Actually they are the same. Grid is a term that is more general than Seti-like infrastructure. Grid is the technology that enables other things. In the case of SETI, the technology enables the SETI@home product to run across multiple computers. In the case of IBM, Grid enables their On-Demand product. Hopefully that helps out a bit. IBM has been rather confusing in explaining the relationship between grid tech and On-Demand. In case you're wondering, people inside of IBM are sometimes confused too.
HR Block was just an example I used to show how a businesses busyness can vary over time. i.e. an analogy is an illustraton, not an argument that holds up in situations that weren't addressed.
You're right that it's application hosting. What I was pointing out is that the application hosting environment (transparent to the customer) uses GRID technology to support it.
And as far as data transfer goes, they don't do much of that. Instead of running one app across multiple machines, they are running multiple apps in a single machine. (separating apps and customers in virtual machines). The GRID technology is used to dynamically size the virtual machines anywhere in the farm, automatically. If a virtual machine is maxed out, and the physical hardware needs to be rebalanced, that entire image migrates to bigger hardware somewhere else. The grid management software takes care of moving storage and apps to places where it is available, and filling in idle places with apps that fit the slice size available.
This is GRID, in that it's a utility model. Just like the power company scales power production (not just in a single power plant, but across entire regions of the continent) in response to demand, IBM can do the same thing. Their ultimate cost for application hosting is far smaller than it would otherwise have been, allowing IBM to pass the savings on to their executive bonuses, er, I mean the customer.
IBM's vision of GRID computing is that compute resources are like the electrical grid: you pull what you need from the grid on demand. Personally I don't see the value for most applications
That's not entirely complete, so that's why you don't see the value. IBM will have a great big server farm, with machines filling the room, all subpartitioned.
Company X, Y, and Z will tell IBM "take my apps and host them for me". IBM could host them all conventionally, which is fine. But, they have the technology to use GRID to lower their costs. X, Y, and Z's apps might all be running on the same server, in different partitions. If X suddenly needs 10 times the capacity (for example, HR Block in tax season) their apps will transparently migrate to some faster CPU's somewhere else. IBM just bills for the cycles used, no matter where they are used.
In this way, IBM can fill a room with 100 gigantic servers, and host 1000 customers' apps. Their competitors might fill the same room with 10000 servers, hosting 1000 customers' apps. That would be wasteful, because overall, the server farm might be 90% idle.
GRID computing is a technology, and On-Demand is the product it supports.
The word is that as soon as the rich people have enough money, there will be some left to trickle down on us. We've all just got to vote for GW Bush, and do our part to help those who make 100X our wages to get richer. They are the ones who drive innovation and create jobs, after all.
A friend of mine who works in a PR house says that they are drafting up announcements for CEO's all over the country, to the effect that they are now "rich enough" and since they have more money than they can spend in a lifetime, they are going to start hiring unemployed programmers again. Supposedly, all these rich people are going to announce that they have earned all the money that they desire to earn, just before the election. This will of course, prove the economic policies of GW Bush to be correct, and he will win in a landslide. Actually, we will ALL win, as this nation gets back to work after our long national nightmare of rich people who have almost enough money.
MS has better things to do than to port all their old stuff. It would be much cheaper to just get this 3rd party company to do their stuff. Everything works with much less effort.
And, I'm posting to your article because you marked me as a friend. You think I rip holes in your note, but I'm being helpful. I'm just being friendly. Is that OK?
How is freedom-loving "the Right"? Last I checked, the authors of the Constitution were a bunch of anti-Royalists. I'm having a hard time at this point working in the word "fascism" somewhere so someone else can continue the criticism chain...
Years ago, when radios were built mostly with vacuum tubes, the transistor radios were marvels of technology. They were emblazoned with little words, announcing that the radio you were holding had "16 transistors" or something like that. The implication was that the more transistors, the better. Another way the marketers would emphasize the high-tech nature of the product would be to put the words "Solid State" on the case. To users, that meant that there were no vacuum tubes inside, only transistors. Vacuum tubes also have no moving parts, so solid state means that it is built with no moving parts, and WITH transistors.
So, you buy a computer with an insufficient FireWire port, and then claim that the drive is broken? The real problem is your port. You can get an expander card and fix the problem. The drive is fine, your ports are not.
The link you quoted says that you can't write a song without being sued. The fact that people do write songs every day without being sued is some pretty good evidence that the claim is false.
I'm a big supporter of free software, and am totally against software piracy. A contradiction? No SIR!
Free software depends on adherence by users to an agreement with the developers not to illegally use the software in a proprietary manner. If we expect people to abide by free software licenses, we have to abide by commercial software licenses too.
In my opinion, the only thing he did wrong was to not put a clause into his license that when the user clicks on it specifically authorizes the code to delete the home directory if it chooses to.
Stop stealing music, software, etc. while at the same time expecting free software to remain free. It's hypocrisy.
Don't conflate the issues. I'm a mega-liberal, and I'll challenge any of those pansy conservatives out there to a duel any day.
There's a difference between raising the retirement age and privatizing Social Security and medicare or a flat tax. If people are living longer, it makes sense to raise the retirement age.
But, privatizing services, or going to a flat tax would be disastrous, I agree. There's a real chance that our country will move in the next few years from being a democracy, to a plutocracy. The rich will rule and get richer. The rest of us will have to bend a knee to our royal dynasties. Their power will continue generation after generation with no estate tax, and in the end we'll be no better than the regime that we fought a revolution against.
Buy two guns, one for you, one for the bad guy. Duh. Oh, and the bad guy's gun has defective ammo. But you didn't know that when you saw him point it at you wink wink nudge nudge
I usually like reading long, intellectually stimulating articles, but WOW, that was just too much.
Now, contrast that with the Republican's message: reduce taxes on the people who have capital to encourage them to invest and create new jobs. Or even shorter, "trickle down."
That's all a huge pile of crap, as we all know, but the message works in part because it's very simple. Nobody's going to read and understand 20 pages of dense prose with hundreds of perfectly rational arguments, leading to a beautiful well-supported conclusion.
Everyone, take a lesson from this. If you write about politics, keep it short. Keep it simple. Use simple words. Short sentences are nice. Make your point quickly, and wrap it up.
This one time, at band camp, I took a MIDI file and ran it through a speech synthesizer. Beethoven was a computer voice saying 'E' 'E' 'F' 'G' 'G' 'F' 'E' 'D' and so on. Very cool.
Right, that's like picking your own nickname. When I was in college, my suitemate decided to give himself a nickname. One day, he said "call me Jizz". Of course we agreed.
The stupid fucker had no idea what "Jizz" meant though, and just heard it somewhere and thought it sounded cool.
There's a rule: you can't ever pick your own nickname.
I am selling a bag of grapes, fresh off the vine. These are the finest grapes you will ever see. Also, with your purchase, I will wash your car every day, as long as you or I shall live. Only 10 million dollars.
That particular typewriter was electric powered, and was based on a design developed by Remington, and purchased by IBM. Marketers targeted government offices primarily, because of their common practice of using thick pads of carbon copies. The electric power could strike the paper harder than a manual typewriter.
Now's a good time to bring up the Windows registry and it's absolute reliability and ease of use. Going through a couple million registry keys is far easier than editing a human readable file in Linux. And my files in/etc are always getting corrupted, and when I try to restore the/etc directory from the last known good backup, somehow everything breaks.
Wait, maybe I have that backwards. Anyway, the point is that databases are really not the right thing for some kinds of data structures.
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Actually they are the same. Grid is a term that is more general than Seti-like infrastructure. Grid is the technology that enables other things. In the case of SETI, the technology enables the SETI@home product to run across multiple computers. In the case of IBM, Grid enables their On-Demand product. Hopefully that helps out a bit. IBM has been rather confusing in explaining the relationship between grid tech and On-Demand. In case you're wondering, people inside of IBM are sometimes confused too.
HR Block was just an example I used to show how a businesses busyness can vary over time. i.e. an analogy is an illustraton, not an argument that holds up in situations that weren't addressed.
You're right that it's application hosting. What I was pointing out is that the application hosting environment (transparent to the customer) uses GRID technology to support it.
And as far as data transfer goes, they don't do much of that. Instead of running one app across multiple machines, they are running multiple apps in a single machine. (separating apps and customers in virtual machines). The GRID technology is used to dynamically size the virtual machines anywhere in the farm, automatically. If a virtual machine is maxed out, and the physical hardware needs to be rebalanced, that entire image migrates to bigger hardware somewhere else. The grid management software takes care of moving storage and apps to places where it is available, and filling in idle places with apps that fit the slice size available.
This is GRID, in that it's a utility model. Just like the power company scales power production (not just in a single power plant, but across entire regions of the continent) in response to demand, IBM can do the same thing. Their ultimate cost for application hosting is far smaller than it would otherwise have been, allowing IBM to pass the savings on to their executive bonuses, er, I mean the customer.
IBM's vision of GRID computing is that compute resources are like the electrical grid: you pull what you need from the grid on demand. Personally I don't see the value for most applications
That's not entirely complete, so that's why you don't see the value. IBM will have a great big server farm, with machines filling the room, all subpartitioned.
Company X, Y, and Z will tell IBM "take my apps and host them for me". IBM could host them all conventionally, which is fine. But, they have the technology to use GRID to lower their costs. X, Y, and Z's apps might all be running on the same server, in different partitions. If X suddenly needs 10 times the capacity (for example, HR Block in tax season) their apps will transparently migrate to some faster CPU's somewhere else. IBM just bills for the cycles used, no matter where they are used.
In this way, IBM can fill a room with 100 gigantic servers, and host 1000 customers' apps. Their competitors might fill the same room with 10000 servers, hosting 1000 customers' apps. That would be wasteful, because overall, the server farm might be 90% idle.
GRID computing is a technology, and On-Demand is the product it supports.
Next stop, 4371290th floor. Ladies lingerie.
The word is that as soon as the rich people have enough money, there will be some left to trickle down on us. We've all just got to vote for GW Bush, and do our part to help those who make 100X our wages to get richer. They are the ones who drive innovation and create jobs, after all.
A friend of mine who works in a PR house says that they are drafting up announcements for CEO's all over the country, to the effect that they are now "rich enough" and since they have more money than they can spend in a lifetime, they are going to start hiring unemployed programmers again. Supposedly, all these rich people are going to announce that they have earned all the money that they desire to earn, just before the election. This will of course, prove the economic policies of GW Bush to be correct, and he will win in a landslide. Actually, we will ALL win, as this nation gets back to work after our long national nightmare of rich people who have almost enough money.
MS has better things to do than to port all their old stuff. It would be much cheaper to just get this 3rd party company to do their stuff. Everything works with much less effort.
And, I'm posting to your article because you marked me as a friend. You think I rip holes in your note, but I'm being helpful. I'm just being friendly. Is that OK?
Totally different technology. Transitive is binary translation. Connectic is binary interpretation, as in CPU emulation.
Transitive's technology is more like what Transmeta uses to get various instruction sets to work on their VLIW architecture CPU.
Should have RTFA.
THAT is a classic. Thanks for that link.
Note to everyone else, It's safe to click on, but if you don't trust me, just go to time.com and take a look at the cover for the current magazine.
You know NOTHING of D&D, obviously. Now roll your D12, save vs. moderators.
How is freedom-loving "the Right"? Last I checked, the authors of the Constitution were a bunch of anti-Royalists. I'm having a hard time at this point working in the word "fascism" somewhere so someone else can continue the criticism chain...
Years ago, when radios were built mostly with vacuum tubes, the transistor radios were marvels of technology. They were emblazoned with little words, announcing that the radio you were holding had "16 transistors" or something like that. The implication was that the more transistors, the better. Another way the marketers would emphasize the high-tech nature of the product would be to put the words "Solid State" on the case. To users, that meant that there were no vacuum tubes inside, only transistors. Vacuum tubes also have no moving parts, so solid state means that it is built with no moving parts, and WITH transistors.
So, you buy a computer with an insufficient FireWire port, and then claim that the drive is broken? The real problem is your port. You can get an expander card and fix the problem. The drive is fine, your ports are not.
It's virusen, not virii.
This is in the category of "not my problem". It's not my argument, all I did was point out the mismatch between conclusion and fact.
The link you quoted says that you can't write a song without being sued. The fact that people do write songs every day without being sued is some pretty good evidence that the claim is false.
I'm a big supporter of free software, and am totally against software piracy. A contradiction? No SIR!
Free software depends on adherence by users to an agreement with the developers not to illegally use the software in a proprietary manner. If we expect people to abide by free software licenses, we have to abide by commercial software licenses too.
In my opinion, the only thing he did wrong was to not put a clause into his license that when the user clicks on it specifically authorizes the code to delete the home directory if it chooses to.
Stop stealing music, software, etc. while at the same time expecting free software to remain free. It's hypocrisy.
Don't conflate the issues. I'm a mega-liberal, and I'll challenge any of those pansy conservatives out there to a duel any day.
There's a difference between raising the retirement age and privatizing Social Security and medicare or a flat tax. If people are living longer, it makes sense to raise the retirement age.
But, privatizing services, or going to a flat tax would be disastrous, I agree. There's a real chance that our country will move in the next few years from being a democracy, to a plutocracy. The rich will rule and get richer. The rest of us will have to bend a knee to our royal dynasties. Their power will continue generation after generation with no estate tax, and in the end we'll be no better than the regime that we fought a revolution against.
This topic has already been explored by the great philosopher named Jim Carrey and his movie "The Truman Show".
Buy two guns, one for you, one for the bad guy. Duh. Oh, and the bad guy's gun has defective ammo. But you didn't know that when you saw him point it at you wink wink nudge nudge
I usually like reading long, intellectually stimulating articles, but WOW, that was just too much.
Now, contrast that with the Republican's message: reduce taxes on the people who have capital to encourage them to invest and create new jobs. Or even shorter, "trickle down."
That's all a huge pile of crap, as we all know, but the message works in part because it's very simple. Nobody's going to read and understand 20 pages of dense prose with hundreds of perfectly rational arguments, leading to a beautiful well-supported conclusion.
Everyone, take a lesson from this. If you write about politics, keep it short. Keep it simple. Use simple words. Short sentences are nice. Make your point quickly, and wrap it up.
This one time, at band camp, I took a MIDI file and ran it through a speech synthesizer. Beethoven was a computer voice saying 'E' 'E' 'F' 'G' 'G' 'F' 'E' 'D' and so on. Very cool.
Right, that's like picking your own nickname. When I was in college, my suitemate decided to give himself a nickname. One day, he said "call me Jizz". Of course we agreed.
The stupid fucker had no idea what "Jizz" meant though, and just heard it somewhere and thought it sounded cool.
There's a rule: you can't ever pick your own nickname.
I am selling a bag of grapes, fresh off the vine. These are the finest grapes you will ever see. Also, with your purchase, I will wash your car every day, as long as you or I shall live. Only 10 million dollars.
You did say quality, service, then price.
That particular typewriter was electric powered, and was based on a design developed by Remington, and purchased by IBM. Marketers targeted government offices primarily, because of their common practice of using thick pads of carbon copies. The electric power could strike the paper harder than a manual typewriter.
Now's a good time to bring up the Windows registry and it's absolute reliability and ease of use. Going through a couple million registry keys is far easier than editing a human readable file in Linux. And my files in /etc are always getting corrupted, and when I try to restore the /etc directory from the last known good backup, somehow everything breaks.
Wait, maybe I have that backwards. Anyway, the point is that databases are really not the right thing for some kinds of data structures.