that is entirely correct. however, is it possible he is one of the best because its so new? i mean, here at oklahoma state, we have one of the leading sports geography(and another guy is the same for music geography) folks around. this is mostly due to the fact that there arent many in existence. i mean, you coudl be a pro at 64 bit athlon chips, but youve probably only been around a few years in that case. probably a poor example, but you get the idea. are there other people who have been doing this for a while?
not that i disagree with you, but who's to say we are talking about adults? children do tend to do what theyre told, at least until they put great effort into doing the opposite in later years
that was mostly my point. i mean, sure, the market is heading that way as it always does. things are getting bigger and better. just seems ot me that i dont quite need that much power yet
what do i possibly need 256MB/1GHz with a 5.6" screen for? not a troll, im honestly curious. thats what i have at home in my desktop and it does all i need, sure. however, most of what i do coudl not be done on a 5.6" screen. maybe its just a little to early for this kind of tiny power or are there really pda-style apps that need this?
so long as you never kill me or anyone i know by driving drunk, im okay with all that you said. the problem is that most people arent as intelligent about it as you appear to be.
i hate govt control, but i also hate stupid people and what they do. i have no idea where the balance is.
i live in one of the wettest college towns around so i know a few folks that have had at least the old tech version of these things installed in their cars following dui's. one guy had it prevent him from driving because he had just eaten some baby carrots.
if they make the technology for this bulletproof(yeah, right) then i think its a reasonable idea. i SERIOUSLY doubt that it will be implemented properly.
as a side note, the laws are so screwed up in this town that its "safer" (as in not getting ticketed) to drive home than walk. they ticket more people for public intox for walking home than they pull over for dui. how much sense does that make? as someone who has NEVER driven anywhere near intoxicated, this angers me. i could have children here someday get killed because somebody wanted to avoid a ticket so they drove home drunk.
i understand that you were mostly joking about the usb key costing money, but thats why i dont have one yet. if i werent a broke married college senior(thats like triple redundant) i would have one. however, walmart now has a 128MB one for $35. so, those things are coming down in price pretty quickly. $35 isnt bad at all
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sure, sure, i agree that power/weight is more important. however, im gonna have to get my 63 galaxie some acceleration and to do so its gonna take some power. i like the car, so to get enough power for it, its probably going to take some not-so-natural aspiration and something bigger than the 289 in it(and a steady diet of fiberglass, perhaps). if you like SUV's(tho im not sure why ppl do) and you want power, you might check out the durango, i bet its one of the quickest. if you want power, 200hp in a talon is plenty to start with, i assure you.
besides, the guy i was responding to was saying that 340 is overkill for everything. in a durango, i bet it is surely not. that was my original point, along with teh fact that there are those of us who just like acceleration, not necessarily top speed. ive only had my nova up to 115, but its got some balls. just so happens i dont really care for fast, i like quick.
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There is an inverse relationship between performance and fuel efficiency
no. i dont care what you turned before you went to med school, this is not correct. its close, but no cigar.
98% or so of what you said was correct and the performance/fuel efficiency was pretty close. in reality, the more efficiently a car burns fuel, the more power it makes. now, along with this, the more fuel you burn the more power you make. so, most of the time when you see significant performance gains, they result in worse fuel economy simply because they are burning more fuel, not because they are burning it less efficiently(quite the opposite).
the end result appears very similar to burning fuel less efficiently simply because the mileage went down. a very simple mistake, ill give you that one. oh, one more thing you were right about taht i should mention: high hp engines do burn fuel less efficiently but make the power thru burning lots of fuel. this would easily appear to be an inverse relationship of performance/fuel efficiency
i think his point was that the fault lies with the original coder, not the thousands of them since that havent seen it. sure, the brick analogy works fine, but its the wrong point, imo. even at 4am, a good coder should know how to build good if blocks.
just get a matrox card. agp will get you, i think, up to 6 displays on one card? you can get old dual display 450's for pretty cheap now, too. not much for gaming, but i like it at work for coding.
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oh, come now. leave the bad language in high school.
Oh. is there an American round of the WRC now?
is it too much for your brain to comprehend that americans could like rally? im not saying we have a round of the wrc, but i didnt say that before, now did i? i just said there is a following here.
And the Viper? Fsck off! It's a piece of plastic junk with a TRUCK engine, that still gets outdragged by a TVR. The Viper is an embarrasment, as is the Corvette.
i had to do a little research on the TVR, but thats amusing that they used to have ford v8s and pinto 4 cylinders in them. as i still didnt find much about the (decidedly NOT german car, i was speaking of porsche) TVR, i cannot determine whether you are correct about the "outdragging." also, i didnt find much in the way of price, which i mentioned as a point. however, you do seem to need some straightening out in the mopar fact department. the viper v10 is nowhere near the same as mopar's truck v10. the 2004 Dodge 2004 Ram SRT-10 (not the truck v10)does indeed have the 500hp viper motor in it(now), but its a bit too much for the truck, as it tends to bend the frames. so, if the viper tends to outaccelerate and outcorner a few of the porsches for less money, which one is the embarrassment? im not sure how the vette is an embarrasment, either, woudl you care to enlighten me?
DONT even mention nitrous. yes, any fool can spray his car and have it last for a couple hundred miles like that. however, none of the cars mentioned above are in that category, are they? i fail to see how that applies. not just any fool can get 500 reliable hp.
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um... right. i hate SUB^HV's. so, im not sure where you were headed with that.
im not terribly comfortable in my 1G dsm. ive been in it for 5 hours at a time and ive lived thru it, but it doesnt mean i dont want more room. it surely cant take any more than two adults and 1-2 small children around. the vehicle i can take 6 people comfortably is my 63 galaxie. yeah, i paid $800 for it in nearly perfect running order and plans are looming for restoration. that, i assure you, is no SUV. however, you are correct in assuming i dont want to dent my image by driving a mini-van. first of all, they dont do anything well but haul kids and groceries, which my galaxie can do as well. second, they have huge blind spots and im convinced they lower your IQ 40pts just by driving them (yes, im including even myself in that). lastly, i LIKE old american cars. is that a problem? i intend to have at least 700hp in my nova someday and probably no more than 450 in the galaxie(its my wifes car, really).
btw, you want to talk about stupid commuter vehicles? how about down here in oklahoma where people drive 4500lb dually diesels to their office jobs every day? youre right, a *insert small foreign car here* will get that done much more effieciently. all im saying is that i like big american cars, but thats not all we drive. i have a 1.8L 92hp dsm for commuting.
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theres the history, but yes, i do believe they are at least mostly made in japan now. incidentally, i was not arguing that only stupid peopel drive big cars. i was arguing that not all the cars americans have are big. each car has a purpose. i love my 5000lb galaxie, but it doesnt get 1/4 of the mileage that i get with our eclipse. im not about to go cruisin in the dsm, tho. my 74 nova doesnt get much mileage, either, but im not about to race anybody without it. its just like i keep telling people about the OS holy wars: to each his own, they all have a purpose.
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did i or did i not mention f1? im pretty sure i did. not only that, but i woudl love to drive one. im not sure where ill find some blubber as i have none on me, but thanks for the head-up.
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my wife's 63 galaxie (ironically, shes a little 5'2" thing) could seat 6 people my size comfortably, tho it is a huge boat such as the parent of my post suggests, hehe.
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ah yes, i was curious if anybody knew that. i realize i hinted that it was an american car and perhaps that isnt completely true. you are mostly correct, im not sure i consider it an american either.
i own a 93 eclipse whose motor i installed from a 92 talon that i also own. it says mitsubishi right on the valve cover. okay, the quick story of the eagle talon/mitsubishi eclipse/plymouth laser is that chrysler and mistubishi got together to form diamond star motors(dsm) and pumped out about 100 billion of these little things that all look just alike. they were made in normal, illinois, USA. sure, japanese parts mostly, but made in usa at least. in 1989 when these little buggers started, they produced a 2.0L FWD turbo in the laser that pumped out 1.6hp/ci, not too shabby. later on, the eclipses were available in gst badging for about the same hp but with all wheel drive(the talon having the same features, but with the tsi badges).
youre right, the eclipse is all that lives today and i doubt they are made in the usa anymore, tho i havent found proof either way.
at any rate, the parent of my original post was saying that americans drive huge, slow cars. so, even tho we did in fact make this one, i can vouch for the fact that lots of americans love driving it as well. my 1.8L 92hp 35mpg version notwithstanding, i love them as well.
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how about -1 flamebait?
im 6'2" and i appreciate the room i get in a full sized american car. i also like being able to take 5 ppl or so with me. maybe i dont want to drive around in a 800lb piece of tin with 1 carburetor per cylinder(sure, sure, theyre efi now, its a joke). ill give credit where its due, f1 racing is WAY better than nascar or indy. roundy round just seems boring. also, european cars have their place, just like american cars do. id love to own an m5, for instance. i dont think a comparable car exists factory in the US.
concerning US motorsports: so autocrossing, rally, and trans am dont exist in the US? talk about ignorant. also, ever heard of the viper? yeah, the one that kicks a lot of tail in germany for a lot less $$?
okay, how about early 90's eagle talons with awd turbo motors that can see 13's stock and still outcorner your aston for thousands less?
to each his own, have you ever driven in a 2600lb car with 500hp? i have nothing against european cars, but you wanted to troll... drive the car you want the way you want, but dont talk trash about my choices in the matter.
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that is entirely correct. however, is it possible he is one of the best because its so new? i mean, here at oklahoma state, we have one of the leading sports geography(and another guy is the same for music geography) folks around. this is mostly due to the fact that there arent many in existence. i mean, you coudl be a pro at 64 bit athlon chips, but youve probably only been around a few years in that case. probably a poor example, but you get the idea. are there other people who have been doing this for a while?
hey, not only do i want to do this sort of thing for other cars, but i have a friend with an fd. where do i even start to hack these ecu's?
not that i disagree with you, but who's to say we are talking about adults? children do tend to do what theyre told, at least until they put great effort into doing the opposite in later years
what did you use for fuel? nitrous only supplies the air...
that was mostly my point. i mean, sure, the market is heading that way as it always does. things are getting bigger and better. just seems ot me that i dont quite need that much power yet
what do i possibly need 256MB/1GHz with a 5.6" screen for? not a troll, im honestly curious. thats what i have at home in my desktop and it does all i need, sure. however, most of what i do coudl not be done on a 5.6" screen. maybe its just a little to early for this kind of tiny power or are there really pda-style apps that need this?
that's just so abnormal it confuses people, it doesnt actually obscure anything unless you comment incorrect information.
sucks to be you, its up to like $300 now!
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so long as you never kill me or anyone i know by driving drunk, im okay with all that you said. the problem is that most people arent as intelligent about it as you appear to be.
i hate govt control, but i also hate stupid people and what they do. i have no idea where the balance is.
i live in one of the wettest college towns around so i know a few folks that have had at least the old tech version of these things installed in their cars following dui's. one guy had it prevent him from driving because he had just eaten some baby carrots.
if they make the technology for this bulletproof(yeah, right) then i think its a reasonable idea. i SERIOUSLY doubt that it will be implemented properly.
as a side note, the laws are so screwed up in this town that its "safer" (as in not getting ticketed) to drive home than walk. they ticket more people for public intox for walking home than they pull over for dui. how much sense does that make? as someone who has NEVER driven anywhere near intoxicated, this angers me. i could have children here someday get killed because somebody wanted to avoid a ticket so they drove home drunk.
i understand that you were mostly joking about the usb key costing money, but thats why i dont have one yet. if i werent a broke married college senior(thats like triple redundant) i would have one. however, walmart now has a 128MB one for $35. so, those things are coming down in price pretty quickly. $35 isnt bad at all
sure, sure, i agree that power/weight is more important. however, im gonna have to get my 63 galaxie some acceleration and to do so its gonna take some power. i like the car, so to get enough power for it, its probably going to take some not-so-natural aspiration and something bigger than the 289 in it(and a steady diet of fiberglass, perhaps). if you like SUV's(tho im not sure why ppl do) and you want power, you might check out the durango, i bet its one of the quickest. if you want power, 200hp in a talon is plenty to start with, i assure you.
besides, the guy i was responding to was saying that 340 is overkill for everything. in a durango, i bet it is surely not. that was my original point, along with teh fact that there are those of us who just like acceleration, not necessarily top speed. ive only had my nova up to 115, but its got some balls. just so happens i dont really care for fast, i like quick.
98% or so of what you said was correct and the performance/fuel efficiency was pretty close. in reality, the more efficiently a car burns fuel, the more power it makes. now, along with this, the more fuel you burn the more power you make. so, most of the time when you see significant performance gains, they result in worse fuel economy simply because they are burning more fuel, not because they are burning it less efficiently(quite the opposite).
the end result appears very similar to burning fuel less efficiently simply because the mileage went down. a very simple mistake, ill give you that one. oh, one more thing you were right about taht i should mention: high hp engines do burn fuel less efficiently but make the power thru burning lots of fuel. this would easily appear to be an inverse relationship of performance/fuel efficiency
i think his point was that the fault lies with the original coder, not the thousands of them since that havent seen it. sure, the brick analogy works fine, but its the wrong point, imo. even at 4am, a good coder should know how to build good if blocks.
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my buddy has an fd, oh i like those things
just get a matrox card. agp will get you, i think, up to 6 displays on one card? you can get old dual display 450's for pretty cheap now, too. not much for gaming, but i like it at work for coding.
DONT even mention nitrous. yes, any fool can spray his car and have it last for a couple hundred miles like that. however, none of the cars mentioned above are in that category, are they? i fail to see how that applies. not just any fool can get 500 reliable hp.
um... right. i hate SUB^HV's. so, im not sure where you were headed with that.
im not terribly comfortable in my 1G dsm. ive been in it for 5 hours at a time and ive lived thru it, but it doesnt mean i dont want more room. it surely cant take any more than two adults and 1-2 small children around. the vehicle i can take 6 people comfortably is my 63 galaxie. yeah, i paid $800 for it in nearly perfect running order and plans are looming for restoration. that, i assure you, is no SUV. however, you are correct in assuming i dont want to dent my image by driving a mini-van. first of all, they dont do anything well but haul kids and groceries, which my galaxie can do as well. second, they have huge blind spots and im convinced they lower your IQ 40pts just by driving them (yes, im including even myself in that). lastly, i LIKE old american cars. is that a problem? i intend to have at least 700hp in my nova someday and probably no more than 450 in the galaxie(its my wifes car, really).
btw, you want to talk about stupid commuter vehicles? how about down here in oklahoma where people drive 4500lb dually diesels to their office jobs every day? youre right, a *insert small foreign car here* will get that done much more effieciently. all im saying is that i like big american cars, but thats not all we drive. i have a 1.8L 92hp dsm for commuting.
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theres the history, but yes, i do believe they are at least mostly made in japan now. incidentally, i was not arguing that only stupid peopel drive big cars. i was arguing that not all the cars americans have are big. each car has a purpose. i love my 5000lb galaxie, but it doesnt get 1/4 of the mileage that i get with our eclipse. im not about to go cruisin in the dsm, tho. my 74 nova doesnt get much mileage, either, but im not about to race anybody without it. its just like i keep telling people about the OS holy wars: to each his own, they all have a purpose.
did i or did i not mention f1? im pretty sure i did. not only that, but i woudl love to drive one. im not sure where ill find some blubber as i have none on me, but thanks for the head-up.
my wife's 63 galaxie (ironically, shes a little 5'2" thing) could seat 6 people my size comfortably, tho it is a huge boat such as the parent of my post suggests, hehe.
ah yes, i was curious if anybody knew that. i realize i hinted that it was an american car and perhaps that isnt completely true. you are mostly correct, im not sure i consider it an american either.
i own a 93 eclipse whose motor i installed from a 92 talon that i also own. it says mitsubishi right on the valve cover. okay, the quick story of the eagle talon/mitsubishi eclipse/plymouth laser is that chrysler and mistubishi got together to form diamond star motors(dsm) and pumped out about 100 billion of these little things that all look just alike. they were made in normal, illinois, USA. sure, japanese parts mostly, but made in usa at least. in 1989 when these little buggers started, they produced a 2.0L FWD turbo in the laser that pumped out 1.6hp/ci, not too shabby. later on, the eclipses were available in gst badging for about the same hp but with all wheel drive(the talon having the same features, but with the tsi badges).
youre right, the eclipse is all that lives today and i doubt they are made in the usa anymore, tho i havent found proof either way.
at any rate, the parent of my original post was saying that americans drive huge, slow cars. so, even tho we did in fact make this one, i can vouch for the fact that lots of americans love driving it as well. my 1.8L 92hp 35mpg version notwithstanding, i love them as well.
how about -1 flamebait?
im 6'2" and i appreciate the room i get in a full sized american car. i also like being able to take 5 ppl or so with me. maybe i dont want to drive around in a 800lb piece of tin with 1 carburetor per cylinder(sure, sure, theyre efi now, its a joke). ill give credit where its due, f1 racing is WAY better than nascar or indy. roundy round just seems boring. also, european cars have their place, just like american cars do. id love to own an m5, for instance. i dont think a comparable car exists factory in the US.
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so autocrossing, rally, and trans am dont exist in the US? talk about ignorant. also, ever heard of the viper? yeah, the one that kicks a lot of tail in germany for a lot less $$?
okay, how about early 90's eagle talons with awd turbo motors that can see 13's stock and still outcorner your aston for thousands less?
to each his own, have you ever driven in a 2600lb car with 500hp? i have nothing against european cars, but you wanted to troll... drive the car you want the way you want, but dont talk trash about my choices in the matter.