So checking the checkbox ("Bookmark all tabs in a folder") is pain?
Granted, it sets them all in a separate folder so you have to click on the "Open in tabs" at the very buttom instead of just the name itself, but this also means you can open individual bookmarks should you choose to... (Hypothetical advantage - I've never used that.)
You can do some forced copying to get Tbird to read it (they use the same format for messages and everything, but strangely know very little about each other). Involves copying the extensionless files over then trying to merge prefs.js manually.
If you run Windows, you can try using MozBackup to get around it.
No; GP is talking about the Firefox-branded search page at Google, not the drop-down box. It also functions as the default start page on a fresh install.
1. Use the zip version - it should work; just don't try to get it to set itself as default browser.
2. Go to Explorer and type in
%appdata%\Application Data\Local Settings
(with the % signs); use the thing it expands to as browser.cache.disk.parent_directory. That is stored locally but never uploaded back to where your profile is stored.
Do you know if there are other plugins? (I'm most interested in ones for Windows.)
Yes, IBM has a Java runtime - but last time I checked, it didn't have a plugin for browsers available; it just ran Java bytecode (presumably for things like web servers). Since the bug appears to be in Sun's browser plugin, that wouldn't help...
The only other plugins I know of are the Microsoft one (old, discontinued, incompatible), Blackdown (Linux), and the Apple one (Mac).
No, that's a 32-bit build optimized for newer chips.
The GP wanted a 64-bit native build.
Last I checked, mmoy (basically some guy on MozillaZine's forum) was trying to do that - I don't think he's quite there yet. See bug 237202 on Mozilla's bugzilla.
* Warning: the linked page is on GeoCities... I'm trying to go through Coral, but still don't know if that will stand up to random people on/.
Actually, this was appearently (will, they claim anyway) supposed to be low-key... Basically only meant for the people who normally would have grabbed the betas (as opposed to everyone who got 1.0PR)
... I guess that didn't exactly work out that way;)
Doesn't seem to work for me (both for Labels and Messages). The detach thing (this icon) does work though - and with a very recent nightly, you get to open that in a tab too.
(Options -> Advanced -> Force links that open new windows to open... in a new tab)
I think that's what Netscape (6.x / 7.x) was - mostly because Mozilla didn't want to deal with support at the time, I believe. Later Seamonkey was eventually marketed as an end-user product, I believe, along with Firefox (around when they were spun off and Netscape went away, IIRC).
Betweent the renaming and (temporary) removal of view source, we (the random bystanders) already are not sure where it's going. On the bright side, sometimes I feel like they don't know either;)
Here's hoping that things won't be that integrated - one of the goals of Firefox seems to be keeping cruft out anyway.
Unfortunately, he didn't cite the majority of the sources (beyond the one about google_im://). With no sources at all, the speculation really doesn't go anywhere.
The bonsai link used to point to a bunch of checkins related to bulletproofing the search stuff from crashing, IIRC (according to the comments anyway) - not exactly Google-branding it. So that's not exactly helpful either.
(Somehow I was disappointed when this showed up on MN, but not on/.... I guess I already gave up on/.)
Word processor, at least, probably - they do have Composer / NVU to rip things out of; I'd be surprised, in fact, if NVU can't browse. So just package that up and you should be off. (Remember that all of the frontend in both is XUL being connected to the C++ bits by XPCOM, meaning that they share the toolkit)
Now, as to why... I have no idea; I would prefer it be separate, but that's why I don't use Seamonkey (Mozilla Suite).
Because it's a hack, and not exactly matainable in the long run.
Appearently, stylesheet support in NS4 was done in JS... Just thought I'd bring that up;) (see source tree, that csstojs.c looks especially suspicious.. But I havn't actually went through it.)
You do realize, of course, that most of the files in their CVS tree (other than/mozilla/other-license/) is MPL/GPL/LGPL tri-licensed (they're actively trying to make all of it true), right?
MPL would mean they would be able to take the code, use MPL only, and never ever distribute the source again... (That's how Netscape managed to have their own fork and not disclose things like the AIM integration, AFAIK - if you dig through bugzilla, you'll see references to bugscape)
I know at least one poster on planet.mozilla.org had already stated that they don't work for the money, and that they'd earn more elsewhere - but not as emotionally fulfilling or some such. Sure, that's just an opinion from some random guy, but it's one that makes sense to me.
* I'm not a real Mozilla-person, so this is just what (I think) I know. Take with dumptruck of salt.
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ECMAScript?;)
At least (at this point, anyway) you'd only be developing for Mozilla - nobody else supports their XUL - so you won't have to worry about cross-browser compatibility. It would turn out fewer warnings though - the prefs javascript.options.strict and javascript.options.showInConsole help somewhat, at least.
(JS definately has its quirks, of course - it's not exactly an OO / procedural language, I guess. I would probably have an easier time with it had I actually been in CS where people get to muck with Scheme...)
Yeah, Venkman doesn't seem to be the best debugger around... But it's not all that bad either.
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The best one I know of is xulplanet.com. You can also google for some of the stuff from IBM (I think there was a series of 3 on using XPCOM); see bottom of this page.
PDFs of the book Rapid Application Development with Mozilla (look for "Download... in PDF" on that page) from the publisher might help too, if you prefer going through that - or buy the book or something.
Note, though: devedge.netscape.com (the Netscape developer's site) appears to have been taken offline recently; so you'll need to go through web.archive.org if you find any results on that that look interesting.
(The folks on forums.mozillazine.org are usually quite nice too, if you're civil about things. Might be a better place to ask.)
ActiveX seems to cover more than that - it seems to do the job of plugins, plus extensions (in the form of BHOs).
And XPI really is more of a file container format; it certainly will never get embedded into a web page (makes about as much sense as embedding a.zip file - wait, they are the same thing;p). Basically, Mozilla seems to have a stronger distinction between extensions to the chrome (extensions) and extensions to the content area (plugins). Of course, either one can still run native code on your machine anyway:)
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Which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg?;)
Oops, sorry, looks like that was only checked into the 1.7 and aviary branches, not trunk. (This still means it will be in Firefox 1.0-ish, but not trunk because the fix doesn't really do the 'right thing' - it only prevents things from getting focused, instead of getting the focus to be local to the tab.)
(For Mozilla:) The second one seems to be bug 124750, which seems to be fixed 2004-10-06. (I still have the exploit page open, but can type in/. just fine.)
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So checking the checkbox ("Bookmark all tabs in a folder") is pain?
Granted, it sets them all in a separate folder so you have to click on the "Open in tabs" at the very buttom instead of just the name itself, but this also means you can open individual bookmarks should you choose to... (Hypothetical advantage - I've never used that.)
You can do some forced copying to get Tbird to read it (they use the same format for messages and everything, but strangely know very little about each other). Involves copying the extensionless files over then trying to merge prefs.js manually.
If you run Windows, you can try using MozBackup to get around it.
No; GP is talking about the Firefox-branded search page at Google, not the drop-down box. It also functions as the default start page on a fresh install.
Wouldn't something like WebMailCompose be better, seeing as it's actually designed for this (as opposed to something that makes link out of text)?
(WebMailCompose is supposed to handle the mailto: links; I don't think it's system-wide though - just in the browser.)
2. Go to Explorer and type in (with the % signs); use the thing it expands to as browser.cache.disk.parent_directory. That is stored locally but never uploaded back to where your profile is stored.
Hmm, I don't suppose you could explain why Opera isn't affected?
IIRC they use the Sun JRE / plugin as well... Or is there something different in Opera about Java/JS connectivity?
Do you know if there are other plugins? (I'm most interested in ones for Windows.)
Yes, IBM has a Java runtime - but last time I checked, it didn't have a plugin for browsers available; it just ran Java bytecode (presumably for things like web servers). Since the bug appears to be in Sun's browser plugin, that wouldn't help...
The only other plugins I know of are the Microsoft one (old, discontinued, incompatible), Blackdown (Linux), and the Apple one (Mac).
Yeah, appearently the *nix way is to follow the GNOME HIG. (Presumably this is also where the OK-on-right came from...)
No, that's a 32-bit build optimized for newer chips.
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The GP wanted a 64-bit native build.
Last I checked, mmoy (basically some guy on MozillaZine's forum) was trying to do that - I don't think he's quite there yet. See bug 237202 on Mozilla's bugzilla.
* Warning: the linked page is on GeoCities... I'm trying to go through Coral, but still don't know if that will stand up to random people on
Actually, this was appearently (will, they claim anyway) supposed to be low-key... Basically only meant for the people who normally would have grabbed the betas (as opposed to everyone who got 1.0PR)
... I guess that didn't exactly work out that way ;)
adbar? ;)
Doesn't seem to work for me (both for Labels and Messages). The detach thing (this icon) does work though - and with a very recent nightly, you get to open that in a tab too.
(Options -> Advanced -> Force links that open new windows to open... in a new tab)
You forgot chat (IRC), word processor / HTML editor, and possibly calendar ;) Oh, and call it Suite.
(Please tell me you meant this to be funny... All the mods are Interesting though.)
I think that's what Netscape (6.x / 7.x) was - mostly because Mozilla didn't want to deal with support at the time, I believe. Later Seamonkey was eventually marketed as an end-user product, I believe, along with Firefox (around when they were spun off and Netscape went away, IIRC).
Betweent the renaming and (temporary) removal of view source, we (the random bystanders) already are not sure where it's going. On the bright side, sometimes I feel like they don't know either ;)
Here's hoping that things won't be that integrated - one of the goals of Firefox seems to be keeping cruft out anyway.
Unfortunately, he didn't cite the majority of the sources (beyond the one about google_im://). With no sources at all, the speculation really doesn't go anywhere.
/.... I guess I already gave up on /.)
The bonsai link used to point to a bunch of checkins related to bulletproofing the search stuff from crashing, IIRC (according to the comments anyway) - not exactly Google-branding it. So that's not exactly helpful either.
(Somehow I was disappointed when this showed up on MN, but not on
Word processor, at least, probably - they do have Composer / NVU to rip things out of; I'd be surprised, in fact, if NVU can't browse. So just package that up and you should be off. (Remember that all of the frontend in both is XUL being connected to the C++ bits by XPCOM, meaning that they share the toolkit)
Now, as to why... I have no idea; I would prefer it be separate, but that's why I don't use Seamonkey (Mozilla Suite).
(Assuming you mean just using the .htc's straight)
;) (see source tree, that csstojs.c looks especially suspicious.. But I havn't actually went through it.)
Because it's a hack, and not exactly matainable in the long run.
Appearently, stylesheet support in NS4 was done in JS... Just thought I'd bring that up
You do realize, of course, that most of the files in their CVS tree (other than /mozilla/other-license/) is MPL/GPL/LGPL tri-licensed (they're actively trying to make all of it true), right?
MPL would mean they would be able to take the code, use MPL only, and never ever distribute the source again... (That's how Netscape managed to have their own fork and not disclose things like the AIM integration, AFAIK - if you dig through bugzilla, you'll see references to bugscape)
I know at least one poster on planet.mozilla.org had already stated that they don't work for the money, and that they'd earn more elsewhere - but not as emotionally fulfilling or some such. Sure, that's just an opinion from some random guy, but it's one that makes sense to me.
* I'm not a real Mozilla-person, so this is just what (I think) I know. Take with dumptruck of salt.
ECMAScript? ;)
At least (at this point, anyway) you'd only be developing for Mozilla - nobody else supports their XUL - so you won't have to worry about cross-browser compatibility. It would turn out fewer warnings though - the prefs javascript.options.strict and javascript.options.showInConsole help somewhat, at least.
(JS definately has its quirks, of course - it's not exactly an OO / procedural language, I guess. I would probably have an easier time with it had I actually been in CS where people get to muck with Scheme...)
Yeah, Venkman doesn't seem to be the best debugger around... But it's not all that bad either.
The best one I know of is xulplanet.com. You can also google for some of the stuff from IBM (I think there was a series of 3 on using XPCOM); see bottom of this page.
... in PDF" on that page) from the publisher might help too, if you prefer going through that - or buy the book or something.
PDFs of the book Rapid Application Development with Mozilla (look for "Download
Note, though: devedge.netscape.com (the Netscape developer's site) appears to have been taken offline recently; so you'll need to go through web.archive.org if you find any results on that that look interesting.
(The folks on forums.mozillazine.org are usually quite nice too, if you're civil about things. Might be a better place to ask.)
ActiveX seems to cover more than that - it seems to do the job of plugins, plus extensions (in the form of BHOs).
.zip file - wait, they are the same thing ;p). Basically, Mozilla seems to have a stronger distinction between extensions to the chrome (extensions) and extensions to the content area (plugins). Of course, either one can still run native code on your machine anyway :)
And XPI really is more of a file container format; it certainly will never get embedded into a web page (makes about as much sense as embedding a
Which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg? ;)
Oops, sorry, looks like that was only checked into the 1.7 and aviary branches, not trunk. (This still means it will be in Firefox 1.0-ish, but not trunk because the fix doesn't really do the 'right thing' - it only prevents things from getting focused, instead of getting the focus to be local to the tab.)
(For Mozilla:) /. just fine.)
The second one seems to be bug 124750, which seems to be fixed 2004-10-06. (I still have the exploit page open, but can type in