Sapphiretech is able to build a state-of-the-art ATI Radeon 9700 Pro without any active cooling. Seems nearly unbelievable if you compare these to the new FX cooling monsters.
Combine these with a good, noise dampened case, Verax coolers and a Barracuda V and you should get a PC that is much more quiet than most of the PCs on the market and faster than these too.
IMHO it's not needed, that Grandma can *install* it, she just has to *use* it.
Of course you're kind of right lamenting, that the question "how can 5 pcs simultaniously record tv programs" is somewhat early when we don't have a single PC doing this under linux now.
But now to my point:
I don't understand, that major linux distribution builders don't care about this thing.
A Mandrake PVR edition could be wonderful. They could compile the kernel, the drivers, XFree, mythtv, etc., so that everything fits together and just works out of the box.
Or look at sth. like Norton Ghost. There's not that much magic behind this. Cloning partitions or disks. Or doing full backups or you hd. You can do nearly everything that Ghost does under Linux. Someone just has to put it together, build a GUI above it, and then sell it for 20$ less than ghost.
I guess, that there is a market for a lot of these special purpose linux distros.
A linux based PVR may be one of this, a linux based cd/dvd backup program, a linux based ghost clone, a linux based partition magic clone, etc.
I don't think this is a real problem. They have MandrakeClub exclusive servers for commercial software (like StarOffice for silver members only) already.
Of course Mandrake has to pay the bandwidth for their exclusive servers. But bandwidth is not that expensive any more. At least it is not too expensive to build a "pay for download" service on it.
Don't get me wrong, I love Mandrake. But Mandrake has failed because they made some (rather big) mistakes and the community made the big mistake of freeloading their ISOs and not joining the club.
I'm somewhat sceptical that this will change.
We need some way to set up a way to support Mandrake. See my other posting for my ideas about this.
How can anyone call the business plan of company that just filed for bankruptcy protection good?
They must have done something wrong. For example spending more money than they were earning.
Mandrake made some serious mistakes. Their e-learning business was a mess. But even with their distribution they made the big mistake of giving their ISOs to everyone for free even before one could buy their box. They should have allowed access to their ISOs to clubmembers only (at minimum until the box is available in the shops).
I wouldn't join the club (if I hadn't done this before...), cause I fear that I simply throw my money out off the window. I wouldn't buy a distro box from them cause the next version (9.1) is in beta now.
But I want to help Mandrake. But I don't want my money to go to some creditor (although he will see this differently...),
I WANT MANDRAKE TO CONTINUE THEIR FABULOUS DISTRO!
So what does Mandrake need?
We need someone to setup a banking account, where one can deposit money and say: If Mandrake succeeds, I'll buy a Mandrake club membership from this money or buy the box or buy some software from them or simply donate (which of course is stupid, because the club membership means that 100% of your money directly goes to the company you want to support).
( I think it's not enough to sign some petition, you'll have to money where your mouth is to convince a new investor and/or the old creditors. Putting your money where your mouth is, is the source of all problems for Mandrake: zillions of people who tell how good Mandrake is but only a few thousand willing to support them via the MandrakeClub).
If Mandrake fails to continue their distro, you'll get your money back and spend the rest of your life whining on Slashdot what a great distro Mandrake was...
I get a lot of buy/sell signals and the server status every day via both SMS AND mail. So *I*'m rather sure, that SMS reception is very good in Europe. Most of the time the SMS is nearly as fast as the mail.
Remember, we in Europe sent millions of SMSes per day when in the US it was impossible to send an SMS between two different providers.
OK, you can download the ISO for free. Fine. Fair.
You can buy the box, but weeks (!) after the ISOs are ready.
So the time the box gets available, I (or some friend with broadband connection) has downloaded it already. Why the heck should I buy the box (unless I want to support Mandrake)? I don't need a manual. I don't need the CDs.
Mandrake has to change this.
Full ISOs are fine, but I would give them to Club members exclusivly at least for 4 to 6 weeks.
Then the box has some weeks to get into the stores and then you can add a free download for everyone.
Remember that a normal club membership (bronze level) isn't more expensive than one box one time a year. So at least for me it's a bargain.
If Apple has really done this with a wrapper, could this mean, that we may get a lot more qt programs ported to MacOS X?!? Another reason to buy a Mac?
>Apple may have just sparked not only a browser war, >but a rejuvination of computing without Microsoft. >I won't be surprised to see 30-40% of the web using >non-IE browsers within a year.
I would.
Apple has kind of 5 % market share, other OSes sth. like 2 % (of course it's even lower...).
So these 2% have to use a non-IE-browser, simply because that's not available.
And these 5% Apple users won't switch, as Safari is still beta and IE for the time being is better (KHTML still needs a lot of work to become a good as Gecko now is). So don't expect Safari to be the standard browser on OSX sooner than 9 to 12 months.
Netscape/Mozillas market share on Windows is below 10%. While I love Mozilla/Phoenix I don't think there will be too many people swhitching from IE because the reasons to switch aren't big enough. IE works on all of the pages OK. That's Good Enough (tm).
If we can get near 30% market share the big move has to be AOL switching to Gecko.
Most other browser will stay below 1% Market share. Don't get me wrong, but I think that Netscape 7.0 is installed on more computers than Mozilla. There's (of course) not a single (technical) reason for this, but, hey, what technical knowledge do you expect from a normal computer user?
I'm rather sure that the main problem for Linux now isn't the lack software (despite games perhaps) but the problem finding hardware in a shop that works with Linux. You'll always have to check the web before buying anything and find out if it works, how it works, etc. Sometimes you even have to monitor/ask the developer mailing lists to get reliable information.
Even real commodity hardware like printers or ADSL adapters still have problems under Linux.
I don't have a clue how to change this. Main problem: so many hardware verndors and so many distribution makers. Perhaps OpenLinux sets up some kind of certification program.
I second this. Try out the John Peel shows. You can listen to the shows time shifted. You'll find many artists, from Africa to the US, from the thirties to today.
That's the main problem for adoption of arch, subversion or Aegis. All of these lack support for NetBeans, Eclipse and the other important IDEs.
I guess the moment one of the next generation version controls systems gets good IDE support will be the break-through for this IMHO needed technology improvement.
Yepp, just another post from a happy Madrake Club member:
Remember: You get StarOffice for free, if you are a silver member. You can vote for the most important missing rpms. You get really good support. You get some rather big discounts on things like VMware, Tramsgaming stuff, etc.
It's REALLY worth the money IMHO and a wonderful way if you prefer ISO downloads to their CD boxes (the download is available sooner (which IMHO may be one reason for their financial problems) than the boxes and I want the money to go to Mandrake directly instead of 30-50% to Amazon or some other reseller, the CD maker and the book printer.)
And remember: Mandrake is a lot more open source friendly and fair to the community than e.g. OpenLinux.
It' s extremly important to remember, that MS marketshare is as high as it is, since they never (technically) cared about privacy. (of course they claimed, that it costs them gazillions each year, but who cares). If I needed MS office to continue working on a spreadsheet at home, it was there essentially for free. Now things start to change and I see people considering OpenOffice, which have never considered it until MS introduced their activation stuff.
I hope the same will start with their OS.
Sometimes monopolies begin to tumble when they get too greedy.
If MS' profit margins (> 80% with Office and Windows) drop to a non monopoly normal level, say 30% (which is rather high btw.), MS wouldn't earn a single penny, cause they loose so much money with most of their other activities (XBox, PocketPC, MSN, etc.).
So everything that forces MS to drop prices is a good thing. It levels the playing field for their competitors (Palm, Symbian, Sony, AOL,...) and will therefore keep the competition going in all markets MS doesn't (yet) have a monopoly (which is good for everyone).
But this is really big task: MS has those profit margins right now and has some billions of dollar in cash. Don't expect an empire that big and wealthy to stumple in a few months!
Especially the Athlon models could win a lot in terms of quietness. Remember: The mobile versions are relativly similar in price.
I prefer a quieter system for 100 MHz more. You barely notice the 100 MHz, but you'll notice a CPU, that consumes 30 Watts compared to a CPU that consumes 60 Watts.
Slashdot Mirror
Yepp would be encrypted.
bye egghat.
Does anybody know of any IP/POT-gateways like the one mentioned in the article, that are outside the US? For example in Germany? In the UK?
TIA
egghat.
Don't know.
Who is Norman Vincent?
(My) John Peel is a British Radio DJ. Check out John Peel's homepage.
Bye egghat.
Sapphiretech is able to build a state-of-the-art ATI Radeon 9700 Pro without any active cooling. Seems nearly unbelievable if you compare these to the new FX cooling monsters.
Check it out for yourself.
Combine these with a good, noise dampened case, Verax coolers and a Barracuda V and you should get a PC that is much more quiet than most of the PCs on the market and faster than these too.
Bye egghat.
IMHO it's not needed, that Grandma can *install* it, she just has to *use* it.
Of course you're kind of right lamenting, that the question "how can 5 pcs simultaniously record tv programs" is somewhat early when we don't have a single PC doing this under linux now.
But now to my point:
I don't understand, that major linux distribution builders don't care about this thing.
A Mandrake PVR edition could be wonderful. They could compile the kernel, the drivers, XFree, mythtv, etc., so that everything fits together and just works out of the box.
Or look at sth. like Norton Ghost. There's not that much magic behind this. Cloning partitions or disks. Or doing full backups or you hd. You can do nearly everything that Ghost does under Linux. Someone just has to put it together, build a GUI above it, and then sell it for 20$ less than ghost.
I guess, that there is a market for a lot of these special purpose linux distros.
A linux based PVR may be one of this, a linux based cd/dvd backup program, a linux based ghost clone, a linux based partition magic clone, etc.
Bye egghat.
PopFile rocks. Works good and installation is a breeze.
For me the big plus is that it's
a) a filter between mailclient and server, so I don't have to change anything at the server side
and
b) it's a Perl solution and it's cross platform. Perfect for me as a dual booter.
Bye egghat.
I don't think this is a real problem. They have MandrakeClub exclusive servers for commercial software (like StarOffice for silver members only) already.
Of course Mandrake has to pay the bandwidth for their exclusive servers. But bandwidth is not that expensive any more. At least it is not too expensive to build a "pay for download" service on it.
Bye egghat.
why the heck should this change?!?
Don't get me wrong, I love Mandrake. But Mandrake has failed because they made some (rather big) mistakes and the community made the big mistake of freeloading their ISOs and not joining the club.
I'm somewhat sceptical that this will change.
We need some way to set up a way to support Mandrake. See my other posting for my ideas about this.
Bye egghat.
How can anyone call the business plan of company that just filed for bankruptcy protection good?
They must have done something wrong. For example spending more money than they were earning.
Mandrake made some serious mistakes. Their e-learning business was a mess. But even with their distribution they made the big mistake of giving their ISOs to everyone for free even before one could buy their box.
They should have allowed access to their ISOs to clubmembers only (at minimum until the box is available in the shops).
If you are interested what I would do to support Mandrake now read my other article in this thread.
Bye egghat
I wouldn't join the club (if I hadn't done this before ...), cause I fear that I simply throw my money out off the window.
...),
...
I wouldn't buy a distro box from them cause the next version (9.1) is in beta now.
But I want to help Mandrake. But I don't want my money to go to some creditor (although he will see this differently
I WANT MANDRAKE TO CONTINUE THEIR FABULOUS DISTRO!
So what does Mandrake need?
We need someone to setup a banking account, where one can deposit money and say: If Mandrake succeeds, I'll buy a Mandrake club membership from this money or buy the box or buy some software from them or simply donate (which of course is stupid, because the club membership means that 100% of your money directly goes to the company you want to support).
( I think it's not enough to sign some petition, you'll have to money where your mouth is to convince a new investor and/or the old creditors. Putting your money where your mouth is, is the source of all problems for Mandrake: zillions of people who tell how good Mandrake is but only a few thousand willing to support them via the MandrakeClub).
If Mandrake fails to continue their distro, you'll get your money back and spend the rest of your life whining on Slashdot what a great distro Mandrake was
Bye egghat.
I get a lot of buy/sell signals and the server status every day via both SMS AND mail. So *I*'m rather sure, that SMS reception is very good in Europe. Most of the time the SMS is nearly as fast as the mail.
Remember, we in Europe sent millions of SMSes per day when in the US it was impossible to send an SMS between two different providers.
Bye egghat.
OK, you can download the ISO for free. Fine. Fair.
You can buy the box, but weeks (!) after the ISOs are ready.
So the time the box gets available, I (or some friend with broadband connection) has downloaded it already. Why the heck should I buy the box (unless I want to support Mandrake)? I don't need a manual. I don't need the CDs.
Mandrake has to change this.
Full ISOs are fine, but I would give them to Club members exclusivly at least for 4 to 6 weeks.
Then the box has some weeks to get into the stores and then you can add a free download for everyone.
Remember that a normal club membership (bronze level) isn't more expensive than one box one time a year. So at least for me it's a bargain.
Bye egghat.
(silver level MandrakeClub member).
see for yourself.
...
Mandrake files for bankruptcy..
Sad to see this happening to Mandrake as well as seeing the article modded highest on Slashdot is plain wrong
Bye egghat.
If Apple has really done this with a wrapper, could this mean, that we may get a lot more qt programs ported to MacOS X?!? Another reason to buy a Mac?
Bye egghat.
>Apple may have just sparked not only a browser war,
...).
>but a rejuvination of computing without Microsoft.
>I won't be surprised to see 30-40% of the web using
>non-IE browsers within a year.
I would.
Apple has kind of 5 % market share, other OSes sth. like 2 % (of course it's even lower
So these 2% have to use a non-IE-browser, simply because that's not available.
And these 5% Apple users won't switch, as Safari is still beta and IE for the time being is better (KHTML still needs a lot of work to become a good as Gecko now is). So don't expect Safari to be the standard browser on OSX sooner than 9 to 12 months.
Netscape/Mozillas market share on Windows is below 10%. While I love Mozilla/Phoenix I don't think there will be too many people swhitching from IE because the reasons to switch aren't big enough. IE works on all of the pages OK. That's Good Enough (tm).
If we can get near 30% market share the big move has to be AOL switching to Gecko.
Most other browser will stay below 1% Market share. Don't get me wrong, but I think that Netscape 7.0 is installed on more computers than Mozilla. There's (of course) not a single (technical) reason for this, but, hey, what technical knowledge do you expect from a normal computer user?
Bye egghat.
like those "certified for Windows XP".
I'm rather sure that the main problem for Linux now isn't the lack software (despite games perhaps) but the problem finding hardware in a shop that works with Linux. You'll always have to check the web before buying anything and find out if it works, how it works, etc. Sometimes you even have to monitor/ask the developer mailing lists to get reliable information.
Even real commodity hardware like printers or ADSL adapters still have problems under Linux.
I don't have a clue how to change this. Main problem: so many hardware verndors and so many distribution makers. Perhaps OpenLinux sets up some kind of certification program.
Bye egghat.
I second this. Try out the John Peel shows. You can listen to the shows time shifted. You'll find many artists, from Africa to the US, from the thirties to today.
;-)
Here's the URL.
Sad, that this site only works with IE and Real Player.
Reading my sig might reveal how much I like this show
Bye egghat.
I have used "The Brain" while I was in Windows, but it was nearly useless as it didn't support the two most important things:
.docs or .xls.
a) Web browsing
it should now the sites you've visited, know your bookmarks and allow you to open everything you have found with a simple click.
b) E-Mail.
When it finds an E-Mail a simple double-click should be enough to open it in your mail, show you the thread it belongs to, etc.
I guess, that I'm not the only one, who has more important things in mails than in
Bye egghat.
That's the main problem for adoption of arch, subversion or Aegis. All of these lack support for NetBeans, Eclipse and the other important IDEs.
I guess the moment one of the next generation version controls systems gets good IDE support will be the break-through for this IMHO needed technology improvement.
Bye egghat.
Yepp, just another post from a happy Madrake Club member:
Remember: You get StarOffice for free, if you are a silver member. You can vote for the most important missing rpms. You get really good support. You get some rather big discounts on things like VMware, Tramsgaming stuff, etc.
It's REALLY worth the money IMHO and a wonderful way if you prefer ISO downloads to their CD boxes (the download is available sooner (which IMHO may be one reason for their financial problems) than the boxes and I want the money to go to Mandrake directly instead of 30-50% to Amazon or some other reseller, the CD maker and the book printer.)
And remember: Mandrake is a lot more open source friendly and fair to the community than e.g. OpenLinux.
Bye egghat.
Yeah.
It' s extremly important to remember, that MS marketshare is as high as it is, since they never (technically) cared about privacy. (of course they claimed, that it costs them gazillions each year, but who cares). If I needed MS office to continue working on a spreadsheet at home, it was there essentially for free. Now things start to change and I see people considering OpenOffice, which have never considered it until MS introduced their activation stuff.
I hope the same will start with their OS.
Sometimes monopolies begin to tumble when they get too greedy.
Bye egghat.
If MS' profit margins (> 80% with Office and Windows) drop to a non monopoly normal level, say 30% (which is rather high btw.), MS wouldn't earn a single penny, cause they loose so much money with most of their other activities (XBox, PocketPC, MSN, etc.).
...) and will therefore keep the competition going in all markets MS doesn't (yet) have a monopoly (which is good for everyone).
So everything that forces MS to drop prices is a good thing. It levels the playing field for their competitors (Palm, Symbian, Sony, AOL,
But this is really big task: MS has those profit margins right now and has some billions of dollar in cash. Don't expect an empire that big and wealthy to stumple in a few months!
Bye egghat.
Has anyone tried to do this?
Especially the Athlon models could win a lot in terms of quietness. Remember: The mobile versions are relativly similar in price.
I prefer a quieter system for 100 MHz more. You barely notice the 100 MHz, but you'll notice a CPU, that consumes 30 Watts compared to a CPU that consumes 60 Watts.
Bye egghat.
The problem with this is simple: It's the best deal you can make.
;-)
I wonder, how MS manages to make prices THAT good
THAT is the interesting question for Linux distros in the next year!
I don't have the slightest clue what the answer will be.
Bye egghat.