Cool idea, but wouldn't it be better to make the fishing nets intelligently navigate *over* the reefs to begin with? Seems simple to me... put controlled fins on the weights?
Ehhhh yes... if we for a moment allow us to look at the male human brain, it could easily be assumed that much of what we do has little to do with self preservation... the goal is to pass our genes on
They will (hopefully) use both techniques... First to examine actual models, and then form and test theories with their own code.
And the primary reason for creating such a thing, is to allow multiple botnets to battle it out. A simulated bot war of sorts. Who wins, and then determine why?
A potentially (un)?/fortunate side effect is that better bots can/will be written. The ethical discussion of bots that *fix* computers needs to be re-opened... Do we write and deploy bots that perform "search and destroy" missions in order to *increase* security?
I am in favor of such a bot war (presuming the good guys win) , though I am sure that it would lead to a crippling escalation of traffic as the battle(s) rage. I am sure my router will get quite busy once ideas from this project make it into the wild.
And who do we trust? Who/what decides which "repair bot" to release? Should the open source community start a repair bot project?
(preparing for total autonomous/un-attended cyber-warfare) (time to install that Quad-core)
Most of my dreams (negative ones) deal with technology that fails to bend to my wishes. The shower that suddenly turns on, and can't be turned off... even when you feel the valve close as you are turning it off. The radio/TV/whatever that eveb when unplugged from the wall, continues to play. The hot soldering iron melting it's way into the carpeted floor. Trying to operate a motor vehicle... from it's backseat. Constanly dodging power lines while flying... no matter what your altitude is.
Ehhhh... You could install VPN software for them and let them use your server.
THEN you can come home from work and get the feeling that both are the same!!!
BOFH = Bastard Operator From Hell
BOFh = Bastard Operator From home
The amount of thrust needed to be truly useful, is limited by the arcing from the higher voltages needed to produce that thrust. You have to limit the voltage to just below the arcing point, else your efficiency is robbed as you create lightning instead of airflow. You would also risk destroying your power supply as the sparks are basically temporary short circuits. Nor can you simply move the electrodes further apart to reduce arcing, as this will also reduce efficiency.
There are plans http://www.amazing1.com/grav.htm for a device that that uses ionic wind for levitation. The frame for the "lifter" must be extremely light and is made of balsa wood. Unfortunately the trust is so small, that it can't even lift it's own power supply. The power supply is separate and feeds the lifter via a high voltage wire. This wire also limits the craft's height due to the additional weight load as more wire is supported.
Theoretically, you could scale up the device such that it could support it's own power source and eventually a pilot. But it would only work on paper... it would quickly out-cost it's usefulness. The power required would make it hugely impractical and the required dimensions would likely be measured in miles! Additionally, you would not be able to control such a beast... you would be at the mercy of even the slightest breeze due to the interaction with the vast surface area of such a craft.
But... the model that I read about sure looks cool! Though it's not very useful beyond that.
That would mean that the right to overthrow our own government now authorizes us to have concealed RPG's and flamethrowers... (they've got armor, right?)
worried smile..."Oh boy, the shit's gonna hit the fan now"!
Lethal/disabling to droids but relatively safe against humans... Hmmm... EMP, RFI, Ions, Adhesive Foam, Laser (camera blinding), and many others
Sounds like the arms races (yes, plural) are about to go into some very interesting directions. And I like it! Don't get me wrong... I'm a big fan of things that go boom, and typically the bigger the better (just no nukes please). But I am more interested in high tech "no boom" solutions.
It will further be interesting to see the debate as to whether these should be available to the public... for as robotics gets cheaper, they will proliferate... there should be a balancing force.
While your perfecting this device I'd like you to consider testing on a vehicle that seems to parade down my street 4 times a day while subjecting me and my windows to the effects of his 2000(?) watt automotive megabass setup.
Now you too can have the biggest tin-foil hat in the neighborhood with the in home do-it-yourself Farraday Cage wallpaper and window treatments kit!
Or just move into one of the older (and I mean OLD) houses that are lined with a tin sheath... (I forget the original purpose of it) Like the older homes in Andersonville neighborhood of Chicago. Cellphone has full signal outside... no signal inside.
A man in a hot air balloon realized he was lost. He reduced altitude and spotted a woman below. He descended a bit more and shouted, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."
The woman below replied, "You're in a hot air balloon hovering approximately 30 feet above the ground. You're between 40 and 41 degrees north latitude and between 59 and 60 degrees west longitude."
"You must be an engineer," said the balloonist.
"I am," replied the woman, "How did you know?"
"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is, technically correct, but I've no idea what to make of your information, and the fact is I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help at all. If anything, you've delayed my trip."
The woman below responded, "You must be in Management."
"I am," replied the balloonist, "but how did you know?"
"Well," said the woman, "you don't know where you are or where you're going. You have risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise, which you've no idea how to keep, and you expect people beneath you to solve your problems. The fact is you are in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but now, somehow, it's my fault."
Clearly, it didn't... otherwise Katharine McPhee would have won. All that show proved, is that more insecure easily threatened women watch the show than horny men do.
What's his name (yes, allready forgotten) only did one lame commercial since the show... If he's so bloody great, why hasn't he picked up more exposure?
You'de think that these people sign some sort of contract that forbids them from appearing in/on anything if they don't win? I cant beleive that Katharine McPhee has been ignored by marketing execs and whatnot.
>Does 100 (or 1000) really take that much power to download one "file", or is it the same >amount of power used, just in a shorter time period?
>
>Or is it power used while idle? Does a 1000 device comsume more power idling in that mode >than a 10 device would?
It is my understanding that the energy required to obtain faster speeds is increased due to a thing called "slew rate". The timing in a slower system is such that a signal transistion can be more "lazy": it doesn't have to change as fast. The higher energy requirement is because the signal voltage has to be "slammed" into a "0" or a "1" much faster in order to maintain the more critical timing. And is also one of the reasons electronics is migrating to lower operating voltages... not only to consume less power when idle, but less energy is required by the smaller transitions.
A good example of slew translating to heat: You can hear your computer "think"
If you have a thermostatically controlled CPU cooling fan, you can hear it's RPM increase as the CPU performs more operations per second. Most of the heat is generated by transistors rapidly switching on and off, not from a steady state.
Why do we crank the air-conditioner, instead of using better insulation materials/tehniques?
Because we are brain-washed consumer americans.
Insulation is a buy once item... power consumption (derived from our favorite word "CONSUME" )
is a buy constantly service. Not to mention owning an air-conditioner is a status symbol.
And of course if you own one, then you must use it as well... or you are just a wanna-be.
I'd like to run an experiment with these... Imageine having a few groups of Aibos, (three or four Aibo each). Each group is isolated from the other, evolving their "language" independently. Once these languages have "settled" then mix the groups up and observe... misunderstandings... violence... hate crimes?
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Cool idea, but wouldn't it be better to make the
fishing nets intelligently navigate *over* the reefs to begin with?
Seems simple to me... put controlled fins on the weights?
Just return "Fuck you" to every connection attempt ;)
Give it an Enema.
BabelFish would disagree. ;)
If I may ask... *what* is so personal that you would continue to *supposedly* care after your death?
Plans for eventual family domination over the earth, and that somehow, pre-knowledge of that eventuality would prevent your offspring from doing so?
Not truly trolling... statistically, mathematically...
Your weather algorithms have a vested interest in being correct... obviously they are not aware of this fact, BUT... if they fail, they die!!!
It is in their interest to continue to be processed
PERIOD!!!
I will not pretend that this gives them a level of self-conscious awareness and self -preservation... but *THE PRESSURE* to do so... is still there
THAT is the *engine* behind evolution
Ehhhh yes... if we for a moment allow us to look at the male human brain, it could easily be assumed that much of what we do has little to do with self preservation... the goal is to pass our genes on
It would be my guess, that XS would be more useful as the accepted fringe explorers...
more likely scenarios can be predicted by humans and properly(?) countered...
fringe exceptions as predicted by machine, and countered by sending small handfuls of specialists, seems to make better sense ...
vs.
presuming that the machine's answer is the *only* valid and therefore worth defending against answer..
THAT *is* the error
They will (hopefully) use both techniques...
First to examine actual models, and then form and test theories with their own code.
And the primary reason for creating such a thing, is to allow multiple botnets to battle it out. A simulated bot war of sorts. Who wins, and then determine why?
A potentially (un)?/fortunate side effect is that better bots can/will be written. The ethical discussion of bots that *fix* computers needs to be re-opened... Do we write and deploy bots that perform "search and destroy" missions in order to *increase* security?
I am in favor of such a bot war (presuming the good guys win) , though I am sure that it would lead to a crippling escalation of traffic as the battle(s) rage. I am sure my router will get quite busy once ideas from this project make it into the wild.
And who do we trust? Who/what decides which "repair bot" to release? Should the open source community start a repair bot project?
(preparing for total autonomous/un-attended cyber-warfare)
(time to install that Quad-core)
It was becoming sentient... and you KILLED it!!
Talk about bass that *moves* you! DAMMM!!!
* = Pun?
A little more geekish you say?
Most of my dreams (negative ones) deal with technology that fails to bend to my wishes.
The shower that suddenly turns on, and can't be turned off... even when you feel the valve close as you are turning it off. The radio/TV/whatever that eveb when unplugged from the wall, continues to play. The hot soldering iron melting it's way into the carpeted floor. Trying to operate a motor vehicle... from it's backseat. Constanly dodging power lines while flying... no matter what your altitude is.
Ehhhh... You could install VPN software for them and let them use your server. THEN you can come home from work and get the feeling that both are the same!!! BOFH = Bastard Operator From Hell BOFh = Bastard Operator From home
I have often wondered...
Why should someone be punished any less for having poor aim? (timing/knowledge/experience/etc...)
Shouldn't the punishment be based on intent instead of ability?
It's the *thought* that counts, not the execution (pun?) of said thought...
"GODLIKE!!!"
The amount of thrust needed to be truly useful, is limited by the arcing from the higher voltages needed to produce that thrust. You have to limit the voltage to just below the arcing point, else your efficiency is robbed as you create lightning instead of airflow. You would also risk destroying your power supply as the sparks are basically temporary short circuits. Nor can you simply move the electrodes further apart to reduce arcing, as this will also reduce efficiency.
There are plans http://www.amazing1.com/grav.htm for a device that that uses ionic wind for levitation. The frame for the "lifter" must be extremely light and is made of balsa wood. Unfortunately the trust is so small, that it can't even lift it's own power supply. The power supply is separate and feeds the lifter via a high voltage wire. This wire also limits the craft's height due to the additional weight load as more wire is supported.
Theoretically, you could scale up the device such that it could support it's own power source and eventually a pilot. But it would only work on paper... it would quickly out-cost it's usefulness. The power required would make it hugely impractical and the required dimensions would likely be measured in miles! Additionally, you would not be able to control such a beast... you would be at the mercy of even the slightest breeze due to the interaction with the vast surface area of such a craft.
But... the model that I read about sure looks cool!
Though it's not very useful beyond that.
"It was designed to rapidly scan large networks, but works fine against single hosts."
:)
ehhh... perhaps you should use a less agresive word than "against"
That would mean that the right to overthrow our own government now authorizes us to have concealed RPG's and flamethrowers... (they've got armor, right?)
..."Oh boy, the shit's gonna hit the fan now"!
worried smile
Lethal/disabling to droids but relatively safe against humans... Hmmm...
EMP, RFI, Ions, Adhesive Foam, Laser (camera blinding), and many others
Sounds like the arms races (yes, plural) are about to go into some very interesting directions. And I like it! Don't get me wrong... I'm a big fan of things that go boom, and typically the bigger the better (just no nukes please). But I am more interested in high tech "no boom" solutions.
It will further be interesting to see the debate as to whether these should be available to the public... for as robotics gets cheaper, they will proliferate... there should be a balancing force.
While your perfecting this device I'd like you to consider testing on a vehicle that seems to parade down my street 4 times a day while subjecting me and my windows to the effects of his 2000(?) watt automotive megabass setup.
Now you too can have the biggest tin-foil hat in the neighborhood
with the in home do-it-yourself Farraday Cage wallpaper and window treatments kit!
Or just move into one of the older (and I mean OLD)
houses that are lined with a tin sheath...
(I forget the original purpose of it)
Like the older homes in Andersonville neighborhood of Chicago.
Cellphone has full signal outside... no signal inside.
A man in a hot air balloon realized he was lost. He reduced altitude and spotted a woman below. He descended a bit more and shouted, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."
The woman below replied, "You're in a hot air balloon hovering approximately 30 feet above the ground. You're between 40 and 41 degrees north latitude and between 59 and 60 degrees west longitude."
"You must be an engineer," said the balloonist.
"I am," replied the woman, "How did you know?"
"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is, technically correct, but I've no idea what to make of your information, and the fact is I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help at all. If anything, you've delayed my trip."
The woman below responded, "You must be in Management."
"I am," replied the balloonist, "but how did you know?"
"Well," said the woman, "you don't know where you are or where you're going. You have risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise, which you've no idea how to keep, and you expect people beneath you to solve your problems. The fact is you are in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but now, somehow, it's my fault."
>If it works for American Idol...
Clearly, it didn't... otherwise Katharine McPhee would have won.
All that show proved, is that more insecure easily threatened women
watch the show than horny men do.
What's his name (yes, allready forgotten) only did one lame commercial
since the show... If he's so bloody great, why hasn't he picked up more exposure?
You'de think that these people sign some sort of contract that forbids them from appearing in/on anything if they don't win? I cant beleive that Katharine McPhee has been ignored by marketing execs and whatnot.
>Does 100 (or 1000) really take that much power to download one "file", or is it the same >amount of power used, just in a shorter time period? > >Or is it power used while idle? Does a 1000 device comsume more power idling in that mode >than a 10 device would? It is my understanding that the energy required to obtain faster speeds is increased due to a thing called "slew rate". The timing in a slower system is such that a signal transistion can be more "lazy": it doesn't have to change as fast. The higher energy requirement is because the signal voltage has to be "slammed" into a "0" or a "1" much faster in order to maintain the more critical timing. And is also one of the reasons electronics is migrating to lower operating voltages... not only to consume less power when idle, but less energy is required by the smaller transitions. A good example of slew translating to heat: You can hear your computer "think" If you have a thermostatically controlled CPU cooling fan, you can hear it's RPM increase as the CPU performs more operations per second. Most of the heat is generated by transistors rapidly switching on and off, not from a steady state.
Why do we crank the air-conditioner, instead of using better insulation materials/tehniques? Because we are brain-washed consumer americans. Insulation is a buy once item... power consumption (derived from our favorite word "CONSUME" ) is a buy constantly service. Not to mention owning an air-conditioner is a status symbol. And of course if you own one, then you must use it as well... or you are just a wanna-be.
I'd like to run an experiment with these... Imageine having a few groups of Aibos, (three or four Aibo each). Each group is isolated from the other, evolving their "language" independently. Once these languages have "settled" then mix the groups up and observe... misunderstandings... violence... hate crimes?