Yes, you got CD's which you weren't allowed to
give away and which were time limited. I can't remember if I got source as well. I did get a boxed set of Corel given to me when it finally came out - but since it wouldn't boot on my
SCSI card machine it wasn't much use:)
Corel basically forked Debian. At the time, Libranet were doing the same but did much less.
Xandros came along later, Lindows/Linspire bought code from Xandros. The annoying thing is that they didn't release a WP / Corel Draw etc. for
"vanilla" Debian or Red Hat. Corel also have a habit of buying smaller products, running with them for a while then killing them. I'd PAY MONEY
for a copy of Ventura Publisher, which is hardly produced any more or be prepared to buy the rights and produce a Linux version. I was also a Corel Linux beta tester and signed NDA's - the bugs I reported carried through into the final versions and that meant that you couldn't boot the distro on certain hardware:(
Ian Nandhra of Lasermoon in UK - who sold and promoted Linux-FT - created OpenNT to move Linux
POSIX code and utilities onto a Windows environment. OpenNT got threatened with a law suit - changed to Integrix - and were bought out by Microsoft. Code was later released as SFU by Microsoft which may well be the direct descendant
of Linux-FT and Ian's work. Ian put the Linux kernel through POSIX compliance - see dmesg - but has now vanished off the planet. I'd like to talk to him at some point about FT and the origins of UK based Linux firms in 1994 or so:)
The lingua franca for packages is the.tar.gz.
The gold standard for packaging is the.deb. I suspect they put in the.rpm compatibility just because they could:)
Andaman Islands. There _was_ a pre-arranged DXpedition to put the rare islands on the air. No
one expected the tsunami - they handled virtually
all the emergency traffic for four days solid and
made something crazy like 100,000 contacts to do so. UK floods this year put out police fire and ambulance radio in one town - amateurs stepped in.
London bomb - no - but UK amateurs aren't allowed
to pass third party messages in the same way as in the US. Emergency planning officers in UK have amateur radio in their permanent posts for a reason. [amacater also G8UBG / G0EVX:) ]
If you know someone with a Debian mirror (Hi Phil:) ) and have a copy of jigdo, then you can get.jigdo files and build your own CD's. I've a non-networked machine at work - and a local mirror.
Using jigdo allows me to build the CD's for any
architecture and is a preferred method of Debian CD distribution as it spreads the load.
The testing has been taking place. Various people
have done this over a period of time. It is worth
doing an update gradually anyway and checking what's being upgraded in any event. KDE3 is sufficiently different from KDE2 such that you can't just "upgrade" but you end up with release notes that explain what to do in reasonable detail, for example. Or you can update five or ten packages at a time. If you need to upgrade hundreds of servers, upgrade ten as a test case, for example, and then update the rest.
There is value in saving old tech: if you need a sound editing machine, two soundcards can be better than one, old network cards are useful for making firewalls from your new motherboard - and so on. All of my machines on my home network use cards bought for pennies that are still useful, BUT
if you have a motherboard failure with lots of black smoke then you may have compromised other components. One person I know keeps a known good bare motherboard and old PSU mounted in an old box just to act as a testbed, plugging one card in at a time to check
Ian Nandhra - produced OpenNT (which was almost
immediately renamed to ???? Integrix ???? following
Microsoft intervention) specifically to provide a full POSIX subsystem - he had been working on Linux FT prior to this. The company got bought out by Microsoft and its legacy may survive in SFU
(Services for Unix). Ian appears to have dropped off the 'Net at some point - as author of the Linux Distributions HOWTO, I'd quite like to find him to clarify some points:)
Especially Glenn Gould - the sleeve notes I have
for the Glenn Gould 48 emphasise how particular he
was about tuning and how he attempted to modify a particular Steinway to produce the sound he wanted - somewhere between a harpsichord and piano - such that some pieces recorded sounded so poor that the
takes could not be released and had to be composited. Gould would be interesting to hear in any event - they'd have to dub in the humming:)
Close to us here is a mechanical music museum which plays origianl Gershwin recordings on a special player piano. Apparently, at one point there were only about 12 recording mechanical pianos world-wide.
It may be an "Open Source" licence, certified by
the OSI - but it's not "Debian-free" according to the Debian Free Software Guidelines (on which the OSI is based) by my understanding. The OSI is currently trying to limit the number of Open Source licence variants. In accepting this one, they've accepted something that most of the community either can't or won't use. I would suggest that dual licensing of code will only increase or that some people will actively exclude OpenSolaris from using their code [in the same way that OpenMotif (R) is licensed only for use on free software - all else you pay for].
Ubuntu can potentially take the lead to create a one disk desktop distribution and the basis for some customised Debian distributions on three or
four platforms. Debian provides infrastructure on 11 architectures and a wider selection of packages, some of which Ubuntu choose to mirror in their universes. Both distributions need the other to some extent and there is no particular "one size fits all" mentality for either of them.
Talking to someone putting in a cluster the other day - air cooled, two racks - 7.5kW or so of heat.
He mentioned that IBM were talking, seriously, about water cooling the doors of the racks in order to maximise the effectiveness of chilled air.
The consequences of leaks can be left to the imagination - but there's nothing intrinsically wrong in the idea
Debian - should support virtually any Cyrillic/Uralic character set. Supports Chinese/Japanese/Korean in a multitude of input methods. I installed multi-lingual Emacs yesterday with all the fonts I had available. 550M of fonts - and 20 or so languages displayed on the help page . There should be support for multi-lingual xterms or equivalents - and enough locales for anybody. This tested using "testing" / sarge and "unstable" / sid.
I can't spell Gardner correctly. The referenced Austrian museum in the article on Slashdot has a copy of your article as a.pdf. Whether they should or not, is another matter:) I've emailed you a copy to your address at scoriton.demon.co.uk - hope this helps.
Anybody else notice the unintentioned irony of
the links. Jargon file references to the second
system effect and Fred Brooks followed immediately
by IBM ads:)
One thing you can do with a.deb because of the internal format: you can unpack it with relatively standard unix tools. ar -x on a.deb will unpack it , mv the tar file to root then untar it there and all the files will magically drop into the appropriate places. Can't do that with rpm as far as I know. Saved my machine when I managed to hose it and had to put on individual packages until I could recover it.
Re:Netcraft now confirms: Debian is obsolete
on
Debian 3.0r4 Released
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Move to Debian Testing (Sarge) which should be released as Stable soon. Includes Gnome 2.8 and will include KDE 3.3 when it filters through. D-devel has always been a bit like that anyway, FreeBSD will possibly not give your boss what he wants or give you the breadth of readily installable packages.
The indian ocean tectonic plates are historically
very active. Look at the major earthquakes and a lot are in/round Java. Ditto volcano eruptions:
Tambora 1813?? and Krakatau 1883 Just one of those
things - it will happen again in due course when the plates move again. There were apparently three plate shifts - one of them almost immediately off the Andaman isalnds, but the first was down near Aceh.
A good colleague - Hi Ryan:) - who builds computers in his spare time left a brand new 80GB
hard drive on the roof nd drove off. It bounced a couple of times and got driven over. His mistake was to attempt to send it back for a warranty refund:) Not just women - it happens to all sorts
of people for all sorts of reasons:)
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Yes, you got CD's which you weren't allowed to give away and which were time limited. I can't remember if I got source as well. I did get a boxed set of Corel given to me when it finally came out - but since it wouldn't boot on my SCSI card machine it wasn't much use :)
Corel basically forked Debian. At the time, Libranet were doing the same but did much less. Xandros came along later, Lindows/Linspire bought code from Xandros. The annoying thing is that they didn't release a WP / Corel Draw etc. for "vanilla" Debian or Red Hat. Corel also have a habit of buying smaller products, running with them for a while then killing them. I'd PAY MONEY for a copy of Ventura Publisher, which is hardly produced any more or be prepared to buy the rights and produce a Linux version. I was also a Corel Linux beta tester and signed NDA's - the bugs I reported carried through into the final versions and that meant that you couldn't boot the distro on certain hardware :(
Etch installer can certainly do so :)
Andy
Ian Nandhra of Lasermoon in UK - who sold and promoted Linux-FT - created OpenNT to move Linux POSIX code and utilities onto a Windows environment. OpenNT got threatened with a law suit - changed to Integrix - and were bought out by Microsoft. Code was later released as SFU by Microsoft which may well be the direct descendant of Linux-FT and Ian's work. Ian put the Linux kernel through POSIX compliance - see dmesg - but has now vanished off the planet. I'd like to talk to him at some point about FT and the origins of UK based Linux firms in 1994 or so :)
Scribus - more PDF compliant than some Adobe products :)
The lingua franca for packages is the .tar.gz.
The gold standard for packaging is the .deb. I suspect they put in the .rpm compatibility just because they could :)
Andaman Islands. There _was_ a pre-arranged DXpedition to put the rare islands on the air. No one expected the tsunami - they handled virtually all the emergency traffic for four days solid and made something crazy like 100,000 contacts to do so. UK floods this year put out police fire and ambulance radio in one town - amateurs stepped in. London bomb - no - but UK amateurs aren't allowed to pass third party messages in the same way as in the US. Emergency planning officers in UK have amateur radio in their permanent posts for a reason. [amacater also G8UBG / G0EVX :) ]
If you know someone with a Debian mirror (Hi Phil :) ) and have a copy of jigdo, then you can get .jigdo files and build your own CD's. I've a non-networked machine at work - and a local mirror.
Using jigdo allows me to build the CD's for any
architecture and is a preferred method of Debian CD distribution as it spreads the load.
The testing has been taking place. Various people have done this over a period of time. It is worth doing an update gradually anyway and checking what's being upgraded in any event. KDE3 is sufficiently different from KDE2 such that you can't just "upgrade" but you end up with release notes that explain what to do in reasonable detail, for example. Or you can update five or ten packages at a time. If you need to upgrade hundreds of servers, upgrade ten as a test case, for example, and then update the rest.
There is value in saving old tech: if you need a sound editing machine, two soundcards can be better than one, old network cards are useful for making firewalls from your new motherboard - and so on. All of my machines on my home network use cards bought for pennies that are still useful, BUT if you have a motherboard failure with lots of black smoke then you may have compromised other components. One person I know keeps a known good bare motherboard and old PSU mounted in an old box just to act as a testbed, plugging one card in at a time to check
Ian Nandhra - produced OpenNT (which was almost immediately renamed to ???? Integrix ???? following Microsoft intervention) specifically to provide a full POSIX subsystem - he had been working on Linux FT prior to this. The company got bought out by Microsoft and its legacy may survive in SFU (Services for Unix). Ian appears to have dropped off the 'Net at some point - as author of the Linux Distributions HOWTO, I'd quite like to find him to clarify some points :)
Especially Glenn Gould - the sleeve notes I have for the Glenn Gould 48 emphasise how particular he was about tuning and how he attempted to modify a particular Steinway to produce the sound he wanted - somewhere between a harpsichord and piano - such that some pieces recorded sounded so poor that the takes could not be released and had to be composited. Gould would be interesting to hear in any event - they'd have to dub in the humming :)
Close to us here is a mechanical music museum which plays origianl Gershwin recordings on a special player piano. Apparently, at one point there were only about 12 recording mechanical pianos world-wide.
It may be an "Open Source" licence, certified by the OSI - but it's not "Debian-free" according to the Debian Free Software Guidelines (on which the OSI is based) by my understanding. The OSI is currently trying to limit the number of Open Source licence variants. In accepting this one, they've accepted something that most of the community either can't or won't use. I would suggest that dual licensing of code will only increase or that some people will actively exclude OpenSolaris from using their code [in the same way that OpenMotif (R) is licensed only for use on free software - all else you pay for].
Ubuntu can potentially take the lead to create a one disk desktop distribution and the basis for some customised Debian distributions on three or four platforms. Debian provides infrastructure on 11 architectures and a wider selection of packages, some of which Ubuntu choose to mirror in their universes. Both distributions need the other to some extent and there is no particular "one size fits all" mentality for either of them.
Talking to someone putting in a cluster the other day - air cooled, two racks - 7.5kW or so of heat. He mentioned that IBM were talking, seriously, about water cooling the doors of the racks in order to maximise the effectiveness of chilled air. The consequences of leaks can be left to the imagination - but there's nothing intrinsically wrong in the idea
Debian - should support virtually any Cyrillic/Uralic character set. Supports Chinese/Japanese/Korean in a multitude of input methods. I installed multi-lingual Emacs yesterday
with all the fonts I had available. 550M of fonts
- and 20 or so languages displayed on the help page . There should be support for multi-lingual xterms
or equivalents - and enough locales for anybody.
This tested using "testing" / sarge and "unstable" / sid.
I can't spell Gardner correctly. The referenced .pdf. Whether they :) I've emailed
Austrian museum in the article on Slashdot has
a copy of your article as a
should or not, is another matter
you a copy to your address at scoriton.demon.co.uk
- hope this helps.
Thanks for crediting Adam and Michael (also :)
cited by Martin Gardiner at some point). This
was considerable thinking by a couple of undergraduates
Anybody else notice the unintentioned irony of the links. Jargon file references to the second system effect and Fred Brooks followed immediately by IBM ads :)
One thing you can do with a .deb because of the .deb will unpack it , mv the tar file to root then untar it there and all the files will magically drop into the appropriate places. Can't do that with rpm as far as I know. Saved my machine when I managed to hose it and had to put on individual packages until I could recover it.
internal format: you can unpack it with relatively standard unix tools. ar -x on a
Move to Debian Testing (Sarge) which should be released as Stable soon. Includes Gnome 2.8 and will
include KDE 3.3 when it filters through. D-devel
has always been a bit like that anyway, FreeBSD will
possibly not give your boss what he wants or give you the breadth of readily installable packages.
The indian ocean tectonic plates are historically very active. Look at the major earthquakes and a lot are in/round Java. Ditto volcano eruptions: Tambora 1813?? and Krakatau 1883 Just one of those things - it will happen again in due course when the plates move again. There were apparently three plate shifts - one of them almost immediately off the Andaman isalnds, but the first was down near Aceh.
A good colleague - Hi Ryan :) - who builds computers in his spare time left a brand new 80GB
hard drive on the roof nd drove off. It bounced a couple of times and got driven over. His mistake was to attempt to send it back for a warranty refund :) Not just women - it happens to all sorts
of people for all sorts of reasons :)