It is not only CD and DVD. Many Chinese companies are known to copy popular brands of goods, with names and appearance slightly modified, but far inferior performance and quality. A search engine is probably least of the concerns when it comes to piracy. This ruling will not improve the slightest bit of China's piracy problems. Indeed. The interesting thing about what you say is that the non-CD/DVD things are not sold to Chinese people (much) - the Chinese people I know, know full well the quality is crap and avoid places like that like the plague. DVDs are different, since they're good enough, and the real ones are too expensive (and difficult to find).
No, the clothing in particular is sold only as a tourist attraction. I'd say that the names and appearance aren't even slightly modified either - they're exactly the same, except that they don't last too long (perhaps they're 'seconds' or have failed quality control).
It's also telling/glaring that Baidu.com is not being held to the same standards. That site even has a specialized mp3 search on it - http://mp3.baidu.com/.
Large governments do tend to engage in nationalistic hypocracy, however, so I guess this shouldn't be terribly surprising.
Well, baidu is pretty much only used by Chinese people (though I don't see any English option on Yahoo!, but it's at least a more obvious target for westerns), so why would westerner companies care about that? I mean, Chinese people can't tend to afford western prices, so sales lost are probably small. In fact, piracy may be a good thing for the future of a product, in the same way it has been for MS Windows - it's pervasive here because it's free (almost). If MS Windows was it's real price, Linux would be much more popular (a la Walmart). With MS Windows being free, Linux doesn't stand much of a chance; and as the Chinese population become more able to afford the real price, MS can push for more enforcement, the public will mostly choose what they're familiar with. MS is already trying to force companies (ie entities that can afford the real price) to buy the real thing, and companies will choose MS because that's what their (existing/potential) employees know.
Talk about calling the kettle black. China is probably the largest source of piracy. They really should handle the problem of people selling pirate CDs and DVDs before going after Yahoo for indexing some warez site. They are going after people selling CDs and DVDs. I've seen numerous DVD stores shutdown in the past year. To start with, the stores were forced to sell them under the counter or out of a back room, but now the stores are *gone*. Admittedly, these stores were near a Holiday Inn, so they're focusing on the more obvious (to westerners, at least) ones, but still.
I know of just one store now, and that is far from any hotels in the middle of an area populated mostly by Koreans. Furthermore, I've recently seen some *real* DVDs in that store. Of course, I don't *know* they're real, and I've not bought any because they're horrendously expensive (compared to salaries here). Even if I did buy them, I still don't know they're real - though I could probably tell to some degree since the English spelling/grammar/etc would be correct (well, it'd be US spelling, but still), and they would actually work without skipping...but who knows for sure? If there's one thing the Chinese are best at in the world (and there isn't just one thing, I'm sure), it's faking stuff and other scams/etc. They're really quite clever.
Of course, you can still buy them on the streets, but the few I've bought from them have been really poor quality (often a camcorder in a cinema).
Why is this marked '+5 insightful' when the post specifically says "I don't know about China specifically"...which makes the post irrelevant. The post is at best 'interesting'.
FWIW, I've lived in China for several years and haven't heard of any internet access service provided by Yahoo!. All broadband access I've heard of is provided by CNC, if not directly then by a reseller of some kind.
I hope you're right. What you say also applies to me, but I fear the word 'brick' is getting the same treatment as the word 'hacker' and we'll all find ourselves changing how we use the word (is this similar to the whole "Mega" and Giga" thing, I wonder).
Well, mostly; and, yes, I'm a bit of a whiner, and, I'm told, a douchbag too (whatever one of those is), but I think I'm right on this one!
The reason I hate pdf is that some companies tend to use it instead of plain html. Nokia, for example, use it on their Forum Nokia web site for pretty much everything, when plain html (plus a bit of css, perhaps) would do just fine. Perhaps they could supply the pdf as well for people who want to collect out-of-date copies (or want to view them offline or print them).
Well, it depends on what they changed. If they added code to phone home a lot with lots of personal information....that would be interesting from more than a purely academic point of view (IMO).
I mean, yes, there are maybe quite sensible applications to this, but I doubt we'll see many of them. Here you go then. Use this one to install my freeware app on your S60 phone with just a click or two :
Well, the information was from someone else, so it's not my place to argue the point. He could have been referring more to model specific variations dealt with at compile or even run time. I know I have at least a couple of features that require that sort of thing on S60 too, and, from testing on a new 6120c, it seems like another one is on it's way:| However, I have been pretty pleasantly surprised that my app 'just works' on the majority of S60 phones, having developed and tested on a handful (3250 and N70, mainly).
Of course, IINM, there are many, many more brew phone models, so it's kind of to be expected, I suppose.
Yes, I can't get that one in on my 3250 using Kaywa. If I click through, there's another which is slightly larger (1.5x?), which instantly works.
Actually, I wonder if my camera does have a macro mode. Having looked a big more closely, I am doubting it. It is simply a menu option and is only in the Kaywa reader, and there's also an 'autofocus' mode, and I'm certain my phone doesn't have that.
So, yes, I take your point; there are limits to the size. On that topic, I notice a 2d bar code on a disk drive the other day and it was *really* small.
Still, I have a qr-code on my business card, and it works just fine. It's 2cmx2cm - I'd guess that's as small as it gets. I used tiny urls too, so that helps, obviously....there's nothing to beat it for convenience when trying to install an app from a web page you've just happened to come across on your desktop:)
Firing up the Kaywa reader is really quick, especially if you put it on the active standby screen, and then it's a single click to get the code on the phone. That's quicker and easier than typing a phone number, and most things are more difficult than a simple phone number too - urls are at least a pain to enter, and sometimes they're long too. If you want to install an application, then it's much more convenient.
In my experience, data matrix just plain doesn't work as well as QR-code. With the latter, I can just point my phone's camera in the general direction of the QR-code and it'll pick it up, but data matrix takes much more effort. Of course, that could be the reader's fault, but there you go.
You must be a European, right? Symbian is far from the majority OS in North America, This is becoming more and more irrelevant. Selling globally is becoming more and more easy. I'm not sure why anyone would want to restrict themselves to any particular market when they don't have to.
However, as someone who develops for Symbian (S60 actually), I can say categorically this isn't:
and it's a PITA to develop for. Bash WinMob all you want, (And this is/. so I'm sure they will) but MS at least provides decent development tools, and an environment where multi-threading/multi-tasking isn't mindbogglingly difficult. ...though I've never done MS Windows development, so I can't make the same comparison. On the other hand, to develop for S60, it is possible to use Microsoft tools (at least it used to be), not that I do (prefer command line stuff that is more predictable/controllable)....and on the other hand (is that 3 now?), I developed an application that seemed to run on all S60 versions since 2nd FP1 with very little modification for specific versions (the biggest effort was to make it run on 3rd *at all*, but once it was, it was easy to make that work on 2nd too). I'm not sure how easy it is to make an application work on MS Windows, but I'm reliably informed that brew requires a 'version' for pretty much every phone.
I use a QR code to allow people to conveniently install my software on their phone. Say a user is browsing on their desktop computer and comes across a review for my software. The user decides they want to try it out but the prospect of typing a url into the phone puts them off. They then notice the QR Code so they take out their Nokia N95, launch the preinstalled reader and scan it directly into the phone, which then automatically launches the web browser to download and install the application. Ok, it's more than a single click, but it's really convenient. I use this method quite often on my 3250 using the reader from Kaywa. Try it yourself using the code here http://emz.yi.org/ Nokia are/will be using there codes on their beta site too. Max. (posted from my 3250)
I programmed a mobile phone application, and I could get a country id, a network id, and a cell id.
I wonder how the cell id relates to antenna. Is the antenna in the centre, or edge of a cell? Does a tower have one cell or does each of it's antennae have a separate cell?
In any case, I look forward to being able map my application's usage on a google map (more accurately than by country).
Nokia N95's have an accelerometer in them too, which can be had for cheap on some contracts, so I'm told. I read somewhere they're surprisingly accurate too, though I've no idea how they compare with the one in the iPhone.
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No, the clothing in particular is sold only as a tourist attraction. I'd say that the names and appearance aren't even slightly modified either - they're exactly the same, except that they don't last too long (perhaps they're 'seconds' or have failed quality control).
Well, baidu is pretty much only used by Chinese people (though I don't see any English option on Yahoo!, but it's at least a more obvious target for westerns), so why would westerner companies care about that? I mean, Chinese people can't tend to afford western prices, so sales lost are probably small. In fact, piracy may be a good thing for the future of a product, in the same way it has been for MS Windows - it's pervasive here because it's free (almost). If MS Windows was it's real price, Linux would be much more popular (a la Walmart). With MS Windows being free, Linux doesn't stand much of a chance; and as the Chinese population become more able to afford the real price, MS can push for more enforcement, the public will mostly choose what they're familiar with. MS is already trying to force companies (ie entities that can afford the real price) to buy the real thing, and companies will choose MS because that's what their (existing/potential) employees know.Large governments do tend to engage in nationalistic hypocracy, however, so I guess this shouldn't be terribly surprising.
I know of just one store now, and that is far from any hotels in the middle of an area populated mostly by Koreans. Furthermore, I've recently seen some *real* DVDs in that store. Of course, I don't *know* they're real, and I've not bought any because they're horrendously expensive (compared to salaries here). Even if I did buy them, I still don't know they're real - though I could probably tell to some degree since the English spelling/grammar/etc would be correct (well, it'd be US spelling, but still), and they would actually work without skipping...but who knows for sure? If there's one thing the Chinese are best at in the world (and there isn't just one thing, I'm sure), it's faking stuff and other scams/etc. They're really quite clever.
Of course, you can still buy them on the streets, but the few I've bought from them have been really poor quality (often a camcorder in a cinema).
Why is this marked '+5 insightful' when the post specifically says "I don't know about China specifically"...which makes the post irrelevant. The post is at best 'interesting'.
FWIW, I've lived in China for several years and haven't heard of any internet access service provided by Yahoo!. All broadband access I've heard of is provided by CNC, if not directly then by a reseller of some kind.
I hope you're right. What you say also applies to me, but I fear the word 'brick' is getting the same treatment as the word 'hacker' and we'll all find ourselves changing how we use the word (is this similar to the whole "Mega" and Giga" thing, I wonder).
I don't have need of a USB stick; I just use my phone instead.
don't tell the RIAA
Well, mostly; and, yes, I'm a bit of a whiner, and, I'm told, a douchbag too (whatever one of those is), but I think I'm right on this one!
The reason I hate pdf is that some companies tend to use it instead of plain html. Nokia, for example, use it on their Forum Nokia web site for pretty much everything, when plain html (plus a bit of css, perhaps) would do just fine. Perhaps they could supply the pdf as well for people who want to collect out-of-date copies (or want to view them offline or print them).
Eh? Isn't that (partly) the problem - the trucks get stuck under the low bridges and make it impossible for others to use the road?
> and I'll bet there are some heads rolling in the legal department right now
...or at least some eyes...
"three"? wouldn't it be two? Three would be back to copyright again...
Well, it depends on what they changed. If they added code to phone home a lot with lots of personal information....that would be interesting from more than a purely academic point of view (IMO).
na. riaa is the same thing for a lot of people. joke was still funny.
http://emz.yi.org/emdigo/sis/C3D-auto.png
Here are some examples of what it does :
http://emz.yi.org/emdigo/models/emzlist.html
Sensible enough for ya'?
It's true, but S60 is moving downwards in the market place (6120c is quite cheap, and still pretty powerful), and Java has it's own set of problems...
Well, the information was from someone else, so it's not my place to argue the point. He could have been referring more to model specific variations dealt with at compile or even run time. I know I have at least a couple of features that require that sort of thing on S60 too, and, from testing on a new 6120c, it seems like another one is on it's way :| However, I have been pretty pleasantly surprised that my app 'just works' on the majority of S60 phones, having developed and tested on a handful (3250 and N70, mainly).
Of course, IINM, there are many, many more brew phone models, so it's kind of to be expected, I suppose.
Yes, I can't get that one in on my 3250 using Kaywa. If I click through, there's another which is slightly larger (1.5x?), which instantly works.
:)
Actually, I wonder if my camera does have a macro mode. Having looked a big more closely, I am doubting it. It is simply a menu option and is only in the Kaywa reader, and there's also an 'autofocus' mode, and I'm certain my phone doesn't have that.
So, yes, I take your point; there are limits to the size. On that topic, I notice a 2d bar code on a disk drive the other day and it was *really* small.
Still, I have a qr-code on my business card, and it works just fine. It's 2cmx2cm - I'd guess that's as small as it gets. I used tiny urls too, so that helps, obviously....there's nothing to beat it for convenience when trying to install an app from a web page you've just happened to come across on your desktop
Max.
The kaywa reader reads this :
http://emz.yi.org/emdigo/sis/C3D-auto.png
which, on my monitor, is about 2"x2", from about 7" away. It also has a macro mode, but I've not needed it yet.
(IMO) that is simply not true.
Firing up the Kaywa reader is really quick, especially if you put it on the active standby screen, and then it's a single click to get the code on the phone. That's quicker and easier than typing a phone number, and most things are more difficult than a simple phone number too - urls are at least a pain to enter, and sometimes they're long too. If you want to install an application, then it's much more convenient.
In my experience, data matrix just plain doesn't work as well as QR-code. With the latter, I can just point my phone's camera in the general direction of the QR-code and it'll pick it up, but data matrix takes much more effort. Of course, that could be the reader's fault, but there you go.
QR-code here : http://emz.yi.org/emdigo/sis/Cinema3D.html
However, as someone who develops for Symbian (S60 actually), I can say categorically this isn't
I use a QR code to allow people to conveniently install my software on their phone. Say a user is browsing on their desktop computer and comes across a review for my software. The user decides they want to try it out but the prospect of typing a url into the phone puts them off. They then notice the QR Code so they take out their Nokia N95, launch the preinstalled reader and scan it directly into the phone, which then automatically launches the web browser to download and install the application. Ok, it's more than a single click, but it's really convenient. I use this method quite often on my 3250 using the reader from Kaywa.
Try it yourself using the code here http://emz.yi.org/
Nokia are/will be using there codes on their beta site too.
Max.
(posted from my 3250)
I programmed a mobile phone application, and I could get a country id, a network id, and a cell id.
I wonder how the cell id relates to antenna. Is the antenna in the centre, or edge of a cell? Does a tower have one cell or does each of it's antennae have a separate cell?
In any case, I look forward to being able map my application's usage on a google map (more accurately than by country).
Nokia N95's have an accelerometer in them too, which can be had for cheap on some contracts, so I'm told. I read somewhere they're surprisingly accurate too, though I've no idea how they compare with the one in the iPhone.
FYI I'm told the A-GPS on these phones is completely different to what google are doing, so I was wrong about that.