1.10.3.2.3 (07-08-2011) Emails as Possible Federal Records
All federal employees and federal contractors are required by law to preserve records containing adequate and proper documentation of the organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, and essential transactions of the agency. Records must be properly stored and preserved, available for retrieval and subject to appropriate approved disposition schedules.
And that disposition schedule is 6 months.
So, no, they don't need to keep them forever. Yes, they do actually expire & get deleted. Every single day.
Prior to the eruption of the IRS controversy last spring, the IRS had a policy of backing up the data on its email server (which runs Microsoft Outlook) every day. It kept a backup of the records for six months on digital tape, according to a letter sent from the IRS to Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah).
Why doesn't anyone on slashdot ask more pertinent questions.
Like how long were the backups supposed to stick around? What's user SOP for managing old emails? What's IT's SOP for managing old emails? How were they backed up? How reliable/tested was the backup process, medium & recovery? Or should we all just assume that everything is kept forever AND recoverable?
Maybe their data retention is 3 months. And higher ups didn't understand what that meant and called it a crash/purge/accident/whatever.
I don't believe there are any actual regulations on how long you have to keep data, other than to have a stated length of time. I know that's how it worked where I was an email admin. We decided on 6 months. And legal okayed it. 6months & 1 day, it's all gone.
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It's as if most customers choose cheap, disposable junk.
Maybe somebody could start a store like that.
Call it Junkmart, or something like that.
Slashdot usually managed to maintain a higher standard.
Well, I can go to bed now. I got a good workout laughing so hard at this.
Therefore the obvious (but depressing) solution is to create borders on the internet
Just unplug your computer.
And you have to opt-in. So they're already in compliance with the law.
So, .com emails don't get sent to Canada, and shouldn't be required to follow Canadian law because they're not .ca?
I'm pretty sure you're the one who deserves derision. And rightfully so.
How delusional are you?
They already are.
And if they already have a dozen ways to break encryption?
What then?
That's kind of my point.
You get your food from a grocery store, where everything is plentiful.
Thus your anecdote has no bearing on the question.
Go camping for a week without food, and have to scavenge for yourself. See what you 'prefer'.
As if it fucking matters.
Come on. That's not true.
Why every computer company on earth only sells one unit of their latest designs and then gives away the rest for free.
How about all the millions of innocents they've killed.
They sure as hell aren't free.
IF they go to college.
For women, yes.
Actually, that's borne out pretty well in the graph posted by Rei above.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nQ-n...
So, how do you align your first paragraph with your second?
What reasons for said cooperation do you want? That isn't "vacuous, moralistic bullshit" and/or completely self-serving?
The IRS' disposition schedule for email is 6 months. Per the congressional hearing.
1.10.3.2.3 (07-08-2011)
Emails as Possible Federal Records
All federal employees and federal contractors are required by law to preserve records containing adequate and proper documentation of the organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, and essential transactions of the agency. Records must be properly stored and preserved, available for retrieval and subject to appropriate approved disposition schedules.
And that disposition schedule is 6 months.
So, no, they don't need to keep them forever. Yes, they do actually expire & get deleted. Every single day.
Fucking google it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...
Prior to the eruption of the IRS controversy last spring, the IRS had a policy of backing up the data on its email server (which runs Microsoft Outlook) every day. It kept a backup of the records for six months on digital tape, according to a letter sent from the IRS to Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah).
the retention period is until the National Archive says so.
Uh, no it's actually 6 months.
This was my point exactly.
Because many people seemed to be unaware that the answers were already out there.
Sorry, you lost it at the first, completely unrealistic, word.
Why doesn't anyone on slashdot ask more pertinent questions.
Like how long were the backups supposed to stick around?
What's user SOP for managing old emails?
What's IT's SOP for managing old emails?
How were they backed up?
How reliable/tested was the backup process, medium & recovery?
Or should we all just assume that everything is kept forever AND recoverable?
Maybe their data retention is 3 months. And higher ups didn't understand what that meant and called it a crash/purge/accident/whatever.
I don't believe there are any actual regulations on how long you have to keep data, other than to have a stated length of time. I know that's how it worked where I was an email admin. We decided on 6 months. And legal okayed it. 6months & 1 day, it's all gone.
You'd have to buy their phone first. To take a picture of the car you want to buy.