoring Honor" rally is just plain stupid...what? we WANT to be dishonorable?
I'd be surprised if Colbert or anyone else could get more than Beck...just look at the last "icon" to have a rally there in D.C., what was it, back 2 years ago, the inauguration? Not even the charismatic leader of "hope" and "change" could draw more than 200,000 people.
Face it, people are fed up with the direction things are going. Colbert, if he is serious, would only make it worse, or prove the point.
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Is Obama a Muslim? Highly unlikely, although there are doubtless Muslims who regard him as something like one due to his paternal line.
Is he a radical Christian? Most certainly not. Wright is a racist, narrow-minded bigot (probably not insane, but then, neither are those who listen to Beck) and doesn't strike me as being terribly Christian. Obama himself doesn't really seem like one, either; I think he just plays a Christian on TV.
If you think the left hasn't seriously screwed things up here, you just aren't old enough to know just how much better it used to be.
What's wrong with that? The days of the framing of the Constitution were certainly far freer than now. If those people were around today, they would not recognize this nation.
I am inclined to believe his as well, but they do not do crowd estimation any more often than the guy I did the link to (the link states they do this infrequently) - of course, they had higher resolution photos.
But it would have been nice to see the density estimates he used within the grids. The other guy basically used a grid technique as well, to separate out more sparse areas from the more packed ones. So it's a question of the numbers you use, per grid.
Given the subway use increase the other poster reported, half the number of additional subway riders still seems too low.
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I've long wanted to visit Washington DC to see the Smithsonian and the other museums there (is that nerdy enough for you?)./quote?
Almost!
Allow two full days to see the Smithsonian and related museums along the Mall. Less if you don't like art. Being a Slashdotter, you'll probably want to start with the Air & Space thing, to make sure you have enough time for it.
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You mean the real one? That I had to sing in school? Yeah, I got that, I've just never heard that lyric replacement before.
I dunno if spun was aiming for the Funny mod, but had my mod points not expired, I would have modded him insightful.
StarTrekPhase2 - The Five Year Mission Continues!
So far I and my employer have paid just over $57,000 in to Medicare, and I estimate about another $60,000 will be paid in on my behalf before I reach retirement age. That is $117,000 taken from me by the government as payment in advance for providing me with Medicare services when I reach retirement age.
Ignoring the time value of the money that was paid in by me and on my behalf over my entire working lifetime (i.e., interest it should have earned), if that money was paid out on my behalf every month starting when I reach retirement age, it would fund a health insurance plan at $300/month for 32 years.
So, in some sense, it would be "my Medicare" that was being manipulated, wouldn't it?
Artists can use lies to point out the truth - fallacies can be used to make indirect points just as fictional stories can represent truths and the bible can be allegorical but can be "true".... (Which directly ties into another related issue-- the people who take the whole bible literally...)
Colbert routinely makes silly arguments which are the same or analogous to the ones he is parodying. Many of the fallacies he uses are the SAME and he uses the COMMON method of illustrating false reasoning with crazy examples. Satire uses such methods ALL THE TIME. Another method is reductio ad absurdum, which is more difficult to use seriously because argumentative people can nit pick the whole path - a formal one is more like a legal contract and is not funny. Anyhow, many times I've seen him use the SAME words with the variables swapped out as the people he is parodying - yet some people attack him for doing what he is attacking others for doing using satire! He illustrates hypocrisy all the time; unfortunately, he may be making it more acceptable in the way he does it. (Just like Archie Bunker made racists more likable.)
Some people think it is a sad sign that Colbert can be viewed as REAL by so many people.
This is a result of those viewers poor judgment and today's sick political climate. Irony, logical fallacies, reductio ad absurdum, and other satirical methods that intentionally go to extremes of analogy for humor and effectiveness end up MIRRORING the crazy extremists who seriously take positions too close to the satire!! I can't recall any right now but there were a few times with Colbert was ahead of the right wing fringe!
Democracy Now! - uncensored, anti-establishment news
It's an amusing idea, but of course Beck has the full weight of Fox behind him.
One of the most insightful bits on The Daily Show was one in which Stewart pointed out that Gretchen Carlson, who poses as an "ordinary," unsophisticated and uneducated person, was a Stanford honors graduate and did work at Oxford:
Gretchen Carlson Dumbs Down
Fox consistently broadcasts falsehoods, absurdities, and stupidity. It isn't because Fox is staffed by idiots. They are consciously and cynically manipulating people towards political ends that benefit the owners of Fox and News Corp, not the people they are manipulating. Fox holds its audience in contempt.
Jesus and Moses went fishing in the Red Sea.
Once their boat was well beyond the horizon, Jesus said "You know, I miss the miraculous old days, fire in the sky, loaves and fishes, healing the sick. Things just aren't the same anymore"
Moses replied "I know what you mean. People don't appreciate the miracles we used to do."
Jesus said "My favorite one was when you parted the Red Sea - I'd love to see that again just for old times sake"
"Really?" Moses replied?
"Absolutely - C'mon, please?"
Moses stood in the boat and raised his arms. The sea before them parted for as far as the eye could see. When he lowered them, the sea returned into the gap.
"Amazing!" Jesus cried. "Just... amazing!"
"Well, you were pretty good back in the day too" replied Moses. "My favorite was when you wowed them by walking on water. I'd love to see that again, just for old times sake..."
"Really?" said Jesus.
"Yes, please, it would mean a lot" replied Moses.
Jesus gingerly stepped to the edge of the boat and placed his right foot upon the water. He stepped forward, and immediately plunged to the bottom of the Red Sea.
Moses quickly reached in and pulled him back into the boat.
"I know I can do it - I know I can" said Jesus. "Let me try again."
Once again Jesus stepped to the boat's edge and then onto the water, and once again he sank to the bottom of the Red Sea.
Moses pulled him out again. Sputtering water, Jesus exclaimed "I don't understand! I used to be able to pull that one off without a hitch. I just don't get it..."
Moses replied "I think the last time you did that, you didn't have those holes in your feet...."
Ask Me About... The 80's!
I don't know why it should seem low, I'm not sure how many people you would expect to show up at a rally by Glenn Beck.
And another angle just occurred to me as well, the fact that is show is very popular. I'd have nothing to do with anyone from Jersey Shore. but they could easily draw that kind of crowd.
Thinking that what you like or dislike is the same as what everyone likes or dislikes is the path to self-delusion.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
very useful for organizing my collection of concert bootlegs...er, school documents (well, those too)
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
I was quite willing to have fun in the sun all day for the Lollapalooza music festival; I might have felt the same about a Colbert stunt.
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
Modded +5 too, bitch. You are the minority. Yes, it is fun slapping down fascists like you and Beck. I don't hate you or Beck. I hate what you do and what you stand for: the complete subjugation of the human spirit and the elevation of the sociopathic class to the highest positions of power. But you will lose and freedom will win, humans are not the dumb sheep you seem to think they are.