Thankyou for that, in return I give you glfrontier. If you use a debian-package management system, you can use my debian source packages for glfrontier (which I packaged myself) with apt-build or such:
deb-src http://packages.quickfox.org/ deb-source/
If you use ubuntu-edgy, you can use the binaries I built here:
Why use Windows 2000, an operating system with a history of insecurity, instability, leaked source code, etc. ?
Solaris has most of it's sourcecode available, Linux has most of it's sourcecode available. Solaris has a history of being unstable on x86 hardware -- even worse than win2k...
they could be using a tried & tested military grade product such as Trusted Solaris (already used extensively by the US government).
I find Solaris slow responding on a Athlon 64 with 1GB of RAM. I think they need something quick responding in a battle.
Windows is a perfectly stable (and even realtime) OS
What advantages does Windows's stability have other RTOSes/OSes?
It's also very secure if it's not connected to a network and no one is running unauthorized applications.
So how much more 'secure' would it be against other RTOS/OSes?
They are going to be using a highly customized kernel and base system probably the equivalent of windows embedded and security is going to limit applications.
I've customized Windows in embedded enviroments, removing, adding various subsystems. I doubt they're going to be writing their own subsystem since Microsoft provides such poor documentation on native APIs.
I imagine they're going to use Win32 and just group policies with custom software. Sorry.. I'm pretty sure SELinux out does the security and customization.
To advance fire, control, navigation and watch status systems you need a better base than a 1960 OS
Why? What exactly is wrong with it? Care to explain? How do you know it's a 1960's OS?
with little to no support and no programmers who know the system.
Is there no support? No programmers? I thought there were people TRAINED in the army/navy to handle these systems.
And I'll also bet that Visual Studio provides a development environment that is 100000% better than what they were using.
I can use visual studio to develop software for another platform anyway, why are you even bringing this up?
We'd probably all prefer they use Linux as it can be better, but lets not assume that just because it's windows it sucks.
Please answer my questions and give me more insight as to why a customized version of Windows embedded is better than a customized Linux system for such things. Actually, why wouldn't realy RTOSes (like QNX) be better?
There are thousands of highly important systems out there (such as ATMs) that run on windows or windows embedded and do just fine because they aren't plugged into a network
ATMs are networked... How the hell do you expect them to process financial data in real time? I've had Windows ATMs crash on me. I've even seen blaster on Windows ATMs.
the same should be true of any defense system (especially one linked to nuclear weapons), it should NEVER be hooked up to a non-secure and controlled network.
True, but I would also want a very reliable and secure OS on those networks anyway.
How long before the fleet is infected with the "launch the nukes" worm? Microsoft's security track record makes this a VERY BAD IDEA!
I thought nukes (US and UK) could only be launched from a disconnected control panel (not networked) manned by two people who don't even know the launch codes?
Anyone who wants to use Linux is most likely not going to purchase a Dell (odds are they build their own).
Wrong. I would purchase a Linux supported computer from a vendor.
If they did, they would most likely want to install the OS themselves.
If it already came with the distribution I was intending to use, I don't see why I would.
Any poor soul that purchases a Dell with Linux on it, will most likely do it thinking they are getting a some kind of deal.
You'd probably be paying more, since your purchase isn't subsidized by all the crapware being pre-installed.
They will get the PC and be very confused which in the end will cause a huge technical support headache for Dell and result in nothing but a pissed off customer because technical support doesn't know what Linux is.
I doubt Dell's tech support won't know what Linux is while they're selling preinstalled Linux systems.
In the end the customer has a computer they can barely use cause they can't figure out Linux.
No idea what rubbish you're spilling now. If older people and children who are mostly computer illiterate can use Linux, I don't see why Dell customers can't.
Be honest. How many of you Linux users would actually purchase a Dell?
Moving the servers doesn't solve the problem of the credit card companies not allowing their US customers to make charges.
Nope, but everyone else will be able to continue doing charges. I'm not too concerned about US customer ability since I don't live there, nor intend to.
Then there's also the problem of being arrested... if they were willing to arrest a British citizen (who ran gambling servers that were NOT in the US) who flew into the US, how much easier will it be to prosecute the higher-ups at Linden?
Wasn't that British citizen providing that 'illegal' service to US users?
and every time someone tries to cash out any significant amount, the value drops several 100 percent
It's not changed that considerably for me enough to increase/decrease prices on things I sell in Second Life to pay for things in first life that have fixed monthly prices.
Plus, with the feds getting into the whole "you can't gamble on the intarweb", they either have to shut the virtual casinos down, or completely decouple Linden$ from the real world.
Right. The scripting language seems like a typical home-made C clone: Lua, Python, etc, would do just as well with less cost to all involved.
I'm not too sure on the memory usage of other scripting languages. LSL was designed to be compiled in bytecode (like python) and then executed in virtual machines. The maximum amount of memory a script can use (including it's bytecode) on SL is 13kb. Are you sure the alternatives would be able todo the same LSL can do within the same memory constraints?
LUA is not used to script games but to script UIs of games.
Oh nos! I wrote a MUD engine that used Lua for scripting rooms, objects, mobs etc.
Now it's going to implode on itself!
In an interactive object world, object states and their interaction events are far easier to map to a special purpose programming language, than it is, e.g. to register a LUA function for each event you are interested in.
Event handlers aren't hard to add in Lua in my opinion.
However, the biggest issue is that LL is constantly breaking crap in their futile effort to scale their unscalable grid design to support the "millions of new residents" brought in from all the hype.
Only thing I've noticed they've broken is the online detection when you query the dataserver (which isn't something that's used in the majority of scripts anyway). Other than that -- I really can't think of anything else.
But why then do they need a corporate email address? Why not a company website with that information? That would be significantly less work to host than an email address.
But before you could do that, you'd need to develop the website.
Will kind of put a damper on this whole online storage thing.
Doubt it.
Bottom line, real companies don't want their confidential documents floating around willy-nilly in the "cloud". And to have 2 systems (one desktop based for confidential, and "cloud" based for non-confidential) is just too much hastle to have to remember and maintain.
From what I've seen, corporations have bigger issues with this, and they are the ones that can afford hosting everything internally. Smaller companies can't really afford to host things internally and have less issues with confidential information getting leaked somewhere, even though many operate out of free webmail addresses etc.
Visual Studio 2002 and 2003 aren't being supported at all and the MS FAQ for VS on Vista recommends for non-VS 2005 development tools that you install SP1 for Vista... which, er, hasn't been released yet
From the Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 and the Service Pack 1 Update for Windows Vista link:
Visual Studio 2005 SP1 (includes SP1 updates for Standard, Professional, and Team Editions of Visual Studio 2005)
Visual Studio 2005 Team Foundation Server SP1
Visual Studio 2005 Express Editions SP1
Visual Studio 2005 SP1 Update for Windows Vista Beta
(i.e., I would be just as devastated to lose all the files in my home directory as I would the entire system)
When it happens once, you learn to backup after that. Worst case scenario, I lose a day of changes -- I heard vista has a feature that lets you roll back file changes by the way.
If one day you were using Windows and out of the blue you were prompted to allow or deny "del *.* in home", you'd probably be thankful it was there.
Actually... I always get prompts on legitimate software and have had various malware just appear on the system without even requiring me to go through any prompts (and no, they weren't disabled) -- So not really useful.
That'll be great for companies that sell hard disks. Every person using the PC who wants to play 'Fancy New 3D Shooter II' needs to install their own 20GB copy of the game in their own home directory.
I suppose ACLs and symlinks might help, but it's suddenly getting over complicated.
One of the big complaints in this article is about UAC. It's too bothersome.
It is. I never get harassed by password dialogs on Linux while using software. I only get it when I start something like a package manager -- starting.
OK, fair enough. Vista adds UAC, which does just what those GUI sudo programs do.
No, it doesn't -- it prompts me on programs eachtime that are trying to use admin functions. Linux's GUI sudos are closer to Windows's runas. Unfortunately I ran into problems where installers didn't like being ran as another user other than the one that had the desktop so the installer would close with a error.
Windows now has "sudo" functionality, which everyone was complaining about, but the claim now is that it's too intrusive. Can Microsoft ever win with you guys?
People mostly just wanted control panel items and installers to only ask for admin access to my knowledge. Unfortunately disabling UAC prompts so you don't get harassed by applications also disables it elsewhere.
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Thankyou for that, in return I give you glfrontier. If you use a debian-package management system, you can use my debian source packages for glfrontier (which I packaged myself) with apt-build or such: If you use ubuntu-edgy, you can use the binaries I built here: The package is called 'glfrontier'.
Note: I'm not a Solaris hater.
I imagine they're going to use Win32 and just group policies with custom software. Sorry.. I'm pretty sure SELinux out does the security and customization.Why? What exactly is wrong with it? Care to explain? How do you know it's a 1960's OS?Is there no support? No programmers? I thought there were people TRAINED in the army/navy to handle these systems.I can use visual studio to develop software for another platform anyway, why are you even bringing this up?Please answer my questions and give me more insight as to why a customized version of Windows embedded is better than a customized Linux system for such things. Actually, why wouldn't realy RTOSes (like QNX) be better?ATMs are networked... How the hell do you expect them to process financial data in real time? I've had Windows ATMs crash on me. I've even seen blaster on Windows ATMs.True, but I would also want a very reliable and secure OS on those networks anyway.
It is my opinion that you make far too many assumptions on stereotypes.
I confirm what the parent poster is saying.
People already do this on Second life.
Also people tend to attach their 'sex' to their stomach attachment point.
Anything I can look at to compare with?
Now it's going to implode on itself!Event handlers aren't hard to add in Lua in my opinion.
Care to enlighten me?
I do not see the problem.