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Amazon Error Allowed Alexa User To Eavesdrop on Another Home (reuters.com)

A user of Amazon's Alexa voice assistant in Germany got access to more than a thousand recordings from another user because of "a human error" by the company. From a report: The customer had asked to listen back to recordings of his own activities made by Alexa but he was also able to access 1,700 audio files from a stranger when Amazon sent him a link, German trade publication c't reported. "This unfortunate case was the result of a human error and an isolated single case," an Amazon spokesman said on Thursday. The first customer had initially got no reply when he told Amazon about the access to the other recordings, the report said. The files were then deleted from the link provided by Amazon but he had already downloaded them on to his computer, added the report from c't, part of German tech publisher Heise.

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  1. Single case? by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "This unfortunate case was the result of a human error and an isolated single case," an Amazon spokesman said on Thursday.

    "Why is this even possible?", internet users said on Thursday.

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    1. Re:Single case? by DarkOx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Its possible because Amazon and others have convinced people its a great idea to have hot mic; under third party control in their homes.

      Its possible because people are stupid.

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    2. Re:Single case? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      A honest answer would probably be: "Well, you see, we actually wanted to send that link to one of our advertising partners..."

      Let's wait and see what cover story PR will spin.

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    3. Re: Single case? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alexa, talk dirty to me.
      Here are some celebrities talking dirty. I will turn up the volume for you.

    4. Re:Single case? by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Its possible because Amazon and others have convinced people its a great idea to have hot mic; under third party control in their homes.

      That's not even what I'm talking about. Why is it even possible for an Amazon employee to make these voice files available to other users through the interfaces available to them? It's understandable why the data is there, but not understandable why someone can make the files available to another user with a click. Even if it's done with a backdoored system, those files ought to be encrypted to the user.

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    5. Re:Single case? by pr0t0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think a better interpretation of your question should be, why do they have and keep these recordings? The conversation should have gone like this:

      Customer: I'd like to listen to all of the recordings of my interactions with the Alexa device.

      Acceptable answers:
      Amazon: I'm sorry, we do not keep recordings of your interactions with our products.
      or
      Amazon: I'm sorry, all recordings are anonymized. We cannot access recordings by user, location, or time of recording because that information is not stored.

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    6. Re:Single case? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This isn't the only case we've heard of exactly this type of phenomenon. There's been another incident where exactly this happened, and yet another where someone could hear live conversations directly from someone else's Alexa device. Until people realize live mics in the home under someone else's control are a bad idea, which I'm not convinced will ever happen, we'll keep hearing about these sorts of incidents.

      One of my more paranoid friends is convinced in a few years you'll be ostracized if you don't have these devices implanted in every room because if you don't, you clearly are trying to hide something and shouldn't associate with the "normal, decent god fearing" humans that want to be sure they are safe and secure at all times. I used to think he was babbling bullishit, but the way we're going I'm not so sure.

    7. Re:Single case? by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      I knew you were asking how/why this can occur on a technical or process level. Clearly some bad engineering design choices from a security standpoint were made. My assumption would be 'requirements' around keeping the data useful and available for mining/analysis/sale now or in future resulted in a misfeature.

      The core issue though is no amount of engineering is going to make a fundamentally bad idea into a good product. Its not smart to let someone company have this kind of access to your personal life. The exception to that rule might be if you are paying them to look out for your interests and its thefore in their interest to do right be you so you keep paying them for that. Kinda like why you trust your Dentists to help you care for your teeth well. He makes money when you take his/her advice but if you are getting bad advice and the result is your are uncomfortable all the time you might go somehere else. Its in their interest to care for you well.

      Amazon does not make money looking up stuff on the web for you! They provide services to that smart mic/speaker for two reasons: 1) Maybe you will impulsively buy something else from them. 2) to gather marketing data they can resell or just use to manipulate you.

      Giving them the tools to do that isn't a good idea; you place feel good privacy "rules" and such on it all you want but the temptation to use it in ways you don't want will always be there and a real conscientious attitude toward your safety and well being never will be.

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    8. Re:Single case? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Why is it even possible

      Simple answer: GDPR.

      EU consumers can request personal data corporations store about them. That German guy did so and some Amazon rep gave him too much by accident.

      It didn't happen "with a click" though. He requested his data and a couple of months later Amazon sent a zip file with all that stuff.

      Full German article here: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Amazon-gibt-intime-Sprachdateien-preis-4254716.html

    9. Re:Single case? by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      That's not even what I'm talking about. Why is it even possible for an Amazon employee to make these voice files available to other users through the interfaces available to them?

      Because extracting those files it is a manual process so that employee has to be given access to all recordings from accounts that are entitled to a download of their extracted audio files through GDPR.

      To limit access to files for the requesting account the permission system would need to know to which accounts that employee needs to have access today. (and if you do that manually, errors might happen there)

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    10. Re:Single case? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Kinda like why you trust your Dentists to help you care for your teeth well. He makes money when you take his/her advice but if you are getting bad advice and the result is your are uncomfortable all the time you might go somehere else. Its in their interest to care for you well.

      Right. And that's why it's in Amazon's best interests to give your data more care than this. Incidents like these translate directly into reduced sales, because even people who don't really care about security of privacy get creeped out by them.

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    11. Re:Single case? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      One of my more paranoid friends is convinced in a few years you'll be ostracized if you don't have these devices implanted in every room because if you don't, you clearly are trying to hide something

      I don't think so, at least, not that fast. Enough normal people think they're a bad idea (it's not just nerds) that it will take more than a few years, if ever. Mind you, I can see it happening in China, or in hardcore theocracies, and I can see western nations turning into the latter of those (or hell, being owned by the former) but neither within just a few years. I've been wrong before, though.

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    12. Re:Single case? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 0

      GDPR. is a back door.

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    13. Re:Single case? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It records more than just your deliberate interactions with the device. Remember the story about the couple who had their private conversation accidentally sent to a third party? It may have been accidental, but it proves that the device can and does record more than just your deliberate interactions with it.

    14. Re:Single case? by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Incidents like these translate directly into reduced sales

      No they really don't. Security conscious types were never going to get an always on voice assistant. Its also not very likely to make anyone stop using amazon because honestly there isn't a replacement for Amazon.com (in terms of being one stop shopping for ANYTHING); certainly not for Prime. Its not going to make your company not choose AWS either.

      Look at facebook! How many privacy incidents have they had, how much negative press, and yet #DELETEfacebook went basically nowhere. Same is true all be it to lessor extent with Google, yet anything not iOS or Android remains an also ran, basically everyone still uses their search, and GMail remains near the top of the heap too.. These tech giants are not in the same class as your dentist.

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    15. Re:Single case? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I think a better interpretation of your question should be, why do they have and keep these recordings?

      A user who doesn't care if an always-listening device is in their house might well want access to recordings of everything they've ever said to it. Besides all the actual reasons, Amazon might also want to retain your voice samples for technical reasons; as a training corpus for future versions of their recognition engine, for example. But nobody wants their files to be able to be accidentally listened to by someone else...

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    16. Re:Single case? by Mascot · · Score: 2

      "Why is this even possible?", internet users said on Thursday.

      Didn't strike me as any great mystery. Amazon is too big and clunky to have gotten their GDPR ducks in a row and are manually handling requests that should be automated.

      The longer version: For whatever reason Amazon has not made accessing your Echo recordings something you can just do at will (I assume this to be the case, otherwise the request would make no sense, but I don't own an Echo so I don't really know). The user made a request for the recordings, which falls under personal information, thus the GDPR, thus giving Amazon no option but to respond. When complying with a request for personal information is a manual process, there's always a risk of human error. Voila. If some poor sod is stuck all day collating recordings and sending users links to them, at some point it is inevitable that something will go wrong.

    17. Re:Single case? by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      The recordings are stored so they can be used to train the AI driving Alexa.

    18. Re:Single case? by Kjella · · Score: 1

      One of my more paranoid friends is convinced in a few years you'll be ostracized if you don't have these devices implanted in every room because if you don't, you clearly are trying to hide something and shouldn't associate with the "normal, decent god fearing" humans that want to be sure they are safe and secure at all times. I used to think he was babbling bullishit, but the way we're going I'm not so sure.

      Nobody official cares if I turn off my cell phone and go "off the grid", nor will anyone care if you don't have any device listening. The primary goal is to establish who all the people you don't have to worry about because their lives are transparent. It doesn't matter if you can defeat facial recognition with a hoodie and sunglasses, they'll see 9 out of 10 going about their daily business, you can pay cash but they'll see 9 in 10 use plastic and so on. They want to know all the mundane things people do so they can concentrate their effort on the rest.

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    19. Re:Single case? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So by that logic, the act of ordering online makes possible the act of viewing what another person is buying.

      Sure what you said is technically true, but doesn't actually answer the question being asked, which is why are the things that can be accessed via Alexa apparently less protected than the things that require me to enter my password before Amazon will show it to me in a web browser?

    20. Re:Single case? by pr0t0 · · Score: 1

      Sure, but I'm guessing they do not need the users' account number, IP address, MAC address, or precise time of day to do that.

      Every attempt to anonymize that data should be made. Full stop.

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    21. Re:Single case? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those people can DIAF, fuckers like that are screwing things up for everybody else. And what happens when somebody who doesn't want to be wiretapped goes into one of these homes? In many states that constitutes an illegal recording and really, Amazon or whomever it is that made the device should be held liable for conspiracy for the related charges.

      The only way that things will ever change for the better is if somebody at these companies goes to pound them in the ass prison for breaking the law.

    22. Re:Single case? by dj245 · · Score: 1

      Its possible because Amazon and others have convinced people its a great idea to have hot mic; under third party control in their homes.

      That's not even what I'm talking about. Why is it even possible for an Amazon employee to make these voice files available to other users through the interfaces available to them? It's understandable why the data is there, but not understandable why someone can make the files available to another user with a click. Even if it's done with a backdoored system, those files ought to be encrypted to the user.

      This happened before, again to a single customer. My understanding of that incident was that the two devices had the same hardcoded device ID. This could potentially happen if the device IDs are assigned in sequence, and one run started with same number of the previous run.

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    23. Re:Single case? by gweihir · · Score: 1

      "Isolated single case" = "we screwed up massively, but we are not admitting it"

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    24. Re:Single case? by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Its possible because Amazon and others have convinced people its a great idea to have hot mic; under third party control in their homes.

      Its possible because people are stupid.

      Indeed. There are numerous indicators people are generally stupid, but this one is a true gem.

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    25. Re: Single case? by illiac_1962 · · Score: 1

      This was an "error?" This is like my neighbor's unencrypted VPN traffic getting routed to my email. Lot of on purpose shit has to happen for this to pan out.

    26. Re: Single case? by illiac_1962 · · Score: 1

      "Alexa, connect me with customer service." She reads me the definition of customer services from Wikipedia. Disconnected all my dots and threw them in my computer parts bin.

    27. Re:Single case? by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      Those who would give up a their essential privacy to purchase a little temporary convenience deserve neither privacy nor convenience.

      That's my misquote of the day.

    28. Re: Single case? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many have access to your files, nobody asked.

    29. Re: Single case? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you a hoodie looking a bit pale and nervous, better just bag you to be sure. It'll work itself out faster than you can blink!

      Which is why the monsters have a broad smile while they lie to your faces, byatches!

    30. Re:Single case? by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      The latter would be impossible. One of the features of Alexa is to learn your voice so that it can track your preferences, recent playlist, etc...

      I agree that recordings shouldn't be easily accessible by any Amazon employee - or any random person for that matter. There should be solid procedures when it comes to the recordings, say anything over a week or two old gets archived somewhere, beyond 6 months is deleted. In order to retrieve recordings requires verification of identity and two-person integrity on Amazon's part to confirm whatever goes outside their doors.

  2. Tell me... by Viol8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just how fucking beyond stupid do you have to be to willingly bug your own home with one of these devices? Or is just the ultimate expression of apathy when you can't even be bothered to use a touchscreen to find or do what you need? I think the passengers in the Wall-E film are a closer reality than anyone believed.

    1. Re:Tell me... by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      I have multiple of these devices. Great for looking up recipes.

    2. Re:Tell me... by bobbied · · Score: 1

      I have multiple of these devices. Great for looking up recipes.

      Right, when you are "cooking" meth eh? Good luck, they know who you are now. (sarc off)

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    3. Re:Tell me... by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Oh good. That means more customers!

    4. Re:Tell me... by RobinH · · Score: 1

      I agree, but explain to me how the microphone on your smartphone is any different. It's always listening, just say, "Hey Siri..." or "OK Google..."

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    5. Re:Tell me... by ZombieCatInABox · · Score: 2

      This is the result of entire generations of people never having known anything but life in a civilized world. They've never had to wake up to the sound of bombardement sirens in the middle of the night, they've never had strangers with governement badges bust down their door and take one of their loved ones away, never to be seen again. They've never had to call the police for an emergency, just to have police ask for bribes before they do anything, if they do anything, except maybe gang-rape their daughter in the next room.

      They naively and stupidly think that the only life they've ever known is the normal state of human society, while its true normal state is police state, tyranny, civil war, fear, suffering and bloodshed.

      When you ask them "How do you feel about the fact that the real-life equivalent of Lex Luthor is now your president, that he has the nuclear codes, and that you put him in the oval office, knowingly, and on purpose", their reply is either "meh" or "yeah, but it pisses off libruls, lol !"

      It's apathy alright. Apathy of someone who's never had to care. Until now.

    6. Re:Tell me... by SuseLover · · Score: 1

      Well, to be honest I guess we're ALL fucking beyond stupid for willingly bugging ourselves with a listening device in our pockets; our cell phones. They have the same capabilities as these.

      My current TV has no mic or camera, but my next TV I will likely have to keep off the network or physically remove the mic & camera in it. I don't even trust being able to disable it in software and there probably won't be any models without those "features".

    7. Re:Tell me... by rjdriver · · Score: 0

      Can't speak for Siri, but "OK Google" only works if you have the Google search bar open on the screen. Unfortunately, many phones come with it already planted on the home screen, and people leave it there thinking, "oh that's convenient.".

    8. Re:Tell me... by kencurry · · Score: 1

      You can disable siri. i know that Apple could be devious and be scarfing all your voice recordings anyway, but still. We live in a world where we have to cope with one of the "bigs." for me that big is still Apple.

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    9. Re:Tell me... by grumpy-cowboy · · Score: 1

      I disabled "Ok google" feature on my phone (ok.. you need to "trust" it's really turned-off). This is why my next will be a Librem 5 (https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/).

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    10. Re:Tell me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Big A! Big A, Big A, Big A!
      Cast in the name of Jobs, ye not guilty.

    11. Re:Tell me... by Ceseuron · · Score: 1

      Not too long ago, if the feds were caught installing bugs in people's homes en masse, people would be howling about Constitutional violations of privacy and demanding action be taken to punish the perpetrators. These days, however, the feds don't even have to worry about bugging homes because idiots everywhere are actually paying money to do it themselves. All the feds have to do to get the data is get a warrant signed off by a secret judge in a secret court with zero oversight or transparency to force a company to hand over the data. It's an Orwellian wet dream for every three letter government agency. But I suppose the complete loss of privacy in your own home is a fair exchange for the ability to boss an electronic "assistant" around.

    12. Re:Tell me... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      explain to me how the microphone on your smartphone is any different. It's always listening, just say, "Hey Siri..." or "OK Google..."

      I've turned that off. Of course, I'm trusting that this is actually the case. But wait, I'm not that trusting. I'm happy to turn my phone off, put it in a box or whatever if I'm having a sensitive conversation. It's different from a device designed first and foremost to always listen.

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    13. Re: Tell me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lex Luthor was smart. And self made prior to Smallville.

    14. Re:Tell me... by LordKronos · · Score: 1

      I agree, but explain to me how the microphone on your smartphone is any different. It's always listening, just say, "Hey Siri..." or "OK Google..."

      I trust it because, 1) I've disabled it so that it doesn't respond to voice, only manual triggering (thus much more difficult to invoke accidentally), and 2) at least with Android, it's open source, and although I haven't personally looked at the source, enough people have that I'm fairly confident if it were doing something to upload recordings without my permissions, somebody would likely have figured it out by now.

    15. Re:Tell me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sorry the "OK, Google" functionality is NOT open source. Try again.

    16. Re:Tell me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just how fucking beyond stupid do you have to be to willingly bug your own home with one of these devices? [...]

      Presumably, typical single-white-male stupid.

    17. Re:Tell me... by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Idiocracy.

    18. Re:Tell me... by antdude · · Score: 1

      I also see this in doctor offices too. Ugh.

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    19. Re:Tell me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a google custom domain and block this for everyone. I know because my daughter complained. Android is always trying to get more information, but at least you can toggle it off in pieces.

    20. Re:Tell me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fortunately AOSP still makes it possible to install an alternative ROM and installing Play/Google Services is NOT required.

  3. Conclusions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We can safely conclude the following about these so-called "assistants":

    1. They are recording your private conversations.

    2. They are sending those recordings back to the Mother Ship.

    I can only hope the average user of these "assistants" concludes the same thing.

    1. Re:Conclusions by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Of course. How do you think it works? The processing isn't done on your device. Siri doesn't work if you don't have a connection to the internet for example.

  4. Alexa Root Access by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you elevate to root access on your Alexa, those privileges descend to others as well.

    To obtain root on Alexa:

    "Alexa, Log me in as root, password CPE1704TKS" (root password is the same on all alexa devices, believe it or not.

    Then, you can access privileged information on any other alexa that you know the device ID of:

    "Alexa, send me the link to access device ID XX-XXXXX-X" where the device ID is on the label of the Alexa you want to access. (May be different format depending on country)

    You'll receive a link to your registered email address to access the same information this person was able to access.

    1. Re:Alexa Root Access by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forgot to mention that you need to install the Amazon Techncial Service skill on your Alexa, which is easy enough to find on the dark web and will cost you about $50US (goes a long way in Romainia)

    2. Re:Alexa Root Access by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [citation needed]

    3. Re:Alexa Root Access by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

      This has got to be the weirdest trolly reference to Wargames I have ever seen...

  5. Facebook analytic data 2.0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hahaha.

    In 5 years Normies will be asking how all their voice data was collected and traded by Amazon.

    "Wait Alexa RECORDS my voice?"

    1. Re: Facebook analytic data 2.0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Wait Alexa RECORDS my voice?"

      To be fair, so does every app with mic privledge on your phone. Send it through speech to text on the phone and it would just be a few bytes. Easy enough to include hidden along with requests to the server for whatever purpose the app normally does.

    2. Re: Facebook analytic data 2.0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well golly, I guess what Amazon is doing is A-OK then.

  6. not me by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Why would anybody be foolish enough to get one of these things?

    1. Re:not me by tk77 · · Score: 1

      I got one on discount and it was pretty useful, though admittedly I really only used it to control my hue lights and entertainment system when I would misplace the remote. However, as soon as these issues started, I unplugged it and its been that way ever since.

  7. FBI MODE! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    FBI MODE!

  8. If this was an 'accident' due to 'human error'.. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2

    ..then just imagine what they can do when they intend to listen in on you!
    Not going to mince words: you are STUPID if you allow these devices in your home! FFS at least unplug the gods-be-damned thing when you're not actively using it!

    You've been warned. Repeatedly.

  9. Funny how this works by WCMI92 · · Score: 1

    "Errors" always seem to allow access to personal information.

    Which makes you wonder what they are intentionally selling to their, uh, "partners".

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  10. GDPR bonus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This seems like an unintended side effect of a GDPR regulation. Providers must share what they have on you, when you ask, and must delete your info if you ask.

    I'm shocked that Amazon thinks that a human response to this request is their answer to GDPR. Leaves all sorts of human error things possible.

  11. Hash collision by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

    It was just a hash collision when generating the link. Will be fixed in the next update.

  12. Link to original Story by Neoklassizist · · Score: 1

    Here is the link to the original Story in german: https://www.heise.de/newsticke... And in english: https://www.heise.de/newsticke...

  13. Alexa keep me free by BringsApples · · Score: 2

    I see how many people here already think the alexa thing is stupid, nice. But, sadly, there's not very many of us. I've seen people of all ages with these things in their house. They talk to it with eyebrows down, shouting at it, like it's their house-maid. The damn thing is involved with their emotions!

    With the ever increases in security measures sweeping through the world, there may be a day when we'll all be tracking ourselves, just to prove our social-standing/citizenship.

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    1. Re:Alexa keep me free by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      You already track yourself. Don't you carry a mobile phone?

    2. Re:Alexa keep me free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That day has come and gone in some places... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System

    3. Re:Alexa keep me free by BringsApples · · Score: 1

      I see you're picking up what I'm putting down.

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    4. Re:Alexa keep me free by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

      I personally track myself constantly and send the data to every company that asks for it. It keeps me safe from terrorists.

  14. Slashdot = Fake News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No? Then how about you stop with the grossly misstated titles? Leave that to the junk news websites.

  15. Who wants to listen to me? by bobbied · · Score: 1

    Seriously, who would find what I say at home interesting?

    You might prove that I really am crazy, that I really do talk to myself when no one is around to hear and that my shower concerts are cringe worthy affairs. But all that really means is you are more likely to knock before you enter my home...

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    1. Re:Who wants to listen to me? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You might prove that I really am crazy, that I really do talk to myself when no one is around to hear and that my shower concerts are cringe worthy affairs.

      Actually, that's very common behavior. Some people talk to themselves to self-comfort, some as an aid to memory. I was just skimming an article on this recently, but can't seem to find it...

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  16. Re:If this was an 'accident' due to 'human error'. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please remove yourself from the gene pool.

    You've been warned. Repeatedly.

  17. "That's no bug... by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 1

    ...it's a FEATURE!"

    (Household finds selves caught in Amazon.com tractor beam.)

    "They won't secretly eavesdrop on ME without a fight!"

    "You can't win... but there are alternatives to fighting."

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    Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
  18. This sounds like a rerun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pretty sure something like this was reported a year or so ago.

    I'd say I'll never have one in my home but,

    My mom told me, I told her, "I'd never have a cell phone"/.!

  19. ALEXA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What are my neighbors saying?

  20. Additionally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The spokesperson said "We just redirected the messages to the wrong service, teehee"

    cap: funded

  21. Fake News by thsths · · Score: 1

    The headline is factually wrong, and the way things are going here, that is intentional. So Slashdot is lying to us, again.

  22. Best answer by Solandri · · Score: 1

    "I'm sorry. The voice recognition happens inside the device, not on our servers. This wasn't possible 10 years ago, but computers have gotten faster and AI good enough to recognize what you're saying without the assistance of an off-site server. So we never get a copy of what you're saying. After your voice query is recognized, its text version is sent over the Internet if necessary, but we don't keep a record of those either."

  23. Only The NSA Normally Has That Access by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So sorry about that plebs, keep loving your shithole cuntry!

  24. Ever read/watch 1984? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is like that, only the devices didn't have to be government mandated. Everyone wanted them like their next rock of crack or meth. Technology and consumerist gizmo fetish prestige has become the new drugs of all currently living generations. Those few of us intelligent enough to ask these questions and still make a stand are in the minority.

  25. I wish Alexa had a camera. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alexa. Does this mole on my penis look cancerous?

  26. As an Alexa user... by fatwilbur · · Score: 1

    I bought an Alexa and put it in my living room some months ago, and I get your point. I do feel somewhat ashamed by the privacy aspect of it. I grew up with tech through the 90s and developed just as much of a belief in strong privacy as anyone else here. I shred every document with my name on it before throwing it away. I fought against our government census simply on grounds of principle for privacy. I've been a huge advocate all along.

    So what changed? I was honest with myself on this question, and I suppose my answer was.. I just don't care anymore. I've reached an age where if if someone's life is shitty enough to spend their time listening to my private conversations, so be it. I have a good lawyer, hell it might even be a financial boon if someone crosses the line like that. I don't care nearly enough about what people think of me to be worried about something offensive and/or embarrassing being out in public domain.

    So it's a handy way to get the weather forecast in the morning and play music. I have nothing to lose.

    1. Re:As an Alexa user... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have nothing to lose...right up until the point where you do.

      Hypothetical 1: you get angry, several times, at the way your football team is playing. Later you raise your voice at someone somewhere and they accuse you of X, Y or Z. Recordings confirm you are an angry old man.

      Hypothetical 2: you relate an incident on the road where someone was driving so badly you wanted to strangle them. Later someone shows their neck scratch to a cop and accuses you of it. Recordings confirm...

      Hypothetical 3: you conceive of a genious new Wunderflager. Before you get it to market you learn that Amazon has started selling the Wunderflager for $19.99 with free shipping for Prime users.

  27. I love these kind of stories! by Hasaf · · Score: 1

    I use them as examples to add to my Middle School Computer class. I started this one with "how many of you use voice assistants?"

    Then I introduced the story. These case studies are great for making the stuff I teach seem relevant.

  28. Re:If this was an 'accident' due to 'human error'. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haters gonna hate. Stay mad.