Exactly... Film industry here in BC threatened to leave unless they got tax breaks. That's blackmail too IMO. Business does this all the time. It's their right to withdraw operations if the environment doesn't suit them. Nothing to see here people. Let's not scream bloody murder over this because we're fanboys...
Market share cannot grow at even a linear rate forever. In fact I'd argue that it's logarithmic over time, and this is expected. TFA talks about market share growth declining. That means their market share didn't grow as fast this year as last year.
That I can agree with - I really like the way Gnome makes you type in the root password whenever you need to do anything to the system.
Although I could see the day a popup that looks exactly like the Fedora Root popup with a bluecurve theme that looks exactly like like the Fedora popup.
Today you might only trick one user in the world who is stupid enough to fall for that.
What I'm referring to is that Gnome treats SMB shares kinda the same way it would treat an ftp server - you can't execute a file off a remote share unless you mount it. If trying to implement a Linux workstation solution in an office that has SMB shares, that can be a pain trying to explain to users that you need to first mount the share to work on their Word doc.....
I don't know what version of XP you've installed, but when I install it, I explicitly aren't allowed a blank password for Administrator during the install process. Anyone that's left a blank password on the Administrator account has done so explicitly.
Just to point out that on a basic Fedora install, no one but root can mount SMB shares. IMO it's stupid that you can browse the share, but need to copy the file locally before you do anything with it.
XP isn't the only OS with flaws like that y'know.
Not that I'm a windows fanboy, but it's not the only OS with flaws.
In my first point, it's very true... On a normal XP install that doesn't use the classic login, you don't see Administrator on the login screen as an available login. You need to use TweakXP to activate that user as a login on that screen.
Once you add a machine to a domain, all bets are off. You can login easily as a local or domain admin, but if it's on a domain, you assume there's a domain admin there to make sure things go the way they are supposed to.
Actually, in XP a Windows user is in the administrator group, and the Administrator user is actually prevented from an easy login on most XP machines. So the user you log into a XP machine with is in the equivalent of a user in the root or wheel group IMO...
It's silly that I can browse my local file system, and I can browse a remote SMB file system, but I can't run a file off a remote SMB share. I like how Windows treats SMB shares, and really, Gnome should automatically mount the share, and run the file, be it an mp3, or a document file or whatever.
Multimedia Systems Selector was already there, as was dictionary, but both have been tweaked a bit.
Really, gnome has bigger problems. Try playing a mp3 off an smb share without mounting the smb share. Not allowed.
Try listing the shares on a machine.
Wireless suppoert is finally getting better - NetworkManager is rad
Isn't Safari based on KHTML? Isn't Konqueror also based on KHTML?
I guess you can't just go and install Safari on KDE, but you can use Konqueror which will parse html the same way Safari will... I'd say that it's "Close Enough". JMO...
Sorry about the delay.. Your response was well thought out and deserves a counter:
1) Gnome. Pain in the ass to modify menu in FC3. It can be done if I fart around with a bunch of configs. Last time i tried i ended up with a blank menu though.
2) Yes, but X11 users are by far the minority. Desktop switching doesn't make linux superior for anyone but X11 users. The few. Truth is most users are too dense to use it. I like it. Doesn't mean others do.
3) All I'm saying is that of all the users I've introduced to FF, most ignore tabbed browsing.
4) Windows scripting host gives you some decent scripting on a windows box. It's not too hard.
lol Corel had a lot of money at one point too, and we all remember how the Corel Linux distro ended up.
IMO, Google's shooting itself in the foot with a browser and a distro, and in a couple years we'll be seeing news releases that state that Google's abandoned those projects.
That said, I'm sure the OSS community would welcome the extra investment from google.
I use FC3, and I like it, but I would not recommend it to an end user for two reasons: 1) as soon as they can't run the app that came with their camera or scanner or mp3 player, they are pissed. 2) Killer app: Quicken / Simply Accounting. Most small businesses I know that would be a good cantidate cannot be converted because they rely on these apps. Sure GNUMeric is slick, but it's not up to par with Quicken/Quickbooks/Simply Accounting.
-themable: Stardock has some awesome stuff for skinning etc. -unified control center: mmc??? -launch menu IS NOT SIMPLE! I use FC3, and can't for the life of me figure out how to add applications (I'm locked out of it by the OS). I know you can type applications:/// in the file browser, but the ability to add a shortcut is locked out. That blows. I want to add a link to Zend's PHP studio and can't do it. -multiple desktops: XP Powertoys has a free one that works pretty good. Those who want it can add it. If it's unpopular on Windows, then there might be something wrong with the mentality that it's actually a good feature? -built in browsers with tabbed browsing. I've installed Firefox on everyone's PC that I know. They all love it. I show them how to use tabbed browsing. I don't see any of them actually using it. -scriptability? wtf does this have to do with end users?
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Yeah, because people too cheap to upgrade a 7 year old OS is at the top of most people's customer list.
Why not support 95 and 3.1 users too while you're at it?
Bitching about lack of win2k support would probably be okay because many businesses still use it, but 98 and ME? C'mon...
Maybe we'll finally have CSS3 support. Being able to referencing parent nodes would really nice.
Exactly... Film industry here in BC threatened to leave unless they got tax breaks. That's blackmail too IMO. Business does this all the time. It's their right to withdraw operations if the environment doesn't suit them. Nothing to see here people. Let's not scream bloody murder over this because we're fanboys...
as Canadian albums do not sell.
Tell that Celine Dion, Bryan Adams, Shania Twain, The Hip, 54-40, etc.
IMO they do just fine. Really, we have 1/10th the population of the US, yet our artists can hold their own...
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't the "immunodeficency part" a part of AIDS, not HIV? AFAIK AIDS != HIV, and HIV is a precursor to AIDS...
Market share cannot grow at even a linear rate forever. In fact I'd argue that it's logarithmic over time, and this is expected. TFA talks about market share growth declining. That means their market share didn't grow as fast this year as last year.
IMO that's acceptable.
That I can agree with - I really like the way Gnome makes you type in the root password whenever you need to do anything to the system.
Although I could see the day a popup that looks exactly like the Fedora Root popup with a bluecurve theme that looks exactly like like the Fedora popup.
Today you might only trick one user in the world who is stupid enough to fall for that.
What I'm referring to is that Gnome treats SMB shares kinda the same way it would treat an ftp server - you can't execute a file off a remote share unless you mount it. If trying to implement a Linux workstation solution in an office that has SMB shares, that can be a pain trying to explain to users that you need to first mount the share to work on their Word doc.....
I don't know what version of XP you've installed, but when I install it, I explicitly aren't allowed a blank password for Administrator during the install process. Anyone that's left a blank password on the Administrator account has done so explicitly.
Just to point out that on a basic Fedora install, no one but root can mount SMB shares. IMO it's stupid that you can browse the share, but need to copy the file locally before you do anything with it.
XP isn't the only OS with flaws like that y'know.
Not that I'm a windows fanboy, but it's not the only OS with flaws.
In my first point, it's very true... On a normal XP install that doesn't use the classic login, you don't see Administrator on the login screen as an available login. You need to use TweakXP to activate that user as a login on that screen. Once you add a machine to a domain, all bets are off. You can login easily as a local or domain admin, but if it's on a domain, you assume there's a domain admin there to make sure things go the way they are supposed to.
Actually, in XP a Windows user is in the administrator group, and the Administrator user is actually prevented from an easy login on most XP machines. So the user you log into a XP machine with is in the equivalent of a user in the root or wheel group IMO...
I think I got hit by the same thing actually... I never use IE on my XP box...
Well I'm on Linux now. Let's see them get spyware on this laptop lol...
Notice how there's an ad for Vonage right underneath the article? Priceless.
:)
I use firefox with the adblock extension enabled - I don't see the ad
It's silly that I can browse my local file system, and I can browse a remote SMB file system, but I can't run a file off a remote SMB share. I like how Windows treats SMB shares, and really, Gnome should automatically mount the share, and run the file, be it an mp3, or a document file or whatever.
Multimedia Systems Selector was already there, as was dictionary, but both have been tweaked a bit. Really, gnome has bigger problems. Try playing a mp3 off an smb share without mounting the smb share. Not allowed. Try listing the shares on a machine. Wireless suppoert is finally getting better - NetworkManager is rad
Safari is Mac-Only.
Isn't Safari based on KHTML? Isn't Konqueror also based on KHTML?
I guess you can't just go and install Safari on KDE, but you can use Konqueror which will parse html the same way Safari will... I'd say that it's "Close Enough". JMO...
Sorry about the delay.. Your response was well thought out and deserves a counter: 1) Gnome. Pain in the ass to modify menu in FC3. It can be done if I fart around with a bunch of configs. Last time i tried i ended up with a blank menu though. 2) Yes, but X11 users are by far the minority. Desktop switching doesn't make linux superior for anyone but X11 users. The few. Truth is most users are too dense to use it. I like it. Doesn't mean others do. 3) All I'm saying is that of all the users I've introduced to FF, most ignore tabbed browsing. 4) Windows scripting host gives you some decent scripting on a windows box. It's not too hard.
lol Corel had a lot of money at one point too, and we all remember how the Corel Linux distro ended up.
IMO, Google's shooting itself in the foot with a browser and a distro, and in a couple years we'll be seeing news releases that state that Google's abandoned those projects.
That said, I'm sure the OSS community would welcome the extra investment from google.
I actually found FreeBSD an easier way to get into *nix than Linux personally. FreeBSD made installing stuff so easy. No dependancy hell.
/usr/ports/whatever/whatever
cd
make install clean
how much easier could it be?
I use FC3, and I like it, but I would not recommend it to an end user for two reasons: 1) as soon as they can't run the app that came with their camera or scanner or mp3 player, they are pissed. 2) Killer app: Quicken / Simply Accounting. Most small businesses I know that would be a good cantidate cannot be converted because they rely on these apps. Sure GNUMeric is slick, but it's not up to par with Quicken/Quickbooks/Simply Accounting.
-themable: Stardock has some awesome stuff for skinning etc.
-unified control center: mmc???
-launch menu IS NOT SIMPLE! I use FC3, and can't for the life of me figure out how to add applications (I'm locked out of it by the OS). I know you can type applications:/// in the file browser, but the ability to add a shortcut is locked out. That blows. I want to add a link to Zend's PHP studio and can't do it.
-multiple desktops: XP Powertoys has a free one that works pretty good. Those who want it can add it. If it's unpopular on Windows, then there might be something wrong with the mentality that it's actually a good feature?
-built in browsers with tabbed browsing. I've installed Firefox on everyone's PC that I know. They all love it. I show them how to use tabbed browsing. I don't see any of them actually using it.
-scriptability? wtf does this have to do with end users?
Yes, but in order to succeed on the desktop, this is part of the uphill battle Linux faces.
I can deal with it. My mom cannot.
Hahaha... I hope the mods catch that one - that was funny lol...
Yeah, but what an amazing run up to that last episode it was. The effects and storyline is only surpassed by tng IMO...
Admittedly, setting up many wireless cards can be a real PITA.
I run FC3 right now. I have to use ndiswrapper to setup my wireless card, and every time I get a kernel update I need to reinstall ndiswrapper.
Tell me, wouldn't we all bitch if windows update made you reinstall your NIC drivers?