I think there are two large factors that contribute to this apparent 'shunning' which doesn't seem to really be a thing.
1) The price of admission is enormous for youngsters, people who don't have profitable employment, and people who can't manage their finances well. Dropping $60 to see a production like The Lion King is laughable to people at any age, except for those who are especially.. we'll say financially gifted. It doesn't matter how good it is, it's hard to spend that much on anything that you only get to enjoy once. They'll never spend it on a ballgame and will barely spend that on a concert unless it's some major gotta-see-it hero of their childhood to which all of their friends are going, and it's a lot easier to find people who share your taste in music than your taste in plays.
2) The plays are usually 'boring' to them. I can understand that. After being forced to do critical analyses of things like A Raisin in the Sun in school, who wants to go see it live? Not me, not anyone else who had to do that. But that's what they insist upon producing at the establishments. It takes a special kind of literary enthusiast to want to see that. The financial benefactors give them money to present a play they want, and those benefactors are usually not the common man with simpler, baser tastes in entertainment. You may have noticed that the much-publicized Spiderman play is so successful... it's relevant to their culture and tastes.
I really would like to see these points addressed somehow, but I really can't imagine how it would be done in a financially successful manner. Well, you know actors and playwrights never historically lived in opulence, so I guess it's finally been refined down to asking "will we make enough money if we run this show".
That is a fantastic reply. If I wasn't the person you were replying to, you would get a mod point.
People have differing tastes in entertainment. Yours is quite valid and would be quite difficult or in some cases impossible to replicate onstage.
I enjoy both worlds, the two being live plays and filmed productions. They are two very different forms of the art of storytelling as other posters have noted. Recently, I enjoyed a production of Shakespeare's Richard III. (And then wound up watching the related movie Anonymous a few weeks later.) Everything was quite well directed and the acting was great. However the play was slower paced and at a much lower overall sound level than a movie would be, so I had to stay focused on the play to avoid being pulled out of it by various environmental disturbances. You have to suspend not only disbelief (perhaps a better term could be found for this) but also your comprehension of the space around you. You have to deal with imperfect audio and other production glitches, reuse a very few sparse set pieces to spark your imagination, sit in uncomfortable seating, and probably wind up being aware of the acoustically "live" space around you that allows you to perceive your fellow patrons and vice-versa much more so than in a movie theater. For some people, that is very much unenjoyable. It really boils down to the fact that I like to see actors working live sometimes.
Do you find that the temporal resolution of the video really makes much of a difference in your enjoyment, as a large proportion of commenters seem to indicate?
from what I've read about 48fps, that's exactly the problem people ran into. people said things like "my brain was not processing what I was seeing as 'two hobbits walking up a hill' but rather 'two actors in hobbit costumes walking up a hill'". They were having difficulty suspending disbelief.
They must have a REALLY hard time with live theatre.
That's some fancy Jason Bourne stuff you're talking about. Ever thought about writing? Sure, you can't prevent people from posting pictures, since every grunt's wife wants pictures of her man in uniform. But that's a concern at all military installations. There are protocols for these things and all communications are generally reviewed from really sensitive areas or people who have made mistakes. They should build a nondescript room for accessing the 'net so people can take webcam pictures without worrying about that.
I was thinking of the other end with my post. Some foreign gov't could set up a false VPN company, or put a Secret Closet into an existing VPN provider's facility, and have some people post glowing recommendations for it here. Or at any rate, they would know where the VPN endpoint is, with company name and/or location, which is very valuable intelligence. Since the asker is looking for what I assume is a set of the most popular opinions, it's a pretty ripe opportunity.
Why, it even sounds like something US intelligence would do! For example, https://www.eff.org/cases/hepting . Don't put anything past other people if we're doing it too.
You realize that some of the people reading Slashdot around the world are going to have a vested interest in getting a back door into your affairs, right?
This would be an excellent trap to catch foreign agents.
Double-click the tab header OR in 2010 click the chevron at the right to hide the ribbon, so it looks menu-like. Then you can hover over the tab and the ribbon will un-hide while your mouse is over it. Problem solved!
You've got a point, it would make a good game for the under-13 audience. I guess I was expecting it to be more of a challenging game that adults could enjoy too, since I have always enjoyed Kirby games.
Regarding HDTV, that's interesting and possibly true. I still have an older CRT HDTV, and it looks wonderful on there. CRTs looked good at different resolutions, which is something LCD panels just don't do well. I could see that argument. It's disappointing that such an expensive HD panel would upscale incoming SD content so poorly.
Geometry Wars was one of the first killer apps for the XBOX. The Wii version is my favorite version - it's a real must-experience, IMO.
I play a whole bunch of online games on my PC, which has a keyboard, which is mandatory IMO for online games. So I have that already, I just wanted something to add to that and the Wii fit the bill very well. I also don't NEED a game to be online-enabled to enjoy it. (Thank you, Diablo III.) Some games are good single player experiences. There is nothing wrong with enjoying all different kinds of games, surely other gamers would agree. I don't get the singleplayer vs. online arguments that pretend there are no other options... there is another option: local multiplayer. When I play multiplayer, I prefer it if my friends are actually in the room, which does happen regularly. Who doesn't remember getting friends together for something like Goldeneye or Smash?
Some of us couldn't afford the old-school games when they were new. So it's been nice to finally be able to play those classics. So many games, so little time, though.
Yeah, there are other games on other systems that are fun. That's not the point. The point is that some games on THIS system are good and lots of fun, and this system fills a niche very well. I'm going to keep having fun, regardless of whether it gets anyone's bile up.
Er.... I have other things to do than continue to list games? There are quite a few other system-exclusive titles that were good. And it would be easy to make a list for any system, but this one was in scope at the moment.
Sorry to disappoint. Carry on... you might want to change your sig though, it doesn't match the things you post.
Some people apparently only want a system if it has HD graphics. Because, you know, all that crapware and those old-school emulated games look so much better in HD. And BRB, no-scoping some noobs that said they slept with my mother.
Please. I want fun games. How about these:
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess was amazing. The sound of arrows going from your controller to the screen... genius.
Warioware was great for springing on your unsuspecting friends.
Mario Galaxy was a head trip every time gravity wasn't straight down.
Geometry Wars with point-at-the-screen action... zen.
Super Smash Brothers Brawl: Best in series IMO.
Emulating a zillion classic console games flawlessly? Check. That classic controller.
New Super Mario Bros. Wii, the friendship killer. Good times. For me.
Let's just conveniently forget about Wii Music, the Kirby yarn game, Chocobo Dungeon, and the horribly botched Monkey Ball game... yikes, that game played like it had absolutely no QA.
I know. Kin you believe it? It's almost as bad as trying to read the Web on your TV... that's for Watch-ing video, not reading text in Courier or whatever other ugly font. Yessiree Bob. They sure do make a lot of mistakes. But I guess I'll get off my Soapbox Zuner or later.
The gradual migration from workers to lawmakers and the subsequent legislation of their greed has left us in a terrible state... Whatever happened to doing a job because you knew it needed to be done???
That sounds like the sort of thing you'd forward along to the town hall. The utilities might not care about you, but they do care about upsetting the government.
We're in the same ballpark. Yeah... I know what you're talking about with the metal guitar. I've done that and recorded that and am somewhat of an electric guitar enthusiast. Most metal guitar players have really crappy setups or really good setups that they've made crappy (mostly with distortion pedals, especially those who run directly out of that into a PA) and have played themselves half deaf. I haven't seen a guitar amp that could output much at that frequency - they usually have full-range speakers that produce lots of bass and midrange, with enough highs to get in the neighborhood of 10 KHz. Even the super expensive ones. It's always some really horrendously scooped EQ, but darn if they love that chugga-chugga-weeee sound. Sounds like your favorite bands need a new sound crew. Earplugs are worth a $1/pair to save your hearing and too many guitarists ignore that.
You know, if it's really painful though, maybe you should look into a hearing exam. Hypersensitivity to high pitches could be a sign of developing tinnitus or something else. It couldn't hurt to ask a professional if you haven't already.
I can hear the difference, but I have been a studio sound engineer in the past, and built an audio system that can reproduce it. I don't think most people have that combination. In fact, most people don't have speakers that can produce tones that span the common human's range of hearing of 20 Hz - 20 KHz, and don't know what that even sounds like. Some people can't hear the higher frequencies in that range, either, and sensitivity to the highs tend to drop off with age for some percentage of people. For some reason, I haven't had that happen yet, although by all accounts it should have.
It's a lot better to mix at high sample rates, since you can keep a higher amount of detail around for your mixing, effects and mastering software to work with, which means you have better a quality master file before you downsample. You do eventually downsample to CD quality after you're done mastering.
You know what? In some parts of the world, that's how it is.
You don't have to buy the eggs the same day. You also don't make only one day's worth of noodles at a time. That's really inefficient. No, you take some time, and prepare enough for a good number of meals. Then those noodles are ready to go whenever you are ready to make a meal for at least a few days or weeks. You don't let things get to the point where you don't have any food until you make more ingredients when you live like that.
Check it out, people lived like that for millennia. This whole idea of kicking back and relaxing after a hard day's work seems to be a modern invention. There used to be a reason to have a family and stick together - spreading out the labor.
Windows' mess has everything to do with backwards compatibility. If they could break that without angering their 90% market share, they'd go nuts. Go ahead and browse through something like http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing and check out all the horrible duct tape and shims that are in place to preserve old apps.
Technically OS/X IS for PCs. The hardware is the same. Intel x86 processors, same as any Windows desktop. Same onboard audio hardware, same video cards, same everything. The difference is the standard driver quality being much better (since there are comparatively few to maintain) and the backwards compatibility isn't there. You can dual, triple, whatever boot it with other OSes.
I really don't understand the hype. Neither option is particularly special.
It's a continual game of leapfrog. We'll see someone like Pirate Pay write autonomous swarms of bots to vote their own hosts up, which will make votes meaningless. How do you establish trust in a sea of anonymous hosts?
I don't get enough sleep during the week, so I drink a lot of sugary, caffeinated beverages at times to keep me awake at my desk job. That's not healthy, I know. However, I also take decently good multivitamins, cut out caffeine and switch to water by mid-afternoon, work out regularly following a personal trainer's advice, and tend to eat intelligently at mealtimes. I don't eat chips, popcorn, candy, cookies, or whatever else during the day.
This is what works for me, and I'm quite fit by any account. Right in the middle of the recommended weight chart for my height, actually, after a lot of long years in this business. So I would recommend giving it a try to anyone who's struggling with their own routine. Once you get into a habit, it's a lot easier to keep it going.
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I think there are two large factors that contribute to this apparent 'shunning' which doesn't seem to really be a thing.
1) The price of admission is enormous for youngsters, people who don't have profitable employment, and people who can't manage their finances well. Dropping $60 to see a production like The Lion King is laughable to people at any age, except for those who are especially.. we'll say financially gifted. It doesn't matter how good it is, it's hard to spend that much on anything that you only get to enjoy once. They'll never spend it on a ballgame and will barely spend that on a concert unless it's some major gotta-see-it hero of their childhood to which all of their friends are going, and it's a lot easier to find people who share your taste in music than your taste in plays.
2) The plays are usually 'boring' to them. I can understand that. After being forced to do critical analyses of things like A Raisin in the Sun in school, who wants to go see it live? Not me, not anyone else who had to do that. But that's what they insist upon producing at the establishments. It takes a special kind of literary enthusiast to want to see that. The financial benefactors give them money to present a play they want, and those benefactors are usually not the common man with simpler, baser tastes in entertainment. You may have noticed that the much-publicized Spiderman play is so successful... it's relevant to their culture and tastes.
I really would like to see these points addressed somehow, but I really can't imagine how it would be done in a financially successful manner. Well, you know actors and playwrights never historically lived in opulence, so I guess it's finally been refined down to asking "will we make enough money if we run this show".
I hear they're taking them all to Isengard. Hope this helps.
That is a fantastic reply. If I wasn't the person you were replying to, you would get a mod point.
People have differing tastes in entertainment. Yours is quite valid and would be quite difficult or in some cases impossible to replicate onstage.
I enjoy both worlds, the two being live plays and filmed productions. They are two very different forms of the art of storytelling as other posters have noted. Recently, I enjoyed a production of Shakespeare's Richard III. (And then wound up watching the related movie Anonymous a few weeks later.) Everything was quite well directed and the acting was great. However the play was slower paced and at a much lower overall sound level than a movie would be, so I had to stay focused on the play to avoid being pulled out of it by various environmental disturbances. You have to suspend not only disbelief (perhaps a better term could be found for this) but also your comprehension of the space around you. You have to deal with imperfect audio and other production glitches, reuse a very few sparse set pieces to spark your imagination, sit in uncomfortable seating, and probably wind up being aware of the acoustically "live" space around you that allows you to perceive your fellow patrons and vice-versa much more so than in a movie theater. For some people, that is very much unenjoyable. It really boils down to the fact that I like to see actors working live sometimes.
Do you find that the temporal resolution of the video really makes much of a difference in your enjoyment, as a large proportion of commenters seem to indicate?
from what I've read about 48fps, that's exactly the problem people ran into. people said things like "my brain was not processing what I was seeing as 'two hobbits walking up a hill' but rather 'two actors in hobbit costumes walking up a hill'". They were having difficulty suspending disbelief.
They must have a REALLY hard time with live theatre.
The world doesn't need to wait for Apple. The problem is more immediate: NFC is already out there.
The Samsung Galaxy S III had 9 million preorders and almost all of those have shipped by now. So there are 9 million NFC-enabled devices out there.
Granted, it's off by default and easy to turn off.
The only serious choice for a vacuum OS.
That's some fancy Jason Bourne stuff you're talking about. Ever thought about writing? Sure, you can't prevent people from posting pictures, since every grunt's wife wants pictures of her man in uniform. But that's a concern at all military installations. There are protocols for these things and all communications are generally reviewed from really sensitive areas or people who have made mistakes. They should build a nondescript room for accessing the 'net so people can take webcam pictures without worrying about that.
I was thinking of the other end with my post. Some foreign gov't could set up a false VPN company, or put a Secret Closet into an existing VPN provider's facility, and have some people post glowing recommendations for it here. Or at any rate, they would know where the VPN endpoint is, with company name and/or location, which is very valuable intelligence. Since the asker is looking for what I assume is a set of the most popular opinions, it's a pretty ripe opportunity.
Why, it even sounds like something US intelligence would do! For example, https://www.eff.org/cases/hepting . Don't put anything past other people if we're doing it too.
You realize that some of the people reading Slashdot around the world are going to have a vested interest in getting a back door into your affairs, right?
This would be an excellent trap to catch foreign agents.
Well, it celebrates new releases of Opa.
That's about all I can figure out right now.
Double-click the tab header OR in 2010 click the chevron at the right to hide the ribbon, so it looks menu-like. Then you can hover over the tab and the ribbon will un-hide while your mouse is over it. Problem solved!
You've got a point, it would make a good game for the under-13 audience. I guess I was expecting it to be more of a challenging game that adults could enjoy too, since I have always enjoyed Kirby games.
Regarding HDTV, that's interesting and possibly true. I still have an older CRT HDTV, and it looks wonderful on there. CRTs looked good at different resolutions, which is something LCD panels just don't do well. I could see that argument. It's disappointing that such an expensive HD panel would upscale incoming SD content so poorly.
Geometry Wars was one of the first killer apps for the XBOX. The Wii version is my favorite version - it's a real must-experience, IMO.
I play a whole bunch of online games on my PC, which has a keyboard, which is mandatory IMO for online games. So I have that already, I just wanted something to add to that and the Wii fit the bill very well. I also don't NEED a game to be online-enabled to enjoy it. (Thank you, Diablo III.) Some games are good single player experiences. There is nothing wrong with enjoying all different kinds of games, surely other gamers would agree. I don't get the singleplayer vs. online arguments that pretend there are no other options... there is another option: local multiplayer. When I play multiplayer, I prefer it if my friends are actually in the room, which does happen regularly. Who doesn't remember getting friends together for something like Goldeneye or Smash?
Some of us couldn't afford the old-school games when they were new. So it's been nice to finally be able to play those classics. So many games, so little time, though.
Yeah, there are other games on other systems that are fun. That's not the point. The point is that some games on THIS system are good and lots of fun, and this system fills a niche very well. I'm going to keep having fun, regardless of whether it gets anyone's bile up.
Er.... I have other things to do than continue to list games? There are quite a few other system-exclusive titles that were good. And it would be easy to make a list for any system, but this one was in scope at the moment.
Sorry to disappoint. Carry on... you might want to change your sig though, it doesn't match the things you post.
Some people apparently only want a system if it has HD graphics. Because, you know, all that crapware and those old-school emulated games look so much better in HD. And BRB, no-scoping some noobs that said they slept with my mother.
Please. I want fun games. How about these:
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess was amazing. The sound of arrows going from your controller to the screen... genius.
Warioware was great for springing on your unsuspecting friends.
Mario Galaxy was a head trip every time gravity wasn't straight down.
Geometry Wars with point-at-the-screen action... zen.
Super Smash Brothers Brawl: Best in series IMO.
Emulating a zillion classic console games flawlessly? Check. That classic controller.
New Super Mario Bros. Wii, the friendship killer. Good times. For me.
Let's just conveniently forget about Wii Music, the Kirby yarn game, Chocobo Dungeon, and the horribly botched Monkey Ball game... yikes, that game played like it had absolutely no QA.
I know. Kin you believe it? It's almost as bad as trying to read the Web on your TV... that's for Watch-ing video, not reading text in Courier or whatever other ugly font. Yessiree Bob. They sure do make a lot of mistakes. But I guess I'll get off my Soapbox Zuner or later.
The gradual migration from workers to lawmakers and the subsequent legislation of their greed has left us in a terrible state... Whatever happened to doing a job because you knew it needed to be done???
That sounds like the sort of thing you'd forward along to the town hall. The utilities might not care about you, but they do care about upsetting the government.
Google surely wouldn't create a Buzz in the marketplace unless they were sure their product would be the Wave of the future, would they? ;)
Some of us are in fact non-Plussed by their entirely-too-sanitary products...
We're in the same ballpark. Yeah... I know what you're talking about with the metal guitar. I've done that and recorded that and am somewhat of an electric guitar enthusiast. Most metal guitar players have really crappy setups or really good setups that they've made crappy (mostly with distortion pedals, especially those who run directly out of that into a PA) and have played themselves half deaf. I haven't seen a guitar amp that could output much at that frequency - they usually have full-range speakers that produce lots of bass and midrange, with enough highs to get in the neighborhood of 10 KHz. Even the super expensive ones. It's always some really horrendously scooped EQ, but darn if they love that chugga-chugga-weeee sound. Sounds like your favorite bands need a new sound crew. Earplugs are worth a $1/pair to save your hearing and too many guitarists ignore that.
You know, if it's really painful though, maybe you should look into a hearing exam. Hypersensitivity to high pitches could be a sign of developing tinnitus or something else. It couldn't hurt to ask a professional if you haven't already.
I can hear the difference, but I have been a studio sound engineer in the past, and built an audio system that can reproduce it. I don't think most people have that combination. In fact, most people don't have speakers that can produce tones that span the common human's range of hearing of 20 Hz - 20 KHz, and don't know what that even sounds like. Some people can't hear the higher frequencies in that range, either, and sensitivity to the highs tend to drop off with age for some percentage of people. For some reason, I haven't had that happen yet, although by all accounts it should have.
It's a lot better to mix at high sample rates, since you can keep a higher amount of detail around for your mixing, effects and mastering software to work with, which means you have better a quality master file before you downsample. You do eventually downsample to CD quality after you're done mastering.
Hmm, interesting! I wonder what the gain is, if we're trading in leisure time for something else.
You know what? In some parts of the world, that's how it is.
You don't have to buy the eggs the same day. You also don't make only one day's worth of noodles at a time. That's really inefficient. No, you take some time, and prepare enough for a good number of meals. Then those noodles are ready to go whenever you are ready to make a meal for at least a few days or weeks. You don't let things get to the point where you don't have any food until you make more ingredients when you live like that.
Check it out, people lived like that for millennia. This whole idea of kicking back and relaxing after a hard day's work seems to be a modern invention. There used to be a reason to have a family and stick together - spreading out the labor.
Windows' mess has everything to do with backwards compatibility. If they could break that without angering their 90% market share, they'd go nuts. Go ahead and browse through something like http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing and check out all the horrible duct tape and shims that are in place to preserve old apps.
Technically OS/X IS for PCs. The hardware is the same. Intel x86 processors, same as any Windows desktop. Same onboard audio hardware, same video cards, same everything. The difference is the standard driver quality being much better (since there are comparatively few to maintain) and the backwards compatibility isn't there. You can dual, triple, whatever boot it with other OSes.
I really don't understand the hype. Neither option is particularly special.
It's a continual game of leapfrog. We'll see someone like Pirate Pay write autonomous swarms of bots to vote their own hosts up, which will make votes meaningless. How do you establish trust in a sea of anonymous hosts?
I don't get enough sleep during the week, so I drink a lot of sugary, caffeinated beverages at times to keep me awake at my desk job. That's not healthy, I know. However, I also take decently good multivitamins, cut out caffeine and switch to water by mid-afternoon, work out regularly following a personal trainer's advice, and tend to eat intelligently at mealtimes. I don't eat chips, popcorn, candy, cookies, or whatever else during the day.
This is what works for me, and I'm quite fit by any account. Right in the middle of the recommended weight chart for my height, actually, after a lot of long years in this business. So I would recommend giving it a try to anyone who's struggling with their own routine. Once you get into a habit, it's a lot easier to keep it going.