The problem isn't the targeted ads, it's the data mining.
I can't for the life of my understand how it is that people bemoan privacy violations everywhere except Google. I just don't understand the free card Google gets in this regard. They collect more data on us than probably any entity that is not a national government, yet we're *happy* every time they grab more.
Perhaps, but I doubt your $100 printer will survive as long, or will take as heavy a duty cycle, or has built in networking (add the cost of a print server to you $100 if you need to share it in an office environment), or can carry as much paper in the paper tray, or has multiple trays from which it can print assuming you may need several different types of letterheads or templates, or can print duplex, or any of a huge number of features that one may pay extra for their printer to do.
Then there's the cost of fixing the fact that you're a total knob, which in your case is probably going to be pretty expensive.
Also, shipping companies don't lose when their ships are boarded or the goods stolen, as they're all insured. Everyone knows this, even the pirates. The ones who lose are the insurance companies, but they don't really care either coz they just make up for it in higher premiums.
Google only releases those designs that don't allow a competitor to interfere with its business. Before any result of its R&D is released, there's a decision making process that occurs, where they ensure that the item in question does not confer any significant increase in capability to its competitors. Typically, they just open source those things that their competitors already have proprietary versions of (such as MapReduce and BigTable) so that they don't bring about any change in the competitive landscape, but they get the PR of open sourcing something. It's a pure marketing stunt, not an attempt to bring about some egalitarian utopia.
Repeat after me: Google is a for-profit company. like any other.
Data center innovation should benefit whoever innovates. If Google are 5 years ahead of any other DC operator in terms of cost savings, that should be incentive enough. Preventing any other company from also saving power by patenting things like ducts+servomotors is not only counter to the interests of society in general, but counter to the market's health.
First mover advantage should be enough. If you need more than that then you're not really innovating. Patents just allow companies to innovate *once* and then sit around on their asses forever. No patents means a company has to keep innovating to get in front and then stay there.
Redundant? More like insightful. Forget malware installing itself on your OS and sending back information about your data and activities, ChromeOS just sends all of your data itself to servers somewhere where it can be picked through and analyzed in detail, and ensures that all of your activities are actually performed on those servers so that you can't actually do anything without them.
This situation aside, I don't believe the prohibition failure is a universally applicable example that can be cited every time the government wants to regulate something that's inherently hard to regulate. It's a balance between the cost associated with enforcement and the cost of allowing the activity to occur unregulated.
If you don't apply the calculus correctly then you could argue that murder is hard to prosecute, therefore we should just allow it. After all, prohibition failed. Ditto for all hard drugs. Should we allow unrestricted use of heroin and cocaine? There may be some callous people who would argue that banning drugs is interfering with Darwinian mechanisms, but the reality is that many youth don't know what's good for them, and need to have access to hard drugs removed to protect themselves from making poor decisions in the period they are still learning to evaluate choices maturely.
Apply the prohibition lesson sparingly, as it can lead to manifestly unjust and dangerous policy decisions if invoked carelessly.
"As for the money being better spent, I submit that in this economy ANY spending by government is as useful as any other"
Bollocks. Privatizationist bollocks. 900 billion dollar bailout package? Spending it any which way will be as good as any other?
* Why not spend it on setting up a totally new energy infrastructure? Government and industry has for years been telling us that the tech is there, it's just a chicken or the egg problem, no fuel depots stock alternative fuel coz there are no alternative fuel cars, and there are no alternative fuel cars coz there are no depots. Last estimate I saw put the cost of redeploying all major gas stations with hydrogen at about $150b. The remaining $650b is enough to purchase over 20 million hydrogen cars (or electric depending on which way you went). * Invested returns on $900b (presuming it was invested in a highly diversified, global portfolio) would be enough to give free healthcare to all of the 12% of people in the US living below the poverty line forever. Alternatively, if directly spent, it would provide that healthcare for almost 10 years. * $900b would be enough to build solar energy capacity to generate 900gigawatts of capacity. The US currently uses about 550GW (source)
Sorry, but I don't believe that's no better than giving money to the assholes who caused the problem in the first place, and it's certainly better than $random_spending that you say would be just as good.
Blind economic injection by government is a Keynesian idea that needs to die like the lame dog of an idea that it is. Government money *has* value, and should be spent (shock!) wisely.
Great. Another American high horse. Because democracy in the US of A is the gold standard by which the free world should measure itself. - The US builds and holds more nuclear weapons than the rest of the world combined - US military spending accounts for 60% of the total world military spending, outpacing all other industrialized nations by more than double on a per-capita basis. - An American calling another nation nationalistic is beyond pot calling the kettle black. - The CIA and NSA have hundreds of stations on every other continent, and that's just what's published. - Killing fetuses? Sorry, I got nothing on this one. The only difference between the USA and China is that Americans *think* they are free, and no people are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who truly believes he is free. How often do you think "honor killings" actually happen? Its a crime there, called murder. The murder rate in the USA is far higher in per capita terms than in India or China.
Desalination plant will consumer more energy than the water it produces can generate, because in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics.
Why is it that every time anything power related is posted to/. there are a bunch of people who suggest perpetual motion machines? What happened to/. being for nerds? Nerds would know perpetual motion when they see it, and know that it's not possible. This is the fourth comment I've read in this thread that has fallen foul of this so far.
That's not sustainable, as they're just more efficient, not a closed infinite loop. Entropy always increases. In this house...
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Given that any sysadmin worth his salt knows that Linux and FreeBSD offer different tradeoffs between "completeness" and "rigorous quality", it's not unreasonable for him to point out that FreeBSD has a "higher quality", even if the actual words he uses are subjective. Everyone familiar with FreeBSD and several Linux distros would know what he's saying and agree.
Unfortunately, I can't say that your "nuh-uh" also resounds with common experience in this way, so I disagree with your contention that it is a valid response under these circumstances.
Honestly, I think that Sun would have been just as ripe a takeover target for Cisco, who has been recently expanding into the server space. Buying Sun would get them an instant, firm beachhead, as well as merging two companies with highly complementary product lines. Cisco's high end networking gear plus Sun's high performance server line make for an excellent one-stop data center shop for people who don't want to compromise on equipment quality.
Other possible buyers of Sun could be any high end network equipment OEM that's cashed up. If Apple wanted to enter the lucrative server space, acquiring Sun would be a good start, as they have a similar hardware+software as a platform culture. Apple has some server products out there, so presumably they want to at least have a presence, and Sun would be a great way to turn "kind of exists in the space" into "major player in the space".
Oracle+Sun doesn't make sense from a hardware point of view, I just don't see Oracle branded servers happening. From a DB point of view it makes even less sense to me. Oracle is just buying up its most threatening competition with no real apparent strategy.
Personally, I think it's competition elimination, and the DoJ was insane to allow it through. The EU is right to block it. There are better suitors for Sun that are more likely to result in a stronger product range for consumers.
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Sure there are. I'd say curing cancer would just about offset Windows ME. If you save as many lives as you ruin then it's even, right?
The problem isn't the targeted ads, it's the data mining.
I can't for the life of my understand how it is that people bemoan privacy violations everywhere except Google. I just don't understand the free card Google gets in this regard. They collect more data on us than probably any entity that is not a national government, yet we're *happy* every time they grab more.
WTF people?!
Perhaps, but I doubt your $100 printer will survive as long, or will take as heavy a duty cycle, or has built in networking (add the cost of a print server to you $100 if you need to share it in an office environment), or can carry as much paper in the paper tray, or has multiple trays from which it can print assuming you may need several different types of letterheads or templates, or can print duplex, or any of a huge number of features that one may pay extra for their printer to do.
Then there's the cost of fixing the fact that you're a total knob, which in your case is probably going to be pretty expensive.
"No longer selling copies of XP, anyone?"
XP is almost 9 freakin' years old. What are you waiting for? Confirmation from Netcraft?
Is your mama Netcraft?
"Given the little knowledge I have of neural network functioning"
It seems it's even littler than you think.
But it's Wednesday...
Also, shipping companies don't lose when their ships are boarded or the goods stolen, as they're all insured. Everyone knows this, even the pirates. The ones who lose are the insurance companies, but they don't really care either coz they just make up for it in higher premiums.
Piracy! It's a win for all!
Google only releases those designs that don't allow a competitor to interfere with its business. Before any result of its R&D is released, there's a decision making process that occurs, where they ensure that the item in question does not confer any significant increase in capability to its competitors. Typically, they just open source those things that their competitors already have proprietary versions of (such as MapReduce and BigTable) so that they don't bring about any change in the competitive landscape, but they get the PR of open sourcing something. It's a pure marketing stunt, not an attempt to bring about some egalitarian utopia.
Repeat after me: Google is a for-profit company. like any other.
Bollocks.
Data center innovation should benefit whoever innovates. If Google are 5 years ahead of any other DC operator in terms of cost savings, that should be incentive enough. Preventing any other company from also saving power by patenting things like ducts+servomotors is not only counter to the interests of society in general, but counter to the market's health.
First mover advantage should be enough. If you need more than that then you're not really innovating. Patents just allow companies to innovate *once* and then sit around on their asses forever. No patents means a company has to keep innovating to get in front and then stay there.
Waiting for his official welcome.
If the only harm caused by others to yourself that you can see arises from software security flaws, then you really, really need to get out more.
Actually, check that; if you really are that clueless as to how others can cause you harm, you're better off holed up wherever you are.
Power off to WinXP in 15 seconds? I call bull.
It's not infinite as it eventaully results in a buffer overflow.
Redundant? More like insightful. Forget malware installing itself on your OS and sending back information about your data and activities, ChromeOS just sends all of your data itself to servers somewhere where it can be picked through and analyzed in detail, and ensures that all of your activities are actually performed on those servers so that you can't actually do anything without them.
mrnaz@mrnaz-desktop:~$ apt-get pussy
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This situation aside, I don't believe the prohibition failure is a universally applicable example that can be cited every time the government wants to regulate something that's inherently hard to regulate. It's a balance between the cost associated with enforcement and the cost of allowing the activity to occur unregulated.
If you don't apply the calculus correctly then you could argue that murder is hard to prosecute, therefore we should just allow it. After all, prohibition failed. Ditto for all hard drugs. Should we allow unrestricted use of heroin and cocaine? There may be some callous people who would argue that banning drugs is interfering with Darwinian mechanisms, but the reality is that many youth don't know what's good for them, and need to have access to hard drugs removed to protect themselves from making poor decisions in the period they are still learning to evaluate choices maturely.
Apply the prohibition lesson sparingly, as it can lead to manifestly unjust and dangerous policy decisions if invoked carelessly.
Yea, because everyone who believes in the Big Bang theory denies the laws of thermodynamics.
If they were worried about their business being intercepted they'd not hire 100 foreign nationals to carry out their business on foreign soil.
"As for the money being better spent, I submit that in this economy ANY spending by government is as useful as any other"
Bollocks. Privatizationist bollocks. 900 billion dollar bailout package? Spending it any which way will be as good as any other?
* Why not spend it on setting up a totally new energy infrastructure? Government and industry has for years been telling us that the tech is there, it's just a chicken or the egg problem, no fuel depots stock alternative fuel coz there are no alternative fuel cars, and there are no alternative fuel cars coz there are no depots. Last estimate I saw put the cost of redeploying all major gas stations with hydrogen at about $150b. The remaining $650b is enough to purchase over 20 million hydrogen cars (or electric depending on which way you went).
* Invested returns on $900b (presuming it was invested in a highly diversified, global portfolio) would be enough to give free healthcare to all of the 12% of people in the US living below the poverty line forever. Alternatively, if directly spent, it would provide that healthcare for almost 10 years.
* $900b would be enough to build solar energy capacity to generate 900gigawatts of capacity. The US currently uses about 550GW (source)
Sorry, but I don't believe that's no better than giving money to the assholes who caused the problem in the first place, and it's certainly better than $random_spending that you say would be just as good.
Blind economic injection by government is a Keynesian idea that needs to die like the lame dog of an idea that it is. Government money *has* value, and should be spent (shock!) wisely.
Great. Another American high horse. Because democracy in the US of A is the gold standard by which the free world should measure itself.
- The US builds and holds more nuclear weapons than the rest of the world combined
- US military spending accounts for 60% of the total world military spending, outpacing all other industrialized nations by more than double on a per-capita basis.
- An American calling another nation nationalistic is beyond pot calling the kettle black.
- The CIA and NSA have hundreds of stations on every other continent, and that's just what's published.
- Killing fetuses? Sorry, I got nothing on this one.
The only difference between the USA and China is that Americans *think* they are free, and no people are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who truly believes he is free. How often do you think "honor killings" actually happen? Its a crime there, called murder. The murder rate in the USA is far higher in per capita terms than in India or China.
Desalination plant will consumer more energy than the water it produces can generate, because in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics.
Why is it that every time anything power related is posted to /. there are a bunch of people who suggest perpetual motion machines? What happened to /. being for nerds? Nerds would know perpetual motion when they see it, and know that it's not possible. This is the fourth comment I've read in this thread that has fallen foul of this so far.
That's not sustainable, as they're just more efficient, not a closed infinite loop. Entropy always increases. In this house...
Given that any sysadmin worth his salt knows that Linux and FreeBSD offer different tradeoffs between "completeness" and "rigorous quality", it's not unreasonable for him to point out that FreeBSD has a "higher quality", even if the actual words he uses are subjective. Everyone familiar with FreeBSD and several Linux distros would know what he's saying and agree.
Unfortunately, I can't say that your "nuh-uh" also resounds with common experience in this way, so I disagree with your contention that it is a valid response under these circumstances.
Honestly, I think that Sun would have been just as ripe a takeover target for Cisco, who has been recently expanding into the server space. Buying Sun would get them an instant, firm beachhead, as well as merging two companies with highly complementary product lines. Cisco's high end networking gear plus Sun's high performance server line make for an excellent one-stop data center shop for people who don't want to compromise on equipment quality.
Other possible buyers of Sun could be any high end network equipment OEM that's cashed up. If Apple wanted to enter the lucrative server space, acquiring Sun would be a good start, as they have a similar hardware+software as a platform culture. Apple has some server products out there, so presumably they want to at least have a presence, and Sun would be a great way to turn "kind of exists in the space" into "major player in the space".
Oracle+Sun doesn't make sense from a hardware point of view, I just don't see Oracle branded servers happening. From a DB point of view it makes even less sense to me. Oracle is just buying up its most threatening competition with no real apparent strategy.
Personally, I think it's competition elimination, and the DoJ was insane to allow it through. The EU is right to block it. There are better suitors for Sun that are more likely to result in a stronger product range for consumers.