Interesting that you should mention Saturn. I also used to work at an automotive plant in Toronto. They made the seat recliners. They couldn't find anyone else (besides me the poor prototype tech) that could weld a one inch bead and three spot welds with a mig welder.
The company brought in a robot and a huge 100% duty cycle mig welder. They made this massive jig that held 8 assemblies at a time. They had two people load and unload the jigs and about 200 people to do all the other assembly and packing. If they didn't have this robot, they wouldn't be able to make those parts.
They could have used a press and die set up. That would cost upwards of 100 grand. Since they only made 20 units at a time, it's just not cost effective.... and you still don't need a robot.
I worked as a welder-fitter at Komatsu Dresser in Cambridge Ontario a number of years ago. The "quality" issue is a red herring.
Robots haven't been invented that can fit a gusset plate made of 3/4" steel that doesn't quite fit right because a guy hand made it in a 500 ton press brake. The plates would have to be clamped, heated and hammered with a 10lb sledge hammer to fit properly.
We had about 20 - 35 ton trucks on the assembly line at any given time. There is simply no cost effective way to make a robot do the tasks that these guys were doing.
Vestas VOB scada to run windmills has a $6000. dongle.
Our network just got moved off the internet. It had some advantages, but legally I think we're now obligated to protect the scada systems as much as we can. The cardlock doors are coming next month
I bought a subscription to Open dns for my kids. For $29 a year they allow whitelisting. It's not as easy as you describe, but very effective for my kids. If it ain't on the list, they're not going there.
I like your idea. Be interesting to see if some enterprising geek could figure that out. I'd gladly pay for a service like that.
I can't stand that damn ribbon either. I use office 2000 and the compatibility pack. Same great old interface and it can read and save newer file formats.
I'm included in that 69% BUT, my 14 or so machines all run XP. One runs 7. I have them behind a firewall. I have racks of software that work fine for my purposes. I have no reason whatsoever to run the latest version of Windows. I have the compatibility pack for my 2003 version of office.
Microsoft will not see any more money from me for quite possibly a very long time.
Mormons are here to make scientology look credible. You want to see bat-shit crazy, just research some Mormon stuff. From baptizing dead jews to getting their own planets, they have some crazy stuff going on in there.
The best gag was from a comic when Bush was still in office. The comic was asked what he thought about a Mormon president. After a pause, he shrugged meh, what's one letter?
If you think file sharing is going down the tube within a week, you've gone completely mental.
If you had the mental capacity to understand what was originally written, you would not have thrown a fit of verbal diarrhea.
I said that the search site (Filestube), which searches these file upload sites will be useless without the ability to allow anyone to download the files.
The other point that you could not comprehend was that fact that these services advertise their sites as a place to store personal backups.
But I digress, have fun in your mother's basement and let the adults continue to discuss the issue.
If this type of service was only meant for personal backups and not illegal file sharing, this would have been the standard in the first place.
Why would anyone ever have to "share" backup files with anyone else.
I predict, within a week filestube and the like will be utterly useless and this facade (of legal file sharing)will be completely stopped just like Napster was.
If these sites can be shut down with lawsuits now, why do we need SOPA and PIPA?
We have no rights online, even to control of and access to our own documents. If you don't like this, what are you gonna do about it?
That was my main point.. why would anyone ever put their confidential company files in the hands of such a shady organization? Just say no. Have people gotten so cheap and or lazy that they don't know how to use or won't use ftp anymore?
I can find no sane reason to ever use services like megaupload. It's a shame so many people had to learn this lesson the hard way, but then again, it's the same way with backups... no one does it until they lose everything the first time.
Caveat emptor.
None of these "back-up" companies made any sense to me. Computers are so freaking cheap now. I have a file server in the garage. It automatically duplicates it's files every night to another drive. The drive is periodically backed up to a usb drive and stored in another building in a safe. Anything critical is also backed up on dvd.
Why in hell would I ever put anything important on some server that I don't have 24/7 access too?
The whole business model was derived from monkeys on crack. The ONLY point of these storage sites is to distribute illegal content. This will be entertaining watching these bozos and all their copy cats going to jail with ginormous fines.
The greatest irony in all of this is that even with the SOPA and PIPA delayed, the US still has the tools to deal with this issue.
I don't know who is dumber, the politicians or the idiots that dream up these copyright infringement sites?
Easy. Cost of upgrading to Windows 7 vs benefit it brings. XP does everything I need it to do at home (Netflix, Gmail, Slashdot); and at work (Office, LiveMeeting, Telnet, Photoshop, AutoCAD, etc). Why would I bother upgrading if there is no real driver to do so? What, the viruses? That's what antivirus, firewalls, NoScript and common sense are for. So I got hit by one 0-day worm in last 10 years, really does not justify the thousand bucks to upgrade each system for either me or my company, especially since it's not like there isn't going to be any more 0-days on Windows 7. In fact, you are more likely to see a 0-day on a newer OS...
I wish I had mod points. This comment wins the thread. Well Done!
I agree, the pc won't go anywhere. But, it would be nice to get all the people who are not capable of running a computer off the computers.
I'll be a complete computer snob here... iMac, iPod, iPad, iChat are all for people who are iChallenged. Most people aren't smart enough to run a computer. Within a couple months the machines are so spyware and virus infected they barely run. A walled garden will keep them out of trouble.
These people are not going to use Photoshop or code ever. Best to get them somewhere safe and maybe we can prolong the half life of a tech support worker.
that explains the complete lack of respect and manners in the last few generations then
No, that would be the parents that don't spend enough time or effort to raise their own kids. Some of these parents still use tech as a baby sitter or ship them off to day care.
My kids (I have 5) get an hour a day on the computer and maybe an hour later in the day in front of a TV.
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The company brought in a robot and a huge 100% duty cycle mig welder. They made this massive jig that held 8 assemblies at a time. They had two people load and unload the jigs and about 200 people to do all the other assembly and packing. If they didn't have this robot, they wouldn't be able to make those parts.
They could have used a press and die set up. That would cost upwards of 100 grand. Since they only made 20 units at a time, it's just not cost effective.... and you still don't need a robot.
Robots haven't been invented that can fit a gusset plate made of 3/4" steel that doesn't quite fit right because a guy hand made it in a 500 ton press brake. The plates would have to be clamped, heated and hammered with a 10lb sledge hammer to fit properly.
We had about 20 - 35 ton trucks on the assembly line at any given time. There is simply no cost effective way to make a robot do the tasks that these guys were doing.
Our network just got moved off the internet. It had some advantages, but legally I think we're now obligated to protect the scada systems as much as we can. The cardlock doors are coming next month
I like your idea. Be interesting to see if some enterprising geek could figure that out. I'd gladly pay for a service like that.
It's to the point now that when I see ads, I'm shocked. I've had them blocked for years.
They may be able to stop adblock, but good luck trying to outlaw a hosts file.
I can't stand that damn ribbon either. I use office 2000 and the compatibility pack. Same great old interface and it can read and save newer file formats.
Insert cliche here:
"The first time Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck will be the day they start making vacuum cleaners".
Microsoft will not see any more money from me for quite possibly a very long time.
Mormons are here to make scientology look credible. You want to see bat-shit crazy, just research some Mormon stuff. From baptizing dead jews to getting their own planets, they have some crazy stuff going on in there.
Mormonism vs Christianity http://mormoninfo.org/
The best gag was from a comic when Bush was still in office. The comic was asked what he thought about a Mormon president. After a pause, he shrugged meh, what's one letter?
I use a hosts file on my home machine to block the ads, and OpenDns for the kids machines.
MS sells ads. The biggest use of the HOSTS file is blocking ads. Google wishes they could do this.
BINGO!!! We have a winner! Game Over.
This simplified video for me. I have never needed to install another codec manually to watch anything. I still us XP though.
I will not be buying any new flavour of windows.
Seems you must have an entirely different source of advertising than I see.
What are these "ads" that you speak of? My house has a PVR and we record EVERYTHING before we watch it. The 30 second jump button works perfectly.
This is dumb beyond words. These are the people teaching our children? Could be fun in 20 years.
I can hook up a $20 wal mart dvd player and get around that though.... stupid **AA rules.
Well said. No mod points today.
If you think file sharing is going down the tube within a week, you've gone completely mental.
If you had the mental capacity to understand what was originally written, you would not have thrown a fit of verbal diarrhea.
I said that the search site (Filestube), which searches these file upload sites will be useless without the ability to allow anyone to download the files.
The other point that you could not comprehend was that fact that these services advertise their sites as a place to store personal backups.
But I digress, have fun in your mother's basement and let the adults continue to discuss the issue.
It's easy to spew venom as a coward isn't it.
Why would anyone ever have to "share" backup files with anyone else.
I predict, within a week filestube and the like will be utterly useless and this facade (of legal file sharing)will be completely stopped just like Napster was.
If these sites can be shut down with lawsuits now, why do we need SOPA and PIPA?
We have no rights online, even to control of and access to our own documents. If you don't like this, what are you gonna do about it?
That was my main point.. why would anyone ever put their confidential company files in the hands of such a shady organization? Just say no. Have people gotten so cheap and or lazy that they don't know how to use or won't use ftp anymore?
I can find no sane reason to ever use services like megaupload. It's a shame so many people had to learn this lesson the hard way, but then again, it's the same way with backups... no one does it until they lose everything the first time. Caveat emptor.
Why in hell would I ever put anything important on some server that I don't have 24/7 access too?
The whole business model was derived from monkeys on crack. The ONLY point of these storage sites is to distribute illegal content. This will be entertaining watching these bozos and all their copy cats going to jail with ginormous fines.
The greatest irony in all of this is that even with the SOPA and PIPA delayed, the US still has the tools to deal with this issue.
I don't know who is dumber, the politicians or the idiots that dream up these copyright infringement sites?
Easy. Cost of upgrading to Windows 7 vs benefit it brings. XP does everything I need it to do at home (Netflix, Gmail, Slashdot); and at work (Office, LiveMeeting, Telnet, Photoshop, AutoCAD, etc). Why would I bother upgrading if there is no real driver to do so? What, the viruses? That's what antivirus, firewalls, NoScript and common sense are for. So I got hit by one 0-day worm in last 10 years, really does not justify the thousand bucks to upgrade each system for either me or my company, especially since it's not like there isn't going to be any more 0-days on Windows 7. In fact, you are more likely to see a 0-day on a newer OS...
I wish I had mod points. This comment wins the thread. Well Done!
I'll be a complete computer snob here... iMac, iPod, iPad, iChat are all for people who are iChallenged. Most people aren't smart enough to run a computer. Within a couple months the machines are so spyware and virus infected they barely run. A walled garden will keep them out of trouble.
These people are not going to use Photoshop or code ever. Best to get them somewhere safe and maybe we can prolong the half life of a tech support worker.
that explains the complete lack of respect and manners in the last few generations then
No, that would be the parents that don't spend enough time or effort to raise their own kids. Some of these parents still use tech as a baby sitter or ship them off to day care.
My kids (I have 5) get an hour a day on the computer and maybe an hour later in the day in front of a TV.