So let me get this straight. You're living in the liberal capital of Texas, you're a musician (long-haired FM type), a game programmer, a fan of science fiction, a Buddhist, and a former BBS operator? And you support GW Bush?
That's an anti-matter explosion just waiting to happen.
What about Gentoo? Gentoo is great. It doesn't support rpm. It only takes me a week to compile, and goddman is it fast on my 486SX. Haha, who could run some other ****THUNK*****
I tell y'all what. If you can put up with playing with other people's faeces, become a master plumber. The rest of us should go to college.
If you're actually arguing in favor of becoming a bum, let me know what corner is yours and I'll drop a buck into your hat every once in a while on my way home from the office.
Approach from the other side, and it looks a little different. Your point seems to be that an advanced degree doesn't mean success. True, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
But on the other side, look at the successful people making real contributions to society. I don't mean Donald Trump, I mean they people working on nanotech, designing new silicon fabrication processes, pushing the boundaries of Astronony or Physics, curing cancer. What do all of these people have? Advanced degrees. Usually American PhD degrees. And some people would dismantle our entire education system because they claim that because some inner-city schools have problems, they are all broken. Sorry, but the schools in my area are well-funded, and they are definitely not broken. They far outperform the private schools in the area.
The problem with that argument is that over a lifetime, a university education pays itself back in increased earnings many times over. The other problem with that argument is that the undergraduate system feeds the graduate system. Somehow, graduate students are showing up, educated and prepared, despite having "wasted" the previous 4 years. If college was really that worthless, I'd expect we'd be hearing about high school diploma holders making more money on average (they have 4 years more to work) and graduate students not being prepared for their studies.
1) A bunch of people who don't have a public school education are going to try to convince everyone else that because they haven't experienced public school, they are experts on the subject. They don't like public schools, of course.
2) A bunch of people with public school educations are going say their arguments against public school educations are intellectually superior. If they are so smart, they must have gotten that way in public schools.
3) A bunch of self-educated people are going to argue against public schools, claiming that they are educated _despite_ the system, not because of it.
4) Hardly anyone will bring up the points that our public schools are actually very competitive, bad-apples are unfairly overemphasized, and that the system of education involves parents AND schools together.
5) Voucher mania will play a role in the discussions here today.
6) Home-schooling parents will become indignant.
7) Exactly one person will change their opinion. Slightly.
Good, except that I disagree that there is anything such as a free market. As I read recently, all markets are constructed entities. Even the SEC and the apparatus surrounding stock exchanges is about 1000 pages of rules dictating how the market works. A free market is conceptually a market without rules at all, except those that arise like forces of nature.
You were doing an adequate job until you mentioned those particular countries (and most of Europe) as being socialist. You are right that the grandparent should learn the meaning of the words, but so should you.
In other news, Slashdot is now accepting donations from readers, for the purpose of buying additional hard drives for the database server. A sudden upsurge in the scale of flamewars on the popular website has taken all of the editors by surprise. They really had no idea that a 200 gig drive could be filled up so quickly.
When we want something, we usually exchange something called "money" for what we want. We have money, which really isn't any good for anything except getting other things you want.
And someone else has a TiVo service, which they want to give some someone with money. They can't eat TiVo service, after all.
So, we both do something called an "exchange". We give them the money, and they give us the TiVo service. This is not a one-sided transaction. We had money which we didn't want, but the other person did. They had some TiVo service, which they can't eat, but can give to us in exchange for the "money" that they can use to get something to eat from someone else. To say that it's cornholing, or flagpole rape is just a little ridiculous.
So as I said, it's not a one-sided deal. Both parties of this exchange of "money" for "TiVo service" benefit. In fact, usually both parties are so pleased at the exchange from which both of them benefitted, that they say "thank you" to each other at the conclusion of the deal.
Damn you really are an idiot. Do you know how the bad guys figure out what classified payloads we launch?
They look up. That's right, they can see the fricking satellite from their front yards. They can observe the orbit with their eyes, with cameras, and with radars.
You've posted a dozen messages on this forum claiming these guys are giving away secrets. They are not giving away anything that the bad guys can't see with their own eyes.
Jeez. Some people really don't have a clue at all. Read some satellite observing newsgroups sometime. They are filled with stories that go like this:
Man #1: Hey, I saw a new satellite last night. Don't know what it is, but I've observed it on two passes so far, and I have calculated some orbital elements. So, it looks like it was launched at 4:15 yesterday from Vandenberg, and it's in a 450x300 mile orbit, polar. Here's the orbital elements so you can find it: (gives elements)
Man #2: Thanks, I imaged the new sat last night, and it looks like it's a replacement for the Lacrosse that failed last week. Looks nice, got some photos of the solar arrays shining in the sun.
These people can figure out exactly what a payload is, where it was launched, when it was launched, and who owns it, without ever seeing a launch.
It's not sensitive at all. If he posts an article about a military payload going up, that would just give information about the launch time. Big deal.
But when it's orbiting, the orbit can be observed. The satellite can be observed. Very good guesses can be made about the satellite.
In other words, you don't know what you're talking about. Even if he reports classified launches, there's no information that he is releasing that can't and isn't be figured out by observing the orbit.
Actually, that's not what it does. SPF can help to prevent a Joe-Job.
SPF is just a record that says "all mail from this doman should come from this IP address." If you get a mail from the domain, but not from that IP address, it's fake.
SPF doesn't not identify the source of an e-mail. For that, you just read the headers.
Oh come on. I suppose you are telling me that unicorns exist too. WAIT! I see a unicorn out my window right now! Speeders - actual speeders - you expect me to believe that?
OK, enough fun with you. My original post in this thread was sarchastic/ironic/toungue-in-cheek. I was surprised that people took me seriously, so I posted something even more absurd - that there was no such thing as a speeder.
I am absolutely astonished that people took it seriously. Did you really think I was serious about the no-speeder thing? How could you have possibly thought that? Isn't your bullshit detector working properly?
Are you _sure_ that you've seen people driving in the left hand lane in the US? I just find that hard to believe, and I've driven in more than 36 states of this Union.
Since we're on the subject, I am really amused that some here are suggesting that speeding is a dangerous activity. I mean, really, has anyone actually _seen_ anyone speeding? I mean in the past 20 years? I know that I sure haven't. If we want to concentrate on making our highways safer, we've got to be sure that we're fixing problems that actually exist. They are out there, and we don't have to go around inventing problems. Next time someone says they saw someone speeding I'm just going to reply "and I just saw a unicorn too."
I disagree with you. The major cause of accidents is people passing only on the left. Here in the US, everyone rigidly stays in the right hand lane, except to pass. And after they have passed, the move over to the right again.
It's a hazard, because to get around a car, you have to always switch a lane. If I'm in the right hand lane, and I'm going 30 MPH faster than another car, it's dangerous to have to change lanes to get around him. If drivers here in the states would just ignore the rules about staying in the right hand lane except to pass, then when I overtake a slow driver on the right, 50% of the time I wouldn't have to change a lane at all.
Our highways would be much safer with less lane changing, and we can only accomplish that by making drivers in the US comfortable with driving continuously in the left hand lane. God knows they never do that now.
The only thing you'd hear is the clank of another silver dollar clanking into the piggy bank. If that windmill is literally in the backyard, that means that you are getting an income from the power company for use of the space it occupies.
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You forgot one thing: your amazing personal super-powers don't include genetically enhanced joke recognition.
So let me get this straight. You're living in the liberal capital of Texas, you're a musician (long-haired FM type), a game programmer, a fan of science fiction, a Buddhist, and a former BBS operator? And you support GW Bush?
That's an anti-matter explosion just waiting to happen.
I can't believe Apple would do something like this to 10.2 users!
I can't believe that Apple has 10.2 users. Nice to see that they are expanding the user base.
What about Gentoo? Gentoo is great. It doesn't support rpm. It only takes me a week to compile, and goddman is it fast on my 486SX. Haha, who could run some other ****THUNK*****
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I tell y'all what. If you can put up with playing with other people's faeces, become a master plumber. The rest of us should go to college.
If you're actually arguing in favor of becoming a bum, let me know what corner is yours and I'll drop a buck into your hat every once in a while on my way home from the office.
Once again, approach it from the other side.
Is it true that all people who have the education will cure cancer? Of course not.
Is it true that the cure for cancer will come from someone who has the education? If I had a million bucks, I'd bet it double or nothing that it will.
Approach from the other side, and it looks a little different. Your point seems to be that an advanced degree doesn't mean success. True, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
But on the other side, look at the successful people making real contributions to society. I don't mean Donald Trump, I mean they people working on nanotech, designing new silicon fabrication processes, pushing the boundaries of Astronony or Physics, curing cancer. What do all of these people have? Advanced degrees. Usually American PhD degrees. And some people would dismantle our entire education system because they claim that because some inner-city schools have problems, they are all broken. Sorry, but the schools in my area are well-funded, and they are definitely not broken. They far outperform the private schools in the area.
The problem with that argument is that over a lifetime, a university education pays itself back in increased earnings many times over. The other problem with that argument is that the undergraduate system feeds the graduate system. Somehow, graduate students are showing up, educated and prepared, despite having "wasted" the previous 4 years. If college was really that worthless, I'd expect we'd be hearing about high school diploma holders making more money on average (they have 4 years more to work) and graduate students not being prepared for their studies.
1) A bunch of people who don't have a public school education are going to try to convince everyone else that because they haven't experienced public school, they are experts on the subject. They don't like public schools, of course.
2) A bunch of people with public school educations are going say their arguments against public school educations are intellectually superior. If they are so smart, they must have gotten that way in public schools.
3) A bunch of self-educated people are going to argue against public schools, claiming that they are educated _despite_ the system, not because of it.
4) Hardly anyone will bring up the points that our public schools are actually very competitive, bad-apples are unfairly overemphasized, and that the system of education involves parents AND schools together.
5) Voucher mania will play a role in the discussions here today.
6) Home-schooling parents will become indignant.
7) Exactly one person will change their opinion. Slightly.
Good, except that I disagree that there is anything such as a free market. As I read recently, all markets are constructed entities. Even the SEC and the apparatus surrounding stock exchanges is about 1000 pages of rules dictating how the market works. A free market is conceptually a market without rules at all, except those that arise like forces of nature.
You were doing an adequate job until you mentioned those particular countries (and most of Europe) as being socialist. You are right that the grandparent should learn the meaning of the words, but so should you.
Sure I agree, but the original (clueless) author seems to have the attitude that if Intel isn't giving away their product for free, they are evil.
In other news, Slashdot is now accepting donations from readers, for the purpose of buying additional hard drives for the database server. A sudden upsurge in the scale of flamewars on the popular website has taken all of the editors by surprise. They really had no idea that a 200 gig drive could be filled up so quickly.
If Intel can raise their prices, and people will pay them, what's the problem. Do you expect a company to give away the product for free?
You say it's "sneeky" [SIC] but it's Capitalism. Do you have something against making a profit?
Well I stole the door thunkers off a Porsche and put them on my Honda Civic. Damn thing just FEELS faster with them.
Ridiculous.
When we want something, we usually exchange something called "money" for what we want. We have money, which really isn't any good for anything except getting other things you want.
And someone else has a TiVo service, which they want to give some someone with money. They can't eat TiVo service, after all.
So, we both do something called an "exchange". We give them the money, and they give us the TiVo service. This is not a one-sided transaction. We had money which we didn't want, but the other person did. They had some TiVo service, which they can't eat, but can give to us in exchange for the "money" that they can use to get something to eat from someone else. To say that it's cornholing, or flagpole rape is just a little ridiculous.
So as I said, it's not a one-sided deal. Both parties of this exchange of "money" for "TiVo service" benefit. In fact, usually both parties are so pleased at the exchange from which both of them benefitted, that they say "thank you" to each other at the conclusion of the deal.
So buy the damn TiVo service and qwitcherbitchin.
Damn you really are an idiot. Do you know how the bad guys figure out what classified payloads we launch?
They look up. That's right, they can see the fricking satellite from their front yards. They can observe the orbit with their eyes, with cameras, and with radars.
You've posted a dozen messages on this forum claiming these guys are giving away secrets. They are not giving away anything that the bad guys can't see with their own eyes.
Jeez. Some people really don't have a clue at all. Read some satellite observing newsgroups sometime. They are filled with stories that go like this:
Man #1: Hey, I saw a new satellite last night. Don't know what it is, but I've observed it on two passes so far, and I have calculated some orbital elements. So, it looks like it was launched at 4:15 yesterday from Vandenberg, and it's in a 450x300 mile orbit, polar. Here's the orbital elements so you can find it: (gives elements)
Man #2: Thanks, I imaged the new sat last night, and it looks like it's a replacement for the Lacrosse that failed last week. Looks nice, got some photos of the solar arrays shining in the sun.
These people can figure out exactly what a payload is, where it was launched, when it was launched, and who owns it, without ever seeing a launch.
In short, you're a dummy.
It's not sensitive at all. If he posts an article about a military payload going up, that would just give information about the launch time. Big deal.
But when it's orbiting, the orbit can be observed. The satellite can be observed. Very good guesses can be made about the satellite.
In other words, you don't know what you're talking about. Even if he reports classified launches, there's no information that he is releasing that can't and isn't be figured out by observing the orbit.
And the pizza thing is apocryphal.
Actually, that's not what it does. SPF can help to prevent a Joe-Job.
SPF is just a record that says "all mail from this doman should come from this IP address." If you get a mail from the domain, but not from that IP address, it's fake.
SPF doesn't not identify the source of an e-mail. For that, you just read the headers.
Oh come on. I suppose you are telling me that unicorns exist too. WAIT! I see a unicorn out my window right now! Speeders - actual speeders - you expect me to believe that?
OK, enough fun with you. My original post in this thread was sarchastic/ironic/toungue-in-cheek. I was surprised that people took me seriously, so I posted something even more absurd - that there was no such thing as a speeder.
I am absolutely astonished that people took it seriously. Did you really think I was serious about the no-speeder thing? How could you have possibly thought that? Isn't your bullshit detector working properly?
Stop it with the virii. It's virusen
Are you _sure_ that you've seen people driving in the left hand lane in the US? I just find that hard to believe, and I've driven in more than 36 states of this Union.
Since we're on the subject, I am really amused that some here are suggesting that speeding is a dangerous activity. I mean, really, has anyone actually _seen_ anyone speeding? I mean in the past 20 years? I know that I sure haven't. If we want to concentrate on making our highways safer, we've got to be sure that we're fixing problems that actually exist. They are out there, and we don't have to go around inventing problems. Next time someone says they saw someone speeding I'm just going to reply "and I just saw a unicorn too."
Congratulations, everyone but you took me seriously. Astonishing, really.
I disagree with you. The major cause of accidents is people passing only on the left. Here in the US, everyone rigidly stays in the right hand lane, except to pass. And after they have passed, the move over to the right again.
It's a hazard, because to get around a car, you have to always switch a lane. If I'm in the right hand lane, and I'm going 30 MPH faster than another car, it's dangerous to have to change lanes to get around him. If drivers here in the states would just ignore the rules about staying in the right hand lane except to pass, then when I overtake a slow driver on the right, 50% of the time I wouldn't have to change a lane at all.
Our highways would be much safer with less lane changing, and we can only accomplish that by making drivers in the US comfortable with driving continuously in the left hand lane. God knows they never do that now.
The only thing you'd hear is the clank of another silver dollar clanking into the piggy bank. If that windmill is literally in the backyard, that means that you are getting an income from the power company for use of the space it occupies.