Actually, I have removed the Internet Explorer active X component from windows. The only applications that complained were particulary, real player and x-fire.
Besides those two programs, other applications like winamp didn't complain (minibrowser was just a white window, showed nothing). I imagine MSN messenger and Outlook Express would complain too, but I don't use those applications.
ReactOS's IE active x replacement, which uses the Mozilla Gecko engine, also worked as a pretty good replacement:)
> Go to the XFCE desktop and you get even more speed, and while not for the non-tech savy, Fluxbox flies.
Of course it doesn't help much if the person is running a bunch of K application and hasn't started a session manager.
> I run Ubuntu on an old P2 machine with 256 RAM and the thing works beautifully. Smoother than XP.
I could probably get XP to run smoother with tweaks too, and hell knows there is a lot of things you can do.
> Do a couple of tweaks with the useless programs that start on bootup (mainly in relation to laptops) and your boot and shutdown process is a bit faster and is the experience using it.
Sounds like "disabling services" under Windows, I still don't expect the non-tech todo this.
> I'm currently using a Firefox fork on my main machine (Flock) and i'm loading pages faster than Opera does on any OS and takes less memory.
Good for you. My personal expirences however are quite different, Opera has a smaller memory footprint and 'snappier'. Unfortunately my 1GB of ram does not appease Firefox.
> How much older do you want to go to breathe new life into it? 486?
If you can get a decent desktop system working on a 486, I'd like to know.
> God knows why browsers do not store bookmarks as files in a "Bookmarks" folder. Slap me silly, but isn't this what IE has been doing for ages?
I seem to recall that back in IE3, IE used the same bookmarking format that mozzy browsers use.
Over the years, it's become a somewhat, semi-standard. Many places support uploading such bookmark files like Yahoo!. Being able to export and import such files from multiple files is really nice.
I find it funny that people pay for the xbox 360, xbox live monthly, a mmorpg game, the monthly mmorpg fee, the additional mmorpg monthly fees to get additional stuff.
Perhaps this is wrong of me. But I can't trust layouts to CSS.
I have to use tables instead otherwise it just won't display the same in IE/FF/MZ/O/Safari. I know that tables should be left to tabular data, however, I also know that tables work the same in all browsers, layouts in CSS rarely do.
The amazing thing is that my bank's site (Citibank) actually locks you out (claiming unsupported browser), if you get Opera to identify as it self. But works fine if you set it to identify itself as Mozilla or IE.
Linux is slower than windows 98 with anti-virus software (which is silly not to have under windows)?
Windows 98 is pretty stable without anti-virus software. But who would be silly enough to run it without such software?
Ah, found it. Thanks!
Complaining is power?
If that were the case, Microsoft would of been nuked off the planet with all the complaining on Slashdot.
30 seconds, holy crap. How many dialogs did you have to go through?
For those who are curious:
:)
Actually, I have removed the Internet Explorer active X component from windows. The only applications that complained were particulary, real player and x-fire.
Besides those two programs, other applications like winamp didn't complain (minibrowser was just a white window, showed nothing). I imagine MSN messenger and Outlook Express would complain too, but I don't use those applications.
ReactOS's IE active x replacement, which uses the Mozilla Gecko engine, also worked as a pretty good replacement
> IE will still export a Nutscrape-style Bookmark HTML file.
Unfortunately I can't find the option, where is it located?
I googled on the issue, but it seems my search terms didn't turn up anything relevent.
> It's a web browser. What are you expecting, Firefox to microwave your dinner?
No! I expect it to take back the web!
Hum. Tried Slackware, Xfce4, Opera?
(That seems to run well on older hardware here)
'ndiswrapper' may help you, with your wireless issues (lets you use Windows wireless drivers under Linux).
Original poster:
I to just typing "urpmi xorg-ati" on a friendlier distro.
> Try a new full featured distribution (The kind you could expect a non-tech to use) on old hardware
Parent poster:
> Gentoo tweaked out properly will run fast as hell, as will Ubuntu.
You expect a non-tech to use Gentoo?
I don't know any non-tech who'd want to wait a day for everything to compile.
Ubuntu isn't that user friendly, compare https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto/AT
> Go to the XFCE desktop and you get even more speed, and while not for the non-tech savy, Fluxbox flies.
Of course it doesn't help much if the person is running a bunch of K application and hasn't started a session manager.
> I run Ubuntu on an old P2 machine with 256 RAM and the thing works beautifully. Smoother than XP.
I could probably get XP to run smoother with tweaks too, and hell knows there is a lot of things you can do.
> Do a couple of tweaks with the useless programs that start on bootup (mainly in relation to laptops) and your boot and shutdown process is a bit faster and is the experience using it.
Sounds like "disabling services" under Windows, I still don't expect the non-tech todo this.
> I'm currently using a Firefox fork on my main machine (Flock) and i'm loading pages faster than Opera does on any OS and takes less memory.
Good for you. My personal expirences however are quite different, Opera has a smaller memory footprint and 'snappier'. Unfortunately my 1GB of ram does not appease Firefox.
> How much older do you want to go to breathe new life into it? 486?
If you can get a decent desktop system working on a 486, I'd like to know.
> God knows why browsers do not store bookmarks as files in a "Bookmarks" folder. Slap me silly, but isn't this what IE has been doing for ages?
I seem to recall that back in IE3, IE used the same bookmarking format that mozzy browsers use.
Over the years, it's become a somewhat, semi-standard. Many places support uploading such bookmark files like Yahoo!. Being able to export and import such files from multiple files is really nice.
Preferibly they should use LDAP for multi-user things.
"Do you use Firefox?"
"No"
"Take back the internet, get Firefox!"
"I can't, I only have 1GB of RAM!"
> Well, who's laughing now?
Me.
I find it funny that people pay for the xbox 360, xbox live monthly, a mmorpg game, the monthly mmorpg fee, the additional mmorpg monthly fees to get additional stuff.
> Most people IRC as root, including me, because they run mIRC in Windows.
Give me a automated method to identify if users are IRC'in under a Administrator account under Windows, please.
Perhaps this is wrong of me. But I can't trust layouts to CSS.
I have to use tables instead otherwise it just won't display the same in IE/FF/MZ/O/Safari.
I know that tables should be left to tabular data, however, I also know that tables work the same in all browsers, layouts in CSS rarely do.
This is what makes me stick to 'bad practices'.
The amazing thing is that my bank's site (Citibank) actually locks you out (claiming unsupported browser), if you get Opera to identify as it self. But works fine if you set it to identify itself as Mozilla or IE.
<center><blink>You have a message!</blink></center>
> They face the potential of opening a Pandora's Box of both legal and economic chaos.
Pandora's box also contained hope.
> Pretty laughable.
Quite.
> They still havn't got full NTFS support in Linux yet.
Oh really?
> Perhaps they should concentrate on their 1st....
Their first is supporting Microsoft's broken proprietory technology? Who knew.
> How many Slashdotters do you think there are?
Enough to take down websites just by giving them a link.
> Since when are all Slashdot users also Linux users.
Slashdot users do EVERYTHING. How else could you explain their superior knowledge on law, computing, radio, telecommunications etc. ?
By the way, my previous post was meant to be a 'ha ha' joke.
> How do you explain a company making free software and not porting it to niche markets with little demand???
Slashdot is a niche market?
The bare minimum I can install is Konqueror and some libs for kdebase.
No control center, no file manager, no text editor.
I'm sure I could remove Konqueror with 'rpm -e --nodeps konqueror' and it would work fine. But I am too lazy to try.
> I'm still waiting for THAT argument.
When theres a will, theres a way.