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Mozilla Releases Firefox 1.0 RC1
islandroots writes "Mozilla has finally posted the first Firefox 1.0 release candidate on their FTP servers. This could very well be the last official release of Firefox before the big 1.0 launch date on November 9th. Mozilla FTP Servers"
When we're all playing Halo 2 on November 9th! Pick another release date!
After reading comments that indicate that your installed extensions will show up as incompatible with RC1, I think I'll wait. Apparently the browser has to automatically consider extensions as incompatible until authors check them or something along those lines.
http://www.busyweather.com/
How different is this from my Preview Release? Should I download it? Or just wait until Nov 9th?
... with Firefox 1.0 RC1 It counts for something, doesn't it?
Be aware, there's some sort of Java bug with the application update mechanism. There is a bit of a thread here.
Annoying pop-up bug?
I had an issue with two Firefox windows opening at the click of a link in an email. (very annoying when responding to phpbb forum mail)
Easily fixed using google and a registry patch.
I've used each version of Firefox (or whatever their earlier names were) since 0.7. I am on PR1 now, or whatever the version label is. Oddly, I feel compelled to wait and not try this release candidate. I know the date of the planned 1.0 release and for some reason knowing that has me thinking it's perfectly ok to wait until then.
In Soviet Russia, The (manchurian) FireFox candidate releases YOU!
My Favourite Meme
I just installed 1.0PR and got everything just the way I wanted it, including a recalcitrant Java terminal emulator working. Ah, well, price of progress, and off I go to do it all again!
One CPU cycle wasted on digital restrictions management is ONE TOO MANY.
this dodgy website. I am using 1.0 RC1 at the moment and it often renders this site very badly, hiding the text in negative-X land. Perhaps I should have stuck to internet explorer, which this site is obviously designed for.
Although it's nice to have an announcement on slash, it would also be nice to have a pointer IN the article to a changelog which would give me reasons to upgrade from "Pre-Release" to "Release Candidate"
Why?
"Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041026 "
..(search the web is one, opening an url you highlighted in a new tab is another...)
and you are right, some extensions don't work anymore (I had "browsertime" not working), but all the others I use seem fine (download manager tweak, translation panel, user agent switcher, dictionnary search)
On the other hand, so many things that were working only so and so are now working again
So if you are not THAT dependant on ALL your extensions give it a try... also that way you can mail your extension wrtiter and get them/help them to fix that compatibility problem...
It takes 40+ muscles to frown, but only four to extend your arm and bitchslap the motherfucker
It was quite disturbing: When I had a site open in one window, which would open new windows through java script, everything worked until I had a second window open (with a couple of tabs). When clicking on a java script link to open a picture, for example, firefox would segfault. This is on Linux, and I couldn't remedy this with a new profile.
I have been using 0.9.3 since then.
I feel so sig.
This "release candidate" is really just an interim release between 1.0PR and 1.0 final. The Firefox team knows that there are still significant bugs that must be addressed before 1.0-final. See The Burning Edge for a small taste of what's been fixed since 1.0PR, and what is still left to do.
;)
A word of caution: there will be significant bugfixes between now and the final release, but there may or may not be automatic update notifications. If you decide to install this on the computers of your friends and family, make sure to upgrade them again later
I downloaded and run a firefox PR1 release on October 5th. (Check filedate, yes October 5th) Was that a rebranded 0.9.4 or has the the website been update only recently?
(Or am I going mad?)
P.S. RSS still needs work, but looks like it's going to kick @$$!
In the French version of Halo 2, your main weapons are a very hard baguette and a big white flag.
Thanks, I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waiter.
See http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/
It's firefox and Thunderbird compiled specifically for processor architectures. (they have slightly better performance than normal Firefox)
Its a bug release - ala no new features.
Keep those bug reports coming!
"This is a rough changelog for the RC-1 release. It's probably got a few bugs on it that aren't actually fixed and it's certainly missing a few bugs that were fixed, but it should give you a pretty good idea about most of the 250 or so bugs we've fixed since the Preview Release."
...if I remember a previous story on slashdot...
And don't underestimate the power of a hard baguette.
I don't need a signature.
Thing is, this is a GOOD THING (TM). The Mozilla foundation is trying to weed out the bugs now, the security bug hunting contest, etc should ring a bell . They fixed more than 250 bugs, blocking the 1.0final. Its better to make things work now, than to break things later. Anyway the NYT ad is about FF 1.0 FINAL, which should not have any serious security problems (look at the Burning Edge for bugfixes. There are other reasons that why IE shouldnt be compared to FF aswell, including M$ policy about what is considered a "vulnerability" and a "security issue" and that IE is not actively developed now for four(!!!) years. Its quite bad that there are serious bugs in IE at all(!!), remember they had four years to weed those out. Just my $0.05 :)
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say
Extensions
Are difficult to install for my family, who simply don't understand or trust the process.
Often incompatible with latest releases, preventing me from upgrading for months
Incomaptible with each other
Can cause problems EVEN if deemed "compatible", and often even uninstall fo extension does nothing! Have to reinstall fire*! This is my biggest annoyance, Adblock broke the downloading progress bar, then tabbrowser extensions ruined my cookies settings. All too often I feel like the extensions are like a house of cards piled up, and I'm hesitatant to even install a new theme in case they all fall over and I have to install them all over again, fingers crossed.
Really, the whole extensions system is a mass of incompatabilities, conflicting requirements, errors and security dubious sources. I'd prefer any bloat to that!
Is this post a dupe? I'm sure I read this same post a few days ago.
Then again, it could be the fact I'm rather sleep and caffeine deprived right now.
Cogito, ergo sig.
Ask yourself these 2 questions about FF and then IE...
How many times have you heard (directly) of someone's machine being infested with 'sploits and spyware through that browser?
How many times have YOU found something slightly suspicious on your machine due to that browser?
Which browser came out as "less secure"?
Security flaws are One Thing, actual in-use live exploits of vulnerabilities are Quite Another.
Plus;
get FF backdoored, browser fucked.
get IE backdoored, COMPUTER fucked.
In a nutshell, one is worried that the UMO (update.mozilla.org) staff does not have the resources to properly scan all extensions and extension updates for malicious code. And even if you do check the extension when submitted, the author may add an update later with malicious code, and then Firefox installations all over the world may get infected.
Currently, they may be able to handle the task, but if Firefox manages to gain even more popularity, one can probably expect even more submitted extensions, and with a larger user base, it becomes a tempting target for crackers.
Fortunately, the discussion in the MozillaZine forums seems to result in a lot of nice ideas about how one can handle this, but it might still be something one needs to keep in mind.
It would be sad if Firefox was hit by security problems with extensions similar to how ActiveX has been a problem in Internet Explorer.
Perhaps Firefox's growing popularity will lead to more donations, of which some money can be used to hire staff to really make sure that UMO is not used as a tool to spread malware?
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I'd prefrer to wait until the relase the whole suit. I wonder when will they relase Mozilla 2.0 (hoping support on ActiveX)
Awesome! Where can I get a CPU of this speed?
Firefox until 1.0 (after that version it will change) is based on a spinoff of the 1.7 branch. In this branch (called aviary branch) they ported in some fixes from the trunk and also some from 1.7 branch.
Exactly the same issue here (on linux) - this is the first other report of the same problem that I've found, I'm not going mad after all ;)
It now seems to implement everything that the Mozilla Browser does, and I don't really find it any faster than the Mozilla Suite, and I like the integrated mail client (which has great search, spam filtering and other facilities).
Some people object to using the suite if they don't use the mail client, but really, come on, it's taking up only a few MB on your hard disk. Get over it!
If you do use the associated Thunderbird mail client then you're actually using more memory as the GRE (Gecko Runtime Environment) is not yet sharable between different processes.
Plans like putting a full page ad in the New York Times for FireFox seem a bit crazy to me. What about the mail client, IRC client and forthcoming calendar? Advertise once there's a whole suite, and even then not in newspapers!
That's funny. Do you remember that in beginning of XIX century french virtually owned the whole Europe (that Napoleon guy was kinda cool). As for WWII - they did not loose their territories, lost fewer people than others, preserved their culture. How is that stupid?
well, second that :) :\
I have the same issue, the only way I got to resolve was sing the "Single Window" extension so every window will open in a tab. It's annoying since some javascript opened windows won't show
http://stoploudness.org/
Right off of the spreadfirefox.com website:
a note to SFX community: This is a testing release. This is not a product release. We're not pushing this release on our PR users. The majority of PR users should stick with PR until 1.0 ships. This is a testing release and we don't need everyone downloading it, just the folks that want to be involved with testing and bug reporting. Please don't evangelize this release or start pushing all your friends and family to upgrade. Most of them should wait until 1.0 in about two weeks.
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Because someone trolls the web all night waiting for Mozilla to release another version of Firefox, they get rewarded with their in lights on the front page of slashdot. Did you wonder why it's only on the FTP server and not advertised on the web site?
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My company portal uses SVG graphics and no matter what I do I cannot get Firefox/Mozilla to view them.
Sort of makes it useless for me on a coorprate level and that makes me very sad.
What about those potential vulnerabilities discovered by Michael Zalewski ? Are they fixed ?
Thats something very important IMHO.
Each one of them is one potential exploit waiting some malicious hacker.
I believe all of them should be fixed before the 1.0 release, which should be considered stable, and doesnt have the benefit of the "pre-1.0" excuse.
You can actually put all languages in 1 package
This way, you won't get any usual mac users except geeks who compiles their own.
As a Omniweb user, I wanted to point. As Mozilla stories are full of fanatics, prefer to post AC, sorry...
This is really handy. Just added it to my personal toolbar and I have a quick way to fix slashdot when it doesn't look right.
With diplomacy like yours, Monsieur, no amount of weapons will ever suffice.
They are still uploading more local versions.
Check populicio.us
I hope that this RC was branched in the beginning of October, because there are still some small UI-glitches present that could prove hard to erase (all). Some of them (NL/Dutch): - About box doesn't work - missing something in aboutdialog.xul - Downloads title in settings spells just "D" - "Help for internet explorer users" is not translated (anywhere?). But I must say that the overall look is getting better, mainly the (re)draw of a lot of icons works towards a more professional image for the browser. All in all: good luck to the development team getting all the details in place, great job so far!
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French culture is not exactly worth preserving, so that might be called stupid.
Unless you enjoy shitting while balancing over a hole in the ground after eating slugs and pig brains.
I meant "French language only", of course.
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
Things Firefox does differently or does not have that Mozilla does (from my experience): * Bookmarking groups of tabs and then opening them all with a single click - Mozilla yes, Firefox no. * Opening new blank tabs with a button - Mozilla yes, Firefox no. To me these are features I use very often and that I can't use in Firefox. I hope they continue Mozilla. Thanks for listening.
I thought this was super neat. I went to Dodge's website - www.4adodge.com and started to price/build a new car. I got a popup saying "Your browser is not officially supported." Before I started cussing like a sailor I continued reading and it say "If you would like to continue, press OK. Otherwise, press cancel." I couldn't believe. Someone had the state of mind to let me keep going at my own risk. It was unbelievable.
Blessed be he who reads this post, Cursed be he who tells my boss.
"The way we can tell it's C# instead of Haskell is because it's nine lines instead of two." -- wadler
I upgraded just now (win32), and now my home button doesn't work. It totally ignores it. When I middle click on the home button, it _DOES_ open home in a new tab. This is really odd.
Has anyone else had this problem?
This would at least take care of easily opening new blank tabs with a quick motion of the mouse.
NO YUO
(due to rendering differences between Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox, the above statement may appear misspelled when being viewed in Firefox)
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
"The way we can tell it's C# instead of Haskell is because it's nine lines instead of two." -- wadler
I have tried installing that plugin many many times.. everything works perfect in IE but Mozilla / Firebird refuse to see the plugin..
. ht ml
Here is an example:
http://www.design-ireland.net/graphics/svg-demo
IE can see the logo, no matter what I do Mozilla / Firebird just displays a blank screen.
"How is this flamebait?! He's responding to flamebait with objective facts."
Things like this happens on Mozilla related stories sorry.
When a story posted about mozilla, all those fanatics popup and use their mod points.
I am glad I paid $30 for Omniweb for OS X...
You've really got to admire the Mozilla team's marketing strategy. Whether they intended it or not there is hardly a day gone past since a week or two ago when there hasn't been a major article about Firefox (and its forthcoming release) amongst the mainstream news or tech journals.
It's obvious that it's going to take a lot of promotional work to get the browser out there a little bit more, converting the unwashed IE-using masses, but isn't it getting a little bit too over the top?
We get it. Firefox is released on November 9th. You don't have to tell us several times a day until launch!
"Joy is not in things; it is in us." Richard Wagner
If I remember correctly, Firefox 1.0 was going to replace the browser componet in the Mozilla Suite. Can anyone else clarify?
Too bad I'm out of mod points. "+1 Befuddling" would really be useful about now...
Oh, and learn to use verbs and their proper tenses, man. They're what you do.
and imagine, post got TROLL point. double trolls at least.
It seems like a real bug.
Mozilla fanatics, get a life and ask yourself why AOL dumped you!
Or even why JWZ dumped you.
There was this little thing called "resistence" that the French had. You know, they were actively fighting against the armies occupying their soil and helping UK and allied troops with intelligence on how to hurt the Germans. They also forced the Germans to have a very large military presence in France in order to keep the peace....
Mother is the best bet and don't let Satan draw you too fast.
I'd buy Opera instead of those 2 or use ad version.
Not spyware too.
Using Omniweb on Mac since its more native to OS X.
remember "IE Shines on broken html" article the other week? Test these:http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/mangleme/gallery/ on firefox rc1: they're already fixed
Actually the whole release may just be fixing bugs( and changed the icon on live bookmarks:p )
gtkaml.org
Like I fucking care, check my .sig.
Oh you did already so flaming me.
Firefox is maintained by lifeless mozilla geeks, I don't use it.
Got $30 to pay for my favorite browser and another $30 if I am bored.
See, mozilla fans are like you. Thats why AOL and JWZ dumped you. Lifeless geeks!
Nope you're not alone, I remember the grandparent too.
you mean like they voulntarily surrendered indochina to japan? how about all of their colonies in Asia? Starting the vietnam war was really smart too..
The war with islam is a war on the beast
The war on terror is a war for peace
You should be ashamed.
First, I am an American.
if the other Allies hadn't "rescued" France during WWII, they most certainly would have lost everything.
You know, there was this little thing called the revolutionary war, and if the French hadn't "rescued" us we'd all be eating fish & chips and biscuits.
Get some perspective, and a bit of an education before you blurt out lines you've heard other idiots use.
"Oh, you hate your job? There's a support group for that, it's called everyone, they meet at the bar."
Wow, thanks. That's really handy. :)
Joseph?
So, my question is: if you don't use Firefox, if you don't use Mozilla, why are you trolling? Why do you even care? Slow day at work? Not enough porn to fill your day?
"I gues it would be kharma suicide if you had made ANY sense in the post."
;)
An application with good prebinding can launch 70% faster on OS X
I don't know about XP but it has similar scheme, aka stolen stuff.
Its more than flaming critics grammar if you want to support Mozilla/firefox.
Oh btw, thanks to Omniweb's excellent use of OS X spelling service.
The installer for firefox PR1 is a nice-looking, MSI-ish thing in windows, so I have no iea what you're going on about.
And no, I don't usually run "that OS".
You mean they where too much cowards not to buy into Bush's lies about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?
3000ghz? I have got to get me one of those!
AHHHAHAHAAHHAH that comment just made my day! Those bastard cheese-eating surrender monkeys! Worthless I tell ya. Worthless!
-1 Flamebait, see :)
End of issue, you shouldn't waste time.
I meant 3gz or 3000mhz. Anyway according to www.michaelscomputers.com the processor is only 10% of the systems performance.
The other 90% of my systems performance comes from the USB powered seat warmer.
You're right to call it a "little thing." The resistance was inconsequential when you look at the big picture. The Allies would have won without them. Their greatest victories included seeding the German laundry with itching powder. Fuck the resistance and their half-assed "contribution."
The fact that you TRIVIALIZE September 17th for some piss-ass event on 9/11 shows you to be a heartless, *o*-hating, freedom-hating, american-hating, biscuit-eating, GLEEP!!!!!!!
Yeah, right.
They described firefox as a technology preview for mozilla some time ago.
If you mod this up, your slashdot background will turn into a beautiful sunset!
Will there be a extension for a secret Halo 2 level!?
Come on, Bungie and Mozilla! We know you're working together! The release date says it all!
Since I am not a coder, does anyone know if there will be a 64-bit build of Firefox? I'd like to use it on my 64-bit XP Beta machine.
Viv
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What I would really need is a spellchecker...
...etc...)
Being a non-native english speaker make my slashdot browsing quite interesting, as I find myself in contact with US/UK/Aussie slang...so I took the dictionary in.
also, yes firefox still effs up slashdot rendering...usually a simple reload solves it...
Being on Linux make me a firefox user, as it is a very good browser andd I absolutly refuse to even try to wine-install IE on my linux box => user agent switcher makes for most of IE only webpages (hellomoto.com ,
I'll try it on slashdot next time 8)
It takes 40+ muscles to frown, but only four to extend your arm and bitchslap the motherfucker
Can anyone remember the last mozilla build to use the red star icon??? .exe file to change the icon on my shortcut...
I want to extract the icon from the
I was a big user of Netscape Navigator's web browser and email clients, but switched over to Mozilla when it went gold. I've tried Firefox a few times, but it doesn't have a mail client and therefore doesn't fulfill my needs. How is Thunderbird? I don't really want to change over to a pre-1.0 release unless someone can convince me that it is prety darn stable and feature-complete.
Does anybody know the bugzilla number for this bug so I can vote for it? This problem bugs the hell out of me (pun intended). Of course, I'm operating on the theory that the more votes a bug has on it, the more likely (if only slightly) it is of being given priority to be fixed. Oh, if only I had the time to contribute my own fixes....
-1 Trolling fucking MacTard.
At least that's the impression you're trying to create. Personally, I don't believe you could afford a Mac. I doubt your mother makes enough money as a prostitute to buy you any kind of computer.
I think you're a 12 year old Romanian script kiddie with a stolen account, an hilariously bad command of the English language and a number of developmental problems.
$30????
You don't have $30. You've never had $30. The only way you will ever get $30 is if you rob an American tourist.
there have been _MORE_ vulnerabilities in Firefox than IE in the last six months!
...
Whether thats true or not is open but; two points -
1) firefox hasnt officially released to the public yet its close Thats what the RC1 (release candidate) every one that is using firefox right now is a potential tester/bug reporter; if you find a problem with Firefox and you are a good citizen you should let them know via the bug tracking system.
2) The fact that you are seeing all these bugs being found should inspire confidence that the firefox team and testers are doing a good job in weeding them out.
When Firefox is officially released - after the RC stage. Then you can start getting worried about people finding bugs. Its enevitable that will happen but by the looks of things they are doing a damn good job of getting them out now, so when Firefox 1.0 Final comes out you should be in good hands.
Nick
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Refusing to use potentially incompatible components is the most user-friendly solution.
It also encourages users to stick with old versions with known security holes because they work with an old extension that hasn't since been updated.
I use v0.9.3 of firefox on one machine and the 1.0rc on my other machine.both the machines have exactly the same config, the are both hp ,same models bought on the same day.But the one with 0.9.3 performs really well.The new version keeps hanging n crashing after a few hours of use n abuse.
have you guys experience a decrease in speed of the later version?
Lord of the Binges.
Of course, us mere mortals running precompiled releases instead of building our own state of the art browser directly from the source trunk, don't get to enjoy that fix.
Mozilla.org does provide nightly builds, frequent binary releases for each platform based on the trunk.
Yup, I have tried that one too.. nothing. Still comes back saying I don't have SVG support.
Seems like my computer just refuses to view SVG graphics with any Mozilla product.
Sucks.
I may be mistaken, but isn't this part of the browser or not an extension. At least if it is an extension it's packaged with the browser, but it's worked for me fine w/o needing to download anything extra.
Of course, that's in the windows world. Due to clipboard issues it might be different in Linux, but I can't check since debian hasn't hit the 1.X rc stage yet and I'm not into mucking my system with non-packaged software.
I didn't even know there was an easy to install dictionary with firefox/mozilla...
I'll test it right away 8)
It takes 40+ muscles to frown, but only four to extend your arm and bitchslap the motherfucker
Here's some time-saving download links!
l eases/1.0rc1/Firefox%20Setup%20(1.0rc1,%20en-US).e xe
l eases/1.0rc1/firefox-1.0rc1.en-US.linux-i686.insta ller.tar.gz
l eases/1.0rc1/MD5SUMS
English USA Windows - http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/re
MD5 Checksum - bb0384ca19b9857041a792132c1ec60b
English USA Linux - http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/re
MD5 Checksum - 731dd489140f2f178647ce06112913fb
MD5 Checksums - http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/re
MD5 Checksum Utility - http://www.md5summer.org/download.html
Remember, checksum is just to make sure the file is what it should be and that it's OK to use, google for info. In Linux you may or may not meed a utility as most distros now have it built in.
Maybe make a Firefox/Mozilla SDK for sites that are IE-only Firefox friendly? that should help propagation.
I'm waiting until the final release of version 1.0. Using 0.9.1 right now, and don't feel like going through the trouble of sorting through incompatible extensions, etc.
I am the maverick of Slashdot
Gotta love it, hopefully my extension wont be broken on this new release :)
http://www.opine-it.com
Anyone know if the Zalewski bugs (254944 et al ) are slated to be fixed before the 1.0 release?
Your pizza just the way you ought to have it.
Watch Frontline on PBS about old Rummy (Rumsfeld) and the neocon agenda.
The ability to make the browser popup ALT attributes for images?
The alternate text attribute is only to be shown if the image is broken or to aid those who are vision impaired and such. Hence alternate text. If a person wants text to show when a mouse hovers over it, they should use the title tag instead.
Alt vs Title
Either way, the point is that Firefox is simply enforcing / supporting W3C webstandards! It doesn't display alt text when you hover the mouse over it because it's not supposed to be displayed for the normal, fully functional user if the image is rendered properly. And people wonder why the web is so messed up.
Fetch Text URL - Firefox Extension
Some sites are now doing something different with the popups, that fools every pop up blocker out there.
Try http://astalavista.box.sk/ for a sample
Open Source Java Web Forum with LDAP authentication
You read it. IT's a cut-n-paste troll...
Put identity in the browser.
You say that like it's a bad thing.....
I make a reasonable middle-class wage by going to work and not spamming blogs with scams.
I would like to point out that curry is now Great Britians favourite takeaway food. :)
Fish and Chips are for when your pissed (Which for us brits is erm well, most of the time really). Or you don't have time to wait for the curry.
Cheers.
get IE backdoored, COMPUTER fucked.
Well... shell and (mostly) internet connection.
If FF has a bug that allows execution of arbitrary binary code, your computer is fucked. (or at least that user account and those of all open windows) Same for IE, but without the "if".
Have they finally fixed the cursed tabbed browsing memory leak where, closing tabs doesn't free up the memory it used?
Mozilla can start some kind of volunteer based "Mozilla Certified" group to look at new extensions that want this certification. Push the cert like a brand and tell users that non-certified apps might contain spyware and other nasties.
Or take a hard-line approach and change the licensing for XUL developers so they cant use it for spyware. This probably isnt possible as all this stuff is open source.
Perhaps the mozilla people can partner up with the spybot or adaware people and include the binaries in the installer.
"Do you want to install SpyBot, a spyware remover?"
That way, when they leave IE they also get a chance to clean up their machines, thus making FF appear to render all the quicker.
(I love firefox, IE can go suck eggs)
Meh.
We're they attacking civilians or the miliary?
That's the distinction.
Not to mention helping the U.S. win the American Revolution.
Read your history schmuck. Louis XVI was King of France during the American Revolution. He started helping in 1775 (that's right, before 1776). So the French had everything to do with it. Since it put such a financial strain on France, helping the Americans with the American Revolution may ultimately have been a contributing factor in the French Revolution and Louis XVI's death.
At the time of the American Revolution Napoleon was just starting military school. He didn't start fighting any battles till the late 1790's.
As well, since it seems you probably didn't hear about it, Napoleon was French. In fact, he was the Emperor of France, but that wasn't until 1804. He was kicked out in 1814 and tried for a come-back in 1815, and failed at Waterloo. He died (suspected poisoning) in his prison on St. Helena in 1821.
France has won many wars. That is why there are so many French or former French territories around the world. Get your hillbilly ass off the moonshine or meth or whatever you are smoking, and actually learn what you are talking about.
You are probably a troll, but I had to say it anyway.
-- I ignore anonymous replies to my comments and postings.
At the risk of being moderated as flamebait myself, I have to say that if the other Allies hadn't "rescued" France during WWII, they most certainly would have lost everything.
At the risk of being moderated flambait, I have to say that if France hadn't saved America's ass during the Revolutionary War, we most certainly would be a different country today.
This annoyed me too at first. Try ALT-click.
I discovered it by accident. I have no idea why they changed CTRL-click to ALT-click in Firefox vs. Mozilla, but they did.
The other two points I don't miss in the least, as I (a) don't run windows (I value my sanity), and (b) have no phobia of entering text into the location bar.
Really, CTRL-click was something I couldn't live without, so I was very glad to stumble on ALT-click.
The Future of Human Evolution: Autonomy
Overruled. Don't be a dope. Those situations are politically entirely different.
A colony declaring independence may not even be morally justified to do so, but no one would deny the moral correctness of a nation defending its own soil. The effect of this is that France would have experienced a more negative outcome in the face of Axis invasion than the British colony subjects would have experienced if their stand to create their own nation had failed.
So, please -- you think before you speak next time.
--Colin
So I take it you are the same Anonymous Troll that posted this a few days ago. My (late) reply still applies.
In short, claiming that Firefox has had more vulnerabilities is misleading at best, and a lie at worst. Any way you slice it, Firefox's security track record is vastly better than IE's.
Weighing in at a svelte 25 megabytes and launching (on a 1ghz G4) in a mere 20 seconds, Firefox is perhaps less useful for Mac users. Safari launches in a fraction of the time weighs a lot less.
Isn't there some way to trim it back? I want to like it. I use it exclusively on the PCs in my life, but I can't put up with its excessive bloat on my iBook.
The US didn't win the American Revolution....
I could go for some mushy peas. Damn French.
'Same speed C but faster'
Are you implying there is a genetic or a cultural deficience in the french population?
Oh and you do know that Napoleon was french?
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That's it!!!! For some reason that file was not in my plugins directory. I copied that one and the NPSVG3.zip into the Firebird plugins dir and it worked perfectly!
When you have Opera set to "Block all Pop-ups" nothing comes up from that site.
Yeah, they also shipped French prisoners to German concentration camps to keep the Germans busy killing them.
MSI downloads: yup blocking 1.0 on bugzilla. Oh and firefox was MADE for windows.
If you have nothing useful to say post as AC.
go on waste some more precious karma:- by being stoopid ya'll never get mod points
I love how the US picks on france's lack of courage, and this is from a country that put off entering the war until they were finally attacked on their own soil.
Then again, I'm just a troll.
-Derek
Treat me like a marketing stat, and I'll treat your movie like a series of ones and zeros
You know, there was this little thing called the revolutionary war, and if the French hadn't "rescued" us we'd all be eating fish & chips and biscuits.
You say that like it's a bad thing.....
Have you ever eaten real British fish & chips? It is a bad thing.
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Morally? Why would we even care about the morals of either situation? I was simple describing an event that took place.
It's called history for a reason and the facts speak for themselves.
"Oh, you hate your job? There's a support group for that, it's called everyone, they meet at the bar."
Overruled. Don't be a dope. Those situations are politically entirely different.
Overrulled yourself. "Politics" (whatever you mean by that) has nothing to do with it. Control over territory is the only issue here.
If the U.S. hadn't helped France in WWII, then Germany might currently control France.
If France hadn't helped the U.S. during the U.S. Revolutionary War, then England might currently control the U.S.
Those are the same dang thing.
Does anybody know if there is a way to support multiple sessions within tabs? Or between independet firefox windows/browsers for that matter?
/I haven't read all the help files
Why not use Camino? It's a version of Mozilla specifically for Mac OS X and weighs in at less than 7 MB.
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
They were making too much $$$$ selling weapons to Iraq.
Don't forget to add
user_pref("config.trim_on_minimize", false);
to your user.js file in your profile. It gets rid of that annoying 10 second (sometimes more) wait you often see when you maximize your browser window from a long rest. Not sure it's necessary on Linux, but on Windows I've found it to be truly great.
Of course, only use it if you can spare the memory.
France has won many wars. That is why there are so many French or former French territories around the world. Get your hillbilly ass off the moonshine or meth or whatever you are smoking, and actually learn what you are talking about.
Examples for those who don't know:
Remember the Louisiana purchase? The U.S. bought that territory from France. France originally conquered this area (and lost it, and regained it, but that's a whole other story).
Many parts of Asia were at one time French colonies. Vietnam famously so, but also other Asian countries such as Laos.
Likewise, France had African colonies, e.g. Algeria and Djibouti.
In all cases, France originally got those colonies by _winning wars_. These colonies have since tended to become independent, as with pretty much all other colonies around the world (e.g. The Philippines), so losing colonies is not unique to France.
Of course, as many people have stated, France has won (and lost) plenty of wars in Europe. Napoleon is recent and was more successful than any French ruler since Charlemagne, so people tend to remember him, but France had its other victories (Brittany used to be part of Britian, you know!)
Firefox... Mozilla... Opera... IE... GUI browsing is for wimps. I use (e)links for surfing, and wget for getting!
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But buying that one on your own was "smarter".
Since IE isn't being developed anymore, maybe we can convince M$ to open source it. The only problem is the virus community might sieze the oppurtunity and crank out viruses like mad. It would be interesting to see IE's source code. Maybe there could be a way to integrate firefox into a version of linux the way they did with windows. Heck, maybe we could integrate Forfox into windows ourselves, and totally uninstall IE, to leave it to the dogs. It is an interesting proposition, but i'm afraid there are too many adverse consequences for this to be a profitable move.
Reading the daily firefox changelogs (http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/
)
"Because of the fix for bug 266221, these builds will not automatically update when Firefox 1.0 comes out. If you install 1.0 RC1 for friends, be sure to tell them to upgrade when 1.0 comes out, in case there are security fixes between now and Firefox 1.0.
I bet no one told their friends & family that when they download Firefox, they were downloading beta software.
As if a "released" version from the other vendor is somehow different.
A beta by any other name would cause as much breakage.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
The Allies would have won without them? The Allies consisted of the Brits and the Americans. The French were the only people on the Continent to have any sort of organized Resistance movement. It was because of the French counterintelligence that the Allies were able to land at Normandy which is (gasp) in France.
You really should check your facts before commenting.
Why would Slashdot users, or people who dislikes IE and Microsoft, have an XBox?
Nice to know the Soviets didn't do any fighting. And what about the Partisans in Russia? They did plenty to disrupt the logistics of the German war effort there.
Yeesh... the one thing from keeping me from using Firefox as my promary browser...
All I want to do is open a link in the background when middle clicked:
Firefox on every platform but OSX? YES
Opera on OSX? YES
Safari? YES
Even goddamn Mozilla under X on OSX? YES
Firefox on OSX? NO
Still lovin it but WTF
I browse at +5 Flamebait- moderation for all or moderation for none.
Military is being attacked in Iraq, and noone questions it when the attackers are called 'terrorists' there.
You damn torrie!
A slashdotter who didn't build his own computer is like a Jedi who didn't build his own lightsaber.
No, their soma goes by the name of fox news, msbc, talk radio, etc.
In the new america, facts and history and decadent excesses of the reality based community. The faith based community has no need for such things.
Hey, we Finns were fighting too!!!
Oh wait.
Hopefully not someone from the USA, a country whose major culinary exports are tasteless piss beer, burgers and a number of carbonated soft drinks.
Microsoft doesn't like people knowing about ther exploits. Every single one of firefox's is released to the public. So there could be more for IE, only microsoft knows...
Hello,
I downloaded the firefox dmg for en-us. the gpg signature listed in the KEY file is different than the key used to sign the file. Any mozilla developers know what is going on?
Douglas Calvert
[Ctrl]-u in Mozilla in Linux clears the location bar. That feature is broke in Firefox versions I have tried. You can select, then delete what is in the location bar, but that copies the location bar into your cut/paste buffer...not good if you were about to paste a URL in the location bar!
When they fix this, I will try it again.
Or do you let the nazis in and then fight a Guerilla war? Kinda like what is happening in Iraq?
The two aren't comprable. The Nazis put their boots on the necks of the guys they took over. The US is repairing power plants, fixing broken waterworks, etc. By far the average Iraqi is very happy that the US took over, and their biggest fear is that the US will pull out and leave them defenceless.
The Nazis were rounding up Jews, homosexuals, etc and killing them. I'm not sure how common that knowledge was during the actual war, but anyway the US soldiers aren't doing that either.
Yes there are some Iraqis, and some foreigners, who are so insane that they don't care about any of the above.
If you are an extreme Muslim, you really believe that women need to be veiled, women need to obey their husbands and stay at home, and all countries must become Muslim (the whole world must submit to the peace of Allah). The US is successfully exporting its culture (movies, etc) and that's a crime. The US won't let the extreme Muslims kill all the Jews in Israel, and that's a crime. It is war between the extreme Muslims and the US, which is why extreme Muslim terrorists tried to blow up the World Trade Centre in the first place and succeeded with the airplanes on 9.11 in the second place.
Plus there are even Iraqis who are so insane they are offended because Saddam Hussein and his government were deposed. What can you do about those. Just kill them I guess.
Tony Blair said that 5000 Iraqi kids were starving to death, each month, under the Hussein government. The average Iraqi doesn't want that back.
Or are the Iraq fighters cowards because they are not using there crappy guns against US laser guided cluster bombs?
I thought the US was using "precision" bombs, even things like bombs filled with concrete instead of explosive (drop it from 30.000 feet and take out one building instead of one neighbourhood). Cluster bombs are not precision things and I don't think they are laser guided.
If you ask me they are cowards because they kidnap nurses and contractors and saw off their heads with knives. Wow, so brave. One could argue that the guerilla attacks on actual soldiers are brave, but then I'm not sure that insane people can be usefully described by the word "brave".
I don't think you're looking into the history well enough, or deep enough. France didn't help the colonists for the sake of Americans, they did it as a part of their continued war against the UK. The United States didn't help France for France, they did it because they knew that Hitler would almost certainly conquor every country in Europe, and continue to expand across certain Atlantic Oceans. If Germany wasn't defeated as quickly as it was, they would have finished their work on The Bomb. (you know which one) and they would used it, the US would have used theirs, and boom, we're all here today living in caves with three legs see?
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That's not too far away. I think I will wait for the 9th release because usually when I upgrade some of my extensions are out of date and I have to reinstall them. This usually turns out to be a mess.
- Danny
The vast majority of security issues that exist in Firefox 0.x also exist in Mozilla 1.x and Netscape 7.x. It's not like hitting 1.0 magically improves code quality.
My server
They just revolved.
"The new wave is not value-added; it's garbage-subtracted" - Esther Dyson, Dec 1994
Hahaha. You are hilarious dude. How do you suppose those powerplants and waterworks got broken in the first place?
Yes, I suppose they are concerned that the US will pull out, but that's because we already fucked everything up for them. Naturally, they are now concerned that their fucked-over infrastructure is not enough to support them without external help.
If you are an extreme Muslim, you really believe that women need to be veiled, women need to obey their husbands and stay at home, and all countries must become Muslim (the whole world must submit to the peace of Allah). The US is successfully exporting its culture (movies, etc) and that's a crime. The US won't let the extreme Muslims kill all the Jews in Israel, and that's a crime. It is war between the extreme Muslims and the US, which is why extreme Muslim terrorists tried to blow up the World Trade Centre in the first place and succeeded with the airplanes on 9.11 in the second place.
Well, alright, but what does that have to do with our overthrow of the secular government in Iraq?
Then again, I'm just a troll.
Yeah, you are.
My other first post is car post.
Actually, the French version has already surrendered to the German version.
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Goddamn, I wish I had modpoints today. That deserves at least +3 Insightful.
a very hard baguette and a big white flag.
Assuming it's the same size as the CTF one, it may not be that bad for mêlée attacks, actually. (Yes, I had to put the accents. We're talking about the French.)
And in French, baguette is also used to mean "magic wand." Expecto Bansheeum! Finite Ammunition! Accio Flag!
Good point, the Soviet contribution is underrated in almost any discussion of WWII. If Germany had only had to fight a one front war in Europe, things might've turned out terribly differently.
The attempted Nazi invasion of Stalingrad cost them dearly. Hitler apparently never brushed up on Napoleon's mistakes.
Jesus, how OT am I? Umm, I did a clean reinstall of win2k on my Dad's old PIII-400 tower last week. Stuck firefox and thunderbird on it, and he couldn't believe how zippy it was. He's a bright guy, so when I told him about the security benefits of the alternatives he was all for it.
BTW, before the clean reinstall he was thinking of buying a brand-new computer b/c the PIII was "too slow". All he uses is the web, email, and the occasional ssh to a server from work. Most consumers are waaaay too quick to jump to newer hardware when they don't really need it.
I'd suggest you don't use Slashdot as your only news source, or you will suffer permanent brain damage.
The Allies consisted of the Brits and the Americans.
I'm sure the hundreds of thousands of Australians and New Zealanders who died during the war are turning in their grave.
Actually not, given the proportion of attacks that are targeted at civilians to cause fear and intimidation... No matter how badly Micheal Moore wants you to beleive that Iraq is in the midst of some guerrila insurgency for great justice, terrorism in Iraq is real.
FF runs as the local user, which for windows 99.9% of the time is in the administrator group, discounting work computers with strict domain settings. That means FF fucked, computer fucked.
I find it interesting that someone actually marked my posting as a troll. I don't understand how posting facts correcting someones complete falsehoods a troll. Unless the moderator is someone who is afraid of the truth? Sheesh!
-- I ignore anonymous replies to my comments and postings.
To be honest, I wouldn't pay much attention to what the moderators think. When I moderate, I don't pay much attention to what I think either.
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
We say the same thing about the warm sludge you drink, so I think it's just a matter of perspective.
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Napoleon was French
Wrong! He was a Corsican. The French only win wars if they are led by a foreigner.
Plus there are even Iraqis who are so insane they are offended because Saddam Hussein and his government were deposed. What can you do about those. Just kill them I guess.
We've apparently killed 100,000 of them so far.
The French didn't exactly resist the Nazi's moving into France. In fact, an open arms invitation is not the same as taking up arms.
Don't forget aboot the Canadians eh.
They were getting mowed down while the Americans were still denying there was even a World War.
Who are they terrorising in Iraq anyway?
What business is it of yours? The obvious answer of course is keeping that oil pipeline going.
Napoleon was French
Wrong! He was a Corsican. The French only win wars if they are led by a foreigner.
I have tried to find something to say but...
I do not have anything intelligent to reply to this statement...
Maybe because to discuss and have arguement, a French consider that both sides must have valuable point of views...
The only problem is that most American that bash France or French do not have any real argument to do so...
So I suppose we will stay quiet so that you can make it pass for arrogance
A French living in Tokyo (American please read: "A smoking arrogant hasbeen frog living in the land of funny yellow monkeys that cannot even speak a word of English, euh American...")
William the Conqueror conquered England, and he definately was from France, which counters your second statement. As well, they kicked the English off of the continent in the mid 1500's. I am sure if we look, we can find a few more wars they have won. But I agree, they haven't fared too well lately. (As Billy Conally said, "you know, the French have planted trees along the Champs d'Elise? I suppose that is so the Germans can march in the shade next time.")
But it doesn't negate the fact that France kept a lot of British troops and ships off of America's backs during the American Revolution by engaging the British all over the world and not just in America. A quick check also shows that at least half the forces that took part in the Battle of Yorktown were French.
So in the end, the truth is, when America helped in retaking France in WWII, it was sort of a 'returning the favour' kind of thing.
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I don't want to display my previously visited URLs to onlookers as I type in the URL for some website. Mozilla suite makes this easy to accomplish--simply turn off the autocomplete feature.
How do I accomplish the same thing in Firefox? A few notes:
I figured there were some more skilled Firefox users here who might know how to do this.
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... but not because they necessarily believed in the Americans' cause. Rather, French assistance to the American revolutionaries was more for the purpose of hurting the British.
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But on target, none the less.
another fool is here
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Yeah, you are.
Yes, I am.
-Derek
Treat me like a marketing stat, and I'll treat your movie like a series of ones and zeros
Hahaha. You are hilarious dude.
If you say so. I don't think this is funny though.
How do you suppose those powerplants and waterworks got broken in the first place?
Some of them were damaged when the war was fought. Others were just simply broken because the Iraqi government was so screwed up. The people in Iraq were really used to totally unreliable utilities.
Also, insurgents are sabotaging things like oil pipelines and utilities. They don't want the average Iraqi to be happy to have the US troops there. They also do things like blowing up little kids (the US soldiers were giving out candy, so I guess to an extreme Muslim fanatic that means they make a great example to make Iraqis tell their kids to run away from US soldiers).
Well, alright, but what does that have to do with our overthrow of the secular government in Iraq?
Sorry, guess that wasn't clear. I was dividing up the people in Iraq into three major classes: the average guys who appreciate having the dictator gone, the extreme Muslim fanatics who already hated the US anyway, and the crazy pro-Hussein guys. I should have added a fourth category: people who didn't hate the US before the war, but lost family members to errant bombs or errant bullets and so now hate the US. Mr Kerry and his friends would have you believe there are very many of the last category but I am not so sure.
The average Iraqi is glad to have US forces there. But there are plenty of the US haters there too to cause trouble. The biggest problem is that the US cannot prevent trouble, just try to fight it and clean up after it.
5000 kids per month were starving to death. Saddam Hussein made people disappear. Hussein's sons raped and killed women. Thousands were buried in mass graves. The average Iraqi is happy this stuff isn't going on anymore.
Also, the average Iraqi is not a complete idiot. Before the US troops invaded, they were all told that the US troops were coming to rape all the women, blow up all the mosques, kill all the kids and probably eat them too, etc. None of this stuff happened. So do you think that the average Iraqi is pissed off having US soldiers in Iraq?
The average Iraqi is probably pissed off that the insurgents are blowing stuff and people up. Many of them probably want the US troops out so that the insurgents will leave them the hell alone. Once the elections are held and the US pulls out, I wonder if the insurgents will still keep blowing stuff up.
Why don't you try it? If you configure it not to delete your messages off the server, or if you use IMAP, it's a no-risk trial. It's never crashed on me, the spam filter works well, and I've switched to using it almost exclusively.
Well said there ! - For an Anonymous Coward that is
How many beans make five, anyhow ?
Get your hillbilly ass off the moonshine or meth or whatever you are smoking, and actually learn what you are talking about.
No reason to be so rude.
All kinds of horrible things go on all over the world. Take a peek at North Korea (to bring out the canonical example). We are not doing anything about them. We are not the World Police.
You went from "We invaded Iraq because Muslim terrorists hate us", to "We invaded Iraq because it was an awful place, and the people are better off now." Even stipulating that the people are, in fact, better off now (which I do not believe), I maintain that it is not the role of the US to unilaterally invade countries to "clean them up".
Jordan
"Re:Karma suicide (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on 16:22 28 October 2004 (#10653128)
-1 Trolling fucking MacTard.
At least that's the impression you're trying to create. Personally, I don't believe you could afford a Mac. I doubt your mother makes enough money as a prostitute to buy you any kind of computer.
I think you're a 12 year old Romanian script kiddie with a stolen account, an hilariously bad command of the English language and a number of developmental problems.
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Its AC comment scored 0 as reply to my -1 or something comment.
Mozilla or Firefox has no hope...