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Material Turns All Surfaces into Stereo

An anonymous reader writes "According to James Bullen of NXT, 'The UK ministry of defense was experimenting with a way to dampen the sound in helicopters and developed a honeycombed material that did the opposite — conducted sound.' Cambridge-based NXT christened it "SurfaceSound" and arranged for it to be crafted into Toyota cars, Gateway computers, Hallmark greeting cards and more. NXT is working on ways to put the technology to use in touch screens that promise to be part of a new rage in 'natural interfaces' for computers, mobile telephones, televisions and other electronic devices. Toyota has SurfaceSound in the head liners of four of its car models. NXT recently made a deal with greeting card giant Hallmark to use the technology in 'big cards with big sound' when opened, Bullen said."

142 comments

  1. Great .. more noise pollution :( by Marbleless · · Score: 0

    Just what we needed!

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    1. Re:Great .. more noise pollution :( by Marbleless · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just what we needed!
      ... and I'm starting to sound like my grandparents ;)
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    2. Re:Great .. more noise pollution :( by Goodmanjaz · · Score: 1

      Uh oh...the first step in the Vogon takeover of earth...

    3. re:great .. more noise pollution :( by ed.han · · Score: 2, Informative

      uh...didn't you mean the vogon destruction of earth rather than takeover? you know, something to do with a hyperspace bypass? :>[/pedantic bastard]

      ed

  2. The heck with headphones! by loftwyr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I want them to make me a suit of that stuff!

    1. Re:The heck with headphones! by contrapunctus · · Score: 1

      Maybe this would be great for a soft spoken lecturer:)

    2. Re:The heck with headphones! by RuBLed · · Score: 2, Funny

      I won't recommend that... Think of the consequences...

    3. Re:The heck with headphones! by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      Fails about as hard as scientists who somehow invent a sound-conducting miracle foam while trying to create sound insulation.

    4. Re:The heck with headphones! by xactuary · · Score: 0
      Warning: If, while wearing stereo honeycomb condom, erection lasts more than four hours, call your doctor.

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    5. Re:The heck with headphones! by solitas · · Score: 1
      ...invent[ed] a sound-conducting miracle foam while trying to create sound insulation.

      Must've lost track of a negative-sign somewhere in the calculations. Happens all the time.

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    6. Re:The heck with headphones! by jollyreaper · · Score: 2, Funny

      I want them to make me a suit of that stuff! So you aren't willing to settle for a loud tie, you want the jacket to be loud, too?
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    7. Re:The heck with headphones! by Architect_sasyr · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm kind of ashamed to know that you parodied a Viagra warning label :(

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    8. Re:The heck with headphones! by somersault · · Score: 1

      Until he farted. Ahem.

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    9. Re:The heck with headphones! by Genom · · Score: 1

      So you could have personal theme music?

    10. Re:The heck with headphones! by rtyall · · Score: 1

      Hey, priapism is serious stuff. Warning labels should be put on more things, from that Backdoor Sluts 9 DVD to Natalie Portman's swimwear.

  3. True surround sound headphones by andreyvul · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now possible!
    Just wrap the FlexiHalo (tm) speaker around your head and listen in infinity.0!

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    1. Re:True surround sound headphones by re_organeyes · · Score: 1

      Chuck Norris doesn't like people messing around with infinity. ;-)

    2. Re:True surround sound headphones by Loibisch · · Score: 4, Funny

      You can also purchase the buttplug-upgrade for the FlexiHalo to listen in infinity.1!

    3. Re:True surround sound headphones by BaronElectricPhase · · Score: 1

      Talk about bass that *moves* you! DAMMM!!!

      * = Pun?

  4. Stereo = misnomer by themushroom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Stereo means there are two sound sources. Not to say that one couldn't put two separate panels (which I presume is the case with the car systems) to handle each channel, but in the case of the greeting cards it's gonna be monaural.

    1. Re:Stereo = misnomer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hm? just position them at the far ends of the card. Don't use the whole card as a sound source.
      Would allow two sources almost a foot apart, enough for a human to pick up stereo.

    2. Re:Stereo = misnomer by ikkonoishi · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can divide the surface up and project different sounds from different sections of the panel. Thus you could have the right side of the monitor project the right audio channel and vice versa.

    3. Re:Stereo = misnomer by dexotaku · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Stereo != 2 channels. Stereo == anything greater than a point source [monaural]. 5.1 surround is multichannel stereo, for example.

    4. Re:Stereo = misnomer by MisterSquid · · Score: 2, Funny

      and vice versa
      Having the right audio channel project the right side of the monitor would be completely awesome!
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    5. Re:Stereo = misnomer by Nevandal · · Score: 1

      Actually stereo means two or more sound sources...and actually, that's even wrong. Stereo truly means something was recorded from two or more positions and then reproduced using speakers. The popular usage of the word stereo (two speakers or two channel recording) is the misnomer ;) I'd also like to point out that this will probably cost 5 times as much as a normal speaker, and sound 5 times worse.

    6. Re:Stereo = misnomer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, stereo == solid.
      It means creating an audio image that appears to hang in the air.

      You can do this with a single speaker, configured as a dipole radiator, as long as you drive it with the correct asymmetric waveform!

  5. Surfaces... into Stereo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's great, I've always hated mono surfaces. So flat and everything.

    With any luck, in a few years we will be able to turn six surfaces into 5.1!

    1. Re:Surfaces... into Stereo? by Harold+Halloway · · Score: 1

      Well a basic room has six surfaces so perhaps you've got a good idea there. I'd patent it if I were you, before I do!

    2. Re:Surfaces... into Stereo? by hey! · · Score: 1

      My first reaction on reading the headline was that the researchers had rediscovered Peyote.

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  6. That is making a speaker inside things by corsec67 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not turning any surface into a speaker.

    For that you need something like these speakers from Thinkgeek, which stick on to any surface and make that surface the speaker.

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    1. Re:That is making a speaker inside things by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If they can do it with a greeting card, I imagine they could create product packaging that plays sounds. How about a PC game box that plays the sounds from the game, for example American McGee's Alice which had interesting tracks?

    2. Re:That is making a speaker inside things by cyfer2000 · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:That is making a speaker inside things by nitro316 · · Score: 0

      one step closer to the Minority Report.

    4. Re:That is making a speaker inside things by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      How about a PC game box that plays the sounds from the game, for example American McGee's Alice which had interesting tracks?

      Computer software still comes in boxes...?

    5. Re:That is making a speaker inside things by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1

      Wal-Mart, Target, etc are still viable sales points for games. I wouldn't buy there, but millions of consumers are too large a number to be ignored to marketers.

  7. Demolition by therpham · · Score: 5, Funny

    Great, now we can finally conveniently announce the demolition of the Earth when the time comes!

    1. Re:Demolition by phillymjs · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Damn you for beating me to making the reference while I was looking up the relevant passage!

      "Then there was a slight whisper, a sudden spacious whisper of open ambient sound. Every hi fi set in the world, every radio, every television, every cassette recorder, every woofer, every tweeter, every mid-range driver in the world quietly turned itself on. Every tin can, every dust bin, every window, every car, every wine glass, every sheet of rusty metal became activated as an acoustically perfect sounding board. Before the Earth passed away it was going to be treated to the very ultimate in sound reproduction, the greatest public address system ever built. But there was no concert, no music, no fanfare, just a simple message."

      ~Philly

    2. Re:Demolition by slawo · · Score: 0, Redundant

      42

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    3. Re:Demolition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *sigh* RIP Mr. Adams

    4. Re:Demolition by laejoh · · Score: 0

      Nah, I'm not really into Pokemon

  8. Ha! by Mr.+Ksoft · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now I can give Earth a demonstration of the greatest announcement system in the history of the universe before I demolish it for that hyperspace bypass.

  9. A THUNDEROUS Round of Applause by davidsyes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    To the UK government and NXT for turning what would have been a money-sucking venture (in the near-term application, assuming war/conflict/helo-deployment NOT inevitable) into a commercial spin-off and apparent success.

    (No, I'm not dissin' DARPA, I just don't know of/haven't seen in the new an intended DOD effort that nearly-IMMEDIATELY spun off into commercial success. I don't doubt they exist, I just have to Google them...)

    Now, I wonder if those sound conductors will work in love chambers... gotta keep the neighbors awake...

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    1. Re:A THUNDEROUS Round of Applause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except for... like... the Internet.

      Not that it became much of a success or anything.

    2. Re:A THUNDEROUS Round of Applause by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      No, I'm not dissin' DARPA, I just don't know of/haven't seen in the new an intended DOD effort that nearly-IMMEDIATELY spun off into commercial success.

      umm...you're using it, dude.

      DARPA isn't in the business of churning out commercial 'toys'. Medicine, aircraft, autonomous vehicles...all much longer range ideas. Stroll through their current list of projects. Some very interesting things.

    3. Re:A THUNDEROUS Round of Applause by Yetihehe · · Score: 1

      Now, I wonder if those sound conductors will work in love chambers... gotta keep the neighbors awake...
      This will be good addition to my Parabolic reflector dish
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    4. Re:A THUNDEROUS Round of Applause by HEbGb · · Score: 1

      Are you being sarcastic? NXT is a dismal failure in business, and has lost millions over the years, and is nowhere close to profitable. Sounds like they burned money even faster than the government.

  10. Hypersonic by popeye44 · · Score: 1

    Whatever happened to hypersonic sound? I know the company still exists.. but I see no product in the last 4-5 years.. and how would it work with this? Beamed directly at this stuff..

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  11. Nostalgia by iminplaya · · Score: 1

    Kinda takes me back

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  12. Man I hope this doesn't work with fabric by edwardpickman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just imagine a Hawaiian shirt that not only looks loud but is loud.

    1. Re:Man I hope this doesn't work with fabric by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      Aloha shirt. Stupid haole.
      Since he got the Aloha part wrong, Stupid a-hole would probably work better. 8-)

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  13. Re:Great for the ghetto beach cruzer! by EW87 · · Score: 0

    *shakes head*

  14. In other news... by scatters · · Score: 5, Funny

    The British Army now has ideal way to deliver the World's Funniest Joke to the battlefield. They are reportedly looking for a large number of English to Persian translators willing to work in isolated conditions.

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    1. Re:In other news... by Fallen+Kell · · Score: 1

      I don't know what is worse, that I got the joke or that other moderators did as well...
       
      I just hope they make certain the translators only ever see one word each, because we all know what happened last time when they translated it to German...

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    2. Re:In other news... by dow · · Score: 1

      Explain it me.... I feel stupid and don't get it :(

    3. Re:In other news... by MisterSquid · · Score: 1

      You don't get it because the grandparent is not so much a joke as an allusion.

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    4. Re:In other news... by shellbeach · · Score: 2, Funny

      They are reportedly looking for a large number of English to Persian translators willing to work in isolated conditions. Unfortunately for the army, the end result was Farsical ...
  15. Re:ALL surfaces? by renegadesx · · Score: 0

    How so? If you can get SurfaceSound gretting cards, I am sure you can get SurfaceSound bra's and panties. Maybe body paint will be harder but always worth a try

    I know GP is a troll, but we need some jokes here that are NOT flames

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  16. Sterno!? by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Informative

    I misread the headline as "Material Turns All Surfaces into Sterno"

    which, although a boon to the catering industry, would be somewhat troubling.

    Fortunately, they're just talking about NXT's cool speaker transducers that have been around for quite some time now (yawn...). Given that the laws of acoustics do still apply, even if the speaker is flat, the "cabinet" needs to be properly designed to produce good sound.

    I've got a portable speaker that incorporates the technology. Logitech mm28 -- I think I paid $15 for it, although it's discontinued now. Although it does sound fantastic for a tiny $15 speaker, the bass is a bit lacking, and the thing distorts all to hell when the volume is turned up. To be fair, it can be driven *quite* loud, which seems to indicate that the transducers are quite powerful, and that Logitech forgot to include some sort of volume-limiting circuit. It's more or less the most simplistic NXT design you could imagine, as it's a rounded rectangle panel with an NXT transducer a third of the way from either edge.

    All in all, with a bit of refinement, it could be turned into a great product, and it's easy to see how there could be many applications for this. Even though it might not produce audiophile sound (at least, not as lotitech had it configured), I imagine that it could be quite handy for "hiding" speakers in various locations, and could definitely be used to improve the sound quality of mobile phones. It also avoids many of the pitfalls of other "flat panel" designs.

    Poking around their website reveals that they've got a pretty nifty portfolio of technologies backed up by some hard science -- they've even applied the same technology (in reverse) to produce touch screens.

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    1. Re:Sterno!? by sogoodsofarsowhat · · Score: 1

      You've nailed it pretty good. The other major problem with this type of transducer is that given the "cone" is a flat surface when driven very hard at all it will produce modes that will not be conducive to good audio. There is no solution to this other than to dampen each mode out of each surface. This is not practical in a real world sense for most parts. It can be used at moderate levels but for loud powerful accurate full range sound (no its not bose wave radio) go with a traditional set of speakers. As for the tech its been out for a long time. Actually its not even that new an idea, but they have better DSP's then before and they have a lot better marketing.

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    2. Re:Sterno!? by pimpimpim · · Score: 1
      You can still get NXT desktop speakers, the appropriately shaped sonicum speakers, but at a price!

      However, as you say, the cabinet is important. To avoid using another power connector I especially wanted a USB speaker, even though I know that these can be pretty sucky. I listened to the ultra-flat speakers (I guess using NXT), but it screws up all the depth of the music you're listening to. I tried some strange unstable conic device, but it just created noise at higher volumes. Then there is a pretty expensive yamaha USB bar, but I wanted loose speakers.

      I finally bought a jaytec USB speaker set, the only USB speakers I could find that come in a pretty decent MDF cabinet, 2-way even (separate tweeter). It is amazing. No hi-fi of course, but just the result of some people who put in a little bit of effort to build a speaker cabinet that has the prerequisites to sound well, and you can hear that immediately.

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  17. Re:Surfacesound doesn't care about black people! by Datamonstar · · Score: 1

    Damn straight, my brotha! And this lady can help us do it! ...once she gets that bajillion or whatever dollars, that is.

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  18. Unexpected source? by QuantumFlux · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ministry of Defence? I would have thought it would be developed by the Ministry of Sound...

    1. Re:Unexpected source? by xrayspx · · Score: 1

      Damn /. and their random mod point fickleness.

    2. Re:Unexpected source? by gr8dude · · Score: 1

      Just in case, Ministry Of Sound is a label that promotes electronic music, check out their site, http://www.ministryofsound.com/

  19. ahhh that ain't nuthin' ... by Stumbles · · Score: 3, Funny

    the Vogons have been able to do that for a long time and do wirelessly.

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  20. Re:Integrate it with sheetrock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    abbadabbadoowha! two, maybe three times even. no seriously like what else are you trying to prove man? just jamming with the plannin and a pocketful of gum, you thought you made a funny joke and everyone else was like shiiiiit, it's just ho-hum. (sad).

  21. THIS is how the military should be making money by ecavalli · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sure, taxes are great, but I'd like to see how much cash the military makes on the amazing tech their scientists come up with.

    Between stuff like this (mil-spec gear modified for use in civilian life) and the medical breakthroughs they've created over the years, if the military were a standard corporation, they'd have cash coming out of every orifice not used for firing projectiles or enticing teenagers to join their ranks.

    1. Re:THIS is how the military should be making money by Loibisch · · Score: 1

      > they'd have cash coming out of every orifice not used for firing projectiles or enticing teenagers to join their ranks.
      That still doesn't leave much room with them talking out of their ass like 90% of the time...

  22. This is nothing new - again. by waterwingz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    NXT has been flogging this technology for years. This is nothing new but every few years they seem to get the media to think it is.

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    1. Re:This is nothing new - again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup - a couple of years ago I saw their flat speakers on sale in our local farm supply discount store (Fleet Farm in WI, USA) and their fold flat cardboard speaker in Sharper Image in various airports. Everything old is new again.

  23. Re:A THUNDEROUS Round of Applause--LOL by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    HEHE, Yeh, that's an obvious one, and I should have said "recent" spin-offs...

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  24. Vibrations? Distributed mode behaviour of a panel by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 1

    SurfaceSound describes DML products that, with appropriate excitation, are capable of emitting sound through bending wave action. All that is required is a self-supporting surface and an exciter. The use of materials not normally associated with loudspeaker diaphragms offers up new industrial design opportunities.
    Source

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't you notice the material vibrating, especially if it's a clear layer over a screen? I notice the smallest of vibrations caused by speakers that aren't even connected to my monitor (or car window) and I'd hate to try staring through a vibrating surface for as many hours as I log in front of a screen.
    HEX
  25. Re:A THUNDEROUS Round of Applause--LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You said, "nearly-IMMEDIATELY spun off into commercial success". I don't think the Internet fits that definition, unless you consider 30 years to be nearly immediately.

  26. Ancient technology by Col.+Bloodnok · · Score: 1

    I bought a pair of unused 'flat panel' IBM speakers (also NXT) 3 years ago. On ebay, for 99p.

    They're really good, for little speakers.

    1. Re:Ancient technology by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      I heard those "fancy" flat speakers had crap for bass.

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    2. Re:Ancient technology by moosesocks · · Score: 1

      "Flat panel" speakers can be made in two ways:

      1) Squash a regular voice coil speaker cone, and shove it into a tiny cabinet. This is obviously not optimal.

      2) Make a flat object to vibrate to produce your sound. This can cause all sorts of unwanted resonances, the elimination of which is one of NXT's primary innovations.

      Bass, however, still is a problem no matter what design you choose. Because lower frequencies have longer wavelengths, the object producing said waves needs to have a great enough range of vibration to produce those wavelengths. (mountains and weather systems can produce massive kilometers-long sound waves that are able to literally circle the globe, but I digress...) Because flat panel speakers are by their very nature, flat, the range of motion for the panel is limited to the depth of the cabinet, which typically isn't that much.

      The Logitech design does pretty well at lower volume levels, although it's obvious that a better rubber gasket around the panel would allow the panel travel further, and offer an increased bass response.

      The other option is to get the bass response of the flat panels "good enough", add a crossover, and funnel whatever bass the panels can't produce into a subwoofer that gets hidden out of sight. Once again, due to the long wavelengths, a low frequency sound has poor directionality, and is transmitted through solid surfaces more easily.

      It's not perfect, but you can't fight the laws of physics. If you want big wavelengths, you need a big speaker.

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    3. Re:Ancient technology by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      I think the idea of a very flat mid/high speaker set with a sub under the desk for the lows is a great idea.

      Mount the LCD to the wall and embed some speakers in the wall next to it to eliminate anything on the desk at all, and you've got a winner.

      Better yet, make all the walls, the ceiling and the floor be speakers and you're really winning.

      Didn't someone invent paint that turned a wall into a speaker? Or am I imagining things and need to go to sleep?

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    4. Re:Ancient technology by qupada · · Score: 1

      I have a comparatively ancient (6 years I think I've had them) set of 2.1 TDK speakers with NXT panels. They have to do it that way, the subwoofer (I use this term only because they do, 3 inch drivers don't really count) makes up for the lack of bass response in the speakers. Overall they're adequate, not terribly loud but clear enough sound, at least in any case the satellites don't take up much desk space, and the sub/amp provides a decent heated footrest. (See http://dansdata.com/s150.htm for pictures)

    5. Re:Ancient technology by DirkGently · · Score: 1

      "Bass, however, still is a problem no matter what design you choose. Because lower frequencies have longer wavelengths, the object producing said waves needs to have a great enough range of vibration to produce those wavelengths. (mountains and weather systems can produce massive kilometers-long sound waves that are able to literally circle the globe, but I digress...) Because flat panel speakers are by their very nature, flat, the range of motion for the panel is limited to the depth of the cabinet, which typically isn't that much."

      Not entirely true. To create sound, all you need is air displacement; a total "swept volume". If you're limited on your ability to move back-and-forth, you just need to make the radiating area bigger. That's why a 12" woofer can play lower than a 6" woofer (assuming similar efficiencies and voice coil travel).

      Mangepan has been vibrating large sheets of mylar for a good 30 years. These designs have less than .5mm of "excursion" and yet can often play down to 120hz. The downside? Well, they're about 2' wide by 5' tall. Still, it CAN be done if you've got the surface from which to radiate.

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  27. A long road to applause by greg1104 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ah, if only it were true. The underlying technology was patented by Britain defense researchers in 1991 and licensed to Verity Group, a big audio company, in 1996 (see the end of this article for a readable history here). Verity has been the company funding the money-sucking venture all this time. Even with their resources, it's taken them ten years to get this technology into the market in any big way. NXT is hardly a poster-child for quick commercial spin-off success.

  28. figures by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    all the useful ideas come from either porn or war

    1. Re:figures by texashouston · · Score: 0

      in the US it seems you need some military application to get funding, but not so here in Japan. We make robots here to take care of the elderly, and our supercomputers are used to model the weather and for understanding earthquakes. the top super computers in the US are for modeling thermonuclear weapons. sick sick country.

    2. Re:figures by dancingmad · · Score: 1

      I live in Japan too, and I love it, but this assessment is rather disingenuous.

      First, there is a lot of hand wringing here about the country falling behind the U.S., India, and other countries in terms of tech research and development. I don't believe war is great but it does spur technological development.

      Second, the development of some of these applications is almost as pernicious as war. The reason the robots are being developed to take care of the elderly is, partially at least, to keep an influx of immigrants, especially from Southeast Asia, coming in as low cost labor as nurses and such.

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    3. Re:figures by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Second, the development of some of these [robot] applications is almost as pernicious as war. The reason the robots are being developed to take care of the elderly is, partially at least, to keep an influx of immigrants, especially from Southeast Asia, coming in as low cost labor as nurses and such.

      In other words, Xenophobia. The US wants to blow up people, and Japan wants to hide from people.

    4. Re:figures by dancingmad · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

      Not all Japanese people are like this, but I've heard it as a reason to develop the robots.

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    5. Re:figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the monkeys passtime

  29. won't someone think of the basers? by jollyreaper · · Score: 4, Funny

    I dread pulling up at a traffic light next to a baser, especially once they start coating their cars with this shit. I'll have to coat my car with the same material, sample their noise and play it back a half-wavelength out of phase so I can cancel it out. If that doesn't work, plan B is the monster truck lift kit.

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    1. Re:won't someone think of the basers? by e4g4 · · Score: 4, Funny

      And plan C is the macarena.

      :P

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    2. Re:won't someone think of the basers? by jollyreaper · · Score: 2, Funny

      And plan C is the macarena [xkcd.com]. :P You bastard, you sick fucking bastard. I'm perfectly ok with crushing them to death inside their pimped rides with my monster truck tires but the macarena? At long last, sir, have you no decency?
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    3. Re:won't someone think of the basers? by n3r0.m4dski11z · · Score: 0
      Why dont you simply turn up your own cars stereo up so it drowns it out?

      "plan B is the monster truck lift kit"
      Oh it seems you drive a truck. Ill bet your too busy going slow, blocking everyones view, and listening to the v8 burning up your cash.

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    4. Re:won't someone think of the basers? by complete+loony · · Score: 0, Redundant
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      09F91102 no, 455FE104 nope, F190A1E8 uh-uh, 7A5F8A09 that's not it, C87294CE no. Ah! 452F6E403CDF10714E41DFAA257D313F.
    5. Re:won't someone think of the basers? by rant64 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      http://xkcd.com/368/
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  30. fp not related to racism! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Errr... whoyah?

  31. Sound Quality? by kidcharles · · Score: 1

    I smell another fancy new innovation that despite being slick and nifty further reduces the quality of sound reproduction, like over-compressed music files and cheap but stylish earbuds. I'm a cranky audiophile, I admit it.

    (I say this even though I didn't RTFA of course.)

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  32. Cambridge by loonicks · · Score: 1

    Note that NXT is located in Cambridge, England, not Cambridge, Massachusetts.

  33. Re:Vibrations? Distributed mode behaviour of a pan by waterwingz · · Score: 1

    Okay .. I'll correct you if you are wrong. The "smallest vibrations" that you think you see are actually very low frequency vibration. You will not see the audio frequencies - sorry but your eyes are not that sharp. You probably need to see some of their stuff to believe me. I have.

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  34. Not new, and advanced by Jose Bertagni by postbigbang · · Score: 4, Informative

    of BES speaker fame. He used to make speakers out of styrofoam. They sounded great. His demo was using a door as a sound conductor. Honeycombs are nothing new at all. Look up 'geostats' to find them.

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  35. Rollable displays WITH sound?? by skeftomai · · Score: 1

    Will this be possible with this technology combined with OLED? That would be totally cool...just like the science fiction books.

  36. After several noise complaints... by secretwhistle · · Score: 1

    the "Honeycomb Hideout" was shut down by local law enforcement officials...

  37. Hallmark cards? by Chas · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can see this at Christmas.

    *Little Jimmy* Here you go grandma!

    *Grandma* Why thank you Jimmy you're such a

    {100 decibels} WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS!...

    *Grandma* Augh!

    [THUD]

    *Little Jimmy* Grandma? Grandma? Why'd you go to sleep?

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    Chas - The one, the only.
    THANK GOD!!!
  38. Hm... by darkhitman · · Score: 0, Redundant

    So now we can make all the surfaces in a car into speakers? That would certainly make this more effective...

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    Tell me something...it's still "We, the people"... right?
  39. I have a toyota with this feature by CJSYVR · · Score: 0

    The NXT headliner adds barely anything to my FJ Cruiser. I have disconnected it and reconnected to test and believe it to be a gimmick.

  40. Come again? by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    Sorry, can't hear you over the music. Tell me later.

  41. Assuming layout by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

    True, but it could probably easily be used for individual speakers, only flatter and smaller.

  42. They sound rubbish and have low efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am an acoustics engineer and have examined some of the NXT products before. In general, the do not produce any bass (nothing below 200Hz), they have low efficiency (~55dB/w/m), about 30 times less than normal speakers and they also sound rubbish - the frequency response looks like a panorama of the Alps.

    1. Re:They sound rubbish and have low efficiency by dow · · Score: 1

      I don't think the point is that they produce sound like a proper cabinet speaker. Even some quite expensive speakers produce compromised sound, and the amount of cheap Home Cinema which uses the sub to produce half of the bass as well as the sub bass they were intended for really emphasises the deficiency in small satelite speakers.

      The point here is that you can have a surface that produces reasonable sound. Billboards, public information, communications will benefit the most.

      As said though, they've been selling these for years already, so I'm not sure why this is being reported now.

  43. They're all wrong by Smordnys+s'regrepsA · · Score: 1

    I think the comic you were hoping for is this!

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    Just -1, Troll talking to another.
  44. When you DAMPEN something you make it wet by martensitic · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is a pet peeve of acousticians everywhere.

    Sound and vibration are DAMPED.

    DAMPENING is for dishtowels.

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    1. Re:When you DAMPEN something you make it wet by the_other_chewey · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is a pet peeve of acousticians everywhere.
      Sound and vibration are DAMPED.
      DAMPENING is for dishtowels.


      It's probably based on HiFi magazine terminology:

      "Using that technology, you will be soaked with great dewily bass,
      humid treble and moist mid-range audio. Be careful though to
      use properly luted cables or you will get drowned by the leaked
      wet noise."

  45. Modpointless response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thus you could have the right side of the monitor project the right audio channel and vice versa.
    oooooOOH . . .
  46. Think of the porn games, man. Think of the porn by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ah, screw Alice. (When she grows up a bit, anyway;) Think of the packaging for those interactive porn games.

    In fact, if you can make a bit of paper play sounds, heck, who needs the game there? The magazine could be its own game. Rub the girl in the photo there and hear her moan, rub her there and she... umm... sorry, gotta go to the bathroom. I'll... uh... do some brainstorming and get back to you later ;)

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  47. Other approach.. by cheros · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Imagine the scene: thumper car stands at traffic light, with the sound turned up high as usual - windows are always down on those sort of cars because they have to make sure everyone hears just what a horrendous lack of taste they have.

    A very large "I have loadsamoney" car silently pulls up beside it (say a Rolls or something). Guy in the back never even lowers his newspaper but says something to which his driver nods politely and pressed a button.

    Front window adjacent to the thumper silently slides down, and a beautiful engineered speaker pops up - it plays one single, long violin note. All very classy.

    The violin note resonates with every piece of glass in the thumper car. It all breaks, the turned down windows shatter inside the doors, the windshield spiders then crumbles, even the driver's watchface goes to pieces and his sunglasses shatter into pieces that are only saved from falling by sticking to his goatee.

    Speaker pops back down while the window quietly slides shut, light goes green and the car glides forth, leaving a disassembled thumper behind..

    Yum..

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  48. Don't vorry... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    I am sure sooner or later someone will cater to the audiophile crowd too.

    Say... a $5000 per square foot carpet that plays the sounds all around you. Or $10000 per roll wallpapers.
    They'll probably throw in a couple of those $400 wooden knobs in the deal just to sweeten the pot.

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    1. Re:Don't vorry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about something that sounds good?

      If I walk into a high street consumer electronics shop like Dixons or Currys, the hifi gear in there sounds awful.
      The domestic stuff from 50 years ago was far superior. Then the emphasis was on getting whatever you could out of the limited materials and technology available.

      Nowadays, it's all about taking some fabulous and clean technology like CD audio and transistor amplifiers and making them sound as bad as possible with nasty hyped treble tweeters, fixed eqs, artificial phase shift and delays to get a wider stereo image, electronic bass boost to get thump, tuned cabinets to get loud one note bass like the Bose stuff etc.
      Just so it sounds impressive (to some) in the shop.
      That's nothing to do with excessive mastering, the gear sounds bad to start with.

      It is possible to make real cheap good sounding hifi gear today.
      I just think people have forgotten about good sound. And I don't mean 'my opinion of good sound', I mean measurably cleaner and flatter reproduction.

      So we get these truly dreadful sounding things, and no one even bats an eyelid.
      It's just expected that it's going to sound bad.

  49. I don't see what the big deal is... by skarekrough43 · · Score: 1

    ...I used to do the same thing with furniture and walls in my college apartment using a 5 string fretless bass and a 400 watt GK head.

  50. Sounds like a typical government project by Archtech · · Score: 1

    'The UK ministry of defense was experimenting with a way to dampen the sound in helicopters and developed a honeycombed material that did the opposite -- conducted sound.'

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  51. Cool... by Lost+Penguin · · Score: 1

    Now I want a new motorcycle helmet.....
    Bluetooth and surface sound.....

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  52. Finally a card for Grandpa by Shawn+Parr · · Score: 2, Funny

    I know you were trying to be funny, but this would finally be a card my grandfather could have a chance of hearing.

  53. Multi-actuators panels for Holophonic audio by thbb · · Score: 1

    I've recently been at IRCAM, where I could hear their wave field synthesis sound reproduction system:

    Using a wall of flat panels as speakers, they have the ability to turn a room into a sonic landscape, where the audience can walk around multiple moving sound sources as if virtual speakers where spread in the room. In a way it's a kind of analog to lightfield rendering in image synthesis.

    The effect has to be heard to fully grasp how this represents the next step beyond X.1 sound reproduction. If you get a chance to go to an exhibition that uses this technology, I strongly recommend you go just to immerse yourself in such a soundscape.

    Perhaps the poster's technology could help make this technology affordable ?

  54. I did the exact same thing! by filthpickle · · Score: 1

    I actually thought "what the hell is the use for that....." lol

  55. Of course by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hallmark to use the technology in 'big cards with big sound' when opened

    That's good, because honeycomb speakers are big...yeah yeah yeah! They're not small...no no no!

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  56. obligatory bill & ted reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    special treat from the 23rd century, Miss Ria Paschelle. Miss Paschelle as you all know is the inventor of the statiophonic, oxyogenetic, amplifier-graphaphoner-delaverberator. Kind of hard to imagine the world before we had them.

  57. great! by axiome · · Score: 0

    I can replace my von schweikert vr4 jrs wiiiith.. an end table!

  58. Thank Effing God I Have Lived To See These Days by BigBlueOx · · Score: 1

    At long, long last we have Hallmark greeting cards that are stereo speakers. And pigs that glow under UV light. And iPhones.

  59. Great by carrier+lost · · Score: 1

    "The wow factor is when people hear it. We're going where other people can't put loudspeakers."

    I'm already so happy with all the people with loudspeakers in their cars.

    Now I'll get to be entertained by folks wearing loudspeakers on their jackets.

    Yippee.

  60. RealGenius by Thecarpe · · Score: 1

    Messages from ~beyond... "Kent, this is God. Stop touching yourself." "It IS you!"