> Especially taking on Google. > > Let's say Cable Company A wants to exhort Google and charge more (or else slower service). Google refuses. A begins to slow service. Google retaliates - and blocks all accesses coming from A. Customer can't get to Google....yell at Company A. Company says it's not our fault....Company B goes through fine. > > Customers switch to Company B.
Actually, I think it would work like this:
Cable Company A wants to exhort Google and charge more (or else slower service).
Google refuses.
A begins to slow service.
Google retaliates - and places a lovely message informing their users about their ISP on all pages.
Customer gets annoyed, doesnt even bother contacting company A about it, and leaves A for company B eventually.
> Say Blue, if you ever have free time again, a Mac version would be grand.
Please, I'm begging you Mac users, stop spamming commenting systems with requests for a Mac version.
It's already bad enough when I'm looking at Skype plugins, I don't need it here. When I'm browsing to look at some useful comments on some software, I browse through hundreds of "Make a mac version!" requests, just to find ONE comment on the actual software.
Stop using comments for MacOSX port requests, it's annoying. Thankyou.
> This is precisely what I'm talking about. I have no flickering, no whining, no overheating, no airport IBM xserveissues and it runs definitely more than 150 minutes on battery power.
I do actually run a IT department, and have seen all the issues I described.
> Yet, judging by the Internet buzz, you'd expect my MacBook to have blown up by now.
Nope, but I don't expect them to be perfect after what I've seen.
> I've owned Apple Powerbooks since the Pismo. During these years, I've owned about 6 Powerbooks, at least half of them "first versions".
Most of the PPC systems I dealt with, were pretty alright in my expirence. Mostly ever had to deal with issues in bluetooth (Thank God for the firmware 1.2 update), wi-fi (Why the hell hasn't Apple fixed the high rate of failing Airport/Airport extreme cards anyway?).
> I've never had a problem with any one of them.
I've had the 'logic boards' just stop working on me. I have yet to expirence that on the x86 Windows/Linux PCs. Although I have expirenced some power supplies, litteraly, blow up on some PCs from the late 90s.
> Many of my friends have Macs.
Many of mine have multiple computers of various ranges, from Amigas to IBM servers (yes, that includes Macs). I don't really know why this relevent though?
> Only two had ever had to send theirs in. Both destroyed them while skateboarding and falling on their bags.
Ouch.
*snip*
> Dell had much more serious issues with actual batteries starting to burn, yet nobody even talks about it.
Trust me, people complain about Dell all the time.
> Apple gets a bad rap on the Internet, and it's not because the products are bad. It's because the customers expect perfection.
I thought it was because they kept suing people (which has been generally what I hear most of the time about Apple online).
> I'm not blaming them either, they have every right to expect it and I'm surprised that PC users accept all the crap that's thrown at them. I'm just pointing this out. I'm just pointing this out.
I don't know any people who accepts any crap being thrown at them. Be it hardware issues or software. I don't really know what you're trying to say with this point.
If you mean, being plagued by viruses, malware? I don't know anyone who would accept that and/or lives with it.
> Neither do I. But then again, my personal computer is a MacBook Pro.
So does that mean flickering LCDs (should be fixed in revision D), whining (should be fixed in revision D too), overheating (was reported to be fixed in revision D -- however people still reported issues) and airport wi-fi issues (which also were reported to be fixed in revision D -- However some people still report issues) and the battery life in most cases doesn't reach more than 2 hours and 30 minutes in my expirence.
> No, its not even a page. The SA forums have a *link* to a page on another server, owned by another entity. Even the original way it was an utter perversion of the law, but with a link its completely fucking ridiculous.
HP is pretty alright if you don't install the 'HP utilities' and/or 'driver utilities'. Pretty much like every other manufactorer. The hardware HP provides seems to be pretty stable.
Although, I'm more curious about, why the heck to companies keep making those? They flood the tray area with a billion icons which end up getting messed up later on with future windows updates.
> They're way worse than Macs. It's just that PC users don't care. The hinge on your notebook isn't properly attached to the screen? Well, it works, right? A key constantly falls off? Well, you can put it back on, right?
What the heck? IBM Thinkpads are supposed to be like armor. They survive plane crashes (like the black box) and continue to work, unharmed.
Codeweavers actually announced support for Dreamweaver and Flash (and photoshop actually) for Linux ages ago.
> Last time I tried Photoshop / Illustrator / Flash on WINE, it was very buggy at best.
The latest stable versions of WINE have been doing wonders for me (things are seriously working well for me under WINE now).
> When I said "commercial apps I can't get on Linux", I really meant "native support from vendors for commercial apps I can't get on Linux"... or something like that.
Does it really matter? I mean, look at Second life, it has a native Linux build, and the native Linux build has far more problems, less features than running the Windows version under WINE.
If you want support, you can get it from codeweavers. They *will* help you with *any* issues on supported software.
You know, I really think that advert is unjustified. I have to reboot the Mac for stupid codec installations. Windows and Mac, even though they're both based on a Microkernel, which in theory should never need to reboot. They need it all the time for updates, certain software installations etc.
Linux on the otherhand, is a monolithic/modular kernel, which criticisms were that you would need to reboot the system. Yet Linux seems to be far less rebooted than Windows and MacOSX.
> Linux may indeed run well but it lacks software, a unified UI, it has usability problems and lacks visibility in the general marketplace.
I have compared KDE 3.5.2 (with koffice) to Windows XP (with ms office), found it was more usable and had more of a unified UI than windows (with office) out of the box.
However the comment about visibility in the general marketplace is true.
Unfortunately, KDE and MacOSX share many issues, such as khtml/webkit being unremovable from the system (without breaking things), both being annoyingly slow, unlike Windows's IE (IE7 will no longer be tied to the OS). KDE and MacOSX do not handle UIs which were designed on another standard that well (wxwindows, GTK etc.), while Windows versions seem to have better support [see gaim, xchat, firefox etc]. When comparing Windows/Linux-KDE/MacOSX on the same hardware (tripple booting, wee!). Microsoft's software does tend to appear a lot snappier (faster) than both of the other systems. Microsoft Windows does also appear to launch opensource software than runs on all three platforms, faster too. Such as firefox.
Not really, you'll really want to use a more open format like.. say.. ogg or even mp3, which seems to be more universal.
I reccommend all of mp3 for music purchases, because it doesn't try to lock you into a single player, a single portable music player etc. Plus you can use the site from any OS, Windows, Linux, Macosx, Amigaos etc. It seems Apple likes to descriminate against the OSS community often. Not releasing Linux software, yet releasing software for the operating system they keep 'dissing' (as the Mac guy in the ads would probably call it).
>...The funniest thing was that on several occasions I had people in Windows PCs come up to me and ask me how I was able to connect to the Wireless network as they tried and couldn't make it work. > > My answer? "I just logged in, it saw the access point and logged in, nothing I had to do really." The look on their faces was priceless.
That's pretty much what I do under Windows and Linux...
Although my expirence with Apple was the famousissues with their cards (Plenty more evidence on Google).
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> Let's say Cable Company A wants to exhort Google and charge more (or else slower service). Google refuses. A begins to slow service. Google retaliates - and blocks all accesses coming from A. Customer can't get to Google....yell at Company A. Company says it's not our fault....Company B goes through fine.
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> Customers switch to Company B.
Actually, I think it would work like this:
> So why the fuck haven't the Russian authorities gotten their shit together?
They're a democracy now, that's why.
> Say Blue, if you ever have free time again, a Mac version would be grand.
Please, I'm begging you Mac users, stop spamming commenting systems with requests for a Mac version.
It's already bad enough when I'm looking at Skype plugins, I don't need it here. When I'm browsing to look at some useful comments on some software, I browse through hundreds of "Make a mac version!" requests, just to find ONE comment on the actual software.
Stop using comments for MacOSX port requests, it's annoying. Thankyou.
> Isn't the DDoS tag a little bit redundant for a submission which appears in Slashdot?
In a word, no.
> This is precisely what I'm talking about. I have no flickering, no whining, no overheating, no airport IBM xserveissues and it runs definitely more than 150 minutes on battery power.
I do actually run a IT department, and have seen all the issues I described.
> Yet, judging by the Internet buzz, you'd expect my MacBook to have blown up by now.
Nope, but I don't expect them to be perfect after what I've seen.
> I've owned Apple Powerbooks since the Pismo. During these years, I've owned about 6 Powerbooks, at least half of them "first versions".
Most of the PPC systems I dealt with, were pretty alright in my expirence. Mostly ever had to deal with issues in bluetooth (Thank God for the firmware 1.2 update), wi-fi (Why the hell hasn't Apple fixed the high rate of failing Airport/Airport extreme cards anyway?).
> I've never had a problem with any one of them.
I've had the 'logic boards' just stop working on me. I have yet to expirence that on the x86 Windows/Linux PCs. Although I have expirenced some power supplies, litteraly, blow up on some PCs from the late 90s.
> Many of my friends have Macs.
Many of mine have multiple computers of various ranges, from Amigas to IBM servers (yes, that includes Macs). I don't really know why this relevent though?
> Only two had ever had to send theirs in. Both destroyed them while skateboarding and falling on their bags.
Ouch.
*snip*
> Dell had much more serious issues with actual batteries starting to burn, yet nobody even talks about it.
Trust me, people complain about Dell all the time.
> Apple gets a bad rap on the Internet, and it's not because the products are bad. It's because the customers expect perfection.
I thought it was because they kept suing people (which has been generally what I hear most of the time about Apple online).
> I'm not blaming them either, they have every right to expect it and I'm surprised that PC users accept all the crap that's thrown at them. I'm just pointing this out. I'm just pointing this out.
I don't know any people who accepts any crap being thrown at them. Be it hardware issues or software. I don't really know what you're trying to say with this point.
If you mean, being plagued by viruses, malware? I don't know anyone who would accept that and/or lives with it.
> Neither do I. But then again, my personal computer is a MacBook Pro.
So does that mean flickering LCDs (should be fixed in revision D), whining (should be fixed in revision D too), overheating (was reported to be fixed in revision D -- however people still reported issues) and airport wi-fi issues (which also were reported to be fixed in revision D -- However some people still report issues) and the battery life in most cases doesn't reach more than 2 hours and 30 minutes in my expirence.
My question is, are those are compromises then?
> When designing a laptop, you always have to make some kinds of compromises.
I don't think keys popping off were a 'compromise'.
> No, its not even a page. The SA forums have a *link* to a page on another server, owned by another entity. Even the original way it was an utter perversion of the law, but with a link its completely fucking ridiculous.
At least we'll get new entertainment on SA's legal department.
> A single picture does not a service manual make.
It's all the same to a Apple user.
> This is just an engineering tradeoff, it wasn't an accident or a mistake.
Perhaps this is what happens when the 'same people' (according to Apple's advertisments) build the OS and hardware?
HP is pretty alright if you don't install the 'HP utilities' and/or 'driver utilities'. Pretty much like every other manufactorer. The hardware HP provides seems to be pretty stable.
Although, I'm more curious about, why the heck to companies keep making those? They flood the tray area with a billion icons which end up getting messed up later on with future windows updates.
> They're way worse than Macs. It's just that PC users don't care. The hinge on your notebook isn't properly attached to the screen? Well, it works, right? A key constantly falls off? Well, you can put it back on, right?
What the heck? IBM Thinkpads are supposed to be like armor. They survive plane crashes (like the black box) and continue to work, unharmed.
Don't worry, Apple know what they're doing!
After all they are a information technology company!
Hail Jobs, the Finder!
I meant creation of Flash. - Blah, I meant to respond that OpenOffice.org was fully capable of doing Flash animations for this, under that point.
> I meant creation of Flash.
... or something like that.
Codeweavers actually announced support for Dreamweaver and Flash (and photoshop actually) for Linux ages ago.
> Last time I tried Photoshop / Illustrator / Flash on WINE, it was very buggy at best.
The latest stable versions of WINE have been doing wonders for me (things are seriously working well for me under WINE now).
> When I said "commercial apps I can't get on Linux", I really meant "native support from vendors for commercial apps I can't get on Linux"
Does it really matter? I mean, look at Second life, it has a native Linux build, and the native Linux build has far more problems, less features than running the Windows version under WINE.
If you want support, you can get it from codeweavers. They *will* help you with *any* issues on supported software.
> My favorite clip is the restart one
You know, I really think that advert is unjustified. I have to reboot the Mac for stupid codec installations. Windows and Mac, even though they're both based on a Microkernel, which in theory should never need to reboot. They need it all the time for updates, certain software installations etc.
Linux on the otherhand, is a monolithic/modular kernel, which criticisms were that you would need to reboot the system. Yet Linux seems to be far less rebooted than Windows and MacOSX.
> Good thing Bootcamp comes with all of the drivers required for Windows then, eh?
Where are the drivers for light/motion sensors in MBP, Apple peripherals, the iSight web camera and what about the trackpad padding/scrolling?
The drivers included have crippled the keyboard and the soundcard (which has issues).
Perhaps it's 'running' by your standards, it isn't by mine.
> The second is called Boot camp and it permits me to run games on a kooky antique dollar-fed operating system. 537
Bootcamp is really just a fancy system installation prep tool and bootloader.
I really don't see Macintels that have a EFI which supports x86 BIOS standards like Dell has been for years with their EFI, innovative.
In otherwords, it's not a emulator.
My old MacOS classic viruses don't work on the new Macintels :(
> That would explain alot about the high dependancy on command line interfaces.
:O
Windows vista will feature a new commandline driven system. PCs existance are limited!
> Linux may indeed run well but it lacks software, a unified UI, it has usability problems and lacks visibility in the general marketplace.
I have compared KDE 3.5.2 (with koffice) to Windows XP (with ms office), found it was more usable and had more of a unified UI than windows (with office) out of the box.
However the comment about visibility in the general marketplace is true.
Unfortunately, KDE and MacOSX share many issues, such as khtml/webkit being unremovable from the system (without breaking things), both being annoyingly slow, unlike Windows's IE (IE7 will no longer be tied to the OS).
KDE and MacOSX do not handle UIs which were designed on another standard that well (wxwindows, GTK etc.), while Windows versions seem to have better support [see gaim, xchat, firefox etc].
When comparing Windows/Linux-KDE/MacOSX on the same hardware (tripple booting, wee!). Microsoft's software does tend to appear a lot snappier (faster) than both of the other systems. Microsoft Windows does also appear to launch opensource software than runs on all three platforms, faster too. Such as firefox.
> ...iTunes is necessary, but ONLY to buy songs...
Not really, you'll really want to use a more open format like.. say.. ogg or even mp3, which seems to be more universal.
I reccommend all of mp3 for music purchases, because it doesn't try to lock you into a single player, a single portable music player etc. Plus you can use the site from any OS, Windows, Linux, Macosx, Amigaos etc. It seems Apple likes to descriminate against the OSS community often. Not releasing Linux software, yet releasing software for the operating system they keep 'dissing' (as the Mac guy in the ads would probably call it).
> "...American government ..."
> no they didn't. To say so is ludicrious in the extreme.
I bestow the power of google on you.
Wikipedia also has some relevent information too.
> no they didn't.
Google kthnxbye
> ...The funniest thing was that on several occasions I had people in Windows PCs come up to me and ask me how I was able to connect to the Wireless network as they tried and couldn't make it work.
>
> My answer? "I just logged in, it saw the access point and logged in, nothing I had to do really." The look on their faces was priceless.
That's pretty much what I do under Windows and Linux...
Although my expirence with Apple was the famous issues with their cards (Plenty more evidence on Google).