You know, yes, you can come up with problems, but the existing system has totally failed due to robocalls spoofing phone numbers.
Pretty much all my friends now tell me that they never answer their phone unless the calling number is on their contacts list, simply because the number of fake calls so outnumbers the real calls that it's worth the fact that sometimes you miss calls from somebody who actually does need to get hold of you.
(but... I did manage to keep the Microsoft repair guy, who cold called me at about 2:30 today, on the phone for 17 minutes. I think that's a record for me.)
It's not that difficult for me. I have a Wisconsin area code but live in Texas. I don't know anyone in Wisconsin anymore so any Wisconsin area code calling me might as well be screaming "I am definitely a robocall!"
I've always wondered why no one has ever successfully tested a hybrid turbine-electric system for large trucks. It would seem as if the ability to burn almost anything would future-proof the system, and since the turbine would charge the batteries, you could run it at a constant speed.
I am a turbine engineer. Small gas turbines are very inefficient. 1/2 the efficiency, or less, than a medium or large one.
And the noise. Small turbines are screamers and it is difficult to insulate the sound because the intake and exhaust can only have so much muffling on them. Pedestrians would be above OSHA short term limits for noise exposure. Nobody near a busy road would stand for it.
But, then, if you're selling such a common commodity item that Amazon is undercutting you with their own generic version, maybe you should be selling something else.
Not just undercutting with price, but actually delivering a reasonable expectation of quality. Fake reviews are overwhelming in certain products, like phone charging cables. From the linked article:
I simply typed in “iPhone Charger” to Amazon. Out of the 22 results on the first page, here’s the breakdown:
10 products with hundreds or thousands of fake reviews.
6 sponsored listings
3 products with low or no rating and possibly thousands of deleted reviews
2 Amazon-brand products
1 possible genuine product (but also reportedly a counterfeit)
For stuff like this, if you've been burned once or twice you're going to go straight for the AmazonBasics product. A cynical person might even wonder if Amazon allows the fake review garbage just to make their own stuff look better.
My yard won't take a professional more the 30 minutes to do, and the cheapest I could find was 130 a week.
House keeping? 175 for 2 hours.
Are those independent contractors? Those prices are ridiculously high. Nextdoor or your neighbors probably can recommend someone a little more reasonable.
I found the Google estimate site and used the highest RAM servers available. 25 servers at 24/7 comes to over $277,000 if paid by a customer. Estimate variables below.
That's over $1.1 million USD for the 4 month period.
I'd call this exercise a massive waste of electricity. How much coal was used in this exercise? How many tons of CO2 did this add to the environment?
Estimate Details:
25 x Calculating Pi.
18,250 total hours per month
VM class: regular
Instance type: n1-ultramem-160 (160 CPUs, 3844GB RAM)
Region: Iowa
Total available local SSD space 8x375 GB (3,000GB per server)
Commitment term: 1 Year
Estimated Component Cost: USD 277,868.11 per 1 month
That's far beyond what the record page shows. It appears the record was broken with a single dual-socket Xeon machine. Which is in line with how the previous record (a single 4-socket Xeon machine using older processors) was broken.
Or how much would it have cost someone who doesn't work at Google.
25 servers, 121 days, 170 terabytes of data.
And then the real question, was it really WORTH it?
25 virtual machines (they say). The record page shows that the hardware was a single dual-socket Xeon machine. That screengrab doesn't show anything about virtual machines, and it is unclear to me that you would need such an arrangement since the software is fully multi-threaded.
It isn't really anything earthshattering, Peter Trueb used a 4-socket Xeon system with E7-8890 v3's to get the previous record. Emma took 16 more days (15% more) than Peter to do the calculation, and I assume the processors were 2 years newer. Based on that, I don't believe it would require anything radical to get ~50% more digits.
Even if ARM cores are powerful engines, the I/O and operating system wrapped around them in virtually all such ARM CPUs and SOCs make them unfriendly to serious productive computing.
Fortunately, Apply abandoned the serious productive computing market years ago.
I have a G5S+ which I bought after the G6 came out. The newer G6 models didn't have much to offer except for the new USB port so I bought used. The G7 Plus, like the G6 Plus before it, isn't offered in the US for whatever reason. You can't sell premium products if you don't try. Which is all too bad, since the G5/G5S/G5S+ are pretty awesome phones for the price.
Most criminals aren't geniuses. Especially the ones that get caught. Someone with bomb-making skills may or may not have advanced computer skills. A large majority of people don't know that MAC addresses even exist, let alone know what they are, or that they can be changed.
Actually a study in 2015 correlated the decline of milkweed due to use of pesticides across the states. Milkweed is the only food source for the caterpillars of these butterflies. By the time of the study the population has already dropped 90 percent in 20 years and the species was considered to be put on the list of endangered animals. What this has to do with trump, I have no idea.
I planted some milkweed in our garden. It isn't a particularly attractive plant but it does attract monarch butterflies, which are very cool to have around. I don't think knowledge of monarchs loving milkweed is common enough, I had never heard of this until I was 32 years old.
What (Obama's) EPA analysia found was $10 billion a year in costs would have $20 million / year in benefits, including "human suffering". (You see why they didn't want to release their analysis).
What I found interesting in TFA was the benefit analysis. The EPA estimates the actual harm caused by the actual mercury to be about $20 million. There's an additional benefit from reducing soot and other pollutants which aren't mercury of billions of dollars more.
What I find absolutely infuriating is that the EPA and other administration people would deliberately mislead people by claiming the issue is mercury! I don't believe that was an accident. I am certain the whole point of the mercury restrictions was not mercury, it was other pollutants. So for crying out loud, be honest about it. Mercury is an easy "Eeek! Scary neurotoxin heavy metals!" sales pitch but it's dishonest.
If you want to reduce soot or carbon dioxide or something else, just say so. Don't distract us with side issues because they're scarier. If you can't make your case on honest facts, perhaps you don't have a case.
I'm proud that this came out in the Slashdot discussion, rather than being drowned out by a deafening echo chamber. Both parties have attempted to abuse and pervert the EPA to their liking.
Its possible because Amazon and others have convinced people its a great idea to have hot mic; under third party control in their homes.
That's not even what I'm talking about. Why is it even possible for an Amazon employee to make these voice files available to other users through the interfaces available to them? It's understandable why the data is there, but not understandable why someone can make the files available to another user with a click. Even if it's done with a backdoored system, those files ought to be encrypted to the user.
This happened before, again to a single customer. My understanding of that incident was that the two devices had the same hardcoded device ID. This could potentially happen if the device IDs are assigned in sequence, and one run started with same number of the previous run.
Ever ridden a subway at rush-hour? One person holds up a train, the entire system stumbles for 45 seconds - and now you have twice the people at a platform because they missed their connection. And it cascades from there, as people try to push on to the next train, delaying it. Not to mention that Musk's tunnel has cars coming in and out of the system...
That sounds like a scheduling problem to me. I can assure you that people hold up the doors on the Japanese rail and subway lines, sometimes for 20-30 seconds, and yet the trains always run on time. If you aren't incorporating predictable human nature into your train schedule, you're doing it wrong.
They should maybe ignore the headlines and simply follow the money. Because one question looms over them right now: What is tumbl still useful for now?
Your family pics? There's better organized pages available for that, where you can pretty much create virtual photo albums and share them with exactly who you want to share them with.
Your average "Gee, look at this shit" pics? Snapchat.
Seriously, what is tumblr good for now?
Tumbler is fairly decent at finding and recommending other subs that you may be interested in. The format (endless scrolling) is better than many other sites that have "galleries" that you must click through. That's why it was useful for porn.
Snapchat isn't that kind of service at all. The closest competitor in the SFW market may be Imgur, which (from a quick cursory look) doesn't seem to have a "if you like user X, try user Y's feed" function. Possibly Instagram, but I'm not familiar with them and I don't care to open an account just to look.
One in every 10 American adults lost money from a phone scam, according to a yearly report the firm published in April this year.
I find that figure amazingly high. If I'd guessed I would have thought only 1 in 50 would take the call seriously, and only 1 in 1000 hand over money. , With that figure I'm surprised the calls are not continuous. Are they sure of their data?
Could be true. There's been a few junk mailings in my neighborhood posing as the gas company, selling insurance on the 50ft of pipe from the curb to the house, and the interior gas lines. Total garbage, borderline scam if it isn't an actual scam. There was a Nextdoor thread yesterday on my local neighborhood where several people admitted to paying it. My neighborhood has a higher % of old people than most, but it isn't a retirement community.
I think I am getting old, This seems like the Statement a company makes shortly before its collapse. Mostly due to not understanding its customer and their needs.
This is the 3rd "Don't leave us for Amazon! Bad things will happen!" from Oracle in the past couple months.
Badmouthing the competition often has the opposite effect as intended.
Clinton had one _projected_ balanced budget (if you included SS accounting tricks), but it never happened. Dotcom imploded and the Clinton recession ended the hope, no balanced actual year.
Those who are not lazy probably realize there is no real value in it. It will not raise the value of your home, will need to be updated regularly. You would be better off getting nice floors and a fire stove.
The networked home automation lights are useless, I agree. What a lot of people are forgetting, though, is plain old standalone motion sensor switches and timers.
We have motion sensor lights with variable timers depending on the location (closets 1min, dining room 20min). I'm lucky that my switch boxes are in good locations for this. My house is huge and walking over to the switch was driving me crazy. The switches I have bought are very sensitive in detecting people, and the dimmer models don't make an audible sound. They are 100% secure, don't need a central controller, and if one dies, I can replace it with another model from another manufacturer if I want.
I'm also a fan of the fancier timer switches. I have one that calculates sunrise/sunset based on user-settable latitude, can switch at preset times or at an offset from sunset/sunrise, calculates daylight savings time, and has capacitor backup for power outages. It has performed flawlessly and covers many use cases that people use home automation for.
I do think the non-networked devices increase my home value. They're infrastructure. They perform simple functions which won't become obsolete. And they are easy to understand by people shopping for houses.
So, they used the trade stuff as an excuse to shutter plants to focus on gas guzzling SUVs, which means come the next gas crunch, they will be back in Congress begging for another cash infusion, when the public is buying plug in hybrids or all electric cars from Toyota.
Both of those companies would be on the ropes no matter who is POTUS.
Their official company line is that they are going to take the savings of shuttered plants and invest in electric and other advanced vehicles. Other people have said that they are preparing for the next recession.
I'm sure they will enjoy the profits of SUVs and trucks but small cars are neither profitable or in demand. The few small cars I see on the road are usually older and in disrepair. It's not unreasonable to think that the low-budget market will become more and more used larger vehicles rather than new small cars. Making cars that are barely profitable and not in great demand is not a winning business strategy. GM's decision appears to be a smart one. Time will tell.
What really gets me, was around 2004-2006 Ford, Chrysler and GM cut development in their smaller car lines, and went into Trucks and SUV's. Then Gas Prices Skyrocketed and a Recession hit. So companies like Toyota and Honda were doing much better because they had small fuel efficient cars ready in their pipeline. It took years for the big 3 to get a good car lineup. However once again Americans want the big ones again. So they are not making small cars.
Do you mean to say that by shifting away from small cars, they are setting themselves up for problems later? My opinion is that oil prices will remain "low" for at least the next 3 years. The oil industry is in a steady "boom" time, oil prices don't usually go up dramatically until halfway through the "bust". And fuel economy of large vehicles is much better than it used to be. My 1/2 ton truck gets 19MPG, which is bad compared to a car but is much better than the 13MPG that the same truck got in 2008.
This is what happens when you put a billionaire in the White House. He has no idea that 10% is a huge amount for many people (let alone 25%!).
Next time, guys, put a poor person, or even a homeless person, in there. Someone who has some concept of the value of $1.
The average low-income person doesn't need a new iphone or a new laptop. I can easily afford such things, but I am thrifty and only buy used. You can get a smartphone for $100 (or 0 if you take a contract subsidy) and a 10 year old laptop is perfectly usable. You can get a used 40" LCD TV for practically nothing. A tax / tariff on new electronic goods is a tax on "wants", not "needs".
You could argue that new tax/tariff would push up the price of used goods, but the cost of electronics is still largely going down faster than inflation is going up.
Slashdot Mirror
You know, yes, you can come up with problems, but the existing system has totally failed due to robocalls spoofing phone numbers.
Pretty much all my friends now tell me that they never answer their phone unless the calling number is on their contacts list, simply because the number of fake calls so outnumbers the real calls that it's worth the fact that sometimes you miss calls from somebody who actually does need to get hold of you.
(but... I did manage to keep the Microsoft repair guy, who cold called me at about 2:30 today, on the phone for 17 minutes. I think that's a record for me.)
It's not that difficult for me. I have a Wisconsin area code but live in Texas. I don't know anyone in Wisconsin anymore so any Wisconsin area code calling me might as well be screaming "I am definitely a robocall!"
I've always wondered why no one has ever successfully tested a hybrid turbine-electric system for large trucks. It would seem as if the ability to burn almost anything would future-proof the system, and since the turbine would charge the batteries, you could run it at a constant speed.
I am a turbine engineer. Small gas turbines are very inefficient. 1/2 the efficiency, or less, than a medium or large one.
And the noise. Small turbines are screamers and it is difficult to insulate the sound because the intake and exhaust can only have so much muffling on them. Pedestrians would be above OSHA short term limits for noise exposure. Nobody near a busy road would stand for it.
But, then, if you're selling such a common commodity item that Amazon is undercutting you with their own generic version, maybe you should be selling something else.
Not just undercutting with price, but actually delivering a reasonable expectation of quality. Fake reviews are overwhelming in certain products, like phone charging cables. From the linked article:
I simply typed in “iPhone Charger” to Amazon. Out of the 22 results on the first page, here’s the breakdown:
10 products with hundreds or thousands of fake reviews.
6 sponsored listings
3 products with low or no rating and possibly thousands of deleted reviews
2 Amazon-brand products
1 possible genuine product (but also reportedly a counterfeit)
For stuff like this, if you've been burned once or twice you're going to go straight for the AmazonBasics product. A cynical person might even wonder if Amazon allows the fake review garbage just to make their own stuff look better.
30 an hour? I'd love to get those prices.
My yard won't take a professional more the 30 minutes to do, and the cheapest I could find was 130 a week.
House keeping? 175 for 2 hours.
Are those independent contractors? Those prices are ridiculously high. Nextdoor or your neighbors probably can recommend someone a little more reasonable.
WTF is a "Pewdepie"?
Everything I have learned about Pewdepie has been against my will. Consider yourself lucky.
I found the Google estimate site and used the highest RAM servers available. 25 servers at 24/7 comes to over $277,000 if paid by a customer. Estimate variables below.
That's over $1.1 million USD for the 4 month period.
I'd call this exercise a massive waste of electricity. How much coal was used in this exercise? How many tons of CO2 did this add to the environment?
Site: https://cloud.google.com/produ...
Estimate Details: 25 x Calculating Pi. 18,250 total hours per month VM class: regular Instance type: n1-ultramem-160 (160 CPUs, 3844GB RAM) Region: Iowa Total available local SSD space 8x375 GB (3,000GB per server) Commitment term: 1 Year Estimated Component Cost: USD 277,868.11 per 1 month
That's far beyond what the record page shows. It appears the record was broken with a single dual-socket Xeon machine. Which is in line with how the previous record (a single 4-socket Xeon machine using older processors) was broken.
In terms of electricity.
Or how much would it have cost someone who doesn't work at Google.
25 servers, 121 days, 170 terabytes of data.
And then the real question, was it really WORTH it?
25 virtual machines (they say). The record page shows that the hardware was a single dual-socket Xeon machine. That screengrab doesn't show anything about virtual machines, and it is unclear to me that you would need such an arrangement since the software is fully multi-threaded.
It isn't really anything earthshattering, Peter Trueb used a 4-socket Xeon system with E7-8890 v3's to get the previous record. Emma took 16 more days (15% more) than Peter to do the calculation, and I assume the processors were 2 years newer. Based on that, I don't believe it would require anything radical to get ~50% more digits.
Even if ARM cores are powerful engines, the I/O and operating system wrapped around them in virtually all such ARM CPUs and SOCs make them unfriendly to serious productive computing.
Fortunately, Apply abandoned the serious productive computing market years ago.
I have a G5S+ which I bought after the G6 came out. The newer G6 models didn't have much to offer except for the new USB port so I bought used. The G7 Plus, like the G6 Plus before it, isn't offered in the US for whatever reason. You can't sell premium products if you don't try. Which is all too bad, since the G5/G5S/G5S+ are pretty awesome phones for the price.
Cities in California are already *really* strict with water,
Some of them, maybe. The last time I stayed in the imperial valley the farms were wasting it left and right. Right in the middle of a dustbowl.
Most criminals aren't geniuses. Especially the ones that get caught. Someone with bomb-making skills may or may not have advanced computer skills. A large majority of people don't know that MAC addresses even exist, let alone know what they are, or that they can be changed.
Also, in the past, Coke was sold for a nickel. How dare they sell it for more today!
Not a great example. Coke held the price at 5 cents for 70 years.
The very first class you take in Economics in school will explain, very simply, that increasing the price will reduce demand.
Not in all cases. Luxury goods for the highest priced brands are an example of this. Especially in middle east countries.
Actually a study in 2015 correlated the decline of milkweed due to use of pesticides across the states. Milkweed is the only food source for the caterpillars of these butterflies. By the time of the study the population has already dropped 90 percent in 20 years and the species was considered to be put on the list of endangered animals. What this has to do with trump, I have no idea.
I planted some milkweed in our garden. It isn't a particularly attractive plant but it does attract monarch butterflies, which are very cool to have around. I don't think knowledge of monarchs loving milkweed is common enough, I had never heard of this until I was 32 years old.
What (Obama's) EPA analysia found was $10 billion a year in costs would have $20 million / year in benefits, including "human suffering". (You see why they didn't want to release their analysis).
What I found interesting in TFA was the benefit analysis. The EPA estimates the actual harm caused by the actual mercury to be about $20 million. There's an additional benefit from reducing soot and other pollutants which aren't mercury of billions of dollars more.
What I find absolutely infuriating is that the EPA and other administration people would deliberately mislead people by claiming the issue is mercury! I don't believe that was an accident. I am certain the whole point of the mercury restrictions was not mercury, it was other pollutants. So for crying out loud, be honest about it. Mercury is an easy "Eeek! Scary neurotoxin heavy metals!" sales pitch but it's dishonest.
If you want to reduce soot or carbon dioxide or something else, just say so. Don't distract us with side issues because they're scarier. If you can't make your case on honest facts, perhaps you don't have a case.
I'm proud that this came out in the Slashdot discussion, rather than being drowned out by a deafening echo chamber. Both parties have attempted to abuse and pervert the EPA to their liking.
Its possible because Amazon and others have convinced people its a great idea to have hot mic; under third party control in their homes.
That's not even what I'm talking about. Why is it even possible for an Amazon employee to make these voice files available to other users through the interfaces available to them? It's understandable why the data is there, but not understandable why someone can make the files available to another user with a click. Even if it's done with a backdoored system, those files ought to be encrypted to the user.
This happened before, again to a single customer. My understanding of that incident was that the two devices had the same hardcoded device ID. This could potentially happen if the device IDs are assigned in sequence, and one run started with same number of the previous run.
Ever ridden a subway at rush-hour? One person holds up a train, the entire system stumbles for 45 seconds - and now you have twice the people at a platform because they missed their connection. And it cascades from there, as people try to push on to the next train, delaying it. Not to mention that Musk's tunnel has cars coming in and out of the system...
That sounds like a scheduling problem to me. I can assure you that people hold up the doors on the Japanese rail and subway lines, sometimes for 20-30 seconds, and yet the trains always run on time. If you aren't incorporating predictable human nature into your train schedule, you're doing it wrong.
They should maybe ignore the headlines and simply follow the money. Because one question looms over them right now: What is tumbl still useful for now?
Your family pics? There's better organized pages available for that, where you can pretty much create virtual photo albums and share them with exactly who you want to share them with. Your average "Gee, look at this shit" pics? Snapchat.
Seriously, what is tumblr good for now?
Tumbler is fairly decent at finding and recommending other subs that you may be interested in. The format (endless scrolling) is better than many other sites that have "galleries" that you must click through. That's why it was useful for porn.
Snapchat isn't that kind of service at all. The closest competitor in the SFW market may be Imgur, which (from a quick cursory look) doesn't seem to have a "if you like user X, try user Y's feed" function. Possibly Instagram, but I'm not familiar with them and I don't care to open an account just to look.
One in every 10 American adults lost money from a phone scam, according to a yearly report the firm published in April this year.
I find that figure amazingly high. If I'd guessed I would have thought only 1 in 50 would take the call seriously, and only 1 in 1000 hand over money. , With that figure I'm surprised the calls are not continuous. Are they sure of their data?
Could be true. There's been a few junk mailings in my neighborhood posing as the gas company, selling insurance on the 50ft of pipe from the curb to the house, and the interior gas lines. Total garbage, borderline scam if it isn't an actual scam. There was a Nextdoor thread yesterday on my local neighborhood where several people admitted to paying it. My neighborhood has a higher % of old people than most, but it isn't a retirement community.
I think I am getting old, This seems like the Statement a company makes shortly before its collapse. Mostly due to not understanding its customer and their needs.
This is the 3rd "Don't leave us for Amazon! Bad things will happen!" from Oracle in the past couple months.
Badmouthing the competition often has the opposite effect as intended.
Clinton had one _projected_ balanced budget (if you included SS accounting tricks), but it never happened. Dotcom imploded and the Clinton recession ended the hope, no balanced actual year.
The rest of your post is just idiotic.
What's up with this this graph and this graph, both from The United States federal budget wikipedia article then? Cooked books? Accounting shenanigans? Flat out lying? They fairly clearly show surpluses.
Those who are not lazy probably realize there is no real value in it. It will not raise the value of your home, will need to be updated regularly. You would be better off getting nice floors and a fire stove.
The networked home automation lights are useless, I agree. What a lot of people are forgetting, though, is plain old standalone motion sensor switches and timers.
We have motion sensor lights with variable timers depending on the location (closets 1min, dining room 20min). I'm lucky that my switch boxes are in good locations for this. My house is huge and walking over to the switch was driving me crazy. The switches I have bought are very sensitive in detecting people, and the dimmer models don't make an audible sound. They are 100% secure, don't need a central controller, and if one dies, I can replace it with another model from another manufacturer if I want.
I'm also a fan of the fancier timer switches. I have one that calculates sunrise/sunset based on user-settable latitude, can switch at preset times or at an offset from sunset/sunrise, calculates daylight savings time, and has capacitor backup for power outages. It has performed flawlessly and covers many use cases that people use home automation for.
I do think the non-networked devices increase my home value. They're infrastructure. They perform simple functions which won't become obsolete. And they are easy to understand by people shopping for houses.
So, they used the trade stuff as an excuse to shutter plants to focus on gas guzzling SUVs, which means come the next gas crunch, they will be back in Congress begging for another cash infusion, when the public is buying plug in hybrids or all electric cars from Toyota.
Both of those companies would be on the ropes no matter who is POTUS.
Their official company line is that they are going to take the savings of shuttered plants and invest in electric and other advanced vehicles. Other people have said that they are preparing for the next recession.
I'm sure they will enjoy the profits of SUVs and trucks but small cars are neither profitable or in demand. The few small cars I see on the road are usually older and in disrepair. It's not unreasonable to think that the low-budget market will become more and more used larger vehicles rather than new small cars. Making cars that are barely profitable and not in great demand is not a winning business strategy. GM's decision appears to be a smart one. Time will tell.
What really gets me, was around 2004-2006 Ford, Chrysler and GM cut development in their smaller car lines, and went into Trucks and SUV's. Then Gas Prices Skyrocketed and a Recession hit. So companies like Toyota and Honda were doing much better because they had small fuel efficient cars ready in their pipeline. It took years for the big 3 to get a good car lineup. However once again Americans want the big ones again. So they are not making small cars.
Do you mean to say that by shifting away from small cars, they are setting themselves up for problems later? My opinion is that oil prices will remain "low" for at least the next 3 years. The oil industry is in a steady "boom" time, oil prices don't usually go up dramatically until halfway through the "bust". And fuel economy of large vehicles is much better than it used to be. My 1/2 ton truck gets 19MPG, which is bad compared to a car but is much better than the 13MPG that the same truck got in 2008.
This is what happens when you put a billionaire in the White House. He has no idea that 10% is a huge amount for many people (let alone 25%!).
Next time, guys, put a poor person, or even a homeless person, in there. Someone who has some concept of the value of $1.
The average low-income person doesn't need a new iphone or a new laptop. I can easily afford such things, but I am thrifty and only buy used. You can get a smartphone for $100 (or 0 if you take a contract subsidy) and a 10 year old laptop is perfectly usable. You can get a used 40" LCD TV for practically nothing. A tax / tariff on new electronic goods is a tax on "wants", not "needs".
You could argue that new tax/tariff would push up the price of used goods, but the cost of electronics is still largely going down faster than inflation is going up.