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McDonald's Germany Moves to SuSE Linux

sglafata writes "Novell has made an announcement that McDonald's is moving towards Linux. 'With more than 30,000 restaurants around the globe and more than 1,200 in Germany alone, McDonald's is the undisputed market leader in the fast food sector.'"

471 comments

  1. soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    so, are they going to start serving penguinburgers?

    1. Re:soo... by tokachu(k) · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think you mean "lizardburgers", as it's SuSE. In that case, it starts today.

      In other news, will SCO be suing them later for either health problems or copyright infringment?

    2. Re:soo... by NickeB · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      "I'll have a MacTux please"?

      I wonder why they didn't stick to Windows... a company that profits on bloating people should use a bloated OS...

    3. Re:soo... by Lshmael · · Score: 4, Funny

      I assume you missed "Is the Linux Desktop Getting Heavier and Slower?" from yesterday.

    4. Re:soo... by Deltan · · Score: 3, Funny

      How do you know the meat the serve already isn't penguin?

    5. Re:soo... by myom · · Score: 1

      I think they should make a Happy Meal for geeks where they include a Suse CD, or Knoppix in a penguin shaped cardboard box, with the burger and fries in it. Oh, and a license agreement from SCO.

    6. Re:soo... by Syzar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Stick?!? In USA atleat they use SCO Unix. That's according to this.

    7. Re:soo... by ComaVN · · Score: 4, Funny

      How do you know it's meat?

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    8. Re:soo... by Blue+Eagle+26 · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Replace that License agreement with a game demo cd and I would actualy BUY one...

    9. Re:soo... by Syzar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They should also include Geeko and/or Tux toys in Happy Meals.

    10. Re:soo... by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's a chameleon called Geeko.

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    11. Re:soo... by frs_rbl · · Score: 5, Funny
      From SCO's site (no link to increase their page rank) Think they're going to sue one of their own clients for copyright infringement? ;-) Sour pill to swallow...

      Case Study: McDonald's

      "The everyday business of a McDonald's restaurant requires a stable operating system that can give round-the-clock performance," said John Doty, Director of US Information Technology for McDonald's Corporation's Store Systems. "We are very pleased with the performance of SCO UNIX®. SCO's platform has provided us with a very stable and reliable system. SCO UNIX® has been a dependable platform for thousands of McDonald's restaurants over the past 10 years and we're looking forward to migrating our restaurants to the current version."

      McDonald's Serves It Up with SCO UNIX® World's Largest Restaurant Food Chain Planning Migration to Latest SCO UNIX® Platform in Over 4,000 Stores; SCO OS Increases Networking Capabilities and Reduces Costs

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    12. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is that penguinburger with the sauce?

    13. Re:soo... by hdparm · · Score: 1
      Well, I don't know. What I know thou, is that I'm set if anything unexpected happens with my present job. I'm moving to Frankfurt - surely I'll get job over there.

      Hey, everybody can say "Would you like fries with that?" I can too but I am also RHCE and know Yast manual backwords.

    14. Re:soo... by perly-king-69 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Because a multi-national corporation is hardly likely to lie to us now, is it. Oh, hold on...

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    15. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, Penguin McNuggets(tm)

    16. Re:soo... by tomknight · · Score: 1
      Why Knoppix? The SuSE Live CD would do the job pretty well...

      Tom.

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    17. Re:soo... by Errtu76 · · Score: 1

      so now they can put the money they save into the burgers and make them look less transparent?

    18. Re:soo... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's funny, 'cause before the McDonalds down the street from where I worked turned off the order-confirmation screen a few months ago, it'd been showing a Windows GPF error for several weeks...

      Requires stability. Indeed.

      I told them to power the machine off and back on, and they said they'd tried that. They were still waiting for someone from McD's IT department to come down and fix the box.

    19. Re:soo... by transient · · Score: 4, Funny
      True story:

      I had a teacher in high school who was really, really allergic to beef. When I say "allergic" I'm talking about a trip to the hospital, all kinds of drugs, and he'd still be vomiting for hours. One day, this teacher had a hamburger at McDonald's.

      Nothing happened to him.

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    20. Re:soo... by quadrocerebra · · Score: 1

      because it's not free...

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    21. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Super SUSE me !

    22. Re:soo... by cerberus1949 · · Score: 1

      It might improve their product line if they did [no offence to penguins everywhere]. From a corporate perspective I suspect they'd try about anything that might return them to their former profitability.

    23. Re:soo... by Marc+Desrochers · · Score: 1

      Meat?

    24. Re:soo... by hardcode57 · · Score: 1

      I'll have a Big Tux to go!

    25. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Penquins are scare and expensive -- pounds are filled with unwanted dogs and cats. You figure it out.

    26. Re:soo... by Bohnanza · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So he ordered a hamburger with full knowledge of his beef allergy? Sure, he did... Anyway, As McD's always points out, with the low prices at which they buy beef, anything else would be more expensive. Think about it - how much would it cost to ship roadkill kangaroos from australia?

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    27. Re:soo... by daveashcroft · · Score: 0

      Perhaps the computers will run smoother, but it wont stop the MacFuckWit behind the drive-thru counter from handing me the wrong stuff, only for me to discover it when im 5 miles away.

      Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    28. Re:soo... by Nexx · · Score: 2, Funny

      I mean, I swear to god this has happened to a person I know!! Or something :)

    29. Re:soo... by kaiidth · · Score: 5, Informative

      I know you're not serious but you should know that Germany is experiencing what is most kindly referred to as a tech slowdown, and more honestly referred to as: Today, there are nearly four hundred long-term unemployed, well qualified (Masters' degrees or more) tech specialists looking for a job in my (small) city alone. And my city is peanuts compared to Frankfurt. It's tiny.

      So don't try this at home, at least unless you have two degrees and preferably a PhD as well as being mother-tongue bilingual in German and English, and maybe in another language too, have kept German-style Letters Of Reference throughout your professional career and you have friends in reasonably high places or are naturally lucky. In a year or so it should be safe to try again (goes my optimistic viewpoint), but in the meantime there are better places to be, like just about anywhere else, except for on LinuxTag of course.

      The German tech scene has been in trouble for a while now, probably ever since CeBIT ceased being anything but an intrabusiness marketing forum. As with everywhere, the year 2000 was a fun time here, but this spring's CeBIT was just depressing. New and cool stuff is mostly coming from elsewhere - German industry has done what the tech industry does at times like this, which is to dump R&D and fall back on selling management 'skills'. Curled up like a stunned hedgehog, in other words, and never mind the obvious prick jokes.

    30. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      To really give this story a ring of truth, you need to add a bit about how a high school teacher would be stupid enough to eat a hamburger, knowing his violent allergy to beef. What, he just tried it because he thought there wasn't beef in a McDonald's hamburger? Weak!

      I go along with the funny mod, but you need to fill a major plot hole to meet Slashdot's high standards.

      (Yes, that last bit was intended to be funny.)

    31. Re:soo... by wellard1981 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course nothing would have happened to him.. he ordered a HAMburger, not a BEEFburger.

      However, there is very little evidence that McDonnalds burgers contain any soft meat at all, so after all, your story could be accurate.

    32. Re:soo... by asr_man · · Score: 4, Funny

      SCO's lovin' it!

    33. Re:soo... by IdleTime · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I'm lovin' it!

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    34. Re:soo... by hendridm · · Score: 1
      I think you mean "lizardburgers", as it's SuSE. In that case, it starts today.

      I thought that was released as the McRib?

    35. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you know the meat the serve already isn't penguin?

      The same reason we know it isn't worms. Worms cost more per pound than beef. I imagine penguins don't come cheap, either.

    36. Re:soo... by bigboard · · Score: 3, Funny

      how much would it cost to ship roadkill kangaroos from australia?

      African or European kangaroos?

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    37. Re:soo... by gmack · · Score: 1

      Must be all that fast food it's eating.

    38. Re:soo... by Qamelian · · Score: 2, Funny

      No mystery...it was probably a phys. ed. teacher.

    39. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      McDs in Australia uses 100% Australian beef and they even proudly advertise it on the environmentally unfriendly wrapper.

    40. Re:soo... by I_M_Noman · · Score: 3, Interesting
      much would it cost to ship roadkill kangaroos from australia?
      My first job was at Jack in the Box. That summer they were bought out by an Aussie parent company. Later on it was determined that their burgers did indeed have 'roo meat in them.
    41. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      laden or unladen?

    42. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Think about it - how much would it cost to ship roadkill kangaroos from australia?


      Why bother shipping when Mexicans come across the border for free.

    43. Re:soo... by operagost · · Score: 1
      That's because they were actually human kidneys, stolen from unwitting barhoppers.

      Hey man - don't blame me if you wake up in a tub of ice in some fleabag hotel in New Orleans!

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    44. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's because it's mostly fecal matter. ever read fast food nation?

    45. Re:soo... by 0utRun · · Score: 2, Funny

      How would that differ from what they currently call "hamburgers" ?

    46. Re:soo... by operagost · · Score: 0, Troll

      Who the hell modded this as insightful? I think it's supposed to be funny, dude. Or troll, based on the last line.

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    47. Re:soo... by olderchurch · · Score: 1

      If you're moving to Frankfurt/Germany i would suggest you practice your German first. "Would you like fries with that?" would translate into something like "Wurde sie pommes mit dem?" (Hey my German is a bit rusty, so please correct me if I'm wrong).

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    48. Re:soo... by wass · · Score: 1

      Well, what chemical in the beef was he allergic to? Chances are all the processing mcdonalds does could have denatured said chemical.

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    49. Re:soo... by WormholeFiend · · Score: 3, Interesting

      when I was living in my hometown as a poor pre-college student, it was common knowledge that McDonalds hamburgers were a great cure for diarrhea.

      Insta-Constipation!

      Also, it was common practice to go eat a full meal at McD after an night of hard drinking, to avoid being sick.

      We conjectured that they probably put anti-diarrhea and antivomiting drugs in their food so that in case of food poisoning, no one would be the wiser.

    50. Re:soo... by tilleyrw · · Score: 1

      My german language skills are not much above carrying on light conversation with the hookers in Munich, but I would say:

      Wurde Sie mögen Pommes-Frites mit dem?

      Hint: Google translator

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    51. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, but I'm a native kraut and it should rather translate to:

      "Moechten Sie Pommes dazu?"

    52. Re:soo... by mwood · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Oh, my, that's getting into "isn't even wrong" territory. Let's see: verb and subject don't agree; in polite conversation you *never* ask someone whether he desires something without using the subjunctive; "wurden" throws the sentence into the subjunctive mood anyway; "mit dem" *what*?; and isn't "pommes frites" French?

    53. Re:soo... by vladkrupin · · Score: 1

      Think about it - how much would it cost to ship roadkill kangaroos from australia?

      Why australia? I think they pick something more local. For instance, I remember seeing a lot of stray cats on our street a couple of years back. Then the McDonalds came... Good for profit margins, good for community - a win-win situation!

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    54. Re:soo... by Bull999999 · · Score: 1

      I don't think that anyone truely knows what goes into McRib.

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    55. Re:soo... by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2, Informative

      Since the parent post was modded "interesting" instead of "funny," here's the snopes.com page...

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    56. Re:soo... by at_kernel_99 · · Score: 1

      Ever had roo meat? It ain't bad. Seriously. Grilled some up at Ayer's rock a couple years back. The trick is to not overcook it - rare is good, well-done is tougher than an old boot.

    57. Re:soo... by cshark · · Score: 1

      It sure beats the SCO burgers they've been serving up until now. Man, that's got the a a blow for dear old Darl.

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    58. Re:soo... by AJWM · · Score: 1

      Nothing wrong with 'roo meat, mate.

      It tastes a bit like elk, as a matter of fact. Kind of a waste to grind it up into a burger, though.

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    59. Re:soo... by FoosYou · · Score: 1

      I think you can only find penguinburgers here: Tux's favorite fast food!

    60. Re:soo... by gcaseye6677 · · Score: 1

      Maybe he thought he would get rich from a lawsuit. Hey why not, McDonalds has been sued by so many other people.

    61. Re:soo... by Mikkeles · · Score: 1
      '...and isn't "pommes frites" French?'

      Yes, and it means 'fried apples'.

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    62. Re:soo... by GTRacer · · Score: 2, Funny
      But we can safely say there are no ribs!

      GTRacer
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    63. Re:soo... by ncc74656 · · Score: 1
      '...and isn't "pommes frites" [f]rench?'

      Yes, and it means 'fried apples'.

      Fried potatoes, actually ("potato" in french is "pomme de terre.") Context is everything...I thought we all learned long ago that machine translation is far from perfect.

      More useless trivia: "french fries" aren't french. They're Belgian. Because they came from the french-speaking part of Belgium, they ended up getting stuck with a french name.

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    64. Re:soo... by cdemon6 · · Score: 1

      Hmm, compare the beef used by McDonalds with the beef used by Burger King and you'll see McD uses crap (at least in Germany it's a *huge* difference). Also, I remember this story once happened in the USA:

      A woman sued McDonald because she got I'll after eating a Fishmac. McDonald could proof that the Burger didn't contain any fish at all, so she didn't get a dollar from court...

    65. Re:soo... by MysticalMatt517 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Think they're going to sue one of their own clients for copyright infringement?

      Never stopped the RIAA...

    66. Re:soo... by howlingmad · · Score: 1

      Germany is paralysed by German Angst. We are down because we feel down. That's the problem.

      But i agree with you on dumping R&D and selling management 'skills'. But then, who wants to be an engineer today?

      Markus (wishing he was a lawyer)

    67. Re:soo... by I_M_Noman · · Score: 1
      Since the parent post was modded "interesting" instead of "funny," here's the snopes.com page...
      Note that that page never says that Jack's never served kangaroo burgers -- only that they never served wormburgers. Besides, those 'rooburgers were some of the tastiest fast-food burgers I've ever had.
    68. Re:soo... by howlingmad · · Score: 1

      "Would you like fries with that?" translates to "Moechten Sie Pomm Fritt dazu?"

      Good luck on your next trip to germany. ;-)

      HTH, Markus

    69. Re:soo... by Quikah · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah right. Source? If there is no fish in their fish sandwich then they are breaking a number of US laws since they list Fish Filet as one of the ingredients in the sandwich.

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    70. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neither. Just Bin Laden.

    71. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's GEICO. Please stop calling me!

    72. Re:soo... by Yakko · · Score: 1

      Would they charge $699 for it? It'd be an interesting new revenue stream for SCO...

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    73. Re:soo... by Yakko · · Score: 1

      ... or at least make the burgers such that they leave the wrappers less transparent. :o)

      (To be honest, if I want a burger from a fast food joint, BK wins hands-down. Their fries are nasty, though.)

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    74. Re:soo... by crypto1969fl · · Score: 0

      Its a well know fact that McDonalds chicken nuggets are no longer made of chicken but made of SHARK! Must be true, I saw it on the Internet ;-)

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    75. Re:soo... by Mr+Teddy+Bear · · Score: 1

      Actually it does... it refers to Jack in the Box as a varient of the rumor.

    76. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as soon as they crack penguin genome...

    77. Re:soo... by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      I guess I would have made the same conclusion... after a night of hard drinking! :-)

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    78. Re:soo... by Nerd+With+Nalgene · · Score: 1

      Ulch - that meat was tainted! You feel deathly sick.

      Hmm. How appropriate.

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    79. Re:soo... by stuntpope · · Score: 1

      How odd, they do just the opposite for me. No other fast food burger has the same effect, but within 30 minutes of eating a McD's burger, I'm off and running....

    80. Re:soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry, but if you hit one of the big red kangaroos that we have out in the "outback" you are most likely going to need a tow truck

  2. Will they... by flewp · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will they use the money saved to use better meat?

    Or should I say, will they use the money saved to buy ACTUAL meat?

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    1. Re:Will they... by thecombatwombat · · Score: 1

      Yes, my first thought when I saw this article: Penguins and Lizards. Mmmmmmm.

    2. Re:Will they... by Paster+Of+Muppets · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In the time honoured fashion of large companies, it is much more likely to go on directors' payouts, not improving the product

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    3. Re:Will they... by Dominic_Mazzoni · · Score: 3, Funny

      Will they use the money saved to use better meat?

      McDonald's burgers. Not meaty enough for carnivores. Not meatless enough for vegetarians. Why do people eat them? Oh yeah, fast and cheap.

    4. Re:Will they... by HogynCymraeg · · Score: 0

      They use meat?!?!

    5. Re:Will they... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "We went out one day and our Unix cows were missing," McBride said he told his father in trying to explain the case to him. "We looked in the Linux pen, and there's a bunch of them in there that have our brand on them . . . in this case the copyright. Someone took our cows and we want 'em back -- it's as simple as that."

    6. Re:Will they... by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 2, Interesting


      I agree.

      Never again for college.

      Oh, wait, I'm attending City College of San Francisco RIGHT NOW!

      Mostly to get money to survive.

      But I'm not flipping burgers! Instead, I, anarchist that I am, am taking Pell Grants from the suckers paying taxes in this moronic country.

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

      Actually, if you think about how many people eat at McDonald's, the idea of giving every one of them a free Knoppix Live CD would probably wipe out Windows in a couple months.

      I'll buy that for a dollar!

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    7. Re:Will they... by javax · · Score: 1


      Yeah, penguin burgers for OpenBSD hackers - like advertised here... (lower left on the poster)

    8. Re:Will they... by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 4, Informative

      According to Snopes you're a damn liar.

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    9. Re:Will they... by straybullets · · Score: 1

      Or should I say, will they use the money saved to buy ACTUAL meat?

      yeah well, all joke aside, the problem is that it REALLY is MEAT, and that it comes from billions of cows feeding over crop that used to be RAINFOREST .

      And now we sadly realize that open source or not, the computer is not our friend ...

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    10. Re:Will they... by EvilStein · · Score: 1

      and you're on Slashdot?

      Damn, know any Linux sysadmins? Red Hat/Gentoo?

      email me. Seriously. We have a few openings to fill at work and have seriously had very few applicants..

    11. Re:Will they... by CowboyBob500 · · Score: 1

      There's an advert on UK TV at the moment espousing that the *new* Chicken McNuggets are made with *real* chicken breast.

      My question is WTF were they made of before?

      Bob

    12. Re:Will they... by 0utRun · · Score: 1

      Why should they? They've been fooling people for all this time...

  3. "Would you like fries with that?" by n9fzx · · Score: 0, Redundant

    What's next? Tuxburgers?

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    1. Re:"Would you like fries with that?" by Amiga+Lover · · Score: 1

      Have to be better for you and more filling than a Micro-Soft Serve Cone

    2. Re:"Would you like fries with that?" by baryon351 · · Score: 1

      Is that better or worse than a Quadra Pounder with Cheese

    3. Re:"Would you like fries with that?" by spacefight · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Mod's on crack? Look at the timestamp, so it's in no way redundant, it's almost-the-same-time...

    4. Re:"Would you like fries with that?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have noticed recently that many posts have IMO unfairly modded down, including some of my own... Although, I expected a couple of them would...

      It seems like, over the past month or so, mod points have been given to humourless idiots, as opposed to your regular /.er

      I meta-modded some (again IMO) unfair decisions as wrong and now I've stopped getting mod points... Such is life...

    5. Re:"Would you like fries with that?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Painful thread painful.

      Must... control... fist... of... death. aaaaaaaarggghh!

    6. Re:"Would you like fries with that?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems like, over the past month or so, mod points have been given to humourless idiots, as opposed to your regular /.er

      How can you tell the difference?

    7. Re:"Would you like fries with that?" by n9fzx · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the sympathy. Try to spread a little humor, happen to post the same thing at the same time, get nailed for it. Karma comes, karma goes.

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  4. Robble Robble by buckhead_buddy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought the Hamburglar was already working with SCO.
    Would this be a conflict of interest?

    1. Re:Robble Robble by ValourX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, but if history holds true, this makes McDonalds a target for an SCO lawsuit. Both Chrysler and Autozone were former SCO UnixWare customers who switched to GNU/Linux.

      -Jem

    2. Re:Robble Robble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kroc vs Darl

      It does sound like something from a science fiction movie.

    3. Re:Robble Robble by kjj · · Score: 4, Informative

      The thing is that they were FORMER customers who no longer had any SCO contracts. In the case of DaimlerChrysler they hadn't been using SCO products for seven years. I believe AutoZone completely phased out SCO operating systems a couple of years ago. In these cases SCO really didn't have much to lose. It would be far more suicidal of SCO to go after a current customer who provides them with a very large portion of there OS revenue. A threat of a lawsuit against McDonalds might scare them back to SCO or more likely McDonalds would terminate all future contracts and begin switching over to something other than SCO.

    4. Re:Robble Robble by OwlWhacker · · Score: 1

      this makes McDonalds a target for an SCO lawsuit

      With more than 30,000 restaurants around the globe and more than 1,200 in Germany alone, McDonald's obviously doesn't give a damn.

    5. Re:Robble Robble by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      maybe they want out of sco.

      as such moving to linux is a logical route..

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    6. Re:Robble Robble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe McDonalds will by SCO thus giving us McUnix

    7. Re:Robble Robble by Zocalo · · Score: 5, Insightful
      this makes McDonalds a target for an SCO lawsuit.

      You'd think, but didn't SuSE get a restraining order or something on SCO last year? I'm wondering if McDonalds has been planning on moving to Linux globally for a while and didn't want to wait until SCO is toast before proceeding. A SCO hostile court system in Germany that has already ruled in SuSE's favour would make the country an ideal place to run the Linux trial while providing some protection from SCO. Very clever of McDonalds...

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      UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
    8. Re:Robble Robble by ajs318 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      SCO were ordered by the German courts not to go harassing Linux users -- unless and until it is proven beyond reasonable doubt, they are doing nothing illegal. That's what "innocent until proven guilty" means -- even if there is no doubt about whether you did something, there can be doubt about whether it was legal.

      If SCO try it on, they will be in contempt of court, and that is a very serious offence.

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    9. Re:Robble Robble by OwlWhacker · · Score: 1

      Maybe SCO will buy McDonald's and call it McBride's.

    10. Re:Robble Robble by mcbridematt · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thats it. I'm suing Darl for making a mockery of my family name.

    11. Re:Robble Robble by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Reading the story, it doesn't look like McDonald's is replacing their SCO boxes as those are POS terminals in their stores. It appears that they are installing Linux in their corporate networks to handle general business functions. They might be migrating from Unix. Not to say that they won't get sued, but unlike AutoZone and Chrysler, McDonald's is a current customer and might be very pissed. If SCO lost McDonald's as a customer over the whole thing, it would not help their bottom line any.

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    12. Re:Robble Robble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember, SCO has TWO Unix products. UnixWare and OpenServer. The latter being the cheaper of the two, less resource hungry, and not the original product sold to Novel by AT*T. Guess which one most retail establishments use?

  5. Take this, SCO ! by forged · · Score: 5, Funny
    Dear Darl,

    Time to update your success story pages again.

    Regards,
    Linus

    1. Re:Take this, SCO ! by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 1

      My thoughts exactly. If this rollout goes well, why not switch the lot?

  6. Goodbye SCO by lawrence.a.sim · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Poor SCO, McDonalds was their best customer!

    1. Re:Goodbye SCO by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 3, Funny

      In the interest of providing optimal posts, I will now edit your message.

      Poor SCO, McDonalds was their customer.

      Thank you for your patience.

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  7. Supersize me by sshtome · · Score: 0

    Is it just me or isn't this a bit of a coop for linux.

    Yes MacDonalds is in trouble, (http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/supersi ze_me.html)
    and *HAS* to do something about its image (like the new salads range and things)

    But even still, this is a company that relies on computers like all big companies, but isn't actually in the field. Thay are going to use linux.

    Roll on the linux age.

    1. Re:Supersize me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm... I'm sure there are many Linux developers out there who aren't exactly overjoyed about the prospect of their hard work being spent on making fat people fatter....

      I think the true coop will arrive when 'the people' have to request software other than 'GNU Linux' be pre-installed on their spanky new desktop.

    2. Re:Supersize me by scmason · · Score: 5, Insightful

      " Is it just me or isn't this a bit of a coop for linux."

      While stories like this are still interesting, I am not sure that it is really a coop anymore. In '96 I would have been forwarding this story to everyone I knew, but Linux is all grown up now. Hell, Linux runs some of the biggest computers in the world these days. Slobbering over stories like this is a lot like getting all excited when your 11 year old kid is able to dress himself when he has already been doing it for 9 years...

      While it is good news for Novell and Suse, it should be expected that an extremely adept and profit driven company like McDonalds would see that Linux IS the full meal deal.

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    3. Re:Supersize me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Okay, I wasn't going to be a dick about this, but it has been repeated three times without anybody mentioning it, so I gotta step in and point out that a co-op is a place where the shoppers have a financial stake in the management.
      A "coop" is a house for animals like a chicken coop.
      A "coup", as in the French phrase "coup d'etat" is a striking victory. It was also used as a reference to the Native American tradition of touching one's enemy in battle to demonstrate your dominant skill and control over the battle.
      A "coupe" is a type of car body.
      To "coo" is to speak in a murmuring tone much like that of a pigeon.
      So, this time I'm going to let you all go. But if it happens again. . . well, I'll kick your fucking asses.

    4. Re:Supersize me by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 1
      The thing is, how many corporations are running Linux? BTW I'm not anti-Linux here, hear me out.

      You talk about "some of the worlds largest computers", but a lot of those are used for research, not data management.

      The big thing is getting corporations to take it seriously. I speak to people, and a lot of them still think it's a toy.

    5. Re:Supersize me by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Informative

      a coop for linux.

      coop A cage or pen for confining poultry
      coup A notable or strikingly successful move.

      Do you really think Tux belongs in a coop?

    6. Re:Supersize me by DeepHurtn! · · Score: 2, Funny
      Is it just me or isn't this a bit of a coop for linux.

      Hmm, well, I guess it could mean more efficient access to Chicken McNuggets...

    7. Re:Supersize me by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1

      Only if Gates is in there with him!

      Remember, Tux is our mascot because he BIT LINUS!

      Imagine what he'd do to Gates!

      It's too horrible to contemplate...

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    8. Re:Supersize me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sgt. SpellRight of the Spelling Police here...

      It's "coup", not "coop." It's comes from the french "coup d'etat" meaning "violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group."

      OK, move along, nothing else to see here...

    9. Re:Supersize me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well we know McDonalds doesn't use any real chicken so you're probably right.

    10. Re:Supersize me by StarTux · · Score: 1

      "Do you really think Tux belongs in a coop?"

      Well he is afterall a Bird...

    11. Re:Supersize me by Yoncarzy · · Score: 1

      I would be really exciting if they could get McDonalds to SUPERSIZE the order!

    12. Re:Supersize me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      scoop

      Entry: scoop Function: noun Definition: information Synonyms: beat, exclusive, expose, inside story, news, revelation, sensation Concept: information

    13. Re:Supersize me by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Are you kidding? The "Data Management" people were the first to get onboard. Did you miss the announcement about Oracle Corp. moving to all Linux in house?

      The initial push for corporate legitimacy of Linux was driven by RDBMS vendors, including Oracle. Even now, Oracle is pushing the most highend version of it's product on Linux. Banks and investment firms run large Oracle databases on Linux.

      Although, the "data management" crowd can be just plain meek (as opposed to merely conservative). The fact that a faction of them might think something a toy doesn't really mean anything.

      Although shops like that are likely avoiding Unix entirely. They probably view Solaris in the same way.

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  8. Novell!!??? by RTPMatt · · Score: 0, Redundant

    What are they doing with McDonalds? Do they have some kindov deal?

    1. Re:Novell!!??? by welshwaterloo · · Score: 0

      Do they have some kindov deal?
      Yes, yes they do. McDonalds is going to use SUSE servers. Now, who bought SUSE recently?

  9. Well now... by abscondment · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's really exciting--maybe they'll switch to high quality food now, too.

    But seriously...

    McDonald's Germany deploys SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server for DNS, FTP, and proxy services on the Internet.

    I doubt that they'll replace their in-store systems. There's no real need there--most places are running something really ancient that still works. However, I wouldn't mind seing a penguin or two while I'm ordering... and, with all that money they've got, who knows?

    1. Re:Well now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      McDonald's used Netware in their instore systems. i dont know if the registers used netware or dos. but i think its netware.

      i dont think they will change their instore systems. because they work pretty good. i never had a mcdonald register hang up or mess up. unlink the self checkouts many grocery stores use. (windows 2000) kroger and walmart both use windows 2000. with krogers systems provided by optimal robotics and walmarts systems by NCR (walmarts systems are piece of junk)

      i know all this coz i have worked at all this places. yeah i have a CS. but ....

    2. Re:Well now... by DrXym · · Score: 2, Funny
      Well it does says 4000 stores - I assume that most stores have at most 2 server PCs in a back office, maybe even only one holding the accounts, talking to the terminals and talking to head office.

      And the really ancient thing they're using here is SCO Unix which as far back as I can remember has never been 'modern' at any point in time. But as a *nix, porting from it to Linux should be a relatively straightforward proposition (as Autozone already know much to SCO's consternation and bogus lawsuits). And it may be that the vendors who wrote the databases, stock control / POS / accounting / payrole software have already done the work since Linux is a tier 1 platform.

      Who knows, perhaps it was the vendors who motivated McDonalds to quit. Maybe they said to management what everyone already else knows - SCO is a piece of shit, the company is going down the plug hole, it won't run on hardware X and it'll cost $$$$ to support it even if it did. No doubt McD's IT department pushed the same story from the inside.

      It's another kick in the balls for SCO which is always good for a laugh. It's too bad the markets are closed today because their stock is doing a good impression of the Titanic.

      So long SCO, we hardly knew ye.

    3. Re:Well now... by DrXym · · Score: 4, Insightful
      LOL - I will correct post right away - I got the press releases all mixed up. The SCO press release says 4000 stores (anywhere), the Novell one says 1200 stores (in Germany) but talks of running SUSE Enterprise Linux. So my points are based on a total misreading of what was in front of my eyes. My bad.


      Anyway sooner or later anything running SCO is doomed.

    4. Re:Well now... by ffsnjb · · Score: 3, Informative

      The store I worked in back in HS had one old ass 'server' which all the terminals and printers were networked to, using 10base2 no less! :)

      I had to replace segments of of coax frequently as people would yank them out of the walls while moving equipment for cleaning (yes, we cleaned. I held the record for fastest spotless kitchen close @ 12 minutes flat). I was the only one with a clue, and the store manager didn't want to call in a service tech if he could get me to do it for free.

      The server would dial-up at the end of the day to the franchise's office, probably a cron job. I wasn't allowed to touch that though. Damn shame, it was probably my only chance to touch some ancient crap hardware.

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    5. Re:Well now... by Polkyb · · Score: 1
      However, I wouldn't mind seing a penguin or two while I'm ordering...

      Do you think they might come out with a range of Tux toys for distribution with their Happy Meals?

      Go for the toy and bin the food...

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      I've never shoed a horse, but I once told a donkey to piss off!
    6. Re:Well now... by castlec · · Score: 1

      while i was still in college we got a brand new server set-up at the mcdonalds i was working at. it was a screaming fast p100 from ibm(mind you, this was in the time that intel was peaking around p4 2.4ghz). Our store wasn't very large, but we had one system running the whole store(well, two really, but one was a windows98 box that ONLY ran the graphic menu system outside). Everything ran off the one sco box, given the kinds of transactions, i'm sure we had more problems with network latency, due to the nice coax everywhere, than with machine slowness. i'd be willing to bet that they are only replacing machines that need to be replaced due to age and saving themselves licensing hassles at the same time.

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    7. Re:Well now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they'll "Open Sauce" the food ??

    8. Re:Well now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You'll lose a lot of karma making mistakes like that.

      No wait, my bad. I was totally wrong. You'll get BOTH posts modded up. Can I have a +4 insightful for pointint out my mistake?

    9. Re:Well now... by joshuaobrien · · Score: 1

      However, I wouldn't mind seing a penguin or two while I'm ordering.

      But what sauce will they come with?

    10. Re:Well now... by tomknight · · Score: 5, Funny

      Open sauce, of course.....

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    11. Re:Well now... by dj245 · · Score: 1, Interesting
      It's too bad the markets are closed today because their stock is doing a good impression of the Titanic.

      The Itanic, in case you didn't know, is slang for the Itanium processor, made by the Intel corp. The chip has never sold in large quantities, and recent offerings in the 64-bit arena have made the massive quantities of money that Intel spent on it look like the nobody was on lookout duty and the company had hit an iceberg in the high end server space.

      Oh wait...

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    12. Re:Well now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      That's really exciting--maybe they'll switch to high quality food now, too.



      No, just means that their burgers will be open sauce!

      - Sweetjesus

    13. Re:Well now... by confused+one · · Score: 2, Informative
      The store would have only one "server," two would be too expensive.

      I've looked at a Pizza Hut installation (they run SCO server software, similar to McD's)... It's a PC running SCO unix in the back office, hooked up to the POS terminals using serial ports. Once a day it dials up (POTS modem) the "home office" to upload the days transactions and place orders.

    14. Re:Well now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For what it's worth -- the local McDonalds in my western-Chicago suburb has two or three beige boxen in it, that I've seen from the counter ... and, on two of them, I've seen a Windows 2000 desktop.

      Dunno what they have in the back room, but MS is definitely a part of some McD's stores.

    15. Re:Well now... by rk87 · · Score: 1

      The McDonald's instore system use MS-DOS 6.22, on Pentium 233mhz, 32MB RAM. They are dog slow :). They don't crash however (Except for that one in our back booth --- it hangs up every few days, and has to be restarted. probably some hardware defect, oh well).

      The Administrator system uses Windows 98, although their management system is DOS based (so, it runs before Windows 98 "boots"). Our learning computer downstairs runs Windows 2000.

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    16. Re:Well now... by Justin205 · · Score: 1

      Their sauce is the one thing we'll never get the code for.

      Anyone up to reverse engineering it?

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  10. I wonder. . . by Brissie_lad · · Score: 4, Funny

    . . . if Darl is dreaming of a McLicense with Coke®?

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    1. Re:I wonder. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, one thing is allmost sure, he probably allready IS on coke ;)

    2. Re:I wonder. . . by RPoet · · Score: 3, Funny

      In fact, looks like he's already flipping burgers.

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    3. Re:I wonder. . . by slimpinto · · Score: 0

      Damn you...I was sipping coffee when I viewed that pix...HEHE!

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  11. Not much behind this really... by coupland · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the press release:

    McDonald's Germany deploys SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server for DNS, FTP, and proxy services on the Internet.

    I count three servers there, and "FTP" hardly strikes me as a core service for a fast-food company. This is your typical press-release, intended to produce hype but without a lot behind it. It strikes me as grandstanding by Novell since everyone knows McDonalds uses SCO Unix for many of their POS terminals and someone who reads this headline quickly may think they're ripping out Unix and putting in Linux. Sorry, only three boxes at play here.

    And no, I'm not defending SCO, I'm just saying this press release doesn't mean much.

    1. Re:Not much behind this really... by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny
      "FTP" hardly strikes me as a core service for a fast-food company.

      Actually, the Fries Transfer Protocol is definitely a core service.

    2. Re:Not much behind this really... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That was my initial reaction as well. But think about it, McD needs to keep records just like any other firm. They need servers and desktops for making sure their business needs are met. After all, they are running a business here, not a roadside circus.

    3. Re:Not much behind this really... by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      I wonder how many people will read and make note of this before jumping in with "yay, McDonald's are replacing all their SCO software with Linux?"

      As this is /. I'm guessing 1% of subsequent posts.

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    4. Re:Not much behind this really... by Zayin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "McDonald's Germany deploys SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server for DNS, FTP, and proxy services on the Internet."

      I count three servers there, and "FTP" hardly strikes me as a core service for a fast-food company.

      Services != servers

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    5. Re:Not much behind this really... by phrasebook · · Score: 2, Funny

      Services != servers

      You're right. DNS, FTP and proxy can all be done on a single server. Some news.

    6. Re:Not much behind this really... by Tony-A · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This doesn't sound like just DNS, FTP and proxy services to me.
      McDonalds has been using computers for a long, long time and Novell is business-savy enough to not let loose their customer's plans.

      "SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server enables us to deliver a functional, flexible, efficient, and yet efficient infrastructure," says Trepl.

      Apache as web server and JRun or Tomcat enable the implementation of static HTML contents as well as dynamic Java-based applications without having to resort to overly large solutions. The utilized Oracle9i database is certified for SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server.

      According to Trepl, "Our current solution can be expanded at any time. This is possible due to the low price, the flexibility of a Linux solution, and the certification of SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server for solutions such as Oracle9i. Thus, there is no upper limit."

    7. Re:Not much behind this really... by welshwaterloo · · Score: 0

      You count three servers? DNS, FTP and proxy services for a large company over a country the size of Germany? Methinks a little more than three boxes..
      And you think the McDonalds' in other countries might be watching to see how much money they save?

    8. Re:Not much behind this really... by Peer · · Score: 1

      There's more: they're running some database driven website as well;

      Apache as web server and JRun or Tomcat enable the implementation of static HTML contents as well as dynamic Java-based applications without having to resort to overly large solutions. The utilized Oracle9i database is certified for SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server.

    9. Re:Not much behind this really... by hawkeyeMI · · Score: 3, Insightful
      efficient, and yet efficient

      Had anyone else noticed this? How did it get past PR?

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    10. Re:Not much behind this really... by Feztaa · · Score: 5, Funny

      PR was sleeping, and yet sleeping.

    11. Re:Not much behind this really... by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 1

      I tried running a packet sniffer on tht service. They smelled like ketchup.

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    12. Re:Not much behind this really... by Tony-A · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Probably went along for the ride with "enable the implementation of static HTML contents as well as dynamic Java-based applications".

      Possibly translation error. Possibly they're excited but don't want to give too much away as to what their plans are.

    13. Re:Not much behind this really... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I think FTP might be more important than you think:

      If you assume that the change from SCO to Linux is partly because of lifecycle updates, you can guess that the current servers are about three years old. Who used SSH/SCP three years ago?

      I have worked as a consultant for a number of companies with more or less similar problems, but not McD itself. In almost all cases, the in-store server would gather all relevant data, including sales and inventory data, and store it in some directory. An HQ server would then retrieve this data using FTP and use it to prepare the next-day delivery of goods.

      As said, I have never worked for McD, but I think that if FTP would be down for more than a day, their whole just-in-time delivery setup would break down or require some serious manual intervention. If done incorrectly, there might not be enough burgers for the next day. Sounds like core business to me.

      Companies like McD make their money by the penny, not by the pound. Having exact, detailed information on sales and inventory available at HQ is the difference between a tiny profit and a major loss. Somehow I don't think all stores are real-time connected to HQ (what would happen if the connection was down, even for a minute?) so there is an off-line data transfer. And that means FTP, as long as SCP is not yet implemented.

    14. Re:Not much behind this really... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>they are running a business here, not a roadside circus

      But isn't their mascot a clown?

    15. Re:Not much behind this really... by thrills33ker · · Score: 1

      > everyone knows McDonalds uses SCO Unix for many of their POS terminals how appropriate!

    16. Re:Not much behind this really... by rixdaffy · · Score: 1


      actually, in the netherlands they daily send batches with sales/stock/employee information through FTP...
      it's DOS based stuff running under windows where I saw it...
      I have no idea if they use the same system in Germany as it seems to be made/supported by a dutch company.

      Ricardo.

    17. Re:Not much behind this really... by MegaFur · · Score: 1

      Well it is core, yeah but it doesn't involve computers too much. It's mostly a people protocol.

      At Burger King (I used to work there), either an order taker or an expiditer notices that there aren't enough fries in the hopper to fill the number of orders on queue. S/he asks/yells "{Could I get,We need} some fries down." A "cook" (food assembler) that's not busy fills a fry basket from the fry basket filling machine (really). If the fry basket filling machine has an empty hopper, the food assembler must refill the hopper first. This may or may not require going to the walk-in freezer depending on whether or not there are any bags of fries already out. (This works a bit like a page fault or a handled "buffer empty" exception in that you don't find out if the hopper's empty until you need the fries.)

      Do you think I should submit this as a new RFC? No, probably not.

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  12. I'm conflicted.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm conflicted. Part of me wants to jear, because I'm told McD is evil and I should hate it without question. And part of me wants to chear, since I'm told to support leenux without question. My knees don't know which way to jerk!

    1. Re:I'm conflicted.... by Ralph+Yarro · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I'm conflicted. Part of me wants to jear, because I'm told McD is evil and I should hate it without question. And part of me wants to chear, since I'm told to support leenux without question. My knees don't know which way to jerk!

      This is a problem that has been struggled with in the past and, luckily for you, the accumulated wisdom of Slashdot has already arrived at a simple solution : Blame Microsoft!

      My suggestion:

      McDonalds Germany won't be using Linux for long once the EU accepts software patents. McDonalds will be forced to switch to Windows due to their patent on the double click and probably one on multiple key presses (aka typing) too.

      And if McDonalds won't switch then Microsoft will start bundling burgers with Windows. How long can McDonalds survive against that? Why is Microfot being allowed to get away with this? They are leveraging their CRIMINAL operating system monopoly into a fast food monopoly.


      Simple, elegant, on topic.
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    2. Re:I'm conflicted.... by krumms · · Score: 0

      I'll never forget the day when I was in the city, feeling a bit peckish. I went and bought a burger, and some chips from KFC then, seeing their seating area full, looked around for somewhere to sit.

      I ended up sitting down outside of a McDonald's store with my meal. I was eating away happily, almost finished when a McDrone - obviously under the direction of her coward ass manager - told me that the area I chose to sit in was, in fact, reserved for McDonalds customers (her actual words included the phrase "you can't eat here").

      I giggled, told her I'd just finished anyway then got up and walked off, astounded at the fact that - although I was generally a McDonalds customer - I chose otherwise for a day and was treated like dirt.

      In retrospect it would have been nice to tell the bitch to get fucked. I suppose though, in a day when schools are billboards for these corporate fucks it should be no surprise that a silly high school chick doesn't have the balls (so to speak) to tell her manager to fuck off.

      Anyway, I make it a point to sit in that area eating KFC whenever I can now. (Unfortunately?) I haven't been asked to move since.

    3. Re:I'm conflicted.... by tomknight · · Score: 1
      Ah, what she meant was a general statement of "you can't eat food here". You sure as hell can't buy food there, after all.

      As it happens, I don't blame them for asking you to move on. If I was a food joint owner and I I saw a competitor's food being eaten on my premises I'd really want to tell 'em to fuck right off. I'll admit I'd phrase it differently, but I'd cerainly ask 'em to move along.

      Tom.

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    4. Re:I'm conflicted.... by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      I suppose you're the same guy who brings your own beer to the bar and expects to be allowed in?

  13. Poor SCO by Tailhook · · Score: 4, Interesting

    SCO has, for some time, told anyone who will listen that McDonalds cash registers run SCO Unix. Micky-dees is one of their largest customers.

    Correction: WAS one of their largest customers!

    When it rains it pours, eh?

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    1. Re:Poor SCO by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Unfortunately Pizza Hut's systems also run sco.
      Might explain why they have kept cutting back on the number of people they keep on staff in thier stores to the point where if the local hut isn't pulling down quite a few bucks you can count on slow service because they just don't have the manpower to keep up.
      Just DON'T take it out on the delivery driver by not tipping or worse, tipping very poorly. I guarantee he's doing his level best to deliver as many as possible in as little time as possible. He makes his money on those tips, not the paycheck and thus the more deliveries he makes the more $$ he makes.
      Still If you want to hurt sco a bit and get better service just don't order pizza hut, but tell them why. (say "stop using sco and hire enough people to do the job")

      Mycroft

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    2. Re:Poor SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      correction they used netware atleast since last 2 years.

      see my post here: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=110705&thresho ld=-1&commentsort=0&tid=126&tid=143&tid=163&tid=18 7&mode=thread&pid=9395744

    3. Re:Poor SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If SCO has actually said that the McDonald's cash registers run SCO, that's something else they're lying about.

      McDonald's USA back office systems run on SCO and have since Xenix days. The recommended POS software runs on a far more modern and superior operating system.

      MS-DOS.

      Sad but true. There's work underway to move over to a Windows-based system on the registers, but afaik the back office will still be SCO.

    4. Re:Poor SCO by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Pizza Hut runs SCO? Since when? Ten years ago, I thought they were running QNX for the store backbone, probably the POS units too. At the time, it was a bit pricey over a DOS setup, but the franchise owners had to eat that cost.

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    5. Re:Poor SCO by StressedEd · · Score: 1
      Off topic I know but...

      He makes his money on those tips, not the paycheck and thus the more deliveries he makes the more $$ he makes.

      This is something I never really appreciated about the cultural differences between the US and UK. Over there it is natural to tip practically everyone for everything, to such an extent that I'm sure it can be significant compared to saleries. Of course this is "unearned income" it's not taxed so I'm sure the employee, if they are good at getting tips is happy to perpetuate this (boo hiss to the taxman)..

      One thing that shocked me was tipping bar staff. For me (and most fellow britons) the assumption is that staff are employed to do a job and should be paid a fair wage for what they do. Over here most bar staff would think it odd (even insulting) to be given tips (I have worked behind a bar and certainly would have that opinon).

      When I visited the US however barstaff got really shirty when I didn't leave a tip, it took me a while to understand why...

      On another off hand ramble... I've noticed a creeping policy of many places (such as bars) starting to add "opt out" service charge to customers... I wonder if they pay the VAT [*] on that?

      Anyway, random ramble over....

      [*] Value Added Tax - A levy on most things you by as an end consumer currently at 17.5%.

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    6. Re:Poor SCO by NamShubCMX · · Score: 1
      Just DON'T take it out on the delivery driver by not tipping or worse, tipping very poorly

      Yea, leave him to the mafia :)

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    7. Re:Poor SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why should I supplement the bosses of pizza hut underpaying delivery boys?

      The money they're underpaying the pizza boys, that the customers are making up.... that is just going straight into the pockets of the pizzahut bosses (from savings on wages). If the wages are really too low to live off, get another job and stop supporting the fatcats.

      A tip is supposed to be a bonus you give to someone who has given you special service, some kid bringing a box to my door from his car 3 meters away is not good service and doesn't deserve a tip. Maybe he did get here fast, well done, thats his job and again its not my fault if he isn't paid enough for doing it. Its the fault of the person paying him.

    8. Re:Poor SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pizza Hut runs SCO? Since when? Ten years ago, I thought they were running QNX for the store backbone, probably the POS units too.

      POS runs on WinNT in the store I work at.

      And yes, the regional manager has sent emails (on the same day) saying to "cut hours" and "maintain on-times".

    9. Re:Poor SCO by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

      That's bullshit. I have a McDonald's cash register system in my office. It's running DOS networked using my packet drivers.
      -russ

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    10. Re:Poor SCO by crimethinker · · Score: 1
      Still If you want to hurt sco a bit and get better service just don't order pizza hut, but tell them why. (say "stop using sco and hire enough people to do the job")

      Actually, the best reason not to buy Pizza Hut is that they fired a driver in Indiana for defending his life. As the driver was making a delivery, a scumbag walked up and pointed a pistol at the driver. The driver responded by drawing his weapon (legally carried per a concealed weapons permit) and shot the robber dead. The driver quoted the dying robber as saying, "all I wanted was some pizza." (Yeah, sure, and the money, plus maybe murder the driver so he can't pick you out of a lineup.)

      Despite the fact that the scumbag had a rap sheet a mile long, and the driver was on solid legal ground (the DA refuses to press charges, calling it "a clear-cut case of self defense"), Pizza Hut fired the driver. Fired for defending your own life, how's that for a kick in the balls?

      And that, kids, is why we're not eating at Pizza Hut any more.

      -paul

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    11. Re:Poor SCO by gcaseye6677 · · Score: 1

      I think McDonalds is making the switch because they realize that SCO will almost certainly be out of business within 2 years, and they would not want to be stuck with unsupported software on crucial systems. At this point, it would be a prudent business decision for any SCO customer to look for alternatives, not just to be 'anti-SCO', but for their own good. Of course, a company that has a habit of suing its own customers is not likely to make someone want to keep doing business with them anyway.

    12. Re:Poor SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      POS on POS. Makes sense to me.

    13. Re:Poor SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's even worse than you think.

      If you are in the sort of job where tipping is customary (restaurant wait staff at least, not sure about bartenders) it is _assumed_ that you are getting a tipped a certain percentage of your sales (at least 15%) and you pay income tax based on that income.

      I've never worked as a waiter, but all of my friends who have tell me that they hate waiting on foreigners. Not because they are biased or prejudiced, but because they don't know if they are going to get a tip. If the customer doesn't tip them, they get screwed. Not only do they not get paid for serving the meal (base pay for wait staff is usually less than minimum wage, if there is any base pay at all) but they also pay income tax on income that they didn't get.

      This especially sucks when the customer has just expressed appreciation for the fine service, then walks out the door having left exact change for the bill.

      Its a shitty system, IMHO, but at least it keeps your waiters motivated. It also makes me glad I've never had to work one of those jobs

    14. Re:Poor SCO by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      It may not be required of Franchise owners. Or it may be regional. I've never seen a pizza hut running anything else at the store level. Though area manager DO use a windows of some sort (nt or more recently XP, perhaps this is what another poster in this thread is refering to).
      I first noticed this in 91 IIRC when I first worked for a Pizza Hut. I've worked for the Hut twice since then and other that 'upgrades' to fms and sus (the two main apps) and later the addition of 'sco open server' on the touch screens the've all been sco unix. My Mom was also a store manager for a pizza hut for several years, and my most recent time working for the hut only ended last feb, five years in management. Between three trips through and being heavilly borrowed to help out at other stores I've worked in about 8 or 9 stores, been trained for management in one, had to train whole new crew for a new store I was asked to join management at (by the regional training manager).All running sco unix on thier systems, though I think nt may have been used for the phone answering system in the new store, but it wasn't connect to the main system.
      For what it's worth this is the st. louis area in Missouri (USA if not obvious).

      Mycroft

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    15. Re:Poor SCO by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      Usually (in my experience) the only places that have practices like this are place that pay less than minimum wage to thier tiped staff. Federal wage law allows a person to be paid as little as HALF the mininum wage in tiped jobs, but the employer MUST cover the difference if the combination of tips and wages don't meet minimum wage.
      Since reporting tip income is strictly the responsibility of the worker there is no need otherwise.
      I do know that Pizza Hut has no requirement of reporting unless your wage is under 5.15/hour. And even then your only required to report 'enough' to stay at or above 5.15/hour.
      Also at least two other pizza deleveries chains in my area do the same. (St. Louis, Missouri).
      They are Papa Johns, and a local chain that 'hires' thier drivers as 'sub-contractors'. All thier required to do is take deliveries, but all they get is thier tips and $.5 per delivery.

      A good rule of thumb here in the midwest is to tip a minumum 10% or $2.00 (which ever is greater) on any order over $10. and 1.5 or more NO MATTER WHAT. break that guidline and I seriously advise you to NEVER order there again. Odds are the driver will have forgotten and is a responsible guy anyway, and your not likely to get the same driver twice. BUT I've know a few drivers to do really stupid stuff. Now I consider that kind of thing completely inexcusable, I suspended a driver once for simply mouthing off to someone who's only mistake was to stiff, the store manager fired him for it (never say "damn cheapskate" to a customer when you're supposed to be showing a new driver,who won't lie for you,the ropes). The most common is to spit on, or add pubic hair to a pizza. I've also heard of people getting serum of ipicac(sp?) in pizza's before.
      On the flip side, a consistant good tipper(150% or so of above min) DOES get better service. Many times (especially during peak times on friday and saturday) a driver is sent out with orders for more than one location. MOST drivers will try and take the good tippers pizza first, saving the good tipper as much as ten minutes on his wait. not to mention the much better attitude the driver will show, a much greater willingness to help fix any problem, wherase the stiff is gonna get 'sorry you'll have to call my manager about that'

      Mycroft

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    16. Re:Poor SCO by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but you will pay the tip sooner or later, because if enough people stop tipping that the owner have to pay thier drivers more guess where that money comes from?
      Also you might want to consider that the markup on a pizza is a less than a tip quite ofter. a $12 pizza usually costs $8.00-$10.00 dollars deliverd when everything is factored in. When you factor in that a typical driver will put from 60-120 miles on HIS car in a single shift all so you can sit at home rather than go pick up a pizza or cook yourself a meal, I think a tip is warrented.
      And TRUST me you don't want to become known as a habitual stiff. If your very nice otherwise to the drivers you'll just be last in line for delivery and average an extra 10 min wait. And thats the best you can hope for, think about it.
      Now some will think I'm feeding a troll, and perhaps I am, but I've seen that exact same attitude out of others before, and it's not a good one to have.
      The common attitude towards stiffs I've seen amoung drivers is 'if you can't afford a tip, you shouldn't be ordering pizza' with the insinuation that a cronic stiffer is some idiot with no money skills and likely living off welfare.

      Mycroft

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    17. Re:Poor SCO by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      While I do agree what happened to that driver is bad. I feel in fairness I should explain what I know of how such things work.
      Pizza hut has a no weapons policy, so while it may have been leagle for him carry that weapon, and quite possibly (I don't know the area in question) the sane thing to do. Simply having on him is a firing offence.
      The reason for this is primarily liability. Suppose a driver is carrying, leagly of course, a gun, and an accident occures killing or wounding someone. Guess who gets sued. Or considering some suits that have succeded, the driver gets jumped by three guys with shawed offs, shoots one, the others run, the dead guys wife sues and wins.
      Now most people who have a leagle carry permit also have training to get that permit. And statisticly are VERY unlikely to do somthing BAD with thier weapon. But Pizza Hut is unwilling to take the chance, or even deal with the complication of allowing SOME drivers to carry because they have permits and so on.
      The other factor is that MOST of the time all the guy wants is the money (this is why PH drivers are NOT allowed to have more that $x on them at any time. this varies a bit by region but is usually between $10 and $30, plus the payment for any deliveries they have dropped off since they left the store). Drivers are told to simply give a mugger anything(as in objects, ie money or pizza or even your car) he asks for, but are advized against going anywhere with a mugger. They are also told to avoid suspisious circumstances (like houses with all lights off, no sign of habitation, so if you order, make shure your lights, esp. porch are on) and not to count money other than when recieved and to be brisk to and from car, etc.
      For what it's worth that man would have been let go from ANY of the pizza delivery chains as ALL have a simular no weapons policy. If he'd been one of my drivers I would have had to fire him as his manager, privately I would told him he did the right thing and should not feel anything negative.
      Personally I've always thought that if instead of the standard 'just do what the criminal says' routine that we're constantly taught we shouldn't instead always fight back. Think about it. then think it through from a criminal point of view.

      Mycroft

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  14. A Dubious Achievement by mark99 · · Score: 1

    Not quite as bad as the Tabaco industry from the PC point-of-view.

    But McDonalds is kind of a down market, low functionality kind of restaruant. Not exactly a great image for a high-tech customer reference. For that Tabaco would have been better.

    1. Re:A Dubious Achievement by tehcyder · · Score: 2, Funny
      Tabaco? Is that some new hybrid of Tobacco and Taco?

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    2. Re:A Dubious Achievement by Tony-A · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not exactly a great image for a high-tech customer reference.

      I'd disagree. McDonalds was into computers and automation long before most Slashdotters were born. It's not just Burger King that imitates McDonalds.

    3. Re:A Dubious Achievement by mark99 · · Score: 1

      Ouch. It looked wrong, but I checked on Google and got 683,000 hits and no suggestion of an alternate spelling, so I thought it was right.

      Me and 683,000 other people can't be wrong :)

    4. Re:A Dubious Achievement by mark99 · · Score: 1

      Ouch again.

      That would be "683,000 people and I".

    5. Re:A Dubious Achievement by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      Tabaco is the Spanish spelling, so it's not surprising you got so many hits.

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    6. Re:A Dubious Achievement by vrai · · Score: 1
      I just took a look and not one of the sites on the first page of results is in English - that should have given you a hint.

      In the future try this and this.

    7. Re:A Dubious Achievement by tomknight · · Score: 1
      Well, if I ask google about "dfgsdg", it suggests I really want "dgsdg".

      Yom.

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  15. trying something new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guess that food-selling business hasn't been working out, and now they're going to try and sell software?

  16. Bad for MacDonalds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Without the power of Windows they'll be bankrupt within months. I know that because I have a certificate.

    1. Re:Bad for MacDonalds by Linux_ho · · Score: 1
      Without the power of Windows they'll be bankrupt within months. I know that because I have a certificate.
      You mean you have a McSE?
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  17. So what to expect now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Maybe a McDistro...

    "Would you like Tux with that sir?"

    1. Re:So what to expect now... by cana5ta · · Score: 1

      No we don't want a Big Mac, we want our Big Lin...

      Does KFCs Colonel ordering the chicken via a real (2.6.x) kernel..

  18. Undisputed market leader in fast food by jandersen · · Score: 1

    - as well as in waste recycling, especially road kills, dead farm animals. pets etc.

  19. It's still McDonalds by scalded · · Score: 1

    I don't care what kernel they run, their burgers will still taste open-sourced.

    1. Re:It's still McDonalds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's open-sauced.

  20. Kind of Misleading - Just their web servers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems like meaningless self-promotion because who is this really going to effect and who is going to notice? Will a web surfer be like "Wow! This Big Mac Jpeg is loading SO much more efficiently than last week!"?

  21. sales grow marketshare by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Novell is back - they convinced thousands of businesses to network in the 1980s and 1990s. And now they're selling Linux and support to more businesses. Which will need Linux software, and pay to get it. Either in cash, to developers, or in GPL code they revise and publish. The economic network effect will see Linux value increase exponentially as more nodes in the value net grow yet more nodes, passing value back and forth among the network - all paved with Linux. I haven't been this happy about Utah and Germany swinging together since the last Olympic skiing broadcasts.

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    1. Re:sales grow marketshare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While this could be fantastic news, I am a little hesitant. Novell does not have a long history of tech innovation and solid business practices. They had a short burst of genius, followed by a lot of coasting on a big pile of cash, and more than one failed attempt to recapture the former glory.

      I'll believe the Novell/Linux success story when it actually happens. It hasn't yet.

    2. Re:sales grow marketshare by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Actually, Novell has a long history of tech innovation and solid business practices, eclipsed by Microsoft's marketing department since the mid 1990s. Directory services, net sync, interoperation, thin clients, PC networking itself. They all worked well together, and continued their operation under the most successful networking company until Cisco. When M$ captured all the "PC server" press in about 1996, they got submerged by the same wave as everyone else dealing with the M$ monopoly. It's to their credit that they've adopted a Linux strategy, gaining both tech and marketing leads. They're positioned towards the top of the server market again, along with IBM, where they belong - as long as they keep delivering the goods.

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  22. yes they are by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny

    McDonald's is trying to make new inroads with the wildlife-loving set. After penguin burgers they will be introducing the wildly successful Baby Seal breakfast sausage. But the tastiest addition to their menu will be the Bald Eagle McNuggets. Yum!

    1. Re:yes they are by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 1
      After penguin burgers they will be introducing the wildly successful Baby Seal breakfast sausage.
      You may laugh, but seal meat doesn't taste that bad.
    2. Re:yes they are by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 1

      it tastes like a mixture of snail-darter and spotted owl.

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    3. Re:yes they are by iocat · · Score: 1

      Slight OT -- I've heard people mention the spotted owl taste, but when I eat seal -- or more usually, sea lion -- it really tastes more like California Condor to me. Even more than panda does (canned panda, anyway).

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  23. Another v.bad joke... by CdBee · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..Thought Linux didn't have driver support for their chips...

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  24. Microsoft will be Furious.,...Maybe by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I can see Balmer having apoplexy as we type.

    This will probobly be followed up by calls on unamericanism, anticapitalism and communism against McDonalds. The company will then be accused of supporting terrorism and having al-queda training camps set up in parking lots after hours. Bin Laden wears a purple hat, cell leaders a green hat. Rookies wear red hats and fedoras. HA! I made another funnie!

    Seriously though I doubt that the tillers at McD will be logging transactions at a bash prompt anytime soon. From the sound of the article the company is using Linux on backend servers for important tasks, like just about every medium to large company in existence. But I'd still be willing to bet that they're using 2000/3 and ADT.

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    1. Re:Microsoft will be Furious.,...Maybe by csirac · · Score: 2, Funny

      unamericanism

      Unamericanism? Auf Deutschland? Surely not ;-)

    2. Re:Microsoft will be Furious.,...Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The company will then be accused of supporting terrorism and having al-queda training camps set up in parking lots after hours. Bin Laden wears a purple hat, cell leaders a green hat. Rookies wear red hats and fedoras. HA! I made another funnie!
      HA! I made another funnie!


      No. No you didn't.

    3. Re:Microsoft will be Furious.,...Maybe by hashwolf · · Score: 1

      "The company will then be accused of supporting terrorism and having al-queda training camps set up in parking lots after hours."

      Knowing McDonalds, you can only imagine the lengths they'll go to get meat for cheap!

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    4. Re:Microsoft will be Furious.,...Maybe by Zak3056 · · Score: 1

      Seriously though I doubt that the tillers at McD will be logging transactions at a bash prompt anytime soon.

      McD's runs SCO OpenServer on their POS terminals. So deep down inside of every cash register there already resides a bash prompt.

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  25. Hmm - tricky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    McDonalds - evil American monopolistic corporation forcing dubious farming practices and on the rest of the world and selling seriously unpleasant non-food. Linux - good. I'm confused; can an evil company be a good company if it switches to Linux? If so there is hope for Microsoft yet...

  26. Unix vs Windows by humankind · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's interesting that this has come about because I had a long discussion with a friend today who was ruminating over whether to pursue a career in IS related to Unix or Microsoft.

    A cursory glance of the job opportunities seemed to indicate to him that getting MCSE certification was a wiser move than going into the Unix arena. He asked me, "If unix is so much better, why are there more Microsoft-related jobs?" And is Unix the future or is this just a fad?

    I couldn't help but think that in my mind, Microsoft-based corporate IT setups are often more political than practical. Yes, you'll find more jobs with MCSE but it's not because there are necessarily more opportunities. It's because Microsoft-based tech people burn out more quickly, and often the companies they work for make politically-oriented tech decisions over what is practical and economical. It's almost like a litmus test for good corporate management these days. If a big company is using Unix, that's a sign they give their IT department substantive authority to pick the best tools for the job.

    It's nice to know more recognized companies are obviously asking the tech people what are the best tools available to accomplish the objective.

    So Microsoft or Unix? He continued to ask me.

    After some thought my resonse was, "If you want job security and choices, MCSE will give you that, but don't expect to ever get to a point where you have things under control. That's something Unix people encounter a lot more often. But one look at the stats, such as the fact that Microsoft has only 21% of the Internet web server market and shows no sign of de-throning Apache, reveals that Unix is anything but a fad. Why less Unix-based jobs? Probably because Unix admins are a happier lot and turnover in their area is nowhere near the massive burnout rate of MCSEs."

    So Micky-Ds in Germany is going Unix? This is less a sign of the corporation legitimizing Unix as it is likely that a number of key executives in that region have recognized that it might be a smart move to ask the IT people what are the best tools for the job.

    1. Re:Unix vs Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about average salary? I was under the impression that there's a difference between an MCSE and a Unix admin.

      I suppose telling him to research that might be a good thing.

      -cmh

    2. Re:Unix vs Windows by dduck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The answer is simple: Unix-related jobs are on the increase. Go with the growing market, rather than the mature one where competition is likely to be higher, and pay + security therefore lower.

    3. Re:Unix vs Windows by WhiteDeath · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think linux jobs are fewer because Linux admins, if doing things reasonably well, have less work to do for the same number of machines.

      My experience is that MS based installations require regular and repeditive attention. Linux however will generally sit there un-attended, without any need for any kind of attention for years.

    4. Re:Unix vs Windows by SenseiLeNoir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So Micky-Ds in Germany is going Unix? This is less a sign of the corporation legitimizing Unix as it is likely that a number of key executives in that region have recognized that it might be a smart move to ask the IT people what are the best tools for the job.


      Erm, the article doesnt say that McD's in Germany is not swtiching to unix. Considering they are a SCO customer, thatey have been using unix for a while now, and may already be using it in backend systems. The article states that they are moving to Linux in some areas, i think the causalty is not MS, but other Unix systems....

      so a win for Linuzx at the expense of other UNIX.

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    5. Re:Unix vs Windows by m00nun1t · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "It's because Microsoft-based tech people burn out more quickly, and often the companies they work for make politically-oriented tech decisions over what is practical and economical."

      Based on what? You're just making this up, right? And you get +5 for this....

    6. Re:Unix vs Windows by zymurgy_cat · · Score: 1

      That's something Unix people encounter a lot more often. But one look at the stats, such as the fact that Microsoft has only 21% of the Internet web server market and shows no sign of de-throning Apache, reveals that Unix is anything but a fad.

      Apache and UNIX are two different things. You could argue that Apache's position is proof that Apache or open source software is not a fad, but the logic does not work for UNIX. You'd be better off using something like the recent FreeBSD article about hosting sites to show that *nix derivatives/clones/Linux distros are not a fad.

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    7. Re:Unix vs Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      often the companies they work for make politically-oriented tech decisions over what is practical and economical.

      Allow me to wholeheartedly concur. I have been working for a Fortune 500 for the past few years, during which time we've been one of the fastest growing in the 500. Over that three years I have seen our tech decisions become dramatically more political, and have seen an accompanying shift from MS supported and all other OSs tolerated to MS is the only approved OS (client side - we use Linux or Solaris on many of the servers). The decision has been made for entirely non-technical reasons.

      Amusingly, I've simultaneously watched steady growth in the number of Linux client stations, and the two highest execs in the IT Software chain recently bought Mac laptops.

    8. Re:Unix vs Windows by normal_guy · · Score: 1
      Probably because Unix admins are a happier lot and turnover in their area is nowhere near the massive burnout rate of MCSEs.

      Which is to say that they get paid a hell of a lot more.

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    9. Re:Unix vs Windows by jtev · · Score: 1

      Paid more, work less, sounds like a good combination to me. What's this? I can run my hardware into the ground? That means less time wasted on setting things up. What else? Oh, once I set something up it doesn't need babysat, awesome. *gasp* you mean I tech my users how to use an application, and it works the way it's suposed to, without intervention every single time? How are they going to deal with that? Windows only has lower TCO if your downtime isn't worth anything.

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    10. Re:Unix vs Windows by normal_guy · · Score: 1

      My users have experienced almost no downtime in productivity apps (even with advanced Excel macros) and excellent uptime with Win2k3 servers running .NET apps on IIS/SQL. I've integrated with open source servers, and the only downtime has been the result of misconfiguration on the Linux/Apache end. Four nines on Windows, much less on Linux. All of that said, I'm posting this from a Linux box...I love it. But to totally write off Windows because it's closed-source and has a $500 license is closed-minded. Lower end administrators means the average small-to-mid-size office can afford an admin, instead of farming it out to a $125k/yr. Linux geek.

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    11. Re:Unix vs Windows by jtev · · Score: 1

      I saw this message after hours on end of fighting a fucked up MS Windows 98 install, I'm not going to delete the message right away so I can respond later when I am reasonable. Let's just say that if you already have the skillset for Linux, and you're a broke assed start up, MS Windows is not an option. Of course this is the sort of thing that applies when most of the software that does the heavy lifting for your LOB (in my case movie production) is available on Linux. Most of our people are using windows on the computers they already own, but for our first set of company owned computers (our render farm) it's realy not an option.

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    12. Re:Unix vs Windows by jtev · · Score: 1

      In my situation, Windows does not make sense. I have to work a 9-5 job to make ends meet and I'm starting a business. I need to get everything I can out of my hardware, not be crippled by licence audits, windows is wholy inadequite when you need minimum administration and maximum preformance. It's also not usable when you're broke, but still need to get systems running. So, for me the choice is baby sit an operating system that I find the interface to to be terible, that I don't understand the internals well enough to fix, and neither does anyone else, including MS, or I can use an utterly transparent system, with the ability to turn off any service I find unneccacary. HMMM. this is a tough one george.

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  27. So it is really true ... by foo23 · · Score: 1

    Linux Needs Diet That's why they normally say 'Don't feed the animals' in a zoo.

  28. McLinux? by veganopolis · · Score: 0

    I just wanted to coin that phrase before anyone else...

    1. Re:McLinux? by Myglaren · · Score: 1

      Bollox, so didI but you beat me to it.

  29. Reminds me of by mqRakkis · · Score: 5, Funny
    Reminds me of this bit in drivers/net/sunhme.c:
    static void happy_meal_tcvr_write(struct happy_meal *hp,
    unsigned long tregs, int reg,
    unsigned short value)
    {
    int tries = TCVR_WRITE_TRIES;

    ASD(("happy_meal_tcvr_write: reg=0x%02x value=%04x\n", reg, value));

    /* Welcome to Sun Microsystems, can I take your order please? */
    if (!(hp->happy_flags & HFLAG_FENABLE))
    return happy_meal_bb_write(hp, tregs, reg, value);

    /* Would you like fries with that? */
    hme_write32(hp, tregs + TCVR_FRAME,
    (FRAME_WRITE | (hp->paddr << 23) |
    ((reg & 0xff) << 18) | (value & 0xffff)));
    while (!(hme_read32(hp, tregs + TCVR_FRAME) & 0x10000) && --tries)
    udelay(20);

    /* Anything else? */
    if (!tries)
    printk(KERN_ERR "happy meal: Aieee, transceiver MIF write bolixed\n");

    /* Fifty-two cents is your change, have a nice day. */
    }
    1. Re:Reminds me of by fred87 · · Score: 2, Informative

      i just checked - that is actually a quote :S

    2. Re:Reminds me of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of a fatass coder with too much time on his hands.

    3. Re:Reminds me of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      heh. Dave weighs maybe 140 pounds soaking wet. And I doubt he has too much time on his hands; he works for Red Hat as one of the top networking people as well as maintaining sparc64 and working in several other kernel, gcc, and glibc areas.

      Really, the "Broken hardware, no extra charge!" one is better though.

    4. Re:Reminds me of by phrasebook · · Score: 2, Informative

      Reminds me how ugly C code is. *shudder*

    5. Re:Reminds me of by larien · · Score: 2, Informative

      For those that are unaware, Sun's HME interface is known as "Happy Meal Ethernet".

    6. Re:Reminds me of by ColaMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Windows: "The application encountered a problem and has to close. We apologise for the incovenience."

      Linux : "happy meal: Aieee, transceiver MIF write bolixed"

      Now come on, admit it. You'd use windows more if it gave out error messages like that. Even a simple "Ooops. We fucked up that last write operation rather badly. Sorry". Phrases like that just seem to convey a bit more feeling and sincerity than the dry corporate psuedo-regret that windows serves out.

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    7. Re:Reminds me of by wfberg · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Windows: "The application encountered a problem and has to close. We apologise for the incovenience."

      Linux : "happy meal: Aieee, transceiver MIF write bolixed"

      Now come on, admit it. You'd use windows more if it gave out error messages like that. Even a simple "Ooops. We fucked up that last write operation rather badly. Sorry". Phrases like that just seem to convey a bit more feeling and sincerity than the dry corporate psuedo-regret that windows serves out.


      Even better is that those "unprofessional" linux errormessages are pretty creative, and therefore pretty much unique to whatever problem you might be experiencing..

      "The application has encountered a problem" is as unspecific as you can get. What problem? Perhaps suppressed sexual anxiety relating to a childhood obsession with its mother, no?

      At least the linux error messages are googlable..

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    8. Re:Reminds me of by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Funny
      I got an error from FreeBSD the other day saying:
      ep0: 3c509 in test mode. Erase pencil mark!
      To my surprise, it actually did mean exactly what it said.
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    9. Re:Reminds me of by mrjb · · Score: 1

      Not just unspecific, also uninformative. That 'unprofessional' linux error message actually gave more feedback about the problem than many a Windows error message- it more or less *what* went wrong. For example, an error like "the page cannot be displayed". What is the URL of the page that cannot be displayed (is it the requested URL or the one we were redirected to by a http Location: header)? Did it even get to the point where the server tried to look for the page? Or perhaps DNS lookup failed? Or maybe the gateway/router is down? Or perhaps 80 is blocked? Or maybe our own firewall settings block all traffic from the requested domain? Quite a spectrum of different situations. Googleable or not, if an error message gives no more info than 'something went wrong', they are useless for troubleshooting. "The file cannot be found" is much more informative when it also mentions which file; if it is, for instance, a missing dll, at least we can install that dll.

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    10. Re:Reminds me of by 1010011010 · · Score: 1


      Imagine if it were done with C++ and STL... *shudder* ... perl syntax looks straightforward in comparison...

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    11. Re:Reminds me of by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 1

      I also get a kick out of such messages. However, they are far from an unmixed blessing. In particular, they do not ease the process of internationalizaion. Your typical non-native English speaker, even with the help of a dictionary, will probably have no idea of the meaning. Also, recognize that a generic "we have a problem" type message can be easily translated in comparison with a hundred quirky problem specific messages.

    12. Re:Reminds me of by swillden · · Score: 1

      Your typical non-native English speaker, even with the help of a dictionary, will probably have no idea of the meaning.

      That's okay, neither will your typical English speaker, so what difference does it make if it's translated?

      What matters is that the puzzled user, regardless of his/her native tongue, can easily copy the error message into a Google search field and get useful answers (often in his/her native language).

      Try googling the meaning of a generic "we have a problem" message.

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    13. Re:Reminds me of by dickrichardv8 · · Score: 1

      I liked the old Linux "printer on fire" error message. It was the only one I understood. :=)

  30. In other news by houghi · · Score: 1

    ... SCO tells the world McD will be running SCO, because they own Linux and the request for the X times $699 is already in the mail.

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  31. Does that mean... by Advocadus+Diaboli · · Score: 1

    ...that we can get SuSE-Linux CDs at McDonalds?

    Or that every SuSE box contains a card for getting a free BigMac at McDonalds? Well, maybe the thing has to be renamed to BigTux. :-)

  32. rtfa by marvin_pa · · Score: 1

    it also says: "Apache as web server and JRun or Tomcat enable the implementation of static HTML contents as well as dynamic Java-based applications without having to resort to overly large solutions. The utilized Oracle9i database is certified for SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server." and management of stock is core business for fast food restaurants.

    this sig is trying not to get too fat.

  33. Freedom by Princess+Firefly · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's sort of like reading about how linux is helping the US Military to more efficiently make weapons/train people to carry out their highly questionable "activities" worldwide. Yay, McDonald's will be able to exploit workers, wreak havoc on the environment, and serve sub-standard more efficiently and to make more money doing it. Hooray. Freedom is freedom and open is open but I'm not exactly gleeful about this news.

    1. Re:Freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And McDonalds flushing money down the toilet on bad software instead helps these exploited users...how exactly?

      Linux is a tool, and like other 'tools' (hammers, guns, knives) it's neutral.

    2. Re:Freedom by yarisbandit · · Score: 1

      >> to make more money doing it. But everybody knows the TCO of linux is higher than other comparable operating systems... ;)

    3. Re:Freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, shut up. Wait for your Workers Paradise quietly.

    4. Re:Freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well they may be all those things and worse, but at least they won't be SCO customers for much longer.

      Any high profile and monetarily successful business adopting linux is a good thing. How many PHB's at other companies will now demand linux because they saw a headline about this? It's all about the herd mentality.

  34. Politic move? by brainnolo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are they trying to switch their image of capitalism and globalization front of linux's fellows? No probably not. I mean, we aren't that much. Is just that Linux is pretty popular in Germany? Yeah we are near... even governament in some cities uses that, (what that Munich?) Oh damn i got it! They are trying to become a governative institution and establishing their headquarter in germany! Just genious! And will come the day when the hambugers will eat us! Beware the Majonnese of the Damn Burgers is closer and closer! Save your childs and your women! And if you were wondering, yes, i'm idiot.

  35. Mmm... Burgers... by Paster+Of+Muppets · · Score: 1

    Still, might be "interesting" to see how their burgers are made now...

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  36. ermmm.... by zlel · · Score: 2, Funny

    will their recipes now be open source?

    1. Re:ermmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      two all beef patties open source lettuce cheese pickles onions on a sesame seed bun

    2. Re:ermmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or even open sauce?

      Mmmmm, special source.....

  37. SOT: Re:Supersize me by maharg · · Score: 3, Interesting
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    @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
    1. Re:SOT: Re:Supersize me by ImpTech · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That seems a bit suspicious to me... they're comparing the "Caesar salad with Chicken Premiere" (which I've never eaten, but it sounds like its probably got a lot of stuff on it), to the standard cheesburger, which we all know is tiny. While I'd naturally question the healthiness of anything McDonalds puts on their menu, this sounds like some reporter digging for a story thats not really there.

  38. So torn... by Walkiry · · Score: 2, Funny

    The food is absolute shit, but they use Linux...

    Argh...

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  39. Mascot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would love to see a hybrid between Ronald McDonald and Tux as their mascot for the migration.

  40. kfc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I worked at kfc until I quit a few weeks ago. It's one of the newer stores in this area.
    The touch-screen registers we use there all run dos (with some kind of extensions of some sort)

    The system is very unreliable, although I'm not sure whether it's the programmers fault or the managers of the store (1D10T errors).

    We often lost orders between drivethrough windows, or the screen telling us what to pack would stop displaying any new orders, and we would have to get the person at the first window to yell the orders at us. Technology is wonderful.

  41. Talk about RTFA and grabbing for straws by melted · · Score: 1

    What's next? Novell will announce that I switched my home router from FreeBSD to Linux?

    1. Re:Talk about RTFA and grabbing for straws by brainnolo · · Score: 1

      If you could tell us the reasons and the improvements you obtained by switching to Linux, this can be the next story.
      P.S: You must have switched to SuSE and glorify it. If you didn't, we'll invent it.

    2. Re:Talk about RTFA and grabbing for straws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      June 11th, 2004 Novell, Inc.

      In another recognition of the continuing rise of Linux over other deployment platforms, Novell accounced today that Windows development powerhouse "melted" has switched the router infrastructure for their development labs from FreeBSD to Linux.

      About Novell
      Novell, Inc. (Nasdaq: NOVL) is a leading provider of information solutions that deliver secure identity management (Novell Nsure(TM)), Web application development (Novell exteNd(TM)) and cross-platform networking services (Novell Nterprise(TM)), all supported by strategic consulting and professional services (Novell NgageSM). Novell's vision of one Net - a world without information boundaries - helps customers realize the value of their information securely and economically. For more information, call Novell's Customer Response Center at (888) 321-4CRC (4272) or visit http://www.novell.com. Press should visit http://www.novell.com/pressroom.

      About SUSE LINUX
      Established in 1992, SUSE LINUX is one of the world's leading providers of Linux software and services. With the largest dedicated Linux research and development team, SUSE LINUX delivers enterprise-ready software and services that harness the innovation, speed-to-market and independence of the open source community. A privately held company based in Nrnberg, Germany, SUSE LINUX - together with global business partners - supports customers throughout the world.

      Novell, NetWare and Ximian are registered trademarks; eDirectory, exteNd, Nsure and Nterprise are trademarks; and Ngage is a service mark of Novell, Inc. in the United States and other countries. SUSE is a registered trademark of SUSE LINUX. *All third-party trademarks are the property of their respective owners.

      Press Contact:
      Bruce Lowry
      Novell, Inc.
      Phone: (415) 591-6523
      E-mail: blowry@novell.com

      Joseph Eckert
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      E-mail: jeckert@suse.com

  42. A much more interesting McDonald's related article by Granos · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is actually a much more interesting press release on the Novell website about NetWare and McDonald's Brazil. It is unclear whether or not Germany was running SCO Unix on the servers before the switch to Linux, but SCO is apparently not a worldwide McDonald's affiliate, as McDonald's Brazil has been running NetWare for 15 years. This article also gives much more information about the IT infrastructure of McDonald's, since the slashdot article just made me think "How many DNS, FTP, and Proxy servers can McDonald's Germany possibly have?". McDonald's Brazil, which is about the same size as McDonald's Germany, has 6 giant servers in different locations accross the country, and each one has a huge database for all of the information of each restaurant, plus the administrative information. You have to remember that a lot of the IT related stuff is for McDonald's huge corperate staff, not the people taking your order. The other interesting thing is that McDonald's is completely centralized, so if a server failure occurs, and the in-store machines can't connect with a central database, they apparently can't take orders or give receipts out at the actual restaurants.

  43. Do you want to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Susepersize that?

  44. Old news... by fred87 · · Score: 1

    http://www.suse.co.uk/en/company/customer_referenc es/mcd.html

    I read that page a week ago...

  45. Redundant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some idiot mod went around making a lot of things redundant that shouldn't be.

    Please fix them, and everyone metamoderate these comments up, to make sure that mod never mods again.

  46. Two Completely Unrelated Headlines by gowen · · Score: 5, Funny

    McDonald's Germany Moves to SuSE Linux

    and

    Is the Linux Desktop Getting Heavier and Slower?

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  47. I know /. is e geek place by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 3, Funny

    But stop calling McDonalds's quick & dirty energy salons "restaurants".

    It's like saying "the MS-DOS operating system". Clueless people like it that way and all others.... Oh forget it

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    1. Re:I know /. is e geek place by 10Ghz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Restaurant: A place where meals are served to the public.

      Pray tell, how does McD not fit that definition? Is the food crappy? yes it is. But it's still a restaurant.

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    2. Re:I know /. is e geek place by duffel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In the spirit of the parent,
      Operating System: Software designed to control the hardware of a specific data-processing system in order to allow users and application programs to make use of it.

      So, MS Dos IS an operating system. Is it crappy? yes it is. But it's still an operating system. ;-)

    3. Re:I know /. is e geek place by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      Where's the tautology in "McDonald's restaurant"?

    4. Re:I know /. is e geek place by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's wrong with saying "the MS-DOS operating system"? Sure if you wrote out the acronym it would appear redundant, but is MS-DOS not an operating system? And is its name not MS-DOS? I could understand arguing against "ATM machines" or "LCD displays", but MS-DOS is a name as much as it is an acronym, and as such you can use it in a "MS-DOS operating system" sort of way without and fear of sounding redundant. Except to nigglers such as yourself.

    5. Re:I know /. is e geek place by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      =~s/and fear/any fear/;

  48. if you havn't seen it already you should by hswerdfe · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    http://www.supersizeme.com

    I highly Recomend it and so do a lot of other people

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    1. Re:if you havn't seen it already you should by Daneurysm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not that I disagree...quite the opposite...but, just keep in mind that while the evil resides from far right, he comes in squarely on the far left....if you get what I'm saying....take everything he says with just as much salt (no pun intended) as that of his 'enemy'.

      Just stay balanced, that's all.

  49. Well, you know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The price of Freedom Fries is eternal vigilance

  50. Imagine a beowulf cluster of.... by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 5, Funny

    no, wait. I guess that's called a franchise.

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    1. Re:Imagine a beowulf cluster of.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now that was actually funny.

  51. In the other news... by jabapi · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... McDonald's announced their latest delicious product, McBride Meal.

    1. Re:In the other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Do you want a lawsuit with that?

    2. Re:In the other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Would you like lies with that?

    3. Re:In the other news... by dickrichardv8 · · Score: 1

      add: made with rustled beef from the McBride Ranch. "Darn them Linux thieves, they took our cows, Dad".

  52. McDonalds - good today? by caluml · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Funny how McDonalds is the epitomy of bad fattening food, environmentally unsound, and a nasty big corporation, but when they're switching to Linux they're OK.

    Why do people keep buying their food anyway? I have to assume that people forget how bad it us until a nice shiny advert comes along and convinces them how good it is. Those nice soggy floppy burgers. Hmm.

    1. Re:McDonalds - good today? by 10Ghz · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Funny how McDonalds is the epitomy of bad fattening food, environmentally unsound, and a nasty big corporation, but when they're switching to Linux they're OK.


      As far as their OS of choice is concerned: yes, they are OK. The food is still bad and they are a nasty big corporation. But what does that have to do with the subject at hand? We are not talking about the ethics or the quality of the food. we are talking about their choice of OS.
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    2. Re:McDonalds - good today? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Maybe they should use Windows XP rather than Linux. Just like the burgers, the XP desktop looks nowhere near as nice as it did in the adverts.

    3. Re:McDonalds - good today? by zsau · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have a friend who just about lives on Macca's. When he isn't eating or working there, he's thinking about it or driving twenty minutes to the nearest 24-hour McDonalds. However, he isn't fat. He's much fitter and healthier than I am. Why? He exercises. I don't know the full details but I know he competes in both both basketball and netball on Mondays during the season. McDonalds is accused of making people fat, but they don't. The customers' lifestyles make them fat. Eat what you need to, do the exercise you need to, then eat what you want to, and exercise it off and I promise you you won't be one of those annoying people who take up two seats on the bus... (Also, all the McDonalds round here sell salads and the like, so it's not like it's impossible to get a half-decent meal from them.)

      (Personally, I don't think McDonalds' food tastes all that bad. It isn't brilliant, no, and for preference I'd get a hamburger and chips from a fish and chips shop. But for something quick and reliable, it's certainly where I turn to.)

      Of course, this doesn't excuse Maccas from being an evil multinational.

      (Note: I come from Australia. It's my understanding that Maccas's menus varies around the world, and that many innovations in their menus come here very early on because of their comparative success in Australia. I suppose it's entirely possible that Mickey-D's in America or [colloquial name] in [your country] actually does have revolting crap food that consists of four-fifths fat, one-tenth sugar and one-tenth salt. My apologies if it is.)

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    4. Re:McDonalds - good today? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well one person I know who eats there does it because they are incredibly lazy when it comes to cooking. They need something to break up the monotony of Macaroni and Cheese and Chinese takeout.

      Also parents who can't say no eat there because their kids like Mc Burgers.

    5. Re:McDonalds - good today? by jabberjaw · · Score: 1

      Thin != healthy.

    6. Re:McDonalds - good today? by zsau · · Score: 1

      Didn't say he was thin though, did I? (He isn't.)

      But okay, I s'pose it's possible his liver's dying or something, but people always complain about Maccas making you fat, not killing your liver :)

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    7. Re:McDonalds - good today? by Zak3056 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why do people keep buying their food anyway?

      Habit and convenience.

      People go there because they've been going since they were children. There's a reason that the bulk of McD's advertising is directed at kids. Beyond that, McD's is everywhere--in the town of 20,000 where I live, we have four of them. If you don't want to cook, there's ALWAYS one on the way home.

      Personally, I avoid them and have been doing so for a couple of years. If I want to eat unhealthy (heh, and I DO eat unhealthy anyway) I'd much prefer it was something I cooked or, at the very least, somewhere with edible food.

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    8. Re:McDonalds - good today? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1
      I suppose it's entirely possible that Mickey-D's in America or [colloquial name] in [your country] actually does have revolting crap food that consists of four-fifths fat, one-tenth sugar and one-tenth salt.

      Nah, they're pretty much the same in the US as Australia, although my sample set of the latter is limited to a few stores in Perth. I'm with you - I really don't think it's that bad. Fine dining? No, but when I have 15 minutes to eat (or I'm in a town where I don't know any restaurants), it's always a safe fallback. Some of their food is actually really good, like their steak-egg-and-cheese breakfast bagels. I love those things.

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    9. Re:McDonalds - good today? by bludstone · · Score: 1

      Consider it taking money from the "enemy" for our own use :)

      Seriously though, their fries are still damn good. I dont touch ANYTHING else on the menu except the fries.

      And even then, thats an extremely rare treat.

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    10. Re:McDonalds - good today? by Senjutsu · · Score: 1

      Move to Linux == Good (insofar as it's always nice to see someone new adopt it), their other corporate practices == Bad.

      This isn't hard to grasp at all, unless your mindset demands an absolutely Black and White worldview.

    11. Re:McDonalds - good today? by Dirk+Pitt · · Score: 1
      I don't think it's his liver you necessarily have to worry about. I'd be more concerned about cardiovascular problems, i.e., arterial plaque. That much red meat and/or fried foods is deadly. The grease that all of these places use (mostly partially hydrogenated vegetable oil, with some animal fat mixed in for good measure) is laden with trans-fatty acids. These are the worst cancer-causing food agents known to man.

      I had a neighbor several years ago, union automotive employee, always on his feet doing heavy work, muscular and fit-looking. Had steaks and fries every night for dinner. *Every night*. Age 46, died in his sleep of a heart-attack. Complete blockages of several arteries. I'm not saying that example is scientific proof, but it gives you a pretty good idea. Burning off calories is only part of the total picture when it comes to health.

    12. Re:McDonalds - good today? by zsau · · Score: 1

      How can anyone have steaks and fries every night for dinner?? Wouldn't you get tired of it? I reckon he did and his taste buds said to his heart: 'I can't stand this any longer. If he won't change, you're going to have to stop beating'. And there was a conspiracy various other parts of his body were in to make it look like an accident, not a suicide, so they filled up his arteries. That's how it happened. Science be damned!

      (And McDonalds' have more than just red meat... I think my friend is partial to chicken, actually. And I exaggerated anyway.)

      But I spose you could well be right...

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    13. Re:McDonalds - good today? by swillden · · Score: 1

      Why do people keep buying their food anyway?

      In my experience... children. Whatever else McDonald's does poorly, they know how to please children. My kids love the food, the toys, the playplaces, even the characters.

      And, frankly, there are times that what makes the kids happy makes Dad happy. Particularly when Mom's away, the kids are rowdy and Dad needs to get some work done. I take them to McD's, get 'em their cheeseburger and McNugget Happy Meals and turn them loose in the playplace while I plug in the laptop, use the free WiFi and do some work (with occasional distractions to resolve an argument or keep them from climbing the up the outside of the tunnels).

      A couple of hours later, they're exhausted, I've made some progress and we can all go home so they can go to bed.

      And sometimes I'm lucky and they refuse to come out of the tunnels so I have to climb in there after them ;-)

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    14. Re:McDonalds - good today? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Why do people keep buying their food anyway?


      Im guessing its the same reason we order popcorn at movies, and eat potatoe chips at home. People care more about taste buds than how healthy their body is.
    15. Re:McDonalds - good today? by captapathy · · Score: 1
      I would highly recommend the book Fast Food Nation in order to see what motivates McDonald's and our other favorite franchise companies. Maybe this just proves that Linux is cheaper in the long run because they would switch to anything if it meant that they could:
      1. downsize
      2. dumb down their work force
      3. cut costs
      4. cut benefits to employees
      You would be amazed at how much influence they (and other chains) have had beyond the obese-ification of the world.
    16. Re:McDonalds - good today? by Dirk+Pitt · · Score: 1
      Yeah, sounds extreme, but this guy grew up very poor; his relatively cushy union job had him feeling he could perpetually enjoy the symbol of wealth from his childhood -- a side a beef.

      Maybe it was just his body quitting. The guy probably sweat A1 sauce. BTW -- I think McDonald's chicken is just the beef that's been bleached white. ;-)

    17. Re:McDonalds - good today? by Bull999999 · · Score: 1

      It same as patents being bad, unless Apple is the one who applies for them.

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    18. Re:McDonalds - good today? by dickrichardv8 · · Score: 1

      I remember the "hamburger wars" in the late 60's as a consumer. Prices of hamburgers got down to about 19 cents for some of the joints. (a place called "Quicks" for one. Every angle was tried, and you got choices of normal sized buns and a half dollar sized burger, bigger burgers but made from the leather. Your choice of condiments ranged from lettuce to mayo or nothing unless you put it on yourself at the counter. Some tasted like nothing and others tasted just bad. McDonald's burgers were small but not too small, and did have a taste of sorts and were priced in the middle. So I think they were a survivor in the "wars" because they had the best compromise as to what could be passed as food to the unwashed masses.

  53. little correction :-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    s/fast food/junk food/g

  54. So are they evil or not? by chegosaurus · · Score: 1

    his throws my whole spoon-fed, black and white Open Source = good, global coroporations = bad into complete confusion.

    Please, WILL SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT TO THINK?

  55. McDonald's is losing money by TheOtherAgentM · · Score: 1

    Didn't they report their first loss a few quarters back? This would still be a triumph for Linux in the real world, but it looks like a desperate attempt to make up for fixed costs. It's not necessarily that Linux is the best product, but rather that the product is the right price.

  56. ...and progress is progress. by Kjella · · Score: 1

    How does it in any way serve society if they all collectively not use the best and most efficient tool for the job? If we were still hand-crafting cars because otherwise it'd serve to exploit the low-paid and extremely replacable factory line workers?

    Being more efficient at what we do is what makes the world as a whole richer. Money is never "lost" in a society, it changes hands but never vanishes. Sometimes (actually, most of the time) the distribution isn't fair but that's no reason to stop improving the productivity/cost ratio.

    Kjella

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  57. German Word of the day is :- Schadenfreude by eeyore · · Score: 1

    Taking joy from the misfortune of others. A universal human hobby.

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  58. sounds like an oxymoron by quadrocerebra · · Score: 1

    mc'donalds and linux it is like the symbol of capitalism meeting the symbol of non-capitalism. weird match

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    1. Re:sounds like an oxymoron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you don't make money by throwing it away (on proprietary software)

  59. It's so confusing... by bcmm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm all confused now...
    MacDonald's is meant to be evil...

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    1. Re:It's so confusing... by Nerd+With+Nalgene · · Score: 1

      Dude if you're going to try to google bomb 'http' (I don't know why you'd want to anyway) at least link it to www.w3.org instead of just http://w3.org, because the one with the www is what shows up near the top in a google search already.

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  60. Would you like r00t with that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gotta say it!

  61. Worm-proofing the meat? by IrishMist · · Score: 1

    Maybe this is a plan to squash those pesky rumors that McDs puts worm meat in their burgers.

  62. Don't call it 'restaurants" ... please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Call it "eatodromes" instead.

  63. Re:A much more interesting McDonald's related arti by awol · · Score: 1

    so if a server failure occurs, and the in-store machines can't connect with a central database, they apparently can't take orders or give receipts out at the actual restaurants

    That is so remarkably unlikely that I think it must be wrong. I can state categorically that even with electronic POS systems, stores of 10 years ago did not require access to any server to sell product. And it is the selling of product that the evil McEmpire has down pat. They simply would let "storing data" get in the way of "sellin' product". so I doubt they would have POS registers (note the P, and the S) dependent on a wide area network to function.

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  64. Now that McDonald's is going open source by Gary+Destruction · · Score: 3, Funny

    Will we finally find out what the secret recipe for Big Mac sauce is?

    1. Re:Now that McDonald's is going open source by dmaxwell · · Score: 1

      Will we finally find out what the secret recipe for Big Mac sauce is?

      It's Thousand Island salad dressing.

    2. Re:Now that McDonald's is going open source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that's open S-O-U-R-C-E, not S-A-U-C-E. :D

    3. Re:Now that McDonald's is going open source by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This isn't funny at all for a gastro geek.

      With a buddy of mine I once tried imitating McDonald's sauce and we actually got pretty near to the McDonald taste.

      I noticed that the taste of the fresh herbs (basil was an important ingredient) we used wore after a while. That means, McDonald's way of stabilizing the taste is very likely well studied and they deserve credit for that.

      We went on and we "discovered" that almost any mayonnaise based sauce with fresh herbs can be brought to a decent taste. If you stick with it and study it further, you are most likely to get a much better tasting sauce but with a lower taste ware half-time than McDonald's.

      You also might discover that the main ingredient in McDonald's sauce is the big trivial secret around it.

      Then again, in my two visits to north America I got the definite impression that north Americans see food as a resource and put less emphasis on taste and enjoyment. So if you are north American you probably won't discover anything.

      I once baked an Italian home made pizza ( yes, I am Italian and I have been a very decent professional pizza baker when I was studying. I take food more serious than most /.-ers ) for my sister in law in Canada. Man the thing came steaming out of the oven but she fancied anyway a quick microwave "ZAP" to get it to the right point. I have never ever been more astonished in my whole life.

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    4. Re:Now that McDonald's is going open source by mbbac · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows that McDonald's special sauce is Thousand Island dressing.

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    5. Re:Now that McDonald's is going open source by Alexis+de+Torquemada · · Score: 1

      You can already have Open Cola. It's GPL'ed, so if you buy a bottle from a local retailer, be sure to ask for the source code. :))

  65. no subway... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually.. ..my understanding is that subway is now the largest fast food chain.
    Why else would mcdonalds be trying to say they are healthy, they are loosing customers.
    Anyone got any links to back this up.
    Greg

    1. Re:no subway... by infiniti99 · · Score: 1

      Actually.. ..my understanding is that subway is now the largest fast food chain.

      On a side note, does Subway count as "fast food" ? Certainly they serve the food quickly, but you can hardly put them in the same category as McDonald's, Burger King, Taco Bell, etc. "Fast food" is less about speed and more about food preparation and other business practices. Wikipedia has more details. Personally, to avoid confusion, I tend to refer to Subway, Quizno's, Baja Fresh, etc as "quick food", for lack of a better term, instead of fast food. This indicates that the service is speedy without the implication that the food is crap.

  66. Dbl Qrt Pndr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It'd be nice if McDonalds would open source the Double Quarter Pounder, that burger rocks...

  67. No big deal by arvindn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Linux deployments on the server stopped being news years ago. If we see some movement on enterprise desktops, that'd be worthy of the /. frontpage.

  68. Linux meets fast food by Coupier · · Score: 0

    MMmmm, Tux Burgers.

  69. Norwegian Postal Service too by Dionysus · · Score: 3, Informative

    Seems like lots of European companies are moving over. Norwegian Postal Service is moving to Linux from Windows on the desktop.

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    1. Re:Norwegian Postal Service too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      In England, postman never used windows, modern folks have leterboxes!

    2. Re:Norwegian Postal Service too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Short summary:

      They are using old Windows PCs as thin clients connecting to a Windows terminal server.

      The user sees Windows.

      It's not a complete change-over to Linux just yet, but they're squeezing more life out of "old" hardware.

      They will look at adopting Linux in other areas of the Postal Service this fall.

    3. Re:Norwegian Postal Service too by zarr · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, they've been using thin Citrix clients, and this is just a small test project to see if they can use PXES Universal Linux Thin Client instead. The users will still see a Windows desktop. One of the reasons they're doing this, is to be able to use really old hardware, like 90MHz Pentium PCs. I guess not all distributions are getting fatter and slower

  70. Quality of food by NoSuchGuy · · Score: 1


    The use of Linux does not change a thing on the quality of food served by McDonalds!

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  71. McShell? by Alosja · · Score: 1

    Could i get a free shell along with my hamburger?

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  72. Let's all eat McDonald tonight. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lets all make a statement and go to our local McDonalds and order a bigmac. If enough people do this it will be visible in their economy system. We will slashdot MdDonalds.

  73. not suse... by dai · · Score: 1

    but sco according to sco!? http://www.thescogroup.com/company/success/story.h tml?ID=9

  74. Another little correction :-) by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Funny

    s/food//g

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  75. Educational services. by mshiltonj · · Score: 4, Funny

    McDonald's is the undisputed market leader in the fast food sector.

    This is why I like slashdot. It's so educational.

  76. When management said they were cutting fat... by ta+bu+shi+da+yu · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... I think they were talking about the burgers, not the corporate IT budget!

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  77. Isn't it ironic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't you think? http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=7324

  78. I always thought by Vitus+Wagner · · Score: 3, Funny

    I always thought that McDonalds is much like Microsoft - produces completely unedible product, but is obvois market leader and is known to everone.

    1. Re:I always thought by m1chael · · Score: 0

      I'm waiting for those Alah Burgers from MacMecca's.

      Note: Anyone who knows of Mecca-Cola or Qibla-Cola might find this humourous. Otherwise Alah will s-mite thee!

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    2. Re:I always thought by KD5YPT · · Score: 1

      GO up to them and say... "YO, I want some pork burger! rare!"

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  79. Serve them to fat clients by danormsby · · Score: 5, Funny

    Guess they'll be doing a complete install at every McDonald's as they love fat clients.

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    1. Re:Serve them to fat clients by kkirk007 · · Score: 1

      I, for one, welcome our new supersized overlords!

  80. Penguin tastes like chicken by ColourlessGreenIdeas · · Score: 1

    McDonald's burgers taste like cardboard and sugar.

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    1. Re:Penguin tastes like chicken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But tnx to standardization, we can eat the same crap here in Croatia! -- http://www.fuuny.tk

  81. YUM? But that's Yellow Dog Linux - not SuSE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YUM? But that's Yellow Dog Linux - not SuSE

  82. Re:Your mom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How's this flamebait? What have you got against smoking? Or is it just that when you do smoke, you prefer crack?

  83. Micros (not Microsoft) by gatkinso · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Don't kwow about Europe, but MacD's USA is a big customer of Micros - they make POS terminals and the "backstore/office" hardware to support it.

    I interviewed there once - they seemed to have SCO Unix and NT based systems.... atleast in the dept that I interviewed in.

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    1. Re:Micros (not Microsoft) by Kiaser+Zohsay · · Score: 1

      Late 80's to early 90's corprate-owned stores had Xenix 386 machines for management functions. POS was proprietary but linked to the xenix box by coax ethernet (this was a *long* time ago).

      Franchise-owned stores had a lot of leeway in selecting their own equipment, and were usually more cost-concious (ie low-end). They should be all over Linux if only for the free-as-in-beer aspect.

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  84. Now the lawsuits by kpogoda · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess SCO will have to sue them now.

  85. They said... by m1chael · · Score: 0

    They said they were going to cut the fat from their products. They just didn't say where from.

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  86. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 0

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  87. kudos to suse, who rocks ronald? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    whoreabull fat/disease peddler that he is.

    there's still nothing nice to say about the softwar gangsters, whoare failing miserabully in their international hostage takings.

    wall street felons, wwworld's biggest scamsters.

    much more damage done than some clogged mail servers.

    still testing robbIE's fauxking pateNTdead PostBlock devise. pheWWW!@#$%

  88. Soon no-one will be able to deny... by resprung · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...that Linux is getting bloated

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  89. Tell Laura DiDio(t) to bite this one. by LazloToth · · Score: 1

    "Thomas Trepl (McDonald's Germany) says, "All in all, an enormous stability and availability is clearly evident." Do you suppose more "wholesale adoption of Linux" could be coming? Heh heh.

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    1. Re:Tell Laura DiDio(t) to bite this one. by KD5YPT · · Score: 1

      Um... sorry for the ignorance, but who is Laura Didio(t) ??

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    2. Re:Tell Laura DiDio(t) to bite this one. by LazloToth · · Score: 1


      DiDio is an "analyst" for the Yankee Group, a supposed think tank that looks at various corporate computing trends. She's famous for saying that Linux costs more to deploy and maintain than Windows, and that Linux will never achieve widespread deployment, and on and on. She was quick to jump on the SCO defense bandwagon. A real MS ho who seems to be well compensated by somone out there. Gets a lot of space in the CIO/management rags.

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  90. Fast Food Leader? Not in Canada. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With more than 30,000 restaurants around the globe and more than 1,200 in Germany alone, McDonald's is the undisputed market leader in the fast food sector.

    Not in Canada. As any Canadian would be able to tell you, Tim Horton's (a doughnut chain) now has more locations than McDonald's does.

    I think they passwed a law that you cannot drive more than 5 minutes without finding a Tim Horton's.

    Other trivia: Tim Horton's is Canada's largest retailer of bagels.

    1. Re:Fast Food Leader? Not in Canada. by KD5YPT · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hm... not sure about Tim Horton... but I don't think Tim Horton's doghnut chain is a global leader in fast food sector. McDonald will have to take the gold for having dominance in the global fast food sector.

      On a side note, there are more Seven-Eleven in Taiwan then McDonalds.

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    2. Re:Fast Food Leader? Not in Canada. by polyp2000 · · Score: 1

      Phew !!! I got worried their I thought you meant Ivor Horton" I dont fancy sampling his doughnuts I can tell you!

      nick ...

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    3. Re:Fast Food Leader? Not in Canada. by thomasdelbert · · Score: 1

      McDonald's is number two in Canada, Tim Hortons leads in number of locations and in revenue, and Tim Horton's is growing faster -- but its failure to lead the market in Canada is nothing compared to Philipines. In Philipines the biggest chain is called Jollibee's - which entered the filipino market at the same time as McDonald's, charges much more for their burgers, yet sells three times as much.

      - Thomas;

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  91. In your basement and your dreams yes. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 2, Informative

    In real corporate environments no, specially ftp that would compromise the other two.

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  92. Re:A much more interesting McDonald's related arti by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I don't know much about the systems in Brazil, but I can state with certainty that the recommended US POS system does not require any sort of WAN to function. Most stores' only connectivity is a dial-up modem connected to their back-office computer.

    In fact, you could cut every single network cable in a US McDonald's restaurant and they would still be able to sell hamburgers, albiet with limited functionality in many respects.

  93. You insensitive clod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You just increased SCO's pagerank with keywords "success story"!

    Tell me, were you smoking something?

    1. Re:You insensitive clod! by akadruid · · Score: 3, Funny
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    2. Re:You insensitive clod! by festers · · Score: 1

      The best part about those links is that we actually made a difference. :D

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  94. What is the point of these topics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    OMG JOE BLOW SWITCHED TO LINUX MAKE A POST ON SLASHDOT

    How come no stories about companies switching to Mac OSX or even the dreaded Windows?

    I wonder how quick this post will get a -1

  95. How many servers? by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    If they are savvy they should have at least 6, 2 for each service, in separate locations for resilience.

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  96. Their supplier? by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... and I suppose freshmeat.net will supply them with the meat?

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    1. Re:Their supplier? by mr_Spook · · Score: 1

      Uh, have you *BEEN* to McDonald's? I wouldn't call any meat from there "fresh" ever...

  97. Coop? COUP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bloody hell... chickens breaking out from behind the wire and staging a revolution...

  98. Oh please. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    You have to be really be a nasty nitpicker to convolute so much good news.

    Surely you have never done something good given the fact that you are an evildoer (or at least the evidence of your posting would suggest that).

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    1. Re:Oh please. by caluml · · Score: 1
      Surely you have never done something good given the fact that you are an evildoer (or at least the evidence of your posting would suggest that).

      Quiet, infidel. What is this evidence that you speak of anyway? My last 24 posts?

  99. NO. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    You have your own brain I pressume, drawyour own conclusions....

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    1. Re:NO. by chegosaurus · · Score: 1

      I'll just wait and see what Linus thinks, and agree with that.

  100. ugh... by TouchOfRed · · Score: 0

    as if mc donalds food wasnt bloated enough. This isnt really new news though, MC'D's has been on the list of companies that use suse for ages now..

  101. Great news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this is great news - now if the u.s. can follow suit
    (no pun intended)

    hey isn't mcdonalds strictly a sco shop

    oh - nevermind

  102. Does this mean... by Handover+Slashdot · · Score: 4, Funny

    That Suse will now look fresh and tasty on the box, but the actual product you get will be sort of stale, brown and wilted?

    I seem to recall Michael Douglas going ballistic over this in a movie once...

  103. The real reason is a reduction in admin costs... by ayjay29 · · Score: 1

    The real reaon they are doing it is to reduce costs.

    1 The main expense with the system will be admin costs.

    2 After the tech slump there are loads of unix admins working at McDonnalds earning minimum wage.

    3 Take a guess...

    4 Porfit!

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  104. McDonald's by dolo666 · · Score: 1

    We now need a McDonald's topic, as they have adopted the lovable penguin.

  105. Undisputed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're not undisputed in the fast food sector, they are definitely the leader in the burger biz though. Yum! Brands, Inc. has about 33,000 restaurants and is growing quickly. McDonald's doesn't have anywhere to grow significantly, while Yum! and its five brands do.

  106. With the money they save... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    maybe they can make their food edible.

  107. SCO ? Watch this space ? by polyp2000 · · Score: 1

    Well, thats really going to piss Darl off isnt it ? Having just announced "major product wins" with MacDonalds in his quartlerly statement... Woo Hoo !

    nick ...

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  108. This is not news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    McDonald's Germany deploys SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server for DNS, FTP, and proxy services on the Internet.
    ...
    Thomas Trepl says, "All in all, an enormous stability and availability is clearly evident. The implementation of SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server has resulted in uptimes of more than 400 days - interrupted only due to extensions on the hardware side.
    This isn't about McD's replacing SCO or anything else. No where does it say they are moving their POS or any other business system to Linux. It's just a marketing blurb about how they are (and have been for at least the last 400 days) using Linux for their ftp & proxy servers. Big deal...move along people.
  109. Bad move. by Stupid+Dog · · Score: 2, Funny

    They should have bought Apple's servers. Lots of big macintoshs. Miam.

  110. Kroc spanks McBride "No Happy Meal for you!" by Chas · · Score: 1

    "It would be far more suicidal of SCO to go after a current customer who provides them with a very large portion of there OS revenue"

    I remember reading, somewhere, that if McDonalds wasn't THE largest installed base of SCO Unix out there, it's one of the largest.

    McBride and company have already shown stupidity of cataclysmic proportions. However, I don't think they're quite dumb enough to alienate one of the largest segments of their customers over something that could be construed as a "test migration".

    McDonalds dropping their contract as a punitive measure to a lawsuit would probably be more than enough to tank SCO on the spot.

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  111. Would you like source with that? by ewg · · Score: 1

    "Would you like source with that?!"

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  112. Covert protectionism: SuSE is German too by gelfling · · Score: 1

    Sounds like covert protectionism doesn't it? Get German businesses to run German software with German support contracts. I mean with 11.5% chronic unemployment somebody's got to find work for the tape monkeys, no?

    1. Re:Covert protectionism: SuSE is German too by BCW2 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Novell isn't German and they bought SUSE last year.

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  113. mput fries /mouth by Chas · · Score: 1

    No? No fries?

    del fries

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  114. Open Source by cd_serek · · Score: 2, Funny

    It also makes one wonder, if they are going to move their burger ingredients to "open source" by revealing the contents of the foods...

  115. Now, now. by LazloToth · · Score: 1


    Don't sell us short here in North America. Some of us make our own dough, cook on flatstones, and keep herb gardens. Do I make EVERY pizza fresh at home? No, but it's about having - - or making - - the time to enjoy the process as much as the product. I will grant you, though, that Euro folk seem a little ahead of us in the respect that they see more to life than "getting ahead" at work. Even so, on a recent visit to Aix, I noticed that the HUGE McDonald's was full of happy local folk. They clearly know what a Mac Attack is these days.

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  116. German joke: by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    "Jetzt gibt's dann auch bei McDonalds wieder das Sparmenü. Das kann man sich dann sparen."

    Translates to something like:

    "Now McDonalds will have the Save-Menu again. That you can save yourself then."

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  117. Won't even be able to use their own Big Mac songs by adzoox · · Score: 1

    I bought a big Mac yesterday to get one of the Sony Connect Songs. I noticed on the specs that it requires Windows ME/2000/XP - no Mac or Linux Support

    At least in the Pepsi promotion - the songs worked on all three major platforms (Linux with a little hack)

    I find it very ironic that a Big Mac with a song doesn't work on a Mac at all. The Sony Connect Store doesn't function properly under Virtual PC either.

    So, the Sonny Connect songs won't be able to play on the machines the Germans just bought unless they boot into Windows.

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  118. Pick Any Two by hoggoth · · Score: 1

    > McDonald's burgers. Not meaty enough for carnivores. Not meatless enough for vegetarians. Why do people eat them? Oh yeah, fast and cheap.

    Fast, Cheap, Non-toxic.
    Pick any Two.

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  119. As McDonalds said to SCO.. by the_rajah · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Would you like salt with that wound, Mr. McBride?"

    Disclaimer: I'm not claiming that as an original quote on my part. Saw it on another forum and ROTFLMAO

    "Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Mark Twain

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  120. Penguins don't taste good by mangu · · Score: 3, Funny

    No bird that eats fish has meat worth eating by humans. There's a short story, by Jack London, IIRC, on a seagull recipe. It starts with a long list of ingredients and preparation steps, and ends with something like "...then throw it all away and get something else to eat. Nothing tastes as bad as seagull".

  121. About as much as... by nonameisgood · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It costs to ship bubble wrap (think mostly air) from China to Home Depot. I hope they keep the SARS-contaminated air to themselves. How can this be a good idea.

    Back on topic: I had told my wife some time ago that once McDonalds jumped the SCO ship, it would sink. Silly me, I thought MS had positioned themselves to grab McD's business.

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    Faith is the very antithesis of reason, injudiciousness a critical component of spiritual devotion. Jon Krakauer
  122. Fun for everyone! by SphericalCrusher · · Score: 1

    I say to celebrate, they strike a promotion deal where they give away the SuSE lizards, Tux, and action figures of Jack Messman in their happy meals!

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    "Instant gratification takes too long." - Carrie Fisher
  123. Are they switching servers or terminals (or both)? by Laebshade · · Score: 2, Informative

    Most McDonald's have the following setup (in the US AFAIK, yes I used to work for McDonald's): 2 servers, 1 for serving the terminals, 1 for the private-eye system (to control the average of 23 cameras in a store). The terminals (the "ordering" terminals) all use MS-DOS embedded.

    The main reason for this is: the terminals connect to server 1 to retrieve information, mostly screen layout, what server(s) to send information to (orders taken, etc.). MS-DOS is used because the power can be cut off/on with minimal startup/shutdown times. The terminal server also has access to reboot the terminals themselves. The terminals are completely dependant on the terminal server to run correctly.

    Some of the terminals aren't completely dumb terminals (some have hard drives), and of course there are specialized terminals. In a dual-booth (front drive thru and back drive thru as we call it) there are 2 terminals in each booth. In front drive thru there is a monitor that shows orders. The terminals can change functions, too: can be a cashier, order-taker, or both at once.

    So back to the topic: are they switching the server, terminals, or both? The server I can see, but the terminals would be a bit harder.

    Are they even switching the in-store system? I doubt it (as parent poster said). The current system works and is pretty stable. So... my whole post is moot. Good day.

  124. Re:A much more interesting McDonald's related arti by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I might have to get an account for this purpose.

    I know that McDonald's Canada does not use a 'central server' for the POS systems in the stores.

    I worked for one franchisee in 3 of his stores, and another in 4 of his stores. In both these cases, the POS server was in the store. The only time a central server in the main franchisee office was brought into the picutre was late at night when everyone had gone home, for paperwork purposes only.

    Since each store can offer a slightly different menu, and each store can use a different POS terminal. Local POS server makes more sense to me.

  125. Poor Pizza Hut? by Laebshade · · Score: 1
    He does make money on his paycheck, just not as much as regularly hourly wage employees for Pizza Hut. At the very least he makes minimum wage (always, required by law). Say he starts out at $3.00. Yes, that's below minimium wage, but he does earn tips. Now if he earns up to or over minimum wage, Pizza Hut doesn't have to pay anything. But if he doesn't earn at least minimum wage with tips, Pizza Hut has to cover the rest to bring it up to minimium wage.
    and hire enough people to do the job
    You don't understand how Pizza Hut works (or any other fast-food place, though some would argue that Pizza Hut isn't fast food). If they get less business, they have to cut hours. There are only so many people that can be "cut" in slow times. Store managers are required to meet a certain hours/sales ratio at any cost (even if they have to be the only one there, I've seen this only one time). This requirement comes from at least the regional supervisor, though probably higher.
    1. Re:Poor Pizza Hut? by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      After several years managing Pizza Huts, and as the son of a Pizza Hut manager, I think I DO understand how it works, all to well.
      I very familiar with how the staffing grid works, what labor percentages are expected, and crew deployement. labour scheduling, sales forcasting, and so on.
      I fully understand the need to ballance out overhead such as labor against the income, in fact I've seen the many of the raw numbers on a nightly basis for several years untill quite recently.
      The simple fact is there is a MINUM number of people to have on staff during a dinner rush over $x per hour or you CANNOT make enough food fast enough to feed your customers.
      I've often worked day shifts with just me and a driver and had NO problem because sales were low enough we could handle it. (typically a monday or tuesday). Now in a delco (this is a delivery/carryout only store) you have an absolute minimum of one manager and one driver in order to be fully open for bussiness (it's a firing offence for the manager on duty, when he's the only manager present,to leave the store in most cases, he most certainly can't take deliveries without very special cercumstances and area coach aproval).
      The reason I left after years there is they cut the labor percentages below the minimum necessary to keep the store open for bussiness and still expected us to stay open WITOUT customer service falling or complaints. In a delco with 6 incomming lines One manager and two cooks cannot run a $600/35+ order hour, it's simply not possible, yet that is exactly what they were expecting. With the help of the drivers spending a few minutes inside between each run (I Had a GREAT crew, really good people by most measures) we managed on many occasions to survive, but with crappy customer service, 1.5 hour delivery times, up to 10 min on hold, and too many mistakes. I got sick of being yelled at by customer who were rightly angry at our service, many of whom I used to enjoy see-ing or hearing on the phone. Of my driver staff getting poorer and poorer tips because of all the time they had to waste inside they should have spent delivering, of inside staff stressing out and in the case of some quiting.
      And there quite simply was no need to cut labor like that. They had already raised prices. Thier food costs had gone up less than the increased prices covered. The only reason was to fund thier parent corp (Yum brand foods, formerly Tri-Con) buying out two more chains.
      And you say there are only so many people than can be cut during slow times?, Well here I do agree with you, however pizza feels differently.
      Trust me I know Pizza Hut FAR better than I care to admit most days. You might as well tell an Alaskan nudist they don't understand cold.

      Mycroft

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  126. Realistically, folks.. by rkhalloran · · Score: 4, Insightful

    McD's could give a rat's rump about the SCO case as such, but their IT department has to see The Writing on The Wall: that the vendor for the back-end software in their thousands of franchises is crashing. There's already an injunction in place in Germany against SCO making claims against Linux, and using SuSE gives it a 'local vendor' bonus there, so it's an easy choice for a proving ground.

    If this works, with the Novell deal now giving them a US support base, they have a potential migration path out of a failing vendor. Whether they wait for SCO to crater or just move ahead and dare SCO to bring suit on their largest customer remains to be seen.

  127. SCO @ DaimlerChrysler... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know for a fact that some of DaimlerChrysler's SCO systems weren't phased out until this past January, and in at least one case (a dealership for whom I do contract admin work) there's an IBM Netfinity running SCO UnixWare that's happily chugging along in a back room off of the Parts Department.

    The Netfinity was part of the DIAL system, which the dealership used to track and record repairs and recall information, along with other data that had been getting sent back to the corporate HQ on a regular basis. And though it's been phased out in favor of a web-based application, there's still legacy data stored locally that the warantee manager needs to access. Hence, the Netfinity is still up and running.

  128. Two Words by Garabito · · Score: 1

    Soybean meat

    I heard it was 50% ground beef, 50% soybean, but I am not sure

  129. Nomenclature by Angst+Badger · · Score: 1

    With more than 30,000 restaurants around the globe and more than 1,200 in Germany alone, McDonald's is the undisputed market leader in the fast food sector.

    You know, until I saw this, I never consciously realized that I had never, ever thought of McDonald's locations as restaurants. I think the proper term here is joint.

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    Proud member of the Weirdo-American community.
    1. Re:Nomenclature by maduro55 · · Score: 1

      nah, you smoke joints

  130. Fallacies of job hunting by mcrbids · · Score: 1

    It's interesting that this has come about because I had a long discussion with a friend today who was ruminating over whether to pursue a career in IS related to Unix or Microsoft.

    As a *nix developer and system administrator, I have 5 major positions I play in (on an out-sourced basis) regularly.

    All pay well. All entail my knowledge of Linux. None were obtained by anything anywhere related to a "job board". Job boards are the tripe positions - the "it doesn't matter as long as your body temp is close to 98.6F" positions. Go to a job board or employment agency, and you'll find jobs where qualifications are given lip service, and your primary requirement for employment is being warm and still breathing.

    Will you experience appreciation in such a position? Hardly.

    Real jobs are filled when two executives talk idly in the golf cart on the way to hole #7. Real jobs are filled in the restaurant or bar after the trade convention. Real jobs are filled when two executive friends talk to each other on a Tuesday night.

    What are real jobs? The ones that matter - where you'll work hard, get paid very well, and be lavished with appreciation and company ownership.

    In order to get these real jobs, you have to be somebody everybody trusts. Be very, very, VERY good at what you do, and let everybody know it without bragging, but with results. Develop relationships with those that need people with your skills.

    When push comes to shove, the real jobs get filled by referrals from powerful people who trust you, and almost never from a job board. Be that person trusted by powerful people, and the real jobs flow.

    Oh, and in my experience, the real jobs are not to be found administering Windows boxen - which is why the "warm body" job boards are littered with MCSE requirements... but a Unix/Linux position tends to be held for years by people nobody really wants to piss off...

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    1. Re:Fallacies of job hunting by humankind · · Score: 1

      I completely agree with you.

      It's really amazing how loyalty is underrated in corporate society, but in the Unix realm, admins tend to get things done instead of make excuses. It's a great field to prove yourself.

      I simply cannot imagine how I could offer my customers the same security and guarantee that things would get done using Microsoft products. I'm not meaning to be anti-Microsoft. I just don't see how I could do so when there's the ever-looming fear that the next service pack to solve one problem doesn't create three more.

  131. Been There by Psymunn · · Score: 1

    Yeah,my exgirlfriend visited 100% beef when she was backpacking there.
    It's a farm on the north west coast of australia.

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  132. No the real question is... by Psymunn · · Score: 1

    ...are they going to open source their food?!?

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  133. Slightly OT, but continuing the same vein by Serzen · · Score: 1

    Actually, coup is the French word that means, roughly, "to strike, or to hit". Coup d'etat is the most commonly seen use of it for most Americans, and so a coup is just that to most. But there is also a coup de main, a blow of the hand (punch), coup de pied, a blow from the foot (kick), etc, etc, etc.

    1. Re:Slightly OT, but continuing the same vein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While coup de main does seem like it ought to mean punch, as coup de pied does mean kick, actually coup de main is mostly used these days in the phrase donne moi un coup de main or similar, which means, "give me a hand". It could be roughly described as help or aid, especially where physical strength is involved -- lifting something, etc. To punch someone is un coup de poing, literally "a hit of fist".

      Yes, I am french.

  134. Linux in McDonalds ? by moro_666 · · Score: 3, Funny

    wow, i can already imagine

    kid : "Hey dad, what's that wierd thing in my burger instead of normal beef ?"
    dad: "It's tux, a penguin, the linux mascott, and we will have to eat it now cause it's cheaper and more reliable and is licenced under GPL, make sure you publish it later after you have altered it."

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  135. Hey Franky... by smarty_bones · · Score: 1

    Geeko reminds me of the Budweiser lizards.

  136. Re:A much more interesting McDonald's related arti by normal_guy · · Score: 1

    It is entirely wrong. My experience was that of a once-nightly dialup to corporate accounting after everything had been gone over on the local system.

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    Linux: Free if your time is worthless.
  137. Linux at McDonalds by ptelligence · · Score: 1

    Hmmmm... so that's why the Linux desktops are getting so bloated.

  138. Or more likely by Psymunn · · Score: 1

    Maybe McDonalds will buy SCO. Honestly, at some point, what with the companies dropping cost, it will probably be cheaper for them just to own SCO rather then migrate to Linux.

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  139. Can I take your order? by The+Hobo · · Score: 2, Funny

    New commands at the drive through:

    Kill Cow
    hash Meat
    Mk Burger
    Mount Burger
    srv Burger

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  140. Perfect way to put Microsoft out of business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This *could* be the perfect way to finally beat MS at their own game. All Mcdonalds would have to do....

    Include SuSE installation CD's in every happy meal!

  141. SCO? by Door-opening+Fascist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Do you suppose McDonald's got cold feet after all the crap SCO's been pulling? IIRC, McDonald's used to be one of SCO's biggest customers.

  142. Where's the beef? In the fries, of course by captapathy · · Score: 1

    Their fries are flavored with beef artificial flavoring.

  143. Re:Reservoir Dog by Phiu-x · · Score: 0

    Remind me of the intro of this cult movie:

    [All guys in the dinner, ready to go ...]

    EDDIE
    All right. Everybody cough up some green for the little lady.

    Come on. Throw in a buck.

    MR. PINK
    Uh-uh. I don't tip.

    EDDIE
    You don't tip?

    MR. PINK
    No - I don't believe in it.

    EDDIE
    You don't believe in tipping?

    MR. BLUE
    You know what these chicks make? They make shit.

    MR. PINK
    Don't give me that. She don't make enough money, she can quit.

    (Mr. Blonde laughs.)

    EDDIE
    I don't even know a fucking Jew who'd have the balls to say that. Let me just get this straight. You don't ever tip, huh?

    MR. PINK
    I don't tip because society says I have to. Alright, I mean I'll tip if somebody really deserves a tip, if they really put forth the effort, I'll give 'em something extra, but I mean this tipping automatically is for the birds.

    (Eddie laughs.)

    I mean as far as I'm concerned they're just doing their job.

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  144. Reading between the lines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If McDonalds were putting in customer self-service point of sale X terminals then I would get excited about this. There is, however, absolutely no mention of point of sale in any of this. It's about one percent as important as it would be if this was about making use of a free software operating system and X in the point of sale perspective.

    Let's see, Google, "Linux POS", mmmmmmmm.....

  145. well, this settles yesterday's Ask Slashdot by hal9000 · · Score: 1, Funny
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  146. Flippant error messages. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lp1 on fire
    process forked
    stty: not a typewriter

    And then there's BeOS's bundled web browser, NetPositive which throws error messages in haiku.

  147. Pomme Frittz (under the GPL) by luxuryluke · · Score: 0

    Under what license are they issuing fries these days? wouldn't this undermine their market dominance as the 'best fries ever'? have tasty fries become a commodity?

    Is a "Window" the best distribution model? hasn't this been disproven?

    Is the research of "tastes like chicken" open for public development?

    and lastly, is (gawd, not again!) "Open Source Burgers" written as: "Burger geöffnete Quelle"? ...corrections?

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  148. Didn't you know? by General_Tso · · Score: 1

    The new white meat in the McNuggets is penguin.

  149. This is a wise move. by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 1
    I hope this move means that McDonalds is testing Linux in Germany, and is planning to move its other 28800 restaurants worldwide to Linux as well, not to mention its corporate buildings.

    Imagine the possibility of up-to-the-second financial information on McDonald's performance... Now I'd like to make it perfectly clear that I don't like McDonald's at all. (One time, I was flying across the country with my father, and while we waited in the airport, we both got really hungry. He broke down and got McDonald's. I told him I'd rather starve. After he ate that, he felt really sick for the remainder of our flight... In my opinion, they don't use healthy ingredients, or at least they don't use them in a healthy combination.) But, when a big market leader makes a move like this, it's sure to raise some eyebrows, and I think it will help when other corporate managers start considering alternatives to expensive proprietary software.

  150. Do Fries Come With That GNU? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do GNU come with dem fries?

  151. I may start eating them again..... by tiger99 · · Score: 1
    .....when they have finally got rid of all their SCOundrel systems. I have been boycotting them since it emerged, either here or on Groklaw, I can't remember which, that their systems for running tills etc were based on Xenix.

    Meanwhile I have felt much healthier......

    1. Re:I may start eating them again..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and... who the fuck cares?

  152. Re:Reservoir Dog by StressedEd · · Score: 1
    *LOL*...


    I never twigged that was the start of RD..... Full marks for 'popular cultural reference'...


    For some reason (and this is where my point of "cultural differences" comes from) in this country (UK) tipping waiting staff [in a resturant] is normally done if they have given decent service (aka they are not useless) however the practice does not normally translate to other things (e.g. bar staff). If they have not given reasonable service a tip is either minimal or not given.


    As an aside. "She" probably can't quit. US Society (my impression of it at least) seems to dictate that the employer will not pay the employee enough therefore the employee has to gain tips to suppliment their income. On the other side of the fence (the customer) their is the (justified) impression of the employee that is under paid hence the moral pressure to tip, thus developing a self reinforcing practice.


    I suspect that the premise of Mr Pink in your quote:[if] She don't make enough money, she can quit. generally doesn't apply since people in such jobs are likely to be very "cashflow sensitive", so they can't quit and have to "play the game", reinforcing the situation of essentially compulsory tips.


    "Catch 22".

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  153. Linux: Supersize Me!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    {nt}

  154. Independent Researchers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder what an Independent Stock Research company would think about this.

  155. Cue next SCO suit by mabhatter654 · · Score: 1
    when I was at McD's I could swear they ran SCO unix on all their in-store stations. I believe they switched some over to windows, but not enough to matter on a corperate scale.

    OF course this is HUGE. That means Lots of Linux geeks can get promotions because they understand the business software!!! For me personally this is hillarious because I'm dying to workwith Linux and one of my last employers is still heavily novell...I could end up back working for the clown.

    As for SCO, I'd be worried... after all, McDs can get you...They've got all that dangerous hot coffee to use on McBride...not to mention suing "McBride" for use of the "McName"...their lawyers are THAT GOOD. This should be fun!!

  156. Thanks by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 1

    Thanks for Karma pimping me dude.

    If I had mod points on an extra account, I would mod you up as insightful. *grin*

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