If you want C# then why not mono? Then you don't have to spend the license fees for all those Windows boxen. Seems pretty obvious. Linux already clusters quite well, just add Mono/C#.
To me the redeeming qualities of MS-DOS were that it was usable, simple and deficient. The deficiency is a plus because it inspired many people to add their own layers and tweaks. Knowing the internals of DOS could produce big benefits without an excessive investment of effort. I don't regret my DOS programming days, lots of fun. Windows wasn't fun, Linux is more like the DOS days in some ways but more grown up. Though you can't really compare those OS's since their target audience was different. Having said all that I'd never go back.
Almost anything would have been better than the original. It has just started here and so far seems so good I almost don't think it should carry the same name. As for spoilers I don't care... I get more pissed off when I think of really good plot lines that don't occur in the series.
Had a bad flash back to the old series when someone mentioned the kid, ewwwww... remember the 'dagget' ?
Ah yeah. I remember a comment on your site or somewhere a few years ago about working in Sydney and not having much time for E, which I thought a pity. But you have to keep the wolves from the door. Still I hope you have a collection of willing lieutenants willing to take on some of your work.
What is the chance of seeing a beta (or an alpha) of E17 that is installable on something like Fedora 3 say? That would attract the coding hordes.
Giving me that old cvs itch to try it again. What you should do on E's site is have a simple (if possible) checklist to compile the thing.. as in a list of links of required libraries etc as a checklist. Last time I looked the info was there but dispersed. But as I said I haven't given a serious look recently.
Anyway. I hope you get more cash and more time. Best of luck.
Enlightenment exploded on the linux community like well... nothing else... it was damn beautiful. Not highly usable, but neither were its competitors at the time. And we could not wait for E17...and wait and wait. Sigh. I remember downloading compiling versions from CVS. But I have better things to do. I tried compiling E17... no luck, guess I just don't have the patience anymore.
What Rasterman needs more than anything else is some kind of manager over him who will say. "Do nightly builds", "Release a beta RPM/DEB/whatever", "Comment your code". I personally think Rasterman is a goddam genius, but he needs some order to get stuff out the door. I fervently hope we get E17 soon.
I don't know why everyone is getting all 'mystical' about this, it is a perfectly reasonable idea. In fact I remember reading of experiments conducted many years ago where the researchers fed sub-audible tones of slightly different frequencies to each of the ears subjects. The subjects heard beating of the tones. The beating was in their brain not their ears. So they didn't throw away the sub-audible data, something kept it... why? One suspects because the brain can find a use for such data.
There are plenty of examples in modern times of people refusing to heed obvious signs of danger because they thought things would be ok. To me the classic example is the eruption that of Mount Pelee in 1902. One wonders how an entire city could end up being wiped out with such obvious signs, maybe civilisation cocoons us with a belief that "someone else will fix it, and it will be alright", whereas 'primitives' know that in the final analysis they have to look after their own well being.
... this from a guy who left medicine to write / direct TV/movies. And then at one stage wanted to lecture the scientific community about spoon bending and auras (see his book Travels). A very entertaining guy who likes to rub scientists up the wrong way (this is so clear from his movies and he states it openly in Travels). But when he decides to criticise something way out of his area of expertise then he better know what he is talking about.
So what does this article actually tell us. Well he bemoans stuff about how the Nuclear Winter argument was 'sold' and we complains about scare campaigns. Sorry, did I blink, where was the argument against global warming? Oh shit there is none. He argues that because other alarms didn't pan out then therefore we should not listen to any other alarms. This is stupid. Clever writing, entertaining. But a shit argument. Who believes this crap?
It would have been more accurate for the grand-parent to state that "global warming is no longer a topic of debate", just like the shape of the earth is no longer a topic of debate. When people argue about global warming here it is about what should be done, can anything be done blah blah.
As for a cold period. That is so funny. We came out of an Ice Age , 12,000 years ago... do you get it? The typical interglacial is about 10,000 years long. If anything we should be heading into an Ice Age... though the length of interglacials is quite variable. There is a lot of evidence for global warming but to me the most convincing is the work done on borehole measurements into permafrost. The permafrost temperature profile shows a pulse of heat moving down the column starting in the 20th century. Clear evidence.
My personal opinion is that it is too late (realistically) to have more than a slight impact on the effects now, the die is cast. It is not realistic to expect humans to save themselves. There is even disturbing evidence just made public that the West Antarctic Ice Shelf may be in the process of collapse... if that is true then nothing this side of an ice age will stop it.
As the GP said, to the rest of the world the US view on this is well.. peculiar. On other things you seem so reasonable and educated, but on this...
Not necessarily. Back in the 1960s James Lovelock (of Gaia Hypothesis fame) was working for NASA on detecting life on other planets. He reasoned that to detect life all you needed to do was to see if the atmospheric chemistry was far from equilibrium. He used Earth as his example explaining that the presence of highly reactive oxygen and other clues indicates life. He suggested to NASA that a 1000 inch telescope be built to get detailed chemistry information on the other planets to determine if there was life without the need to send probes. NASA turned it down.
So the presence of methane on Mars is not a trivial thing.
Is the "possibility of life" a grant magnet? Of course, so is cancer, HIV, etc. Doesn't mean they don't have something important to say.
The most disturbing thing about my comment is I am absolutely deadly serious. There nothing like repeated confirmation to enforce a belief. I know these people are probably quite intelligent and reasonable people outside of a CvsE debate, but when they are in it... well as I said observation repeatedly confirmed shows that they just shut off their higher brain functions or something.
The reality is that attacking Creationists is so much fun. Their comically stupid in the way they repeat their arguments ad infinitum, yet it stimulates you to read stuff you don't normally read. However, it does radicalise you too much. Which is why I stopped. But lots of fun. And yeah at the end of it you just can't treat them seriously, they don't even pass the Turing Test as far as I can see they are so mechanical in their thought processes. Sad but true.
Just what I thought. Next thought was man these people are clueless, how can such great software experiments have been forgotten? Sorry everyone I don't mean to offend, just meaning that I don't know why people think this stuff seems new, as if everyone has amnesia. Even Avida I've downloaded ages ago, the latest version on sourceforge is dated 2003.
Possible collapse of the West Antarctic Ice Shelf and the resulting flooding.
The print edition of New Scientist reports two "sleeping giants" of the global warming problem.
Collapse of the West Antarctic ice shelf, which some glaciologists now think is underway
The soil turning from carbon sink to carbon source. This is considered inevitable if it gets warm enough, but no-one knows if that temp will be reached.
Go to most people's places and they have to wrestle with the remotes for the DVD player / VCR / TV / Radio / etc... WTF? This is just crying out for a simple unifying device. Its bleeding obvious to anyone once they discover they have to use more than one remote. What they want is a simple remote, perhaps with visual assist of some kind... so think a PC sitting there picking up the IR commands displaying somehow (LCD or whatever) the mode, and list of commands.
A normal 2D image cannot be considered a reproduction of a 3D object. There is no way to reproduce the sculpture from a photo taken from one angle... so it can't be a reproduction. Although this may be the logical conclusion it doesn't mean a judge would necessarily listen to you.
Exactly. Slashdot should have a poll about when we think the actual beta release will be. I mean beta, it can't be that far away... as long as it boots, it works. Right?:)
MS must keep the troops motivated though. So WinFS is always 'real soon now'. Have MS actually delivered anything on time ? Not trolling, honest question.
Note that it is possible to have very large planets that do not have fusion as you describe but have such a large volume to surface area that they retain heat for a long time. That heat may be enough to actually make the planet glow like a star and warm a retinue of moon-planets. It would look like a dim star. I'd agree it is a planet but that that doesn't mean it cant have its own lifebearing worlds.
Remember Haldeman of Watergate fame? During the Vietnam War there was a strategy called Hearts and Minds to win over the local Vietnamese to fight the war instead of US and allied troops. Anyway Haldeman had on his desk a wooden plaque which read:
If you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow
Congratulations. Yawn. Due to the staggering delay between project start and minimal system, I think there will be a stunning lack of emotion until we see something friggin spectacular!
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If you want C# then why not mono? Then you don't have to spend the license fees for all those Windows boxen. Seems pretty obvious. Linux already clusters quite well, just add Mono/C#.
WCFE : Licensing to the power of N.
To me the redeeming qualities of MS-DOS were that it was usable, simple and deficient. The deficiency is a plus because it inspired many people to add their own layers and tweaks. Knowing the internals of DOS could produce big benefits without an excessive investment of effort. I don't regret my DOS programming days, lots of fun. Windows wasn't fun, Linux is more like the DOS days in some ways but more grown up. Though you can't really compare those OS's since their target audience was different. Having said all that I'd never go back.
... is defined as being 25.4 millimetres as I recall.
It's only a matter of time before my quantum computer is produced, and it's powered by Lucky Charms and Beer.
... or a really good cup of strong tea. [ oblig. Hitchiker's reference ] Though that was for the infinite improbability drive I think.
Almost anything would have been better than the original. It has just started here and so far seems so good I almost don't think it should carry the same name. As for spoilers I don't care ... I get more pissed off when I think of really good plot lines that don't occur in the series.
Had a bad flash back to the old series when someone mentioned the kid, ewwwww ... remember the 'dagget' ?
Ah yeah. I remember a comment on your site or somewhere a few years ago about working in Sydney and not having much time for E, which I thought a pity. But you have to keep the wolves from the door. Still I hope you have a collection of willing lieutenants willing to take on some of your work.
What is the chance of seeing a beta (or an alpha) of E17 that is installable on something like Fedora 3 say? That would attract the coding hordes.
Giving me that old cvs itch to try it again. What you should do on E's site is have a simple (if possible) checklist to compile the thing .. as in a list of links of required libraries etc as a checklist. Last time I looked the info was there but dispersed. But as I said I haven't given a serious look recently.
Anyway. I hope you get more cash and more time. Best of luck.
Enlightenment exploded on the linux community like well ... nothing else ... it was damn beautiful. Not highly usable, but neither were its competitors at the time. And we could not wait for E17 ...and wait and wait. Sigh. I remember downloading compiling versions from CVS. But I have better things to do. I tried compiling E17 ... no luck, guess I just don't have the patience anymore.
What Rasterman needs more than anything else is some kind of manager over him who will say. "Do nightly builds", "Release a beta RPM/DEB/whatever", "Comment your code". I personally think Rasterman is a goddam genius, but he needs some order to get stuff out the door. I fervently hope we get E17 soon.
I don't know why everyone is getting all 'mystical' about this, it is a perfectly reasonable idea. In fact I remember reading of experiments conducted many years ago where the researchers fed sub-audible tones of slightly different frequencies to each of the ears subjects. The subjects heard beating of the tones. The beating was in their brain not their ears. So they didn't throw away the sub-audible data, something kept it ... why? One suspects because the brain can find a use for such data.
There are plenty of examples in modern times of people refusing to heed obvious signs of danger because they thought things would be ok. To me the classic example is the eruption that of Mount Pelee in 1902. One wonders how an entire city could end up being wiped out with such obvious signs, maybe civilisation cocoons us with a belief that "someone else will fix it, and it will be alright", whereas 'primitives' know that in the final analysis they have to look after their own well being.
Can just see it. A critic reviewing it as: "a sublime parody of the Star Wars genre".
... this from a guy who left medicine to write / direct TV/movies. And then at one stage wanted to lecture the scientific community about spoon bending and auras (see his book Travels). A very entertaining guy who likes to rub scientists up the wrong way (this is so clear from his movies and he states it openly in Travels). But when he decides to criticise something way out of his area of expertise then he better know what he is talking about.
So what does this article actually tell us. Well he bemoans stuff about how the Nuclear Winter argument was 'sold' and we complains about scare campaigns. Sorry, did I blink, where was the argument against global warming? Oh shit there is none. He argues that because other alarms didn't pan out then therefore we should not listen to any other alarms. This is stupid. Clever writing, entertaining. But a shit argument. Who believes this crap?
It would have been more accurate for the grand-parent to state that "global warming is no longer a topic of debate", just like the shape of the earth is no longer a topic of debate. When people argue about global warming here it is about what should be done, can anything be done blah blah.
As for a cold period. That is so funny. We came out of an Ice Age , 12,000 years ago ... do you get it? The typical interglacial is about 10,000 years long. If anything we should be heading into an Ice Age ... though the length of interglacials is quite variable. There is a lot of evidence for global warming but to me the most convincing is the work done on borehole measurements into permafrost. The permafrost temperature profile shows a pulse of heat moving down the column starting in the 20th century. Clear evidence.
My personal opinion is that it is too late (realistically) to have more than a slight impact on the effects now, the die is cast. It is not realistic to expect humans to save themselves. There is even disturbing evidence just made public that the West Antarctic Ice Shelf may be in the process of collapse ... if that is true then nothing this side of an ice age will stop it.
As the GP said, to the rest of the world the US view on this is well .. peculiar. On other things you seem so reasonable and educated, but on this ...
I'm disturbed that I instantly remembered the quote from Little Britain. It just has that Murdoch press ring to it doesn't it?
Jeez, this is so transparent.
Not necessarily. Back in the 1960s James Lovelock (of Gaia Hypothesis fame) was working for NASA on detecting life on other planets. He reasoned that to detect life all you needed to do was to see if the atmospheric chemistry was far from equilibrium. He used Earth as his example explaining that the presence of highly reactive oxygen and other clues indicates life. He suggested to NASA that a 1000 inch telescope be built to get detailed chemistry information on the other planets to determine if there was life without the need to send probes. NASA turned it down.
So the presence of methane on Mars is not a trivial thing.
Is the "possibility of life" a grant magnet? Of course, so is cancer, HIV, etc. Doesn't mean they don't have something important to say.
The most disturbing thing about my comment is I am absolutely deadly serious. There nothing like repeated confirmation to enforce a belief. I know these people are probably quite intelligent and reasonable people outside of a CvsE debate, but when they are in it ... well as I said observation repeatedly confirmed shows that they just shut off their higher brain functions or something.
The reality is that attacking Creationists is so much fun. Their comically stupid in the way they repeat their arguments ad infinitum, yet it stimulates you to read stuff you don't normally read. However, it does radicalise you too much. Which is why I stopped. But lots of fun. And yeah at the end of it you just can't treat them seriously, they don't even pass the Turing Test as far as I can see they are so mechanical in their thought processes. Sad but true.
Sounds like Tierra from the early 1990s
Just what I thought. Next thought was man these people are clueless, how can such great software experiments have been forgotten? Sorry everyone I don't mean to offend, just meaning that I don't know why people think this stuff seems new, as if everyone has amnesia. Even Avida I've downloaded ages ago, the latest version on sourceforge is dated 2003.
Add:
Possible collapse of the West Antarctic Ice Shelf and the resulting flooding.
The print edition of New Scientist reports two "sleeping giants" of the global warming problem.
Go to most people's places and they have to wrestle with the remotes for the DVD player / VCR / TV / Radio / etc ... WTF? This is just crying out for a simple unifying device. Its bleeding obvious to anyone once they discover they have to use more than one remote. What they want is a simple remote, perhaps with visual assist of some kind ... so think a PC sitting there picking up the IR commands displaying somehow (LCD or whatever) the mode, and list of commands.
A normal 2D image cannot be considered a reproduction of a 3D object. There is no way to reproduce the sculpture from a photo taken from one angle ... so it can't be a reproduction. Although this may be the logical conclusion it doesn't mean a judge would necessarily listen to you.
Exactly. Slashdot should have a poll about when we think the actual beta release will be. I mean beta, it can't be that far away ... as long as it boots, it works. Right? :)
MS must keep the troops motivated though. So WinFS is always 'real soon now'. Have MS actually delivered anything on time ? Not trolling, honest question.
Note that it is possible to have very large planets that do not have fusion as you describe but have such a large volume to surface area that they retain heat for a long time. That heat may be enough to actually make the planet glow like a star and warm a retinue of moon-planets. It would look like a dim star. I'd agree it is a planet but that that doesn't mean it cant have its own lifebearing worlds.
Remember Haldeman of Watergate fame? During the Vietnam War there was a strategy called Hearts and Minds to win over the local Vietnamese to fight the war instead of US and allied troops. Anyway Haldeman had on his desk a wooden plaque which read:
I'm sure the CTOs can appreciate that.
Yeah this is a milestone. Or is that a millstone.
Congratulations. Yawn. Due to the staggering delay between project start and minimal system, I think there will be a stunning lack of emotion until we see something friggin spectacular!