..but does that mean the "math, science, and engineering" field, or the 'education' field (ie could be some IT guy at a university somewhere)....or perhaps it is more literal, and means doing cow impersonations. That'll help the US - that's just what it needs - more (artificially enhanced) beef.
Well, since I can't recall exactly what the argument was, I can hardly argue with you. However, I respectfully suggest that you not be so sure about it since I was and the argument made sense to me at the time.
I would agree with you, but someone once pointed out that the other is valid too, but has different logic behind it. I forget exactly, but I think it was part of a longer sentence...
Wow. Could a post get more insightful that this one? I doubt it. I am surprised that/. moderators are insightful enough to actually rate it appropriately too.
The majority of people here simply do not trust the information from the west because it is completely biased, so they don't care about it being sensored. As far as they're concerned it is just noise and the net is a little less noisy because it is blocked.
The main people who care about things not being accessible are foreigners working in China who are used to being able to access such sites - or where the sites are blocked by mistake (like http://www.swimman.com/ was a while ago - though it is working just fine now).
Anyone seen serial experiments lain? I think the Japanese are the last people we want inventing any internet....bazaar, to say the least, but strangely gripping, in a cultish kind of way.
The older versions of SGI IRIX window manager, 4Sight, used postscript too - Sun's NeWS. Is that the same Sun stuff you're talking about?
I remember the icons in the newer 4Dwm were all 3D too - didn't matter what size you made them, they always looked crisp:) - or was that 4Sight too...so long ago:( It was all good though, and I still prefer it to what is available today.
I hope you told her to keep grounding herself, else you're likely to get a somewhat unreliable computer or shorten it's life a bit....or are such things not necessary any more?
furthermore, few women would drink beer, thus it didn't have a positive effect on birth rate....though, with the men drinking beer, I suppose that also didn't have too good an effect on birth rate, even if they were more likely to remain healthy....or something.
Quote flash : Edmund Bladkadder : Well, what we're talking about in, erm, privy terms is the very latest in front-wall, fresh-air orifices, combined with a wide-capacity gutter installation below. Mollie : You mean you crap out of the window. Edmund Bladkadder : Yes!
Talking of Red Bull...since I've been in China, I've come to love the stuff. However, I was distinctly disappointed on a trip to the USA to find that the stuff is very different there - they fill it with gas and it changes it completely. Why? Why? Why?
I would love to know if you can get it there sans gas. I wonder if you can get it in England or elsewhere without gas.
I'm thinking of moving, you see, and Red Bull is an important factor.
I have a Nokia N95 -- I was wondering why they avoided any phones running the latest S60 series browser too. He said in the article that this was because it is, in his opinion, impractical to browse the web without a full keyboard (virtual or otherwise). Of course, you can add a real keyboard (bt) to the N95, but that probably doesn't count.
Of course, there *are* S60 phones with full keyboards, but he seemed to think they're not available from carriers in the US....not sure if that's true or not. In a year or two, hopefully that'll not be true any more (with the help from Google, hopefully).
I hear the E90 is awesome, and has just started hitting the US too, so it'd be interesting to see how that compares.
Of course, the iPhone *is* really very nice (I get that impression anyway), but it's only a UI thing. Personally, I don't much like Apple's desktop ui, so I'm unsure of their phone one(have to wait to find out) - they make it look good, but it's totally inflexible. I might be tempted by a subsequent version, if they get the features in there and perhaps make it a bit smaller. If they open it up to 3rd party s/w (or it's easily hackable) then that might make the high price worthwhile.
> A HUGE advantage of PalmOS-based and Windows-based phones is that you can actually add software to them....not forgetting Symbian OSes, including the most populous one, S60. "Open to new features" is it's tag line, but I suppose iPhone is too, though only when Apple feels like it (how long will that last, I wonder).
> I can't really comment on much on what you say until I see the video.
Finally, the video loads:)
He does show the N95 in landscape, but seems to use it in portrait most of the time. When I was using one, I used it in landscape mode all the time, and with one hand too. Also, when he does put it in landscape mode (apart from the very last 'scene', he pushes the slide all the way to the music player mode - should have pushed it only half way so that there is no keypad on either end - the N95's much smaller size is most apparent then too - as seen in the last scene.
There seem to be a fair number of times when each phone doesn't work, for whatever reason ('buggy', memory full, etc).
He says the N95 loads a 'mobile' version, but it only loads what it's told to, so that's the fault of google, not the N95. Perhaps it's because the N95's browser is WAP capable too, so google gives it a 'mobile' page.
He seems to 'oops' on the iphone at least as much as on the n800 (which isn't really a phone, but still). The number of times he 'double pokes' the iphone is very noticable. It's also very noticable how fluid the UI is (I wonder if that takes some getting used to).
I notice he has to pick up the iphone to make it switch orientation.
I don't really see him use the N95 with both hands, except when used in landscape mode, and it really isn't necessary to do that. Of course, you *can* use both hands with all the phones there. I do see him use the iphone with a single hand, but just for scrolling - every other time, I think, he uses two hands (unless it's on a surface). I guess it's possible to use a single hand, but not nearly as easily as with the n95, since it's designed for use with one hand (apart from the copy/paste function, which requires two fingers - so I suppose it's possible to use one hand, but very difficult).
I just heard him say, "One nice thing about the iPhone is that, as I type, it gives me quick access to the history [switches to the N800], as does this browser." - and, strangely enough, so does the N95. Why is that worth mentioning then, I wonder.
He doesn't seem to be aware that the N95 also can handle multiple pages. I wonder if he had multiple pages open already which is a good reason why it would run out of memory...
I also hear him say that the n800 and iphone give a better browser experience than the n95, which is undeniable, but it would be fairer to mention that it's also a much smaller device/screen and that is most of the problem, I think. He also says that the n800 has flash, but doesn't mention that the n95 also has flash (like all other S60/3rd edition phones, iinm). (Like him, I kind of wish it didn't, but that's just personal opinion).
Overall, IMO, it seems to be a pretty balanced review, though some bias/personal opinion creeps through, I think.
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Well, I would have thought this would be some incentive but I'm not sure.
"Independent research of gamers and players shows HDTV owners prefer HD DVD two to one over Blu-ray."
again, secret option number 'c' - all of above.
..or the mafia is always paid in cash.. ..or secret option number 'c', all of above.
..but does that mean the "math, science, and engineering" field, or the 'education' field (ie could be some IT guy at a university somewhere). ...or perhaps it is more literal, and means doing cow impersonations. That'll help the US - that's just what it needs - more (artificially enhanced) beef.
Well, since I can't recall exactly what the argument was, I can hardly argue with you. However, I respectfully suggest that you not be so sure about it since I was and the argument made sense to me at the time.
"couldn't"
I would agree with you, but someone once pointed out that the other is valid too, but has different logic behind it. I forget exactly, but I think it was part of a longer sentence...
> It was actually a joke :\
You should have provided more clues [instead of leaving it for the reader to assume].
Wow. Could a post get more insightful that this one? I doubt it. I am surprised that /. moderators are insightful enough to actually rate it appropriately too.
The majority of people here simply do not trust the information from the west because it is completely biased, so they don't care about it being sensored. As far as they're concerned it is just noise and the net is a little less noisy because it is blocked.
The main people who care about things not being accessible are foreigners working in China who are used to being able to access such sites - or where the sites are blocked by mistake (like http://www.swimman.com/ was a while ago - though it is working just fine now).
Anyone seen serial experiments lain? I think the Japanese are the last people we want inventing any internet....bazaar, to say the least, but strangely gripping, in a cultish kind of way.
Good music though.
The older versions of SGI IRIX window manager, 4Sight, used postscript too - Sun's NeWS. Is that the same Sun stuff you're talking about?
:) - or was that 4Sight too...so long ago :( It was all good though, and I still prefer it to what is available today.
I remember the icons in the newer 4Dwm were all 3D too - didn't matter what size you made them, they always looked crisp
Wasn't there an article recently on space dust that forms dna-like structures and behaves very life-like...or something?
Thief!
can't find. need link.
What the company is *doing* (with the web site/whatever) is a scam, and that the company is a scam *artist*. No?
Eh? I live in China. What's the patriot act got to do with me?
> Now comcast charging me $50+ for 6mbit when i could get several times that for half the price in South Korea, that's about greed!
Isn't that more about cost of living?
Don't you mean England? Switzerland is a white cross on a red background. England uses the red cross.
Sigh. Not an anti-static strap in sight.
...or are such things not necessary any more?
I hope you told her to keep grounding herself, else you're likely to get a somewhat unreliable computer or shorten it's life a bit.
> It was only about 2.5% alcohol
Budwieser! *That's* where American beer comes from. It's all the UK's fault after all.
furthermore, few women would drink beer, thus it didn't have a positive effect on birth rate....though, with the men drinking beer, I suppose that also didn't have too good an effect on birth rate, even if they were more likely to remain healthy. ...or something.
> our frankly shocking approach to sanitation
Quote flash :
Edmund Bladkadder : Well, what we're talking about in, erm, privy terms is the very latest in front-wall, fresh-air orifices, combined with a wide-capacity gutter installation below.
Mollie : You mean you crap out of the window.
Edmund Bladkadder : Yes!
Talking of Red Bull...since I've been in China, I've come to love the stuff. However, I was distinctly disappointed on a trip to the USA to find that the stuff is very different there - they fill it with gas and it changes it completely. Why? Why? Why?
I would love to know if you can get it there sans gas. I wonder if you can get it in England or elsewhere without gas.
I'm thinking of moving, you see, and Red Bull is an important factor.
Of course, there *are* S60 phones with full keyboards, but he seemed to think they're not available from carriers in the US....not sure if that's true or not. In a year or two, hopefully that'll not be true any more (with the help from Google, hopefully).
I hear the E90 is awesome, and has just started hitting the US too, so it'd be interesting to see how that compares.
Of course, the iPhone *is* really very nice (I get that impression anyway), but it's only a UI thing. Personally, I don't much like Apple's desktop ui, so I'm unsure of their phone one(have to wait to find out) - they make it look good, but it's totally inflexible. I might be tempted by a subsequent version, if they get the features in there and perhaps make it a bit smaller. If they open it up to 3rd party s/w (or it's easily hackable) then that might make the high price worthwhile.
> A HUGE advantage of PalmOS-based and Windows-based phones is that you can actually add software to them. ...not forgetting Symbian OSes, including the most populous one, S60. "Open to new features" is it's tag line, but I suppose iPhone is too, though only when Apple feels like it (how long will that last, I wonder).
> I can't really comment on much on what you say until I see the video.
:)
Finally, the video loads
He does show the N95 in landscape, but seems to use it in portrait most of the time. When I was using one, I used it in landscape mode all the time, and with one hand too. Also, when he does put it in landscape mode (apart from the very last 'scene', he pushes the slide all the way to the music player mode - should have pushed it only half way so that there is no keypad on either end - the N95's much smaller size is most apparent then too - as seen in the last scene.
There seem to be a fair number of times when each phone doesn't work, for whatever reason ('buggy', memory full, etc).
He says the N95 loads a 'mobile' version, but it only loads what it's told to, so that's the fault of google, not the N95. Perhaps it's because the N95's browser is WAP capable too, so google gives it a 'mobile' page.
He seems to 'oops' on the iphone at least as much as on the n800 (which isn't really a phone, but still). The number of times he 'double pokes' the iphone is very noticable. It's also very noticable how fluid the UI is (I wonder if that takes some getting used to).
I notice he has to pick up the iphone to make it switch orientation.
I don't really see him use the N95 with both hands, except when used in landscape mode, and it really isn't necessary to do that. Of course, you *can* use both hands with all the phones there. I do see him use the iphone with a single hand, but just for scrolling - every other time, I think, he uses two hands (unless it's on a surface). I guess it's possible to use a single hand, but not nearly as easily as with the n95, since it's designed for use with one hand (apart from the copy/paste function, which requires two fingers - so I suppose it's possible to use one hand, but very difficult).
I just heard him say, "One nice thing about the iPhone is that, as I type, it gives me quick access to the history [switches to the N800], as does this browser." - and, strangely enough, so does the N95. Why is that worth mentioning then, I wonder.
He doesn't seem to be aware that the N95 also can handle multiple pages. I wonder if he had multiple pages open already which is a good reason why it would run out of memory...
I also hear him say that the n800 and iphone give a better browser experience than the n95, which is undeniable, but it would be fairer to mention that it's also a much smaller device/screen and that is most of the problem, I think. He also says that the n800 has flash, but doesn't mention that the n95 also has flash (like all other S60/3rd edition phones, iinm). (Like him, I kind of wish it didn't, but that's just personal opinion).
Overall, IMO, it seems to be a pretty balanced review, though some bias/personal opinion creeps through, I think.