Your logic is flawed. I certainly expect a cigarette to cause a fire, so I'm not about to leave a lit one sitting on my desk full of papers. However, I'd think it would be perfectly reasonable to let my laptop sit next to some papers. Basically, Dell's laptops have an interesting tendency to spontaneously combust. ..it's not a freak accident, and not something that all laptops do. That is the reason that this is getting so much attention, no laptop should emit a small fireworks show and then burst into flames spewing all sorts of nasty chemical fumes. . .
I know someone is going to say it but I don't feel like monitoring my thread: If the guy giving away pens for free stands next to the guy selling him, it will surely his business.
One thing you have to understand here is that the "pens" aren't the same, especially when you consider music culture. Collectors like having physical media with their favorite bands as well as the artwork, fancy looking CD, etc. It would be like the 10 cents pen comming in a nice box with a booklet on it's history, a warranty, and a certificate of authenticity whereas the free pen is just the pen itself, and might be defective (corrupt mp3). Both are functionally identical but fundamentally different. If I am looking for a pen I will spend the 10 cents extra to make sure that it's a decent pen and if I collect pens the 10 cents is well worth the cost of having the nice box to display it in and the interesting literature. If I just need something to write with I'll grab the free pen because I just plain don't care so long as it works. Whether or not free pens exist I still wouldn't feel like spending the 10 cents on an "official" pen.
I have never bought a CD in my life, I just listen to the radio. I have a few MP3's but certainly nothing worthy of being called a "collection". Whether or not pirating exists they record companies would/will never make money off me, I am not interested in their product.
What kind of idiot still believes illicit downloads = lost sales. Simple economics, if the price changes (to nothing) then you're going to see a lot more use. . if right now the world downloads 100 million songs a day that doesn't mean that if piracy didn't exist they would instead buy 100 million songs a day. ..It's just such a blatant twisting of facts who wouldn't see through it? If someone hands you a pen and says "it's free" would you take it? Now if someone handed you a pen and said "10 cents please" would you take it? I bet those "free" pens would move quite a bit quicker even though 10 cents isn't a bad price for a pen. There is a huge difference between "free" and. . well. . anything else really.
OK, lets quit tossing around analogies and look at the underlying facts for a moment.
Stealing a bike analogy(wrong): By taking a bike you are depriving them of property, as well as the use of the bike which they may depend on. If there were a candy bar on someone's porch, would you take it? No, because even though the value is small you know that if you take it the original owner no longer has it.
Water fountain analogy (OK): If there is a water fountain set up in someone's front yard, can you use it w/o asking? Most people would say yes as you aren't causing them much harm and the financial cost of the water you consume will be virtually infinitesimal.
Hooking up a hose and "stealing" water analogy (wrong): In this case you act on your own and actively work to get their water, they never made any effort to make it available to you, also, the cost will NOT be negligible.
What does it all mean? If there is a WEP or similar you must actively work around it, which ties into the hooking up a hose analogy, so it's "wrong". If you see a open AP and decide to check your email with it, this is OK as they didn't make the effort to make it secure either because they want it open or they were negligent. If you use it to torrent or somesuch, you are falling into the "stealing of water" analogy as the bandwidth you use is not negligible. So IMO, if it is open and you use it for light traffic, thats ok. If there is any indication they don't want you on it, maybe not even encryption but an SSID of "Private-Network" or something other than the default, don't use it. If you want to torrent or do anything heavy, not OK unless you have some prior agreement with the owner of the network. ..the REAL controversial issue is with people that set it up but don't know how to secure it. It'd be like buying a sink and not knowing how to install it inside so you install it outside. ..can others mistake it for a (public) water fountain?
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I know it was ruled illegal to use infrared cameras to pick out growlights w/o a warrant. They judge said that if the technology was so common that people expect random people to use infrared cameras on their house that it would have been ok, but seeing as joe shmo doesn't have this tech it was unconstitutional because you can reasonably expect that random people won't be looking at your house with the infrared equipment.
You know, I'm not that sure that men really do have (on average) more physical strength than women. I mean, women spend all day cleaning and doing housework, thats more physical activity than going to a real job in a developed country where you sit at a computer all day.
I have a horrible sense of humor, I apologize. I respect women, really. . . prolly should have made this post AC.
Yes, they would do routine simulated EVA's. So walking outside shortly after getting out of bed and seeing the sunset would probably be bad for the circadian rhythm:)
...the point being that you can run pentium-optimized code in an athlon or AMD64 optimized code in an intel 64bit Core 2 without loss of performance.
Uh, if you compile something using -march=athlon-xp and then try to run it an intel procesor, it will likely segfault (intel doesn't have 3dnow for example). There is a big difference in terms of performance between using -march and -mtune. -mtune optimizes it for a certain processor while still making it possible to run on others, by using -march you make it compile for ONLY that processor, any processor-specific registers, ops, etc. are used wherever possible which ends up meaning that it can segfault when running on different processors. So you can compile something with -march=i686 -mtune=athlon-xp if you want it to cater slightly to athlon xp's, but still run on any 686 processor. Many packages are compiled with -march=i686 which makes it fairly fast for any modern processor, but those compiled with -march=i386 -mtune=i686 or some such. . big difference when you switch to -march=athlon-xp. ..Don't get me started on using -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer, etc. -O3 makes it slightly less stable but slightly faster, omitting the frame pointer will break debugging. . but people don't usually care.
Basically for a bit extra effort you can squeeze out more performance out of your box (at the cost of time installing packages), and depending on the package used and what it is normally compiled with, the difference can be huge (I've seen a speedup of ~25% on certain programs just by messing with flags). With gentoo, even "hello world" will get optimized with 3dnow, sse, mmx,etc. if possible. ..It just may not run on a pentium 2 if it's compiled for an athlon-xp:)
TFA said they used Mars time during the 24-hour sunlight, they simply covered their windows from 8am to 8pm. If they used Mars time continuously sunset/sunrise would slowly shift around and would probably really mess up their circadian rhythm.
On a side not you are correct that it was more of a psychology experiment, though that wasn't the extent of their goals. They did things like try to figure out ways to minimize their water usage, etc. Basically anything they could simulate and figure out here on earth they did. Now when NASA says "Ok, how are we going to decrease water usage by 10%" they actually have a very well documented simulation to review through and see what works and what doesn't. Basically before this everything was open to conjecture, now we have tangible information to work with, though not 100% accurate to a real mars mission it is better than nothing.
Ever want to do some x64 development (with windows apps, don't bother replying "USE LINUX")? Try windows xp x64. ..vista is the holy grail compared to that thing. . . Anyways, Vista actually utilizes all 4 core of my computer and all 8 gigs of memory. Granted thats while playing solitaire but still, nice to know it isn't going to waste:) Honestly though, it is by far the best 64-bit OS from MS that I have seen, everything else is either targetted towards servers, lacking some common desktop functionality and/or has maybe 1/100th the driver support regular ol' XP does.
Who is more foolish? the fool who posts the quote, or the fool who comments on it?
According to the ancient bylaws of slashdot the "fool" is the last guy to post a reply that fails to get a funny mod. You can actually empirically state "see, right there, he just took it too far; it's not funny anymore."** Also, it is possible for this to be overruled by a +5 informative post that replies to and simply tears apart the fool's post with plenty of evidence, anecdotes, and appropriate hyperlinks.
**There is a clause to this particular bylaw that excludes grammar nazis, apparently they are never fools as they are always technically correct. Upon further review a poster that attempts to correct grammar that isn't technically correct is not a grammar nazi but an idiot and (should he fail to get a funny mod) a fool . Seriously who would post incorrect grammatical corrections. . . .
What rights? The right to violate copyright law? Before modding me troll, keep in mind that what most of these people do is copyright violation even though most people wouldn't think it is that big of a problem. What needs to happen is jury nullification or legislation to change to catch up to the new information age.
Yeah that makes sense. Thats probably why they nuked my aunt's bone marrow and replaced it with my mothers. If I recall correctly it did stop it for a while but ended up being more of a stopgap than a viable treatment. I remember my mother telling me something like if they did that on a normal person the replacement marrow could have aggravated the auto-immune bit more but since they were identical twins there was no fear of rejection.
Well in that case the genetic factor are risk-factors and not definitive. There are many genetic diseases where you WILL develop symptoms if your DNA is a certain way. I'm saying I don't think MS has such a direct link to DNA based on my anecdotal evidence. That is why I'm questioning exactly what this "DNA vaccine" is doing.
First off, IANAD, though both my mother and aunt are. My aunt has fairly severe MS, she can't walk, lost some dexterity in her left arm, etc. What is interesting is that my mother is an identical twin, and doesn't suffer from MS at all. They did some experimental treatments utilizing this unique situation, one of which was some sort of combination of Chemo therapy and a bone marrow transplant. Does this vaccine simple get rid of some "risk factors" in the DNA? Obviously I'd find it hard to believe that there is a direct relationship between DNA and MS. . .
Get some perspective, consider how much record labels make, then look at the amount they owe: $68,685.23. I dunno but that seems like a bit like saying someone is broke when their child asks them for a quarter for the gum-ball machine and they shrug it off. Even if said person was broke you'd think they'd find a way to get a quarter to keep the screaming kid happy:-p
Your logic is flawed. I certainly expect a cigarette to cause a fire, so I'm not about to leave a lit one sitting on my desk full of papers. However, I'd think it would be perfectly reasonable to let my laptop sit next to some papers. Basically, Dell's laptops have an interesting tendency to spontaneously combust. . .it's not a freak accident, and not something that all laptops do. That is the reason that this is getting so much attention, no laptop should emit a small fireworks show and then burst into flames spewing all sorts of nasty chemical fumes. . .
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So like. . an intel 2 duo that takes a room and miles of cable?
Mod parent up, not only is the post wildly off topic, but the subject is wildly offtopic from the post. . .so clearly they cancel each other out
.I read it because I was curious. . it's the literal form of goatse...
I'm kidding, don't mod it up. .
The exploit she used was a real one. Check it out:
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/4831
I know someone is going to say it but I don't feel like monitoring my thread: If the guy giving away pens for free stands next to the guy selling him, it will surely his business.
One thing you have to understand here is that the "pens" aren't the same, especially when you consider music culture. Collectors like having physical media with their favorite bands as well as the artwork, fancy looking CD, etc. It would be like the 10 cents pen comming in a nice box with a booklet on it's history, a warranty, and a certificate of authenticity whereas the free pen is just the pen itself, and might be defective (corrupt mp3). Both are functionally identical but fundamentally different. If I am looking for a pen I will spend the 10 cents extra to make sure that it's a decent pen and if I collect pens the 10 cents is well worth the cost of having the nice box to display it in and the interesting literature. If I just need something to write with I'll grab the free pen because I just plain don't care so long as it works. Whether or not free pens exist I still wouldn't feel like spending the 10 cents on an "official" pen.
I have never bought a CD in my life, I just listen to the radio. I have a few MP3's but certainly nothing worthy of being called a "collection". Whether or not pirating exists they record companies would/will never make money off me, I am not interested in their product.
What kind of idiot still believes illicit downloads = lost sales. Simple economics, if the price changes (to nothing) then you're going to see a lot more use. . if right now the world downloads 100 million songs a day that doesn't mean that if piracy didn't exist they would instead buy 100 million songs a day. . .It's just such a blatant twisting of facts who wouldn't see through it? If someone hands you a pen and says "it's free" would you take it? Now if someone handed you a pen and said "10 cents please" would you take it? I bet those "free" pens would move quite a bit quicker even though 10 cents isn't a bad price for a pen. There is a huge difference between "free" and. . well. . anything else really.
OK, lets quit tossing around analogies and look at the underlying facts for a moment.
.the REAL controversial issue is with people that set it up but don't know how to secure it. It'd be like buying a sink and not knowing how to install it inside so you install it outside. . .can others mistake it for a (public) water fountain?
Stealing a bike analogy(wrong): By taking a bike you are depriving them of property, as well as the use of the bike which they may depend on. If there were a candy bar on someone's porch, would you take it? No, because even though the value is small you know that if you take it the original owner no longer has it.
Water fountain analogy (OK): If there is a water fountain set up in someone's front yard, can you use it w/o asking? Most people would say yes as you aren't causing them much harm and the financial cost of the water you consume will be virtually infinitesimal.
Hooking up a hose and "stealing" water analogy (wrong): In this case you act on your own and actively work to get their water, they never made any effort to make it available to you, also, the cost will NOT be negligible.
What does it all mean? If there is a WEP or similar you must actively work around it, which ties into the hooking up a hose analogy, so it's "wrong". If you see a open AP and decide to check your email with it, this is OK as they didn't make the effort to make it secure either because they want it open or they were negligent. If you use it to torrent or somesuch, you are falling into the "stealing of water" analogy as the bandwidth you use is not negligible. So IMO, if it is open and you use it for light traffic, thats ok. If there is any indication they don't want you on it, maybe not even encryption but an SSID of "Private-Network" or something other than the default, don't use it. If you want to torrent or do anything heavy, not OK unless you have some prior agreement with the owner of the network. .
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I know it was ruled illegal to use infrared cameras to pick out growlights w/o a warrant. They judge said that if the technology was so common that people expect random people to use infrared cameras on their house that it would have been ok, but seeing as joe shmo doesn't have this tech it was unconstitutional because you can reasonably expect that random people won't be looking at your house with the infrared equipment.
You know, I'm not that sure that men really do have (on average) more physical strength than women. I mean, women spend all day cleaning and doing housework, thats more physical activity than going to a real job in a developed country where you sit at a computer all day.
I have a horrible sense of humor, I apologize. I respect women, really. . . prolly should have made this post AC.
Yes, they would do routine simulated EVA's. So walking outside shortly after getting out of bed and seeing the sunset would probably be bad for the circadian rhythm :)
Uh, if you compile something using -march=athlon-xp and then try to run it an intel procesor, it will likely segfault (intel doesn't have 3dnow for example). There is a big difference in terms of performance between using -march and -mtune. -mtune optimizes it for a certain processor while still making it possible to run on others, by using -march you make it compile for ONLY that processor, any processor-specific registers, ops, etc. are used wherever possible which ends up meaning that it can segfault when running on different processors. So you can compile something with -march=i686 -mtune=athlon-xp if you want it to cater slightly to athlon xp's, but still run on any 686 processor. Many packages are compiled with -march=i686 which makes it fairly fast for any modern processor, but those compiled with -march=i386 -mtune=i686 or some such. . big difference when you switch to -march=athlon-xp. .
Basically for a bit extra effort you can squeeze out more performance out of your box (at the cost of time installing packages), and depending on the package used and what it is normally compiled with, the difference can be huge (I've seen a speedup of ~25% on certain programs just by messing with flags). With gentoo, even "hello world" will get optimized with 3dnow, sse, mmx,etc. if possible. .
TFA said they used Mars time during the 24-hour sunlight, they simply covered their windows from 8am to 8pm. If they used Mars time continuously sunset/sunrise would slowly shift around and would probably really mess up their circadian rhythm.
On a side not you are correct that it was more of a psychology experiment, though that wasn't the extent of their goals. They did things like try to figure out ways to minimize their water usage, etc. Basically anything they could simulate and figure out here on earth they did. Now when NASA says "Ok, how are we going to decrease water usage by 10%" they actually have a very well documented simulation to review through and see what works and what doesn't. Basically before this everything was open to conjecture, now we have tangible information to work with, though not 100% accurate to a real mars mission it is better than nothing.
Ever want to do some x64 development (with windows apps, don't bother replying "USE LINUX")? Try windows xp x64. . .vista is the holy grail compared to that thing. . . Anyways, Vista actually utilizes all 4 core of my computer and all 8 gigs of memory. Granted thats while playing solitaire but still, nice to know it isn't going to waste :) Honestly though, it is by far the best 64-bit OS from MS that I have seen, everything else is either targetted towards servers, lacking some common desktop functionality and/or has maybe 1/100th the driver support regular ol' XP does.
According to the ancient bylaws of slashdot the "fool" is the last guy to post a reply that fails to get a funny mod. You can actually empirically state "see, right there, he just took it too far; it's not funny anymore."** Also, it is possible for this to be overruled by a +5 informative post that replies to and simply tears apart the fool's post with plenty of evidence, anecdotes, and appropriate hyperlinks.
**There is a clause to this particular bylaw that excludes grammar nazis, apparently they are never fools as they are always technically correct. Upon further review a poster that attempts to correct grammar that isn't technically correct is not a grammar nazi but an idiot and (should he fail to get a funny mod) a fool . Seriously who would post incorrect grammatical corrections. . . .
Yes. As soon as they get home.
And the 5th? Dead from a gum infection. . .natural selection was much harsher back then.
Apparently the same people that don't like being told what they are doing is puzzling and not worth the trouble.
Open to public? Public? Want to stop by? Check this out: http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=Quarropas+St,+Wh ite+Plains,+NY&geocode=&saddr=&f=d&hl=en&sll=41.02 9449,-73.768966&sspn=0.00968,0.020084&ie=UTF8&ll=4 1.027248,-73.765168&spn=0.01936,0.040169&z=15&om=1
What rights? The right to violate copyright law? Before modding me troll, keep in mind that what most of these people do is copyright violation even though most people wouldn't think it is that big of a problem. What needs to happen is jury nullification or legislation to change to catch up to the new information age.
Yeah that makes sense. Thats probably why they nuked my aunt's bone marrow and replaced it with my mothers. If I recall correctly it did stop it for a while but ended up being more of a stopgap than a viable treatment. I remember my mother telling me something like if they did that on a normal person the replacement marrow could have aggravated the auto-immune bit more but since they were identical twins there was no fear of rejection.
Well in that case the genetic factor are risk-factors and not definitive. There are many genetic diseases where you WILL develop symptoms if your DNA is a certain way. I'm saying I don't think MS has such a direct link to DNA based on my anecdotal evidence. That is why I'm questioning exactly what this "DNA vaccine" is doing.
Chicken == God
Creator of man and raw materials that are used to build this spacecraft.
First off, IANAD, though both my mother and aunt are. My aunt has fairly severe MS, she can't walk, lost some dexterity in her left arm, etc. What is interesting is that my mother is an identical twin, and doesn't suffer from MS at all. They did some experimental treatments utilizing this unique situation, one of which was some sort of combination of Chemo therapy and a bone marrow transplant. Does this vaccine simple get rid of some "risk factors" in the DNA? Obviously I'd find it hard to believe that there is a direct relationship between DNA and MS. . .
Get some perspective, consider how much record labels make, then look at the amount they owe: $68,685.23. I dunno but that seems like a bit like saying someone is broke when their child asks them for a quarter for the gum-ball machine and they shrug it off. Even if said person was broke you'd think they'd find a way to get a quarter to keep the screaming kid happy :-p