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How to Build a Hard Drive Wind Chime For Spring

tyrani writes "Spring is just around the corner and the front of the house isn't going to decorate itself. Build a Hard Drive Wind Chime and show your neighbors what a cool geek you really are." He's honest, too. From the article: "Many people linking this page on their blogs claim that this is a secure way of destroying your hard drive and its sensitive data. It is not completely true! The platters are never used in this HOWTO and could potentially be stolen by ninjas while you're making a wind chime and the data recovered by ninja-hackers."

197 comments

  1. Rarr by Tobias.Davis · · Score: 3, Funny

    I built a shank out of my hard drive, with the head sensor assembly. It's hard to smuggle into jail.

    1. Re:Rarr by flacco · · Score: 1

      the goatse guy should be able to help you with that.

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  2. No by Quasar1999 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This story is mis-titled... it should be how to keep your g/f occuppied... by letting her make windchimes... all the while, you go out and buy new hardware for yourself... ;)

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    1. Re:No by rob_squared · · Score: 3, Funny
      There's a joke in here somewhere; "girlfriend", "hard-drive", "wind blowing."


      Nope, got me, I can't think of anything.

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    2. Re:No by ServerXP · · Score: 1

      I want to take the hard drives apart for the magnets that are in them. Just so I can watch my g/f try to make windchimes out of those......>:P

    3. Re:No by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      I think in my case it would be the exact opposite, she is the one to bother with all the latest tech-toys.

      Man, I think I need some more RAM, I have to load /. in 256 byte chunks and it is a pain.

    4. Re:No by MiKM · · Score: 2

      Slashdotters have girlfriends!?

    5. Re:No by hammurderer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well there is one good advantage to taking apart the hdd if you have never done it. the magnets are quite strong strong enough to remove the security on most items at best buy and circuit city. Its does take a bit of practice but once you get it you will be able to remove the security pretty quickly. I recommend using both of the magnets on top of eachother tends to work better. WARNING this will only work on physical security I.E. Boxes and Spider wraps. the magnets will not work on soft tags or stickers because those are deactivated using a rf frequency. how do I know this? Well I work at circuit city and have tried to unlock the boxes and It worked. So happy hunting and dont get caught!

  3. Allow me to be the first... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...to say that this is probably the lamest "hack" ever.

    It doesn't have anything to do with harddrives, might as well have been an engine, mix master, or VCR. All he did was to string up a couple of shiny parts.

    1. Re:Allow me to be the first... by maroonhat · · Score: 0

      except that thes shiny parts are perfectly ballenced, ensureing many wonderful hours of chine like sounds. And now i have something to do with the stack of 2.1GB hard drives i have lying around.

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    2. Re:Allow me to be the first... by utlemming · · Score: 1

      Very true.

      However, it is something that I have seen before. My dad has two hard drive wind chimes in his backyard -- both made of between five and seven platters. It is actually a pretty funny sounding wind chime. You get clanks and good ringing from time to time.

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    3. Re:Allow me to be the first... by krbvroc1 · · Score: 1

      All he did was to string up a couple of shiny parts.

      If you RTFA you'll see that he didn't even use the shiny parts! Basically its 3 rings that look like washers. Definitely one of the lamest 'Stuff that matters.' post I've seen.

    4. Re:Allow me to be the first... by FireFury03 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't the platters rust?

    5. Re:Allow me to be the first... by TFGeditor · · Score: 1

      Not if modern platters are anything like the big 14-inch jobs we used to dissect. Made of aluminum with a metal oxide coating.

      Besides, neither the platters nor the drives themselves were sealed systems, and ambient specs allowed use in fairly high humidity. Ergo, if they would rust handing in a backyard, they would rust sitting on a shelf or in a powered-down drive.

      Imagine explaing that to the boss: "Well, you see, it rained yesterday so we had this head crash and....

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  4. Wind chimes are the tool of the devil by Neil+Blender · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not really, but they should be banned. No one wants to hear your windchime at 2am, least of all me. I have actually gone to a few nearby windchimes in the middle of the night and tied them together with fishing line to shut them the hell up.

    1. Re:Wind chimes are the tool of the devil by tardigrades · · Score: 1

      They're annoying during the day time too. Honestly i'd rather listen a radio then chimes and i really hate the radio.

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    2. Re:Wind chimes are the tool of the devil by B3ryllium · · Score: 4, Funny

      Uh, are you a ninja?

    3. Re:Wind chimes are the tool of the devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fishing line? That's nothing. My dad uses a hot-glue gun whenever the neighboor's windchime gets out of hand.

    4. Re:Wind chimes are the tool of the devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I lived next to you, I would put windchimes and several fans in the room closest to you, and leave the window open.

      Y'don't mess with other people's stuff - it's vandalism. If you hate them so much, try asking neighbours if they can remove them at night.

      Alternatively, you might learn about double-glazing and how to properly insulate your home.

    5. Re:Wind chimes are the tool of the devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Y'don't mess with other people's stuff - it's vandalism.

      I wouldn't really call tying up a windchime with string vanadalism. Either way, some people can take gentle hints. Some people can't. That's when it leads to....unpleasentness.

      NB

    6. Re:Wind chimes are the tool of the devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. Wind chims are fucking vile.

      Why are people compelled to fill a quiet neighbourhood with random clangly noise?

    7. Re:Wind chimes are the tool of the devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he's a pirate. The windchime was put up by a ninja.

    8. Re:Wind chimes are the tool of the devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or how about it's illegal for noise come from your house to travel to your neighbors property, atleast in my town it is.

    9. Re:Wind chimes are the tool of the devil by ZeroConcept · · Score: 1

      I will tell you the real...ughhhh!! *dies from a poiton dart*

    10. Re:Wind chimes are the tool of the devil by MemoryAid · · Score: 1
      My wife put up some windchimes, made of metal with a wooden striker. I found they sounded much better with a rubber band wrapped around each tube. It would cause a more rapid decay in volume. That wasn't quite good enough, though, so I found a sheltered area that doesn't get much wind to hang it in.

      We also have one that is made of bamboo. It sounds better, probably because it is quieter.

      You can also try stuffing the tubes with some damping material, like packing peanuts or expanding foam. Use this if you need to sabotage your own wind chimes, for whatever reason.

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    11. Re:Wind chimes are the tool of the devil by krbvroc1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      No one wants to hear your windchime at 2am, least of all me.

      Not only that, but this article should have been filed under YRO.

    12. Re:Wind chimes are the tool of the devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well that's the trick with winchimes isn't it, to do it tastefully. People seem to get pleasent "faint chiming" confused with "obnoxious clanging" confused way to often.

    13. Re:Wind chimes are the tool of the devil by shpoffo · · Score: 1

      That's probably because your neighbors buy crappy metal tinklers, instead of a quality crafter, hand-tuned chimes. You'd probably be amazed at how many compliments I've received from neighbors et al.

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      -shpoffo

      ps: I support your ninja actions against non-harmonic tinkler 'chimes'

  5. erm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Note that the magnet is extremely strong. Keep it away from other electronics and metal. Don't hurt yourself. Seriously, do not understand these magnets!

    sure....

    1. Re:erm.. by Tobias.Davis · · Score: 1

      That's true man, take a hard drive apart and place any part of your body between the magnets. it sucks :)

    2. Re:erm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? Huh?

      I totally don't understand those magnets!

    3. Re:erm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand.

    4. Re:erm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      my normal response to this stuff is "its friday, we are all nerds here we need something to do and it is a slow news day" but i cant even justify this post with that excuse. so what you strung some crap togther. most likely he posted something on his site and hope it got linked to on slashdot (we need a term for this hobby, my idea is slashbombing) now my excuse for links like this will be we lonely friday night slashdotters have got to have something to complain about

    5. Re:erm.. by djupedal · · Score: 1

      'Do Not Understand Happy Fun Time Magnets!'

    6. Re:erm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's OK, none of us do either. Oh those crazy magnets!

    7. Re:erm.. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Dubiya? Is that you?

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  6. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    would doing this void the warranty of my HD?

    1. Re:So... by t0ny747 · · Score: 0

      Just don't break that seal!

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    2. Re:So... by zcat_NZ · · Score: 1

      Yes. The guy specifically says this will void your warranty, and does not offer to reimburse you $5 if converting your hard-drive into a windchime causes data loss.

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  7. Whoa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  8. I'm a bad person. by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My neighbor had a wind chime. It got to the point where I couldn't stand it anymore, so I waited until they were gone, stole it, and threw it in the garbage. Wind chimes are loud, annoying, repetitive, and no, I'm not a grumpy old man.

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    1. Re:I'm a bad person. by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Wind chimes are loud, annoying, repetitive

      I just drownd it all out with Britney Spears music. Makes it sound like Mozart in comparison.

    2. Re:I'm a bad person. by winterlens · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Did you ask them to pull it down, by any chance? Neighbors occasionally accommodate.

    3. Re:I'm a bad person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ZING! Britney, you just got ZUNG!

    4. Re:I'm a bad person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      > Did you ask them to pull it down, by any chance? Neighbors occasionally accommodate.

      If, by "ask", you mean "tossed one of those serious-ass magnets from an old hard drive at it, magnetically gluing the whole thing together and silencing it", then, yes. Yes, I did.

    5. Re:I'm a bad person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Of course not. Because if they say no and I throw it in the garbage they are going to know I did it :)

    6. Re:I'm a bad person. by Trogre · · Score: 1

      An all-too-common quality of grumpy old men is that they don't realise they're grumpy old men.

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    7. Re:I'm a bad person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aahhhh! It was you!! You are going to pay for that!!!

    8. Re:I'm a bad person. by randalware · · Score: 1


      I must confess, I did (about) the same.
      Except I hung the wind chimes (undamaged) on their doorknob.

      They were the neighbors in a condo development in California.
      I didn't think the wind was that constant in the area,
      untill the wind chimes we hung.

      I lasted about 3 nights of the chimes.

      We all had a good chuckle over it, over a cool one.

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    9. Re:I'm a bad person. by ciph3r · · Score: 0

      Maybe not, but you sure do sound/talk/type/wordage like it :)

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    10. Re:I'm a bad person. by Invalid+Character · · Score: 0
      I read that first as "I'm a bald person"

      And for a second there your actions seemed justified. Oh well, your probably lacking in something else...

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  9. Already by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh yeah? Mine started making those noises already while *still* in the PC!......oh shit

    1. Re:Already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      was it an IBM deskstar by any change?

    2. Re:Already by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

      I had one of those IBM Deskstars too.

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  10. I say.... by SnoopJeDi · · Score: 0

    Goddamn ninjas

  11. Didn't have to be a hard drive.. by prakslash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The so-called hack does not really use anything that is unique to a hard drive. He just cannibalized one to get some metal rings and some shiny metal thingies to hang them from.

    Could have used a VCR, a CD player or even a bike!

    A little lame.

    1. Re:Didn't have to be a hard drive.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A bike. Now that's an idea. What a frikking kick-ass "wind-chime" a bike would make.

      Every time there is a storm.... *clang* *bang*

    2. Re:Didn't have to be a hard drive.. by rob_squared · · Score: 1

      God help you if you make a wind chime out of a bicycle, becuase no matter where *you* live, I know *I'll* be able to hear it.

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    3. Re:Didn't have to be a hard drive.. by sffubs · · Score: 1

      He missed out the most useful thing to do with old hard drives - use the platters as coasters. Much prettier and more hard-wearing than AOL cds.

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    4. Re:Didn't have to be a hard drive.. by sa1lnr · · Score: 1

      I doubt you will find many shiny metal thingies in a
      VCR or a CD player these days.

    5. Re:Didn't have to be a hard drive.. by Tehrasha · · Score: 1
      I agree. This isnt even new.

      There used to be a website that showed how to make wind chimes from hard drives that used the platters. It had 12", 8", 5" and 3" platters for different tones.

      THAT was a hard drive wind chime. Of course, finding 12" and 8" platters today would be a major bitch!

  12. wind chimes are the devil by PortWineBoy · · Score: 5, Funny
    I hate them.

    I've found that cutting the string that supports the ball or disk in the center is the best method for dealing with them. The neighbor generally doesn't notice anything different for quite some time and when they do, they are usually stymied as to how to fix it.

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    1. Re:wind chimes are the devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What isn't, hippie?

    2. Re:wind chimes are the devil by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 5, Funny

      Cops.

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    3. Re:wind chimes are the devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit where?! Oh, don't do that man...

    4. Re:wind chimes are the devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop right there. Can I please see some ID, Mr. uh, Coward?

    5. Re:wind chimes are the devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it was you .. you f* Bastard! I'll be right over with the shotgun!

    6. Re:wind chimes are the devil by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      Have you ever seen the back of a twenty dollar bill... on weed?

      Alternatively, have you ever sucked dick for a wind chime?

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  13. That's great but... by eomnimedia · · Score: 5, Funny

    The ULTIMATE hack would be to build a hard drive from a wind chime.

    1. Re:That's great but... by np_bernstein · · Score: 1

      Not that hard:

      Step 1: steal one of those windchimes
      Step 2: reassemble

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    2. Re:That's great but... by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      The ULTIMATE hack would be to build a hard drive from a wind chime.

      You have to go to Soviet Russia for that.

      Actually I made one once, but it only stored 2 bits.

    3. Re:That's great but... by DigitalHammer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Howbout a hardchime from a wind-drive? ;)

    4. Re:That's great but... by unitron · · Score: 1
      Or a wind driven hard drive?

      Hey, if it works for cell phones...)

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    5. Re:That's great but... by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      "Actually I made one once, but it only stored 2 bits."

      You built a two-bit hard drive, eh? That puts you up there with IBM...

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    6. Re:That's great but... by Joey+Patterson · · Score: 0

      Or a hard-winded drivechain for your car...?

    7. Re:That's great but... by roine · · Score: 1

      The real ultimate hack would be to totally flip out and make wind chimes all the time.

      Real ultimate hackers are mammals and don't even think twice about it. I once saw a hacker make a wind chime because some kid dropped a hard drive.

      Which is bragable.

  14. Ninjas!! by PolyDwarf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now, finally... We've truely learned what the ninja's Real Ultimate Power is!

  15. cool geek? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Banky: Alright, now see this? This is a four-way road, OK? And dead in the center is a crisp, new, hundred dollar bill. Now, at the end of each of these streets are four people, OK? Are you following?
    Holden: Yeah.
    Banky: Good. Over here, we have a male-affectionate, easy to get along with, non-political agenda lesbian. Down here, we have a man-hating, angry as fark, agenda of rage, bitter dyke. Over here, we got Santa Claus, and up here the Cool Geek. Which one is going to get to the hundred dollar bill first?

  16. Too funny by billsoxs · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just think what you could do with some mini HDs A couple of 40 G iPods? - think of the music then!

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  17. Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I imagine I could make a pretty impressive windchime from my Deathstars. Now if I can find a use for my Jaz Drives...

  18. In other useful advises... by SlashThat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Make Scrabble out of your old keyboard!

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    1. Re:In other useful advises... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you would need multiple keyboards...

    2. Re:In other useful advises... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make Scrabble out of your old keyboard!

      I tried this, but the blank tiles were too big to be practical

  19. Slashdotted after 15 comments. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know you need to upgrade when...

  20. Finally by lbmouse · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is why I loved slashdot. Thank you Zonk and tyrani for showing the spirit of what geekdom is all about. A story with no political bullshit, no anti-corporate rhetoric, no M$ bashing. Just good-clean fun with IT stuff. BTW OT - Has anyone else seen the drives on TG?

    1. Re:Finally by theparanoidcynic · · Score: 2, Funny

      Fuck the wind chime lobby! They probably voted for Bush, shop at Wal-Mart, and run Windows!

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    2. Re:Finally by jim_v2000 · · Score: 1

      I don't know how good of IT stuff this is...seems more like this dude's gf got her hands on some HD's and didn't know what to do with them, so she...well, you saw that article.

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  21. Oblig... by n0dalus · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope the site isn't hosted using one of those hard drives.

    1. Re:Oblig... by noidentity · · Score: 1

      If it is hosted on one, I bet it's making a hell of a chime right now. Or maybe this guy has already tied fishing line around it.

  22. NOLF2? by VeneficusAcerbus · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure why, but wind-chimes and ninja hackers reminds me of No One Lives Forever 2. -"Do you wanna go shopping this weekend?" -"Can't. I have an assassination."

    1. Re:NOLF2? by Grey+Ninja · · Score: 1

      That's just a vicious rumour started by some strange people. There is absolutely no such thing as a ninja hacker. =)

    2. Re:NOLF2? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell that to your friend that does believe in ninja hackers. The friend with the blow-dart through his processor.

    3. Re:NOLF2? by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Sez you. YOU still have all your fingers! :)

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  23. this is what happens by L1nux_L0ser83 · · Score: 1

    when you lock someone in a cubicle for hours and give him a hard drive to play with... i wonder if this would catch on if it was marketed...quick someone get msft on the phone!

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  24. Mac Artists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    if you owned a mac, this might be a viable art endeavor.... artists they are.

  25. Two words by flargleblarg · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Howto Build a Hard Drive Wind Chime For Spring

    How to
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  26. bad post ...it would be slashdot worthy... by L1nux_L0ser83 · · Score: 1

    if you made it into a windchime...and it still ran...that would be /. worthy. someone do that hack and you shall be my new modgod!

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  27. How to get a story posted on Slashdot.... by simetra · · Score: 0, Troll

    Go to www.boingboing.net or www.gizmodo.com, find something half-way interesting, and submit to Slashdot. Wait a few days, and it'll show up herre! :)

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  28. How about clocks? by antdude · · Score: 1

    See here. /. rejected my submission. :P I posted about it from my site.

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  29. Pentium earrings by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought to myself, what a dumb story. Maybe I'll post a story on Pentium earrings. On a whim I did a search. The moral is: no matter how dumb you think your idea is, someone has actually done it before you.

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    1. Re:Pentium earrings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aha! See my idea is to install Linux on a dead badger, I seriously doubt anyone has attempted that.

    2. Re:Pentium earrings by Joey+Patterson · · Score: 1, Funny

      Aha! See my idea is to install Linux on a dead badger, I seriously doubt anyone has attempted that.

      Think again.

    3. Re:Pentium earrings by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "On a whim I did a search."

      Whoah.. anybody click on the first link in that search? Glad I have safe search off!

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    4. Re:Pentium earrings by graffix_jones · · Score: 2, Funny

      The best part is the Pentium Earrings are listed under "Miscellaneous Antiques".

    5. Re:Pentium earrings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally, I liked
      "The different colors are caused by light reflecting from the tiny electrical paths that connect over 3 million translators."

    6. Re:Pentium earrings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats it, I quit. When all the stupid ideas are also taken, its time to unplug the internet.

    7. Re:Pentium earrings by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      You know, Google is freaky. I once had the inkling to create a webpage called, "Seintrek to boldly go nowhere in particular fast", but a google search proved that somebody had beat me to it. Offshoring and Google: brains are now a cheap commodity *sigh*.

    8. Re:Pentium earrings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm scarred for life and now I'm seriously considering turning gay.

    9. Re:Pentium earrings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I made a "dog-tag" -like neckchain, using your standard chain, and a AMD 486 -processor; drilled a hole in one corner, big enough for the chain to loop through.

      --Might want to remove/bend/file the pins on the back; as they can 'go nasty' on your fabrics (given that you're wearing clothes)..

  30. how to be a two day delay for boing boing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how to be a two day delay for boing boing.. linky: http://www.boingboing.net/2005/02/23/howto_turn_a_ hard_dr.html

  31. Copyright Infingement evasion tactic by microbrewer · · Score: 2, Funny

    A little project to do when the MPAA and RIAA contracted DOJ and FBI goons are about raid your house for widescale copyright infingement they will probaly walk right past your creative little windchimes full of copyrighted material.

  32. Good stuff by dauthur · · Score: 1

    My landlady's got this huge assembly of useless amounts of windchimes, from metal to glass to wood. I'm sure she'll love a windchime like this, only if I can sacrifice my coasters (They make GREAT coasters and pocket mirrors).

    Great idea. Now if only I can figure out if there's any more use for dead drives.

    1. Re:Good stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pocket mirror is on the right track. Due to how easily they polish up they're perfect for camping and with a hole in the middle make a good signal mirror as well. Don't use laptop drive platters though because you can shatter those. If you want to make a varied degree of music then get a hold of some "Bigfoot" hard drives too with the 5.25" platters in them. They hold a better "ding". All this wealth of info from an AC since I can't remember my password!

  33. Windchimes drive me crazy. by KillerHamster · · Score: 1

    I wish ninjas would steal them more often.

  34. cool? by flacco · · Score: 1
    Now straighten out the wires and you're done! To make the chime cooler, you can add more rings to it.

    that's right, because there's nothing cooler than having a lot of rings on the wind-chime that you made out of a hard drive. except maybe your gold-plated babylon five pocket protector.

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  35. Something cool by jim_v2000 · · Score: 1

    One of the computer labs at the school I was going to had the ceiling covered with old harddrive platters. There were also a bunch hanging down...it looked pretty sweet. I was wondering how hard it would be to tile a whole room in them...I think it would look awsome...all shiny n' stuff.

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    1. Re:Something cool by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      If you have windows in the room, you have terrible glare.

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    2. Re:Something cool by jim_v2000 · · Score: 1

      I didn't think about that. But my computer is next to a big window, and when hte glare gets to be too much, I just close the drapes.

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  36. Lame... by kryogen1x · · Score: 1

    ... in comparison to hard drive speakers.

  37. Ninja-hackers? by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 2, Funny

    "...and the data recovered by ninja-hackers."

    Exactly how does one hack a ninja? Is it like hacking an Aibo, only more silent and deadly? Sounds fun, anyway...

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    1. Re:Ninja-hackers? by Carthag · · Score: 1

      With a katana. Possibly a wakizashi.

  38. Waiting for the punch line by ramdaskm · · Score: 1

    What a lame hack. Here's a real one

    http://www.afrotechmods.com/cheap/hdspeakers/hds pe akers.htm

  39. What to do with the platters.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    We used them as plaques for retiring individuals. It was truely unique and folks loved them.

    We used larger 12" platters from some real old disk packs we found. But, you can do the same with smaller platters.

    They engrave nicely. And local engraving shop can handle them with ease.

  40. At Last, A Use For My Collection! by JohnPerkins · · Score: 1

    I've been collecting hard drive platters for around 15 years now, with the specific intent to make wind chimes. The few times i've tried have been pretty bad. At last my prayers answered...and my neighbors annoyed.

  41. Uhhh. I submitted this story on WEDNESDAY by windowpain · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Turn Your Old Hard Drive into a Windchime. Wednesday February 23, @10:39AM
    Rejected

    And I even included a link to another page on the subject

    WTF?

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    1. Re:Uhhh. I submitted this story on WEDNESDAY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As with success in life, success in /. story submission is random, capricious and unfair.

      The lesson to learn here is to never try :)

    2. Re:Uhhh. I submitted this story on WEDNESDAY by Maljin+Jolt · · Score: 1

      Turn Your Old Hard Drive into a Windchime. Wednesday February 23, @10:39AM
      Rejected

      And I even included a link to another page on the subject


      When rejected, always try to resubmit with different title when another editor comes into offfice. Having excellent karma also helps.

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    3. Re:Uhhh. I submitted this story on WEDNESDAY by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You must be new here. /. is a popularity contest and always has been.

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  42. Wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just imagine a beowulf cluster of these.

  43. Regular Martha Stewart of Computer Lab... by layer3switch · · Score: 0

    Surely he'd make Martha Stewart proud.

    Martha before prison: It's a good thing.
    Martha after prison: Son, it's all~ good, you dig?
    Martha after hd wind chime: Shizo, eezo, w00t! Aigh~t?

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  44. Fun with hard disk parts by Ernesto+Alvarez · · Score: 1

    Those platters are great as mirrors. At work we use some of them to peek into the machines in the server room to look for failures or for IDing chipsets.

    The magnets that are part of the head control mechanism are great for securing things to metal surfaces (they are really strong).

    Also, one of the admins used the rings to tighten a ceiling fan or something like that.

    1. Re:Fun with hard disk parts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...are great for securing things to metal surfaces..."

      What a cool hack! Kudos on thinking up such a clever use for magnets. I have lots of notes and photos I've been wanting to display around my kitchen, so I tried your idea on my refrigerator door and guess what--it worked swell! Thanks again!

    2. Re:Fun with hard disk parts by toadlife · · Score: 1

      We use the magnets to hold doors open in our office. The doors are really heavy type, and door stops were a pain in the butt.

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  45. What a Hideous Piece of Crap! by wosuna · · Score: 1

    You could always go to a OSH and buy one for $20 rather than spending half a day assembling this hideous piece of crap!

  46. um... by dnight · · Score: 1

    It looks like a shop project for the folks on the short bus...

  47. Be carefull... by slacktide · · Score: 2, Informative

    Many HD platters these days are not metal, but glass. Found out the hard way when I tried to bend a busted DeskStar platter and it shattered into a billion tiny pieces, and cut up my hand.

    1. Re:Be carefull... by rob_squared · · Score: 1
      I wonder how you explain that to a doctor...

      At least it'd be easier than explaining why a person cut up their ass when sitting on a scanner though...

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  48. Case in point.... by simetra · · Score: 1

    A buck says this shows up as a Slashdot story within the next 72 hrs:

    http://www.boingboing.net/2005/02/25/stance_angl e_ chair.html

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  49. Re:Fuck yankdot by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

    Slashdot, one of the more leftward leaning news sites, "yank propaganda"?!? I hope this particular AC doesn't watch Fox news feeds, it could cause a brain haemorrage.

    On second thought, I hope this particular AC does watch Fox news feeds...

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  50. What about the platters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The platters are the nicest sounding bit of the drive!
    I've taken apart a few, and hang the platters from wires.

    The disk is so perfectly round and flat that they have quite a pure tone, with some interesting harmonics. I use a softish glockenspiel beater with them.

  51. Anything by 64Bit · · Score: 1

    So now slashdot isn't stuff that matters it's stuff that is matter. Sheesh.

  52. Prag! by NanoGator · · Score: 1

    "I built a shank out of my hard drive, with the head sensor assembly. It's hard to smuggle into jail."

    Heh I would have laughed harder at this if your nickname was Beecher instead of Davis.

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  53. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But do the windchimes run linux?

  54. Older Drives by Alien54 · · Score: 1
    The older drives have larger disks. Look for some older MFM 5.25 hard drives.

    They make a very very nice true bell like ringing sound. The more modern drive disks sound tinny. I would take the modern disks and cut them into segments. This also makes sure that the data is not easily recoverable. That and the liberal use of sand paper.

    seriously - look through grandma's closet. There might be something useful there.

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    1. Re:Older Drives by maroonhat · · Score: 0

      sand paper? ha!


      Can you say BELT SANDER!

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    2. Re:Older Drives by Wingie · · Score: 1

      How would one go about cutting up platters without damaging them or giving them sharp edges?

      (I am the one who wrote the guide, by the way.)

    3. Re:Older Drives by SplunkDotNet · · Score: 1

      I have to admit that I was way upset by this site. I build a wind chime out of some 5.25 platters I got from a friend of mine a few years back and it's the nices sounding thing I've ever heard. Admittedly it's a little loud, but very nice soud.

      They were brand new platters too. They came in this cool plastic storage thingy and where all shiny when I got them, they're a little tarnished now.

    4. Re:Older Drives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you say BELT SANDER!

      BENT SANDALS!

      hmmm, I guess I can't.

    5. Re:Older Drives by Alien54 · · Score: 1

      Heat with a spot blow torch along the line you want to cut. Let cool slowly. This soften the metal for cutting.

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  55. This isn't anything new by jbohanon · · Score: 1

    My brother built one of these several years ago. He even bent the hard drives so they played the Big Ben chime.

  56. Oh Dear Lord! by TiggertheMad · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ...Martha fucking Stewart is posting stories to slashdot!

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  57. Promoting Magnet Ignorance by Anemophilous+Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    From the article:
    Note that the magnet is extremely strong. Keep it away from other electronics and metal. Don't hurt yourself. Seriously, do not understand these magnets!
    Really, trust me, you do not want to understand these things. If you understand a magnet, your head might explode. Please, put it down. Leave the magnet understanding to those who can handle it.

    - AC
    1. Re:Promoting Magnet Ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I took some hard drive magnets to work one day, and showed them to a project manager that I didn't like very much. "Be careful with those," I told him, "they're really strong." So of course he has to check it out. The results were most gratifying.

      So, um, yeah -- do not promote magnet understanding -- you might find the ignorance of others to your advantage.

  58. Next Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How to build a hard disk out of a wind chime...

  59. In other news... by dantheman82 · · Score: 1

    Intel Earings on ebay - $19.99

    These are guaranteed not to be DOA. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing. Honey, I'm just going to plug this in while you're wearing them to make sure they work...

    Interestingly, these will make the perfect duo for your ultra-g33k

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  60. This is the worst story I've ever read on Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, and I don't mean to flame anyone here, but I can't believe that this story made it on to Slashdot. To me, this seems to be a craft project that any pre-schooler would be capeable of.

    This is something that should not be compared to constucting a desk or computer case out of Lego.

  61. There are still good parts in there by Exluddite · · Score: 1
    Being someone who likes to play around with BEAM robotics, I think this is a horrible waste of a good stepper motor. The magnets are useful for pendulum projects too.

    As far as the platters go, I think if you'd give a few good swipes with one of those magnets, there really wouldn't be anything left.

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  62. Quicker method by isny · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here is my quick method for doing the same thing:
    1. Drill hole in hard drive
    2. Attach string
    Of course, these don't make the nice ringing sound of a wind chime, they tend to clunk together.
    Here's another method:
    1. Duct tape hard drive to tree.
    If you do enough of these, is it a RAID wind chime?

  63. I've done this... by mako1138 · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... and the problem is that since it's the same rings, there's no variety in the noise made, which is a necessity in a wind chime. You can use the platters too, but then things tend to get tangled, if you hang from the spindle.

  64. Reminds me of a project I wanted to try by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wanted to see if the discarded platters could be tuned to specific musical tones and build a sort of hard drive platter version of the 'Glass Harmonica' or xylophone.

    The old 5 1/4" platters (and the old old giant platters) produce a very sweet tone when struck!

  65. Destroying harddrives by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Just out of curiosity, and yes, this is somewhat on-topic, how useful is arts and crafts for getting rid of old harddrives?

    I mean, lets say I theoretically have an old harddrive with information on it that I absolutely want permanently destroyed. Whats the best way to do it on the cheap for a college student? I don't have access to acid or anything else like that.

    I don't want to just throw it out because god knows who could find it, so I've wondered about turning it into art that nobody would find suspicious.

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    1. Re:Destroying harddrives by Peter777 · · Score: 1

      Since the data is stored as magnetised dots, and since sufficient heat will demagnetise permanent magentic materials, I'd guess that putting it in a charcoal fire until it glows would do the trick.

      There's also software that will repeatedly write over your old data until it's no longer recoverable. I think the UK military here does that so that it can sell old hardware that used to have classified data on it, but I don't know where you'd find it. Of course, burning things is always more fun.

    2. Re:Destroying harddrives by Frodo+Crockett · · Score: 1

      Well, you could use BCWipe.

      You could also use everyone's favorite blocked I/O command, dd.

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    3. Re:Destroying harddrives by N3Bruce · · Score: 1

      If you live in a dorm, and don't have access to the required heat for the above method, or access to things as a gas or electric range, (just put the platters right on the heating element), then perhaps some physical means of disruption would suffice. A piece of 220 grit sandpaper costs less than a buck, and should easily suffice in making the hard drive platters unreadable with only a few minutes of engagement with the flat surface of the platter.

      For CDs containing sensitive material at work, I would take a penknife and make multiple cuts radiating out from the center, with a few random crosscuts for good measure on both sides

    4. Re:Destroying harddrives by stevey81 · · Score: 0

      if you have access to a gun they come in real handy for destroying hard drives :-D

    5. Re:Destroying harddrives by loraksus · · Score: 1

      Even a .22 will screw up a hard drive, but you'll probably be able to recover some data (but you can silence a .22 really well, if you use sub sonic rounds) Just don't shoot it at an 45 degree angle or something.

      Something a bit bigger, like a .380 or 9mm will
      a.) put a nice 9mm hole into the platter
      b.) make a nice and small entry hole
      c.) warp the platter so severly that some of the platter will end up outside the casing.
      linky
      d.) penetrate more than 1 drive.

      That said, open it up and nuke the platters for 10 minutes, you'll be fine ;)

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    6. Re:Destroying harddrives by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Making radial cuts won't accomplish very much. You'd be better off just putting the thing through a shredder. The best way to destroy CDs is to burn them, although they are made of plastic so the smoke is toxic. The second best way is to break them up into little bitty bits, which is much more environmentally friendly. It's also more dangerous, though perhaps this particular objections does not apply in an office environment.

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    7. Re:Destroying harddrives by N3Bruce · · Score: 1

      At work, I use a utility knife that deeply scores the disk on both sides, usually delaminating the reflective media, and I put a slight spiral in the radial cuts, and run in different directions. I do not have convenient access to a shredder ironically, though they do have an industrial-strength shredder on the premises.

      I purchased a cheap crosscut shredder for home use (for all of those credit card statements/offers, etc) and tried it on a CD with a paper label attached. The shredder advertised that it could shred 6 sheets of paper at the same time, along with credit cards, but it made no claims about CDs or floppies. It ran through, though the motor was straining mightily. The end result was a complete delamination of the label and reflective layer, along with many broken pieces of plastic, though amazingly about 75 percent of the disk held together. I tried it on a CD-R with a white printable background, and an obsolete McAfee CD, and acheived nearly complete shredding of the disk itself, and complete delamination of the reflective material. Some disks seem to be tougher than others though.

  66. Re:This is the worst story I've ever read on Slash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's Slashdot's secret fluff ratio. Much like the iPod Shuffle which has a secret chip to play certain songs by certain artists more often than others, Slashdot enjoys a secret fluff to good story ratio invented by Dr Taco. Professor Taco has a patent on this unique technology that permits lame ass stories about hard drive wind chimes, cats fed with Python, and something equally stupid which I can't remember as I type.

    The elaborate justification for this controversial technology is that some find it 'charming' and 'fun'.

    I, however am with you buddy; I think they sock cock and have no business being on a tech news site.

  67. Dear God NO! not Another Crappy Windchime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are too many of these already. Cheap, silly, girly assortments of noisy crap strung up and left to clank in the breeze, 24/7. Aerial collections of trash, junk-bins of lowbrow middle-lower class humanity. The WORST ones are the ones that have idiot ceramic cutesy plates, that have NO mussical qualities whatsoever. But of course, Mrs Knucklewalker bought it because Golly it looks so CUTE, doesn't it??? [snort] And it makes noise ALL THE TIME! ....The only salvation for piss-poor chimes is a pair of scissors in the dark of night. ....For Christ's sake, a GOOD windchime is one that strikes real notes, and the notes are tuned to harmonize. You get brass tubes, and cut them to different lengths, making sure that they all harmonize with each other. If you can't handle that, you're too fucking stupid to make a windchime.

    1. Re:Dear God NO! not Another Crappy Windchime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heheh just we what need:

      1337 advice on windchimes.

      Do00de m3 \/\/1|\|D©|-|1/\/\3Z iz /\/\()R3 1337 th4n j0000|_|rz. M3 \/\/1|\|D©|-|1/\/\3Z pwnz j000000

  68. 11" HD Lamp by Scrapheap_Challenge · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of a lamp my brother made out of two (System/38?) IBM harddrives. IIRC it had 3 11" platters and some nice aluminium spacers between them with holes in it where the light would shine trough. He glued everything together and put a halogen lamp inside. Very cool, but unfortunately the glue couldn't resist the heat so it took out the VCR on it's way down.. The drive itself was really heavy too, it even had warning signs on it :-)

  69. Ethernet jewelery by Bazman · · Score: 1

    I made some bracelets and a necklace from CAT-5 cable for some geek friends of mine who were getting married, and then discovered ThinkGeek do ethernet bracelets. But ThinkGeek only use the inner strands, I made mine chunkier and multi-coloured by chopping up three lots of sleeving.

    Put in a nice presentation box with an inscription to 'My Favourite Twisted Pair'. Geek joy.

    Pics here which I should have made a bit brighter...

    1. Re:Ethernet jewelery by Reziac · · Score: 1

      'My Favourite Twisted Pair' -- oh man, that's rich!

      Back when 256k and 1mb SIMMs ceased to be expensive, a lot of 'em found new lives as keychains and earrings. And I've seen CPUs used as tie tacks (works quite well -- they're a nice size for it).

      BTW does anyone remember where the site is where a guy tells how to make clocks from old HD casings?

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  70. Re:Fuck yankdot by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Slashdot? Left?

    Half the posters on here are so right wing they'll be invading poland any day now...

    Fox 'news' is a good laugh (we can get a feed in the UK) but not something I'd recommend spending too much time listening to.. Some of the parodies of it are really funny though :)

  71. Spring? I live in the southern hemisphere... by JayJay.br · · Score: 1

    ...you insensitive clod.

  72. Slug Drive by tbcpp · · Score: 1

    I heard of a guy once that shot a stack of six HDs with a shotgun. The slug shattered the first five, and came to rest in the center of the sixth. Makes a great conversation peice... but I degress.

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  73. Hard Drive Coasters by Broofa · · Score: 2, Informative

    Cool! It's always fun to see hardware reuse. I made myself a set of drink coasters from and old NeXT cube hard drive

  74. Enough is Enough. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For god's sakes go out and GET GIRLFRIENDS!

    Do me a favour, go out and tell some hot chick u are making windchimes with your old HDDs and see how weird they look at you.

    I'm as big of a geek as any but this is crazy talk!

    Go out and get some real "box" u dont need windchimes.....*shakes head*

  75. sad, very sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know we live in a sick society when people are proud that their site was "slashdotted". Of course anyone who makes wind chimes out of computer hardware is clearly screaming for attention.

  76. "insightful" WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean it's sofucking 'insightful' to

    a) not know that disk platters are made of aluminium, and

    b) aluminium does not rust.

    Insightful my ass!

    Go slashdot!

    1. Re:"insightful" WTF? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Aluminum doesn't rust, because rust is iron oxide. However, it does oxidize. Most people who say "rust" don't know the difference. Aluminum typically turns more or less white when it oxidizes, and unlike FeO2, aluminum oxide actually protects the underlying aluminum. It is this tendency that makes aluminum attractive for machined parts (besides being easy to machine, strong, and light in weight) and undesirable for wiring.

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  77. Flatbed Screwdriver? by electronerdz · · Score: 1

    Since when is it a flatbed screwdriver? I do believe it is supposed to be flathead. I did a search on Google, and several other people have used this. It is not a truck, it is a screwdriver.

    Anyway, I'd just use a platter to hang from my rearview mirror, instead of a CD like everyone else.

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  78. Re:Fuck yankdot by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

    "Half the posters on here are so right wing they'll be invading poland any day now..."

    But the other half seem to be fairly reasonable. By today's standards, anyway ;). Really, I was thinking about the articles presented, the fact that there is a YRO section, a slight anti-corporation bent*...

    "Fox 'news' is a good laugh (we can get a feed in the UK)"

    So can we in .au. I still haven't worked out why, it doesn't seem to contain any information.

    BTW, why did your post get modded off-topic, but not mine? No fair. Mine's off-topic too. I demand to be modded down! HEAR ME? MOD ME DOWN YOU BASTARDS!!! OFF-TOPIC!!!! Heh, haven't got the ba...hey, where'd my positive Karma go?

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  79. Acid? by GlobalEcho · · Score: 1

    do it on the cheap for a college student? I don't have access to acid or anything else like that.

    I thought all college students had access to acid. And alcohol. And lots more means of permanent destruction besides!

  80. Lots of hard drive destruction info on Usenet by antispam_ben · · Score: 1

    For some strange reason, this has been a recurring topic on sci.electronics.design.

    Go to http://groups.google.com/ and look for threads with these subject lines:

    Hard Drive Zapping
    Destroying a hard drive ?
    A possible cure for FCC bandwidth woes.

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  81. Forget Torx, use a Dremel cutoff wheel by antispam_ben · · Score: 1

    From TFA:

    Take the drive and remove the cover screws using the T-7 Torx key

    This is improper use of a Torx, especially if you don't have one and feel you have to go out and buy one to open a disk drive you're not going to put back together as if it were never opened.

    Using a Dremel moto-tool and a cutoff wheel to cut a regular slot takes only a few seconds per screw, and is much more in the spirit of destructive disassembly. Then you can use a regular flatblade screwdriver for slotted screws to remove the newly modified "security" (cough, hack) screws.

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  82. I made one too by donkeyoverlord · · Score: 1

    pics.w00ttech.com/wc I used an older scsi hard drive for all the parts.

  83. Always fun to build instruments by Kalvos · · Score: 1

    My first hard drive instrument was in 1994 -- the "Diskklang". A pix at the bottom of this page: http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/instruments. html

    The platters were bigger then, and the sound was very nice.

    Dennis

  84. Been doing this for years by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

    I've been building hard-drive wind chimes since 1996 or so and selling them at hamfests and other gatherings of the geek.

    The ones made from larger drives (5" and some even 10") are the most popular as the parts are the most rare.

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  85. Free Martha! by billstewart · · Score: 1

    Actually, she gets out of the slammer Real Soon Now.

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