As an atheist who was in the Boy Scouts for several years, I think this a bit misleading.
It's not that This particular group does not believe that homosexuality or atheism are acceptable lifestyles. so much as that they believe religion plays an important part in a persons development.
I suppose if you live in a country that wasn't forced to throw out oppressors violently, then you don't really need guns.
I'm trying to wonder how one would consider a country without guns suddely civilzed.
Let's take Britian for example.
At the end of World War I, Britian took the Mosul, Baghdad and Basra reigions and turned it into Iraq. Nothing like taking three groups of people who might not get along, and throwing them into the same country.
One might say that the current problems in Israel were caused by the British.
the only thing they are interested in using it for is to poke people in the eye with it so they don't notice the sledgehammer they are holding in the other hand.
Did anyone else just have a vision of Gates prancing around like a fairy, holding a giant hammer in one hand and an olive branch in the other, poking hippies in the eyes while dodging a hail of flowers?
Genkernel is a POS. I don't know why, but even when things work on the live CD the genkernel on the install seems to mess up. The one that sticks out most in my mind was an Acer TravelMate 2300. Live CD worked fine with everything, so I used genkernel. I reboot... and the screen doesn't work. I repeat: Even in init1, the screen doesn't work.
Gentoo needs a new Genkernel suited for most people's needs. It'll probally be a bit bloated, but atleast it'll work.
That's intresting, I wasn't aware that they had to answered to the public.
I was also unaware that they helped regular people find and prosecute malicous users, or tried to pass legistation that would force an ISP to cooperate with users who had a valid log/evidence of wrong-doing (instead of, say, ignoring you because they don't want to lose a customer).
Please, do go on. This sounds like a GREAT solution.
Most Police officers do not want to spend the resources to fix what is essentially your problem. As long as the person doesn't kill you in front of the police (which would make the police liable), it's not really their concern.
The problem is with knowing what is, and is not, legal. Of course security is my problem (not, say, the software that caused the security... but I won't get into that here).
It's the ISPs problem when I let them know something has occured. Is defacing a website illegal? If so, then the individual has commited a crime.
It's not like I'm expecting an ISP to watch the user, and make sure someone doesn't deface my site... but if it happens, and I report it (with logs, and all the information I have), then it's the ISPs job to follow up on it and keep me updated.
One more point. Try and find a way to stop scanning and report those that do to some central internet authority. Oh , forgot........Don't have one.
This is exactly the problem. People (especially kiddies) know that there's little chance of them being reported. Even if they are reported, there's little chance that anyone will do a damn thing about it.
We need an agency in the US that is held responsible by citizens, and helps track and charge people like this.
Timmy running some exploit he found on a site from 1999 isn't really on par with, say, the governments secret plan to infiltrate Slashdot, and discredit the community with dupes, mispellings, irrational arguments, and ads disguised as stories.
You make it sound like they're these misunderstood smart kids, who - bored with school - do these things.
Most of the little shits who do this are either jackasses running a perl script (or if they're REALLY elite, compiling some C code), or sadists who want to deface sites for fun.
It's a shame? It would be if it happened; most of these kids get a talking to, and that's it. We need some harsher penalties for kids who do this; something they'll remember and regret. Not a slap on the wrist.
ISPs don't want to take responsibility. Well, that's not fair. Local/small ISPs are very good at this, while large ISPs don't seem to care what their users are doing.
I have reported a few people myself; hell, I tracked down one to an old address (they had moved a week before), but the ISP was not willing to do any work.
There needs to be some owning up by these ISPs. I'd also love to see some harsher penalties. Some of these 15 year old kids deserve to go to pound-me-in-the-ass prision.
I'll start off by saying that I'm not a major fan of apple. I dont really care about them either way.
However, I was very intrested in getting an iPod, and PowerBook, when my laptop bite the big one.
I looked around, and asked alot of questions. The more I learned about PowerBooks, the more intrested I was. So I started asking about iPods.
It was about the time that I learned I would have to buy all the MP3s I had (bought and paid for) over again, that I realized I would never own an iPod.
About 2/3 of my collection I purchased from allofmy3s.com; the rest I ripped a few years back from CDs I had. Guess how many of hose CDs I still have that *aren't* scratched to hell?
I can understand why companies would show intrest in DRM... but I can't understand why they would implement it like this. DRM would be great for documents/files that you want to keep inside the office, and in many other situations. But it sure as hell isn't for this.
So. I suppose for now I'll stick with Linux and USB/MP3 players.
Well, Americans also voted them back into office - and that's nothing they can blame on anyone but themselves...
Your argument is flawed. If it had, say been a 90/10 landslide, I could see where you're going... but it was very close.
So how about stopping with all the america bashing (hell, we're not the only country to make a mistake during an election. I'm looking at you, Germany), and get a clue.
The problem here is a system that encourages corruption, stupidity, and laziness.
I have to admit, though, that I'm past the point of caring. Hell take you all if you don't bother to learn about the people you're voting for, and rely on TV to tell you who's who.
Timothy Zahn, a great author IMHO, made quite possibly the best starwar books ever.
Three books, very well made, and intresting. Why not make a cartoon (or movies) based off of them, instead of spewing this crap?
The author will be happy (royalties, yay!), George will be happy (He won't have to pull bad ideas out of the air), and I'll be happy (which is the most important).
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Exactly the attitude that drives people to Ubuntu.
"If you want to do something, do it yourself! We don't want to help you; we'll just sit here and bitch about how another group is stealing our work!"
As an atheist who was in the Boy Scouts for several years, I think this a bit misleading.
It's not that This particular group does not believe that homosexuality or atheism are acceptable lifestyles. so much as that they believe religion plays an important part in a persons development.
So I suppose that makes this the 4th slashdot ad article in a row by CmdrTaco?
I'm still curious as to how mine is Score 1, and his is Score 5.
Knee jerk reaction with no facts = Score 5.
Something that's not anti-American = Score 1.
The hell?
I suppose if you live in a country that wasn't forced to throw out oppressors violently, then you don't really need guns.
I'm trying to wonder how one would consider a country without guns suddely civilzed.
Let's take Britian for example.
At the end of World War I, Britian took the Mosul, Baghdad and Basra reigions and turned it into Iraq. Nothing like taking three groups of people who might not get along, and throwing them into the same country.
One might say that the current problems in Israel were caused by the British.
Guns don't make a country uncivilzed, jackass.
the only thing they are interested in using it for is to poke people in the eye with it so they don't notice the sledgehammer they are holding in the other hand.
Did anyone else just have a vision of Gates prancing around like a fairy, holding a giant hammer in one hand and an olive branch in the other, poking hippies in the eyes while dodging a hail of flowers?
Anyone? No?
*glances at his bottle of cough syrup*
There aren't any leaders to reach out to!
And the next line?
There are leaders, but it's not a labor union or a PTA.
Which brings me to my next point: Don't do crack.
I agree, in theory.
Using Tor just doesn't seem very feasable for the amount of bandwith that would be used.
If anyone doesn't know what Tor is, http://tor.eff.org/
And that's not counting hardware.
Genkernel is a POS. I don't know why, but even when things work on the live CD the genkernel on the install seems to mess up. The one that sticks out most in my mind was an Acer TravelMate 2300. Live CD worked fine with everything, so I used genkernel. I reboot... and the screen doesn't work. I repeat: Even in init1, the screen doesn't work.
Gentoo needs a new Genkernel suited for most people's needs. It'll probally be a bit bloated, but atleast it'll work.
Indeed.
It's much funner to be an overweight, middle-aged, bitter, cynical, and argumenative poster on slashdot.
You know you're on slashdot when people bitch about others being cheerful.
That's intresting, I wasn't aware that they had to answered to the public.
I was also unaware that they helped regular people find and prosecute malicous users, or tried to pass legistation that would force an ISP to cooperate with users who had a valid log/evidence of wrong-doing (instead of, say, ignoring you because they don't want to lose a customer).
Please, do go on. This sounds like a GREAT solution.
Agreed.
Most Police officers do not want to spend the resources to fix what is essentially your problem. As long as the person doesn't kill you in front of the police (which would make the police liable), it's not really their concern.
The problem is with knowing what is, and is not, legal. Of course security is my problem (not, say, the software that caused the security... but I won't get into that here).
It's the ISPs problem when I let them know something has occured. Is defacing a website illegal? If so, then the individual has commited a crime.
It's not like I'm expecting an ISP to watch the user, and make sure someone doesn't deface my site... but if it happens, and I report it (with logs, and all the information I have), then it's the ISPs job to follow up on it and keep me updated.
"A lot of 15- and 16-year-old guys are smart enough to have strong political opinions,"
Agreed, VERY strong political opinions!... just usually not their own.
"Well, my teacher says Kerry is great because he likes *insert rapper here*", or "OMFG, EATING ANIMALS IS MEAN".
Most of their political opinions don't mean a thing. Not to say all kids are like this, of course.
I wonder how hard it would be for phpBB (and others like it) to have an auto-update feature.
;-_-
Of course, with phpBB's site being hacked recently, I doubt anyone would really want that option.
Sure would be nice if there was a free alternative BB system that was known to be secure (heh).
One more point. Try and find a way to stop scanning and report those that do to some central internet authority. Oh , forgot........Don't have one.
This is exactly the problem. People (especially kiddies) know that there's little chance of them being reported. Even if they are reported, there's little chance that anyone will do a damn thing about it.
We need an agency in the US that is held responsible by citizens, and helps track and charge people like this.
They have more pressing matters, I would imagine.
Timmy running some exploit he found on a site from 1999 isn't really on par with, say, the governments secret plan to infiltrate Slashdot, and discredit the community with dupes, mispellings, irrational arguments, and ads disguised as stories.
You make it sound like they're these misunderstood smart kids, who - bored with school - do these things.
Most of the little shits who do this are either jackasses running a perl script (or if they're REALLY elite, compiling some C code), or sadists who want to deface sites for fun.
It's a shame? It would be if it happened; most of these kids get a talking to, and that's it. We need some harsher penalties for kids who do this; something they'll remember and regret. Not a slap on the wrist.
This is a major problem.
ISPs don't want to take responsibility. Well, that's not fair. Local/small ISPs are very good at this, while large ISPs don't seem to care what their users are doing.
I have reported a few people myself; hell, I tracked down one to an old address (they had moved a week before), but the ISP was not willing to do any work.
There needs to be some owning up by these ISPs. I'd also love to see some harsher penalties. Some of these 15 year old kids deserve to go to pound-me-in-the-ass prision.
I'll start off by saying that I'm not a major fan of apple. I dont really care about them either way.
However, I was very intrested in getting an iPod, and PowerBook, when my laptop bite the big one.
I looked around, and asked alot of questions. The more I learned about PowerBooks, the more intrested I was. So I started asking about iPods.
It was about the time that I learned I would have to buy all the MP3s I had (bought and paid for) over again, that I realized I would never own an iPod.
About 2/3 of my collection I purchased from allofmy3s.com; the rest I ripped a few years back from CDs I had. Guess how many of hose CDs I still have that *aren't* scratched to hell?
I can understand why companies would show intrest in DRM... but I can't understand why they would implement it like this. DRM would be great for documents/files that you want to keep inside the office, and in many other situations. But it sure as hell isn't for this.
So. I suppose for now I'll stick with Linux and USB/MP3 players.
In all fairness, you'll probally need that in order for KDE/Gnome to be usable.
Zing!
Are you retarted, or did you just not read the parent?
I'm not saying that OSS doesn't work. The parent claimed that it's better to use OSS, even if it isn't as functional as propritary software.
Pull your head out of your ass.
Well, Americans also voted them back into office - and that's nothing they can blame on anyone but themselves...
Your argument is flawed. If it had, say been a 90/10 landslide, I could see where you're going... but it was very close.
So how about stopping with all the america bashing (hell, we're not the only country to make a mistake during an election. I'm looking at you, Germany), and get a clue.
The problem here is a system that encourages corruption, stupidity, and laziness.
I have to admit, though, that I'm past the point of caring. Hell take you all if you don't bother to learn about the people you're voting for, and rely on TV to tell you who's who.
Timothy Zahn, a great author IMHO, made quite possibly the best starwar books ever.
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Three books, very well made, and intresting. Why not make a cartoon (or movies) based off of them, instead of spewing this crap?
The author will be happy (royalties, yay!), George will be happy (He won't have to pull bad ideas out of the air), and I'll be happy (which is the most important).
Here's a link to some short descriptions of the books: http://www.bookstoremall.com/Thrawn_Trilogy_Serie
How terrible.
We should all use free (though poorly functional) things, rather than things that work.
I'm also a bit confused as how 'free software' = 'freedom'. So... you lose your individual freedom if you buy software?
I'm still wondering how that was marked +5, while mine wasn't. :'(
;)
See? Now I do hate the french.