Good Lord, really? How's it doing now? Got a 'droid' on it too or are you using the special video card with the correct i/f - what was it called now...LVDI or something?
Did I mention I have a TiBook? That's gotta be about 6 years old now.
No. I gave OS X a try for several years. It wasn't easy sticking with it, but the cost of the thing helped, and that it was portable so I would almost always have it with me.
In the end though, no, it didn't work out. Sorry.
Yes, I installed Ubuntu/PPC on my TiBook and wiped out OS X completely - that was last year. I missed iMovie and iDVD enough that I recently started making it a dual boot between OS X and Ubuntu. A dual boot is also useful for testing h/w failures - it's getting old:|
Well, sure, it's not the 'command line' itself, but the other 'stuff' behind the scenes.
Like a lot of the stuff in/etc and the way various other things are supposed to work, but which Apple have changed- they seem to have moved things into some kind of registry, kind of like on MS Windows. It's just too different back there - similar enough for some, I'm sure....but, yes, that's not 'the command line' per se, so you're right in that respect.
X11... for a start, I have to actually decide to run it, while it is already running on linux/unix. OK, I could run it at login time, but all the applications don't work because they're not X. Cut and paste don't work properly and consistently. Windows don't interact correctly with non-X windows. Icons in the dock aren't 'right' - grouped separately or something (never quite worked out what was happening). I haven't made a list, and I gave up using it in earnest a while ago, so my memory is fading.
Right, that's not strictly X11 either.
Both the command line and X11 are likely largely identical to their linux/unix counter parts, but the problems are related to changes made to systems behind the scenes, or are the result of shoeing horning them into a different architecture.
> The only thing I miss is the command line, I know OS X has one but it's just not the same.
Right, and X11 isn't the same either. That's what keeps me from using it, and I own a couple of them - TiBook and Mac Mini - both running OS X and sitting idle (or off) while I use my FC6 Linux box. If I didn't have the FC6 box, then I'd be using one of them - I don't run Microsoft.
Actually, if those are the only two options (iMac/OSX and Dell/Vista), I'd have the Dell and nuke Vista to hell with Ubuntu.
> But I think that it's worth moving outside the box of the question. A number of others did too,
...including the guy critizing you for doing so. Here's his last sentence (well, it's a poor excuse for a sentence, but anyway) :
> Or let's say you were given one for free and had to keep it, which one would you pick. And why?
I also note that *he* didn't bother answering the question either.
FWIW, if I had to pick between the Dell w/Vista and Imac w/OSX, I'd have the latter; but, like you, I want a "secret option number 'c'" - I want the Dell w/Ubuntu - since I don't like Vista or OS X and consider them both taxes.
What is this "less road space" business people keep throwing out here. Most states require bikes to occupy one full lane, just like a car. Very few allow side-by-side driving (it's really quite dangerous, you know. )
NONE allow between-the-lanes driving that may bikers seem to be getting away with. And if they did, it wouldn't be very helpful as it forces the rest of the drivers to slow down, forming extremely inefficient traffic waves for miles behind. Untrue. Lane splitting is legal in California. Right - IIRC, the rules in CA concern speed difference.
Other points are :
0) you say 'most' states - so that's not every state, 1) there are more places than 'states' (other countries!) with different rules about sharing lanes, and 2) there are more options about sharing lanes than 'a whole lane' and 'side-by-side' - for example, you can have, in the space of one car, one bike at the front left and one at the back right. IIRC, this is recommended practice in the UK, 3) it's only significantly dangerous when the drivers aren't expecting it - in the UK, for example, they teach (shock!) drivers to look for bikes next to their cars before maneuvering, 4) rules are artificial restrictions - the bikes still take up less space, even if nothing takes up the extra space, which has other benefits (visibility for cars, for one, which should reduce accidents).
Furthermore, almost all bikes are just plain shorter than almost all cars, so they take up less road space in that respect too.
OK, so I don't understand what you're trying to prove.
You say that an average bike is as good performance as your camaro (not a particularly valid comparison, but it seems to be in the bike's favour, so never mind), and yet the bike gets much better efficiency (typically in excess of 40mpg, compared to your quoted 30mpg). I don't think the relationship is supposed to be arimetic but geometric, so that's somewhere near what I would expect.
Are you trying to suggest that removing two wheels from your camaro would make it more efficient that the avarage bike?;) I suspect not.
...or are you saying that they *should be* more efficient (ie it's your opinion)? I've already shown that they *can* be as (or more) efficient as what you seem to be expecting.
Oh! Re-reading your post, I see that you *are* saying that. It is just your expectation that is not met.
IMO, a more valid complaint is that the more efficient bikes aren't more popular; but that's the fault of the population who choose the bikes, not the bike tech per se.
The fact is, there's a wide range of efficiencies for both bikes and cars. What people choose to drive is the issue; and I can't say I've been that impressed with the choices car drivers make (in CA, particularly).
I mean some people drive *Camaros* that only get 30mpg under good conditions, where a Corolla would be much more efficient (even on a bad day).
Heck, a Kawasaki ZX6 is much more efficient and uses up less road space, and is (therefore) quicker to get you to your destination in typical CA traffic, AND has higher performance to boot (apart from corners, of course), if that's your bag. Though, last time I looked, it doesn't have a cat, so probably polutes faster than a camaro, but I'm not sure about that either, esp for CA bikes which have special restrictions.
Anyway....too many assertions without proof here, so it seems like a pointless argument.
how about comparing it with a car of similar performance?
never mind that is uses less road space than a car (1/2?), and it needs to be on the road for less time because it doesn't get stuck in traffic (as much).
Of course, some motorcycles can get mpgs that are around or even exceed 300mpg - though, AFAICT, not production and IMO not particularly interesting to buy - perhaps it wouldn't look out of place in California. Someone here claims 400mpg : http://www.suzukicycles.org/high_milage_suzuki.shtml
I'm not saying I agree or disagree with his belief that glass is not a liquid (or whatever), just that, on that web page, he presents a poor argument and shows little to no conclusive evidence to support his belief. Almost all of it is speculation - sometimes he even states as much.
Also, people would probably only want to keep stuff around for a little while - to minimize being spotted by the likes of the MPAA. Of course, if it were made explicitly legal, then perhaps this is realistic.
Sure I have. I haven't travelled much *inside* the US - mostly CA/NYC, but also Florida, New Orleans, San Diego, Washington DC, LA, Chippewa Falls, and Dallas. I've not done a survey, but I've also not noticed the bacon being any different anywhere I've been in the US. I prefer what the US call 'Canadian' bacon, but it's doesn't compare with European bacon, IMO.
Actually, I just came back from Bali and Singapore and the bacon there wasn't too good either. In China (where I live) they offer 'European style' bacon, which is more like what I expect. I vaguely recall my US friends facetiously calling it 'ham'. They seemed to like the fatty bacon. Not me:|
The Danes make the best bacon, IMO. No, I'm not from Denmark.
Well, I was thinking of the bacon at Safeway, and that's not the only place I've shopped - I've not seen anything anywhere which is any good. I'm not trolling; it's true. US bacon makes for an excellent lubricant.
I'm thinking they said that because we now have to rely on a single company to fix it - though that isn't true either since, as I read it, a lot of authoring tools need fixing, not just Adobe's.
I wonder if that open source authoring tool and player also contain the problem. If so, it'd be interesting to see how quickly they're fixed.
If you wrap it in bacon first, *anything* goes down smoothly. Especially that horrible excuse for bacon you get in the US which is mostly fat. Quite a good lubricant, I'm sure.
Well, I read something similar about map makers in NYC not being allowed to make their maps available because it would aid terrorists....I forget the exact details, but it sounds awefully similar.
Why don't you blame the companies for lack of quality control? It's the companies lack of standards that are the main problem here, not (just) China's....or at least ignorance of Chinese tendency to 'cut corners' and other scam-like behaviour (anything to increase profit). That was my first thought when I heard about the lead thing, 'Ha! Ignorant US fools. They should have expected that and put some decent quality control in place.'. Then I thought it's probably not as simple as that...but still.
It's not only cheap stuff, it's expensive stuff too. Pretty much anything that requires labour, which is cheap in China, is made here.
I'm using a Dell monitor and I look on the back and it says 'made in china'. I have an HP monitor too that was also made in China - though it wasn't for sale in China (I had to buy it in the US at high US prices and bring it back to China). My Apple TiBook was made in China too (Taiwan, IIRC, so it's probably a different case).
I think that's true of a lot of products - they're made in China because the labour is cheap, but they're not sold here. That's why western companies want to do business here - it's not to sell to Chinese people, but to exploit them - not necessarily in a bad way, but it makes them (the western companies) dependant on China.
When the Chinese population become more wealthy, then western companies will be more interested in selling here.
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I'll have you know that fat guys go through laptops just as fast as thin guys, even if they are at a twinkie convention.
Good Lord, really? How's it doing now? Got a 'droid' on it too or are you using the special video card with the correct i/f - what was it called now...LVDI or something?
> transitional problems
:|
Did I mention I have a TiBook? That's gotta be about 6 years old now.
No. I gave OS X a try for several years. It wasn't easy sticking with it, but the cost of the thing helped, and that it was portable so I would almost always have it with me.
In the end though, no, it didn't work out. Sorry.
Yes, I installed Ubuntu/PPC on my TiBook and wiped out OS X completely - that was last year. I missed iMovie and iDVD enough that I recently started making it a dual boot between OS X and Ubuntu. A dual boot is also useful for testing h/w failures - it's getting old
Well, sure, it's not the 'command line' itself, but the other 'stuff' behind the scenes.
/etc and the way various other things are supposed to work, but which Apple have changed- they seem to have moved things into some kind of registry, kind of like on MS Windows. It's just too different back there - similar enough for some, I'm sure. ...but, yes, that's not 'the command line' per se, so you're right in that respect.
... for a start, I have to actually decide to run it, while it is already running on linux/unix. OK, I could run it at login time, but all the applications don't work because they're not X. Cut and paste don't work properly and consistently. Windows don't interact correctly with non-X windows. Icons in the dock aren't 'right' - grouped separately or something (never quite worked out what was happening). I haven't made a list, and I gave up using it in earnest a while ago, so my memory is fading.
Like a lot of the stuff in
X11
Right, that's not strictly X11 either.
Both the command line and X11 are likely largely identical to their linux/unix counter parts, but the problems are related to changes made to systems behind the scenes, or are the result of shoeing horning them into a different architecture.
> The only thing I miss is the command line, I know OS X has one but it's just not the same.
Right, and X11 isn't the same either. That's what keeps me from using it, and I own a couple of them - TiBook and Mac Mini - both running OS X and sitting idle (or off) while I use my FC6 Linux box. If I didn't have the FC6 box, then I'd be using one of them - I don't run Microsoft.
Actually, if those are the only two options (iMac/OSX and Dell/Vista), I'd have the Dell and nuke Vista to hell with Ubuntu.
> But I think that it's worth moving outside the box of the question. A number of others did too,
...including the guy critizing you for doing so. Here's his last sentence (well, it's a poor excuse for a sentence, but anyway) :
> Or let's say you were given one for free and had to keep it, which one would you pick. And why?
I also note that *he* didn't bother answering the question either.
FWIW, if I had to pick between the Dell w/Vista and Imac w/OSX, I'd have the latter; but, like you, I want a "secret option number 'c'" - I want the Dell w/Ubuntu - since I don't like Vista or OS X and consider them both taxes.
NONE allow between-the-lanes driving that may bikers seem to be getting away with. And if they did, it wouldn't be very helpful as it forces the rest of the drivers to slow down, forming extremely inefficient traffic waves for miles behind. Untrue. Lane splitting is legal in California. Right - IIRC, the rules in CA concern speed difference.
Other points are :
0) you say 'most' states - so that's not every state,
1) there are more places than 'states' (other countries!) with different rules about sharing lanes, and
2) there are more options about sharing lanes than 'a whole lane' and 'side-by-side' - for example, you can have, in the space of one car, one bike at the front left and one at the back right. IIRC, this is recommended practice in the UK,
3) it's only significantly dangerous when the drivers aren't expecting it - in the UK, for example, they teach (shock!) drivers to look for bikes next to their cars before maneuvering,
4) rules are artificial restrictions - the bikes still take up less space, even if nothing takes up the extra space, which has other benefits (visibility for cars, for one, which should reduce accidents).
Furthermore, almost all bikes are just plain shorter than almost all cars, so they take up less road space in that respect too.
OK, so I don't understand what you're trying to prove.
;) I suspect not.
...or are you saying that they *should be* more efficient (ie it's your opinion)? I've already shown that they *can* be as (or more) efficient as what you seem to be expecting.
You say that an average bike is as good performance as your camaro (not a particularly valid comparison, but it seems to be in the bike's favour, so never mind), and yet the bike gets much better efficiency (typically in excess of 40mpg, compared to your quoted 30mpg). I don't think the relationship is supposed to be arimetic but geometric, so that's somewhere near what I would expect.
Are you trying to suggest that removing two wheels from your camaro would make it more efficient that the avarage bike?
Oh! Re-reading your post, I see that you *are* saying that. It is just your expectation that is not met.
IMO, a more valid complaint is that the more efficient bikes aren't more popular; but that's the fault of the population who choose the bikes, not the bike tech per se.
The fact is, there's a wide range of efficiencies for both bikes and cars. What people choose to drive is the issue; and I can't say I've been that impressed with the choices car drivers make (in CA, particularly).
I mean some people drive *Camaros* that only get 30mpg under good conditions, where a Corolla would be much more efficient (even on a bad day).
Heck, a Kawasaki ZX6 is much more efficient and uses up less road space, and is (therefore) quicker to get you to your destination in typical CA traffic, AND has higher performance to boot (apart from corners, of course), if that's your bag. Though, last time I looked, it doesn't have a cat, so probably polutes faster than a camaro, but I'm not sure about that either, esp for CA bikes which have special restrictions.
Anyway....too many assertions without proof here, so it seems like a pointless argument.
you're joking, right?
how about comparing it with a car of similar performance?
never mind that is uses less road space than a car (1/2?), and it needs to be on the road for less time because it doesn't get stuck in traffic (as much).
Of course, some motorcycles can get mpgs that are around or even exceed 300mpg - though, AFAICT, not production and IMO not particularly interesting to buy - perhaps it wouldn't look out of place in California. Someone here claims 400mpg : http://www.suzukicycles.org/high_milage_suzuki.shtml
..."pornographic internet advertisements"
I read that as 'phonographic internet advertisements'.
I'm so embarrassed.
Much like the original and present meanings of the word 'perfect'.
eh? I, for one, am getting old. Care to enlighten (at least) me?Yup, the rest of that page is unconvincing too.
I'm not saying I agree or disagree with his belief that glass is not a liquid (or whatever), just that, on that web page, he presents a poor argument and shows little to no conclusive evidence to support his belief. Almost all of it is speculation - sometimes he even states as much.
I'm reading that now. The first point disturbs me and makes me not want to read the rest (but I will).
... has nothing to do with whether glass is a solid or a liquid",
...but I'll read on regardless.
He quotes Plumb who says :
"there seem to have been no statistical studies"
and
"This author believes that the correct explanation lies...".
From that, Florin Neumann feels it is ok to say :
"In other words"...
"there are no statistical studies",
"variations in thickness
and
"its cause lies in the glass manufacturing process employed at the time..."
Quite how he can read what he's quoted and infer from that what he does, I have no idea.
I guess he should have said, "In other completely different words...".
It seems to me that he's setting out with the aim of disproving the myth, not finding out whether it's true or not.
Also, people would probably only want to keep stuff around for a little while - to minimize being spotted by the likes of the MPAA. Of course, if it were made explicitly legal, then perhaps this is realistic.
Thanks. I'll remember that, should I ever get back to the US (I'm hoping next month, but we'll see).
LOL :)
Sure I have. I haven't travelled much *inside* the US - mostly CA/NYC, but also Florida, New Orleans, San Diego, Washington DC, LA, Chippewa Falls, and Dallas. I've not done a survey, but I've also not noticed the bacon being any different anywhere I've been in the US. I prefer what the US call 'Canadian' bacon, but it's doesn't compare with European bacon, IMO.
:|
Actually, I just came back from Bali and Singapore and the bacon there wasn't too good either. In China (where I live) they offer 'European style' bacon, which is more like what I expect. I vaguely recall my US friends facetiously calling it 'ham'. They seemed to like the fatty bacon. Not me
The Danes make the best bacon, IMO. No, I'm not from Denmark.
Well, I was thinking of the bacon at Safeway, and that's not the only place I've shopped - I've not seen anything anywhere which is any good. I'm not trolling; it's true. US bacon makes for an excellent lubricant.
I'm thinking they said that because we now have to rely on a single company to fix it - though that isn't true either since, as I read it, a lot of authoring tools need fixing, not just Adobe's.
I wonder if that open source authoring tool and player also contain the problem. If so, it'd be interesting to see how quickly they're fixed.
...think about things completely differently
"Different ly "???Well, I read something similar about map makers in NYC not being allowed to make their maps available because it would aid terrorists....I forget the exact details, but it sounds awefully similar.
Why don't you blame the companies for lack of quality control? It's the companies lack of standards that are the main problem here, not (just) China's. ...or at least ignorance of Chinese tendency to 'cut corners' and other scam-like behaviour (anything to increase profit). That was my first thought when I heard about the lead thing, 'Ha! Ignorant US fools. They should have expected that and put some decent quality control in place.'. Then I thought it's probably not as simple as that...but still.
Of course, Chinese people would probably argue that Japanese originated in China anyway...
It's not only cheap stuff, it's expensive stuff too. Pretty much anything that requires labour, which is cheap in China, is made here.
I'm using a Dell monitor and I look on the back and it says 'made in china'. I have an HP monitor too that was also made in China - though it wasn't for sale in China (I had to buy it in the US at high US prices and bring it back to China). My Apple TiBook was made in China too (Taiwan, IIRC, so it's probably a different case).
I think that's true of a lot of products - they're made in China because the labour is cheap, but they're not sold here. That's why western companies want to do business here - it's not to sell to Chinese people, but to exploit them - not necessarily in a bad way, but it makes them (the western companies) dependant on China.
When the Chinese population become more wealthy, then western companies will be more interested in selling here.