Every time a biblethumper gets pissy about "larnin' evomoluzhun in ar skools" they've missed their mark so completely, I don't know whether to chuckle or cry.
I cry because I wonder how long before we have a Taliban like party in power. Its already started with the right-wing christian coalition wing of the Republicans. Fundamentalism thrives on ignorance, fear, unemployment, and poverty. All four are on an upward path in this country.
I'm sitting here looking at 'The Peter Norton Programmers Guide to the IBM PC' - 1985. Funny, its Microsoft Press. I remember that book well - it goes through a lot of the BIOS INT calls and stuff needed to write a TSR under DOS.
I seem to remember the Norton books being the FIRST to put the author on the cover. I wonder if it was done with computer books before Peter Norton or if he was the first? He definitely set a trend because nowadays there are a lot of IT books with the authors photos on the cover.
I can't even get 'abuse@comcast.net' to reply to my emails to disconnected Sober virus infected machines sending worms to my mail server. How do people get in touch with the correct folks to make all this coordination happen? Attempts to call comcast on the phone dumps me to a 'enter the phone # of the account on the bill'. Huh?
The difference here is that the abolishionist and Rosa Parks were willing to suffer the consequences of their civil disorder / law breaking. I don't hear many of the folks who think they have a $DIETY given right to freely distribute copyrighted works willing to accept the consequences of their actions.
You do realize that you're using their servers? They have the right to do what they're doing.
1) You do realize that I am not an AOL customer? Why would I be governed by their Terms and Conditions? It is their members who subscribed to my mailing list so they have to worry about that, not me. I am just delivering mailing that they subscribed to and confirmed with an opt-in procedure that they wanted.
What's wrong with following those guidelines?
The problem with following the guidelines is that as a mailing list I do not have editorial control over what people post to the list. I do not censor the list to insure that it meets AOL community standards. That is not my job or the nature of a non-moderated mailing list.
What's wrong with identifying yourself as the list maintainer?
That depends what you mean. Every email has an RFC compliant 'list-unsubscribe' header. There is a contact us form on the web domain. As far as my physical address, thats really not anyones business. The last thing I need is some deranged user showing up at my house because of something someone said to them on a mailing list.
So many of us, me included, rather than just unsubscribing from opt-in lists, hit the junk button in our mail client.
You sir are the bane of my mailing list admin existance. Click the spam/junk mail button only when it is spam or junk mail! If you are too lazy/stupid to unsubscribe to a list you subscribed for create a filter to/dev/null.
I agree that we need something better. The intelligence/computer savvy of the typical internet user is decreasing. However, bayesian training or 'report this spam' buttons can work if AOL didnt set the threshold so draconian.
Your idea of having to 'sign' the email as the sender doesn't really work in a mailing list model. So many of these hairbrained email schemes forget about mailing lists. I think mailing lists are doomed.
Could you deal with this by placing a unique ID in each e-mail you send, perhaps as a header?
Yes, that is what I did. However, this is very inefficient. Normally when you run a mailing list the same messages gets sent in one 'smtp' exchange with a mail server. Think of sending the same message to 50 recipients. Only one copy of the message is needed and you tell the AOL SMTP server the 50 recipients. Once you start having to 'personalize' each message, that one message needs to be sent 50 times to each recipients. A waste of time and bandwidth.
The biggest problem is the inability to email a person who cares at a lot of these places.
Quoting myself, I know. However, this past weekend, I tried going to http://www.bestbuy.com/ and the site reports that 'I dont have cookies enabled'. They must have some problem on their site so I figure I would report it to them (after testing it from 2 different machines). Emails to 'webmaster' and 'support' bounce. Emails to their DNS contact bounce. Another example of no way to get in touch with someone who gives a shit. As of this posting - its still broken. (though it seems if you go to a link inside their site you can get it).
I did report it to ebay on 4/25. The site is still up 5/2/2005. My point is that there needs to be a better contact system via email to report issues with a website / ip address. It would seem to me its would get a faster reponse if you report it to the company hosting the fraud than the third party. The 'phishing' spam came via email. I reported that to the owner of the mail server ip address and got no response their either.
People bitch and moan about AOL blocking things, but they are easy to work with and willing to white list your mailings.
You must not value your time much. First off, I run a high volume mailing list/newsgroup/webforum that has been in operation since 1996. AOL is continually a problem, but nothing like recenetly
As of two weeks ago, all AOL and Compuserve subscribers were removed and the mailing list shut down to those domains.
1) They are not 'easy' to work with. My emails to 'postmaster' went unanswered despite their website saying it was a valid method.
2) Their 'feedback' loops, once you sign up, forwards to you the email that one of their users reported as SPAM. (never mind this is an opt-in w/ confirmation list). AOL strips the 'To' address so you do not know who to contact. It makes the feedback look useless for a mailing list. I have to spend a day or two configuring VERP to figure out who it was.
3) My entire domain got blocked because one AOL user hit 'Report this email as SPAM' a dozen times. It took 3 calls and 3 hours on the phone to resolve.
4) They do offer a 'whitelist'. However to sign up for the whitelist you must agree to their guidelines. http://postmaster.aol.com/tools/whitelist_guides.h tml
What BS is this? They want me to guarantee that my mailing list meets the AOL T&C?
5) The whitelist states that every email should have a physical address and contact phone number for unsubscribing. More BS.
'All subscription based e-mail must have valid, non-electronic, contact information for the sending organization in the text of each e-mail including phone number and a physical mailing address.'
They are currently content filtering emails too. Any member of my mailing list two posts a message containing a link to 'angelfire' or 'hotfire' domains are bounced. Entire digets are bounced because a users signature contains their angelfire homepage. I tried to modify the mailing list so that 'http://' was stripped, but AOL still rejected it. Some emails that only contained 'alturl.com' (kinda like tinyurl.com) are bounced.
Where did you get the contact from?
whois on the ip gave me
Hutchison Global Communications in Hong Kong
email to their support, webmaster, dns contact all unanswered.
The biggest problem is the inability to email a person who cares at a lot of these places.
In the past two weeks I've tried to find contacts for domains that were hosting ebay phishing pages.
Emails to 'support', 'webmaster', internic domain contacts all go unanswered and the sites remain.
I reported this one a week ago, its still up:
http://210.0.213.115/~homepage/Secure/eBay/cgi-bin/index.php
The company insists the move will be national in time, but gave no timeline for when naked DSL would be available elsewhere. Verizon had promised this in May of last year, but then seemingly backtracked.
I'd be willing to bet money the timing of both this release and the previous was carefully planned to mollify some states public service utilities or some bill being reviewed in Congress.
DST isn't even a Federal law. If it becomes one, will Arizona be forced to implement it?
Sure it is. Its called the Uniform Time Act of 1966. There were many changes to DST (as well as myths). Various locations refused to abide by it. Finally a 'compromise' was hashed out and in 1966 the Uniform Time Act was passed to codify the compromise. Part of the compromise was that Arizona was exempted and part of Indiana could do their own thing.
I think the gov't should create a 'trust fund'. We should put all the extra hours in a 'lock box'. We then use that time to offset any future emergency shortfalls in time. If Congress cannot pass a budget, instead of laying everyone off, dip into the trust fund? Need more time to pass the budget, there is always the trust fund!
I hear Congress is meddling with Daylight Savings Time - Leave it alone!
The real issue is for the Federal Gov't to realize that our Foreign Oil
dependance is a National Security threat as well as an Economic one. We
need a Federal program similar to putting a man on the moon to harness
alternative fuel technologies. Only the public sector can drive the
research against the vested interests. It would create jobs, increase
security, and be a new technology that the USA can export to the rest of
the world.
Extending Daylight Savings Time by 2 months will break computers (like
Y2K) because new 'Timezone' rules will need to be programmed into every
computer that manipulates dates. The estimated savings is 10,000 barrels a
day when we use 20 million! What a short-sighted idea that totally misses
the big picture.
Sen Leahy wrote http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200502/022205.html to the Senate Judiciary Chairman Arlen Specter in the wake of ChoicePoint. From what I've read there will be hearings, but not sure when. I hope it leads to the start of strict laws on consumer data protection. I have doubts.
Come on folks, don't you know that Information wants to be Free? I read that all the time on here. I welcome our new information freeing baggage handling overloards.
All he did was to string up a couple of shiny parts.
If you RTFA you'll see that he didn't even use the shiny parts! Basically its 3 rings that look like washers. Definitely one of the lamest 'Stuff that matters.' post I've seen.
I cry because I wonder how long before we have a Taliban like party in power. Its already started with the right-wing christian coalition wing of the Republicans. Fundamentalism thrives on ignorance, fear, unemployment, and poverty. All four are on an upward path in this country.
I seem to remember the Norton books being the FIRST to put the author on the cover. I wonder if it was done with computer books before Peter Norton or if he was the first? He definitely set a trend because nowadays there are a lot of IT books with the authors photos on the cover.
Was this submitted by Mitch Albom?
I can't even get 'abuse@comcast.net' to reply to my emails to disconnected Sober virus infected machines sending worms to my mail server. How do people get in touch with the correct folks to make all this coordination happen? Attempts to call comcast on the phone dumps me to a 'enter the phone # of the account on the bill'. Huh?
The difference here is that the abolishionist and Rosa Parks were willing to suffer the consequences of their civil disorder / law breaking. I don't hear many of the folks who think they have a $DIETY given right to freely distribute copyrighted works willing to accept the consequences of their actions.
For some reason username fukyou, password phisher works too!
1) You do realize that I am not an AOL customer? Why would I be governed by their Terms and Conditions? It is their members who subscribed to my mailing list so they have to worry about that, not me. I am just delivering mailing that they subscribed to and confirmed with an opt-in procedure that they wanted.
What's wrong with following those guidelines?
The problem with following the guidelines is that as a mailing list I do not have editorial control over what people post to the list. I do not censor the list to insure that it meets AOL community standards. That is not my job or the nature of a non-moderated mailing list.
What's wrong with identifying yourself as the list maintainer?
That depends what you mean. Every email has an RFC compliant 'list-unsubscribe' header. There is a contact us form on the web domain. As far as my physical address, thats really not anyones business. The last thing I need is some deranged user showing up at my house because of something someone said to them on a mailing list.
You sir are the bane of my mailing list admin existance. Click the spam/junk mail button only when it is spam or junk mail! If you are too lazy/stupid to unsubscribe to a list you subscribed for create a filter to /dev/null.
I agree that we need something better. The intelligence/computer savvy of the typical internet user is decreasing. However, bayesian training or 'report this spam' buttons can work if AOL didnt set the threshold so draconian.
Your idea of having to 'sign' the email as the sender doesn't really work in a mailing list model. So many of these hairbrained email schemes forget about mailing lists. I think mailing lists are doomed.
Yes, that is what I did. However, this is very inefficient. Normally when you run a mailing list the same messages gets sent in one 'smtp' exchange with a mail server. Think of sending the same message to 50 recipients. Only one copy of the message is needed and you tell the AOL SMTP server the 50 recipients. Once you start having to 'personalize' each message, that one message needs to be sent 50 times to each recipients. A waste of time and bandwidth.
Quoting myself, I know. However, this past weekend, I tried going to http://www.bestbuy.com/ and the site reports that 'I dont have cookies enabled'. They must have some problem on their site so I figure I would report it to them (after testing it from 2 different machines). Emails to 'webmaster' and 'support' bounce. Emails to their DNS contact bounce. Another example of no way to get in touch with someone who gives a shit. As of this posting - its still broken. (though it seems if you go to a link inside their site you can get it).
I did report it to ebay on 4/25. The site is still up 5/2/2005. My point is that there needs to be a better contact system via email to report issues with a website / ip address. It would seem to me its would get a faster reponse if you report it to the company hosting the fraud than the third party. The 'phishing' spam came via email. I reported that to the owner of the mail server ip address and got no response their either.
You must not value your time much. First off, I run a high volume mailing list/newsgroup/webforum that has been in operation since 1996. AOL is continually a problem, but nothing like recenetly
As of two weeks ago, all AOL and Compuserve subscribers were removed and the mailing list shut down to those domains.
1) They are not 'easy' to work with. My emails to 'postmaster' went unanswered despite their website saying it was a valid method.
2) Their 'feedback' loops, once you sign up, forwards to you the email that one of their users reported as SPAM. (never mind this is an opt-in w/ confirmation list). AOL strips the 'To' address so you do not know who to contact. It makes the feedback look useless for a mailing list. I have to spend a day or two configuring VERP to figure out who it was.
3) My entire domain got blocked because one AOL user hit 'Report this email as SPAM' a dozen times. It took 3 calls and 3 hours on the phone to resolve.
4) They do offer a 'whitelist'. However to sign up for the whitelist you must agree to their guidelines. http://postmaster.aol.com/tools/whitelist_guides.h tml
What BS is this? They want me to guarantee that my mailing list meets the AOL T&C?
'Any e-mail sent to AOL members must conform to AOL's Community Guidelines http://legal.web.aol.com/aol/aolpol/comguide.html'
5) The whitelist states that every email should have a physical address and contact phone number for unsubscribing. More BS.
'All subscription based e-mail must have valid, non-electronic, contact information for the sending organization in the text of each e-mail including phone number and a physical mailing address.'
They are currently content filtering emails too. Any member of my mailing list two posts a message containing a link to 'angelfire' or 'hotfire' domains are bounced. Entire digets are bounced because a users signature contains their angelfire homepage. I tried to modify the mailing list so that 'http://' was stripped, but AOL still rejected it. Some emails that only contained 'alturl.com' (kinda like tinyurl.com) are bounced.
Where did you get the contact from? whois on the ip gave me Hutchison Global Communications in Hong Kong email to their support, webmaster, dns contact all unanswered.
The biggest problem is the inability to email a person who cares at a lot of these places. In the past two weeks I've tried to find contacts for domains that were hosting ebay phishing pages. Emails to 'support', 'webmaster', internic domain contacts all go unanswered and the sites remain. I reported this one a week ago, its still up: http://210.0.213.115/~homepage/Secure/eBay/cgi-bin /index.php
oops - make that emperor.
I'd be willing to bet money the timing of both this release and the previous was carefully planned to mollify some states public service utilities or some bill being reviewed in Congress.
Perhaps http://www.thestandard.com/internetnews/000850.php /
Its common knowledge that most Microsoft users already have one thumb up their ass. MS - mission accomplished.
Sure it is. Its called the Uniform Time Act of 1966. There were many changes to DST (as well as myths). Various locations refused to abide by it. Finally a 'compromise' was hashed out and in 1966 the Uniform Time Act was passed to codify the compromise. Part of the compromise was that Arizona was exempted and part of Indiana could do their own thing.
One of the patents appears to be "A method for diversion of eyeballs in conjunction with the suspension of sound during commericals".
I think the gov't should create a 'trust fund'. We should put all the extra hours in a 'lock box'. We then use that time to offset any future emergency shortfalls in time. If Congress cannot pass a budget, instead of laying everyone off, dip into the trust fund? Need more time to pass the budget, there is always the trust fund!
The real issue is for the Federal Gov't to realize that our Foreign Oil dependance is a National Security threat as well as an Economic one. We need a Federal program similar to putting a man on the moon to harness alternative fuel technologies. Only the public sector can drive the research against the vested interests. It would create jobs, increase security, and be a new technology that the USA can export to the rest of the world.
Extending Daylight Savings Time by 2 months will break computers (like Y2K) because new 'Timezone' rules will need to be programmed into every computer that manipulates dates. The estimated savings is 10,000 barrels a day when we use 20 million! What a short-sighted idea that totally misses the big picture.
If this product injures or kills your child, does the generous $5 offer still apply?
Sen Leahy wrote http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200502/022205.html to the Senate Judiciary Chairman Arlen Specter in the wake of ChoicePoint. From what I've read there will be hearings, but not sure when. I hope it leads to the start of strict laws on consumer data protection. I have doubts.
Come on folks, don't you know that Information wants to be Free? I read that all the time on here. I welcome our new information freeing baggage handling overloards.
All he did was to string up a couple of shiny parts.
If you RTFA you'll see that he didn't even use the shiny parts! Basically its 3 rings that look like washers. Definitely one of the lamest 'Stuff that matters.' post I've seen.