but I wasnt a dvd user, so I didnt do anything
Then, they came for the printer cartriges, but I didnt use a printer, so I never said anything.
what's next?
DRM is next. DRM is basically a region code that allow the copyright owner to restrict you to using the product at a specific location (region == home WinXP computer).
However, from what I hear, once DRM is in place it will be a *win* for the consumer.
It amazed me the way some people think. It sounds to me like he thinks he should be free to write virii because it's expression and protected under the first amendment? So by that analogy, someone who burns down a building shouoldn't be prosecuted because they are just expresssing themselves. Come on, him saying that he didn't distribute his "code" is complete crap. He wrote it and it got distributed. Anyone who thinks differently can buy some swampland from me at a steep price.
What I find interesting is that the entire time I was reading the interview, it reminded me of the 'its legitimate to steal software/music' zealots who think any action they take with a computer can be justified as a $DIETY given right.
Call me uninformed, but don't ALL toasters use infrared beams? Heat some high resistance metal up with electrical current, blackbody radiation puts its peak output in the infrared range?
Yes, but todays toasters are not environmentally friendly - when they cool a layer of hydrogen oxide forms on the outsides. Given enough of this stuff you could have some serious problems.
Tandy Corporation is rumored to have just made TRS-80 firmware open source. With the competitive race to open source things, several dead vendors are trying to ride on the OSS coat tails.
Rumor has it that SwiM Motif may up the ante. Not to be outdone, the Transmeta Linux distribution is being resurrected. OS/2 Warp may follow. Stay tuned...
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Even ignoring any possible First Amendment issues (which can be done if we discuss this hypothetically occuring only in other countries) imagine what kinds of doors are opened when you permit automatic sight-unseen licensing to take effect on material on the WWW?
Tell me about. This morning I posted a link here in Slashdot. At that link was an agreement that each visitor must pay me $50. With the slashdot in full effect, I think I will retire now.
IANAL, but this 'binding' agreement thing sounds bogus. I think CAN-SPAM prohibited some harvesting, but I think the 'contract' non-sense is bullshit. For those who think they can get rich off of this, the only people who'll make money on *trying* this scheme will be the attorneys.
But maybe I'm wrong, if EULA agreements can be posted on websites with the caveat that by opening a box you agree to it, perhaps this makes sense.
Privately owned companies have a responsibility to deliver to their shareholders. The true test of whether a company is a monopoly or not is whether there is a willingness to fund basic research science without a myopic focus on the bottom line. Monopolies can afford this.
I think you are generalizing. I think what a monopoly does with its power is basically up to its leadership. I know of several monopoly industries who rested on their laurels and didn't innovate at all. Or where their public contribution was simply a very small token meant for public relations.
The problem with all these DRM issues is that no one ever brings up what happen if the artist is deceased. The record company still owns the song and making a killing.
Rule of thumb, if the artist is deceased the songs should be automatically free. None of this 2pac-after-death-release bullshit. He's dead how does he make music?!
I'm not at all defending the rip-off contracts, but you are forgetting that various people may have fronted/loaned the artist money. At the time of death that money may not have been repaid. All that drug money can really add up.
You know, I went there. However, only the first page of the 5 page report was 'mirrored'. Am I doing something wrong or is mirrordot just worthless in these cases?
Because cleaning up a crashed airplane is a lot more hassle than finding missing luggage.
Yeah but which one occurs more often (if ever). Which one is a likely scenario? People need to put these 'problems' into context. You can't minimize life to a zero risk probability environment - its just not possible. But you should focus on things that matter.
Why can't this much effort be expended on creating a reporting and monitoring system for not loosing my luggage? Or how about for increasing on-time flight?. Or modernizing the radar systems? Some guy in an apartment shines a laser that hits a plane and he's being treated like a terrorist. I haven't seen enough technical info that would convice me that an average laser on the ground would really be capable of causing a real problem. Perhaps outfit the pilots with $10 goggles or something. Shoulder fired rockets are more likely to be a problem and we haven't spent the money to outfit planes with countermeasures; its cheaper to arrest people for pointing a laser and gives the appearance of being 'tough on terrorism'.
Who says working on an app like this needs to pay the bills? How does someone with astronomy as an hobby pay the bills? How does someone who likes to paint pay the bills? You know, it doesn't all have to be about money? If could be about a desire to create better software, a desire to get work experience, a desire to help your fellow man, a desire to see an end result to a creative effort, etc.
If OSS development results in a team of people, the division of labor can be spread out so that you dont need to spend 14 hours a day working on it (if you don't want to). Of course if you produce a good app, there might be those willing to pay for support or offer a 'bounty' for features.
If the police can do this, does this mean that your wife/husband can do this sort of thing and figure out who you've been spending "quality" time with?
Of course not, silly rabbit. If you RTFA: "In another case, a man in Colorado was convicted of tracking his wife with a GPS bug after she began divorce proceedings against him."
The problem with these are:
1) How do you know its accurate? From the article: "One bug used by police to track convicted murderer Scott Peterson sometimes developed glitches that showed him driving at about 30,000 miles per hour. Judge Alfred Delucchi ruled the data could be admitted during Peterson's trial, which appears to have been the first such decision in California." If a radar gun is not calibrated a speeding ticket can be thrown out, yet its good enough for a murder trial!
2) How do you know I'm driving? Its kind of like the 'presumptive guilt' laws that are passed to 'assume' that the driver of the vehicle caught by a red light camera is the legally registered owner of the vehicle.
So how much love do we have to give apple before we can admit they are dicks to[o]?
For me none. I've disliked them from my early days when they sued third parties wanting to make 'unauthorized' clones of the Apple II. I believe it was 1984 when they sued Franklin Computer. At the same time the entire PC industry which laid the groundwork for interoperable componants, customized ordering, etc was flourishing. There were thousands of computer clone makers listed in Computer Shopper for you to choose from; a real competitive market. Apple on the other hand resisted that, kept its prices inflated, and withered. Once the iPod is gone, so will they.
And please don't get me started on Apple and 'brand loyalty', 'branding, 'selling the brand', etc.
I'm not trying to be a socialist with this thought, but most companies, particularly public ones who answer to their shareholders, are concerned with making a profit.
The economics of some of these tools are going to require companies to hijack our desktop with pop-up ads or 'relevant' ads.
However, the Open Source Software community could provide tools to do this without the profit motive.
Its kinda like the ole saying, 'some things only the government can/wants to do'; well some things only the OSS community can/wants to do.
This would appear to be what why it is so ineffective. Most of my worse customer call experiences is when I'm calling back for the 5th time and the tech droid wants to start on step #1 of the script, 'Sir, is the widget plugged in?'.
And, as always, my question is this: how is it that this is related to my rights online when I call up a remote location, with no idea what's on the other end, and my call is recorded when I speak INTO THE PHONE *after* I'm told it might be recorded?
Perhaps if you RTFA you'll see that the issues are more complex than this. For me, two parts of the article that disturbed me are
1) That the monitoring itself even captures what you say while on hold. Despite the 'please hold' and you listen to music, they are recording what you say. That was a reminder for me. I kinda thought the monitoring would be done while you were communicating with someone, not while listening to muzak. I wonder how many times they have heard me say 'If you are so concerned about your customer, don't make me wait on hold' or perhaps 'Thanks for my patience? Do I have a f'in choice?' 2) The monitoring itself is being outsource. Third parties, sometimes in other countries, are listening in when the rep asks you for you account number, mothers maiden name, etc. Thats a privacy issue about how my data is protected/not protected.
I think you are focusing on the wrong parts of the article.
As far as how does this relate to online? Hmm, its a stretch, more about affects of technology. TFA does mention VOIP.
What I don't understand is not that *shock* a call is being monitored after I hear a recording saying that it is being monitored. No, what I don't understand is how these recordings have not seemed to improve quality / customer service. I keep getting the same tech droid giving wrong answers as before. Typically I'm thinking to myself, if someone is monitoring this call for quality, please speak up and help!
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No one wants to hear your windchime at 2am, least of all me.
Not only that, but this article should have been filed under YRO.
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but I wasnt a dvd user, so I didnt do anything Then, they came for the printer cartriges, but I didnt use a printer, so I never said anything. what's next?
DRM is next. DRM is basically a region code that allow the copyright owner to restrict you to using the product at a specific location (region == home WinXP computer).
However, from what I hear, once DRM is in place it will be a *win* for the consumer.
It amazed me the way some people think. It sounds to me like he thinks he should be free to write virii because it's expression and protected under the first amendment? So by that analogy, someone who burns down a building shouoldn't be prosecuted because they are just expresssing themselves. Come on, him saying that he didn't distribute his "code" is complete crap. He wrote it and it got distributed. Anyone who thinks differently can buy some swampland from me at a steep price.
What I find interesting is that the entire time I was reading the interview, it reminded me of the 'its legitimate to steal software/music' zealots who think any action they take with a computer can be justified as a $DIETY given right.
Call me uninformed, but don't ALL toasters use infrared beams? Heat some high resistance metal up with electrical current, blackbody radiation puts its peak output in the infrared range?
Yes, but todays toasters are not environmentally friendly - when they cool a layer of hydrogen oxide forms on the outsides. Given enough of this stuff you could have some serious problems.
Tandy Corporation is rumored to have just made TRS-80 firmware open source. With the competitive race to open source things, several dead vendors are trying to ride on the OSS coat tails.
Rumor has it that SwiM Motif may up the ante. Not to be outdone, the Transmeta Linux distribution is being resurrected. OS/2 Warp may follow. Stay tuned...
Even ignoring any possible First Amendment issues (which can be done if we discuss this hypothetically occuring only in other countries) imagine what kinds of doors are opened when you permit automatic sight-unseen licensing to take effect on material on the WWW?
Tell me about. This morning I posted a link here in Slashdot. At that link was an agreement that each visitor must pay me $50. With the slashdot in full effect, I think I will retire now.
IANAL, but this 'binding' agreement thing sounds bogus. I think CAN-SPAM prohibited some harvesting, but I think the 'contract' non-sense is bullshit. For those who think they can get rich off of this, the only people who'll make money on *trying* this scheme will be the attorneys.
But maybe I'm wrong, if EULA agreements can be posted on websites with the caveat that by opening a box you agree to it, perhaps this makes sense.
Privately owned companies have a responsibility to deliver to their shareholders. The true test of whether a company is a monopoly or not is whether there is a willingness to fund basic research science without a myopic focus on the bottom line. Monopolies can afford this.
I think you are generalizing. I think what a monopoly does with its power is basically up to its leadership. I know of several monopoly industries who rested on their laurels and didn't innovate at all. Or where their public contribution was simply a very small token meant for public relations.
The problem with all these DRM issues is that no one ever brings up what happen if the artist is deceased. The record company still owns the song and making a killing.
Rule of thumb, if the artist is deceased the songs should be automatically free. None of this 2pac-after-death-release bullshit. He's dead how does he make music?!
I'm not at all defending the rip-off contracts, but you are forgetting that various people may have fronted/loaned the artist money. At the time of death that money may not have been repaid. All that drug money can really add up.
I gave up the Internet quite some time ago due to SPAM and SPYWARE.
On another note, did anybody else notice that /. was down for a few hours earlier today?
Yes, at least an hour of Internal Server Error. Same with newsforge.
I think the real crime is that they were falsely labelled as '0-day'.
You know, I went there. However, only the first page of the 5 page report was 'mirrored'. Am I doing something wrong or is mirrordot just worthless in these cases?
Is this a trick question? The Greenland photo is obscured with some type of white stuff. Maybe a better link is needed?
Because cleaning up a crashed airplane is a lot more hassle than finding missing luggage.
Yeah but which one occurs more often (if ever). Which one is a likely scenario? People need to put these 'problems' into context. You can't minimize life to a zero risk probability environment - its just not possible. But you should focus on things that matter.
Why can't this much effort be expended on creating a reporting and monitoring system for not loosing my luggage? Or how about for increasing on-time flight?. Or modernizing the radar systems?
Some guy in an apartment shines a laser that hits a plane and he's being treated like a terrorist. I haven't seen enough technical info that would convice me that an average laser on the ground would really be capable of causing a real problem. Perhaps outfit the pilots with $10 goggles or something.
Shoulder fired rockets are more likely to be a problem and we haven't spent the money to outfit planes with countermeasures; its cheaper to arrest people for pointing a laser and gives the appearance of being 'tough on terrorism'.
Who says working on an app like this needs to pay the bills? How does someone with astronomy as an hobby pay the bills? How does someone who likes to paint pay the bills? You know, it doesn't all have to be about money? If could be about a desire to create better software, a desire to get work experience, a desire to help your fellow man, a desire to see an end result to a creative effort, etc.
If OSS development results in a team of people, the division of labor can be spread out so that you dont need to spend 14 hours a day working on it (if you don't want to). Of course if you produce a good app, there might be those willing to pay for support or offer a 'bounty' for features.
If the police can do this, does this mean that your wife/husband can do this sort of thing and figure out who you've been spending "quality" time with?
Of course not, silly rabbit. If you RTFA: "In another case, a man in Colorado was convicted of tracking his wife with a GPS bug after she began divorce proceedings against him."
The problem with these are:
1) How do you know its accurate? From the article: "One bug used by police to track convicted murderer Scott Peterson sometimes developed glitches that showed him driving at about 30,000 miles per hour. Judge Alfred Delucchi ruled the data could be admitted during Peterson's trial, which appears to have been the first such decision in California." If a radar gun is not calibrated a speeding ticket can be thrown out, yet its good enough for a murder trial!
2) How do you know I'm driving? Its kind of like the 'presumptive guilt' laws that are passed to 'assume' that the driver of the vehicle caught by a red light camera is the legally registered owner of the vehicle.
So how much love do we have to give apple before we can admit they are dicks to[o]?
For me none. I've disliked them from my early days when they sued third parties wanting to make 'unauthorized' clones of the Apple II. I believe it was 1984 when they sued Franklin Computer. At the same time the entire PC industry which laid the groundwork for interoperable componants, customized ordering, etc was flourishing. There were thousands of computer clone makers listed in Computer Shopper for you to choose from; a real competitive market. Apple on the other hand resisted that, kept its prices inflated, and withered. Once the iPod is gone, so will they.
And please don't get me started on Apple and 'brand loyalty', 'branding, 'selling the brand', etc.
I'm not trying to be a socialist with this thought, but most companies, particularly public ones who answer to their shareholders, are concerned with making a profit.
The economics of some of these tools are going to require companies to hijack our desktop with pop-up ads or 'relevant' ads.
However, the Open Source Software community could provide tools to do this without the profit motive.
Its kinda like the ole saying, 'some things only the government can/wants to do'; well some things only the OSS community can/wants to do.
Netcraft confirms it is not relevant. Meanwhile, on Slashdot, its irrelevancy is featured on the front page.
Irrelevant News for News. Stuff that doesn't matter anymore.
This would appear to be what why it is so ineffective. Most of my worse customer call experiences is when I'm calling back for the 5th time and the tech droid wants to start on step #1 of the script, 'Sir, is the widget plugged in?'.
And, as always, my question is this: how is it that this is related to my rights online when I call up a remote location, with no idea what's on the other end, and my call is recorded when I speak INTO THE PHONE *after* I'm told it might be recorded?
Perhaps if you RTFA you'll see that the issues are more complex than this. For me, two parts of the article that disturbed me are
1) That the monitoring itself even captures what you say while on hold. Despite the 'please hold' and you listen to music, they are recording what you say. That was a reminder for me. I kinda thought the monitoring would be done while you were communicating with someone, not while listening to muzak. I wonder how many times they have heard me say 'If you are so concerned about your customer, don't make me wait on hold' or perhaps 'Thanks for my patience? Do I have a f'in choice?'
2) The monitoring itself is being outsource. Third parties, sometimes in other countries, are listening in when the rep asks you for you account number, mothers maiden name, etc. Thats a privacy issue about how my data is protected/not protected.
I think you are focusing on the wrong parts of the article.
As far as how does this relate to online? Hmm, its a stretch, more about affects of technology. TFA does mention VOIP.
What I don't understand is not that *shock* a call is being monitored after I hear a recording saying that it is being monitored. No, what I don't understand is how these recordings have not seemed to improve quality / customer service. I keep getting the same tech droid giving wrong answers as before. Typically I'm thinking to myself, if someone is monitoring this call for quality, please speak up and help!
I can just see Evil Steve Jobs at the marketing table. He raises his pinky to the corner of his mouth and says, "I'll think I'll call it mini Mac".
Bhwahahaha.