I, for one, would not use it if it did not have mail and news. Those are fundamental parts of any browser, IMO. This is why I don't use IE - Outlook (Express) sucks for mail and news and has no roaming capabilities. I know everyone says Netscape sucks, but I think it's decent and can't wait for Mozilla. In fact, I'm going to find out how I can help the Mozilla project.
It's also as large as a toilet seat. I wouldn't do this for the same reason I wouldn't go jogging with my home entertainment system or even my boombox.
That said, I downloaded the software, and even though I don't have a DVD drive I intend to keep the code, and probably mirror it for a while.
Having had a bit of trouble following your logic, could you clarify - does this place you as a member of the set of total blithering idiots? Thanks for the help.
It seems to me that a "Clash of the Titans" is in order.
We, as individual developers and users of Linux have essentially all we need at this point to view DVDs on our PCs. While it may be illegal to do so in nations where there exist (unjust, IMHFO) laws against disabling copy protection, I believe this is not a deterrent to any individual hoping to enjoy a DVD in the privacy of his/her home. The code is indeed in a primitive state, but a nice little GUI app could easily be built at this point and distributed anonymously to the world, giving Joe/Jane linux a nice little RPM that allows them to watch The Matrix without having to break out gcc.
It seems that those who have something to lose now are the distributors of Linux like RedHat and Debian. If they are unable to include a DVD player in their distros, then this gives Windows/MacOS/Etc. a (small?) competetive advantage for attracting users (home users, especially). It seems that it would be in the best interest of RedHat, Caldera, SuSe, Debian, Corel, Winlinux (haha) to come together and either fight the necessary legal battle or to chip in to pay whatever extortion fees are necessary to the DVD consortium for a player key. I doubt the consortium would agree to the latter. Personally, I prefer the former as it will (I hope) defend the freedom of all of us. Too bad the defense of freedom is so fscking expensive.
Will these companies step up to the plate? Or is Linux going to be faced with sticking to its hobbyist/enthusiast roots WRT this issue?
OK, so what if there was a web page set up (or even a little server with a little protocol on a little port) with title keys. No need for all the other manufacturer key crap. One person (per title) cracks the title key in the privacy of his/her home, posts it anonymously to the server. No one can sue the server admin for having a collection of numbers. Debian and RedHat and the like can distribute a player that uses the key to play the movie and don't have to worry about being sued for defeating copy protection.
Well, you wouldn't be able to "convert" your forms, per se, but if you want simple database access for your system, I highly recommend PHP. They have some nice tools for database connectivity with many easy-to-use APIs.
But then who do you know of that consumes 10 pounds worth of Nutrasweet, drinks 300 gallons of Mountain Dew and stays erect 24 hours a day, 365 days a year doped up on Viagara?
As there really are no good metrics to measure such a thing as complex as an operating system on a general purpose computer, all you're going to get is anecdotes. You can read these all day and you may still not get anywhere. Every product has its limitations, like any other tool, and taking these into account, you can use all of them to your advantage.
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You use black and white? Wussy. I just use black. Even easier on the eyes. You should see how much code I crank out!
when is the last time you used a cube while working in real life?
Well, I drove to work in one. The fan sitting on my desk, along with the CD jewel cases, picture frames, speakers, monitors, my phone, and the computer cases on the floor are all essentially cubes. I didn't see anything on the site, BTW, restricting anything to a cube. In fact the design articles in the "resource" area spoke to the contrary.
the point of a 3d interface is to have something relatable to real life, which is undoubtably pretty 3d. my solution? use windows as pages. we all have desks with large amounts of pages in binders, we shuffle them around, stack them, move others away so we can focus on a particular one or hold two together to compare them as such. this is how we work with windows as well. so why not just move it in the other dimension? use real life as a metaphor. you're sitting at a desk shuffling windows around. of course you can affect physics to act as real life and lay them down on a table (bend them (cool)) throw them in a pile, etc. you could elaborate on this metaphor endlessly. how would you simulate a cursor? a stylus. how would you copy and paste? like a highlighter. highlight what you want and place it elsewhere.
Sounds a lot like Microsoft Bob. Can't wait. I always hoped that Bob would get ported to Linux. I'll be releasing BobWM 0.0.0.0.1 later today, as a matter of fact. Not.
I think replicating physical objects in virtual space should be met with a healthy dose of skepticism. Physical objects have a certain amount of utility, but they also have a certain amount of limitation. Sure, a woodchuck could chuck wood in cyberspace, but why would it?
25% of American women will be raped at least once in their life.
I've heard this figure numerous times in my life, sometimes by people I respect. I'd like to see some solid data on this for once. Can you back this up - pointers to journal articles, etc.? Thanks.
The point of having children is children. I boggle at having to explain this; I'll swipe Louis Armstrong's answer: "If you have to ask, man, you'll never know."
Indeed. And to think they're not teaching evolution in Kansas. All those school board flunkies have to do is log on to/. or alt.support.childfree to see examples of "survival of the fittest." They're easy to see - do a ctrl-f on "breeder".
I can't imagine a religion embracing people having less children. That religion sure wouldn't last long, would it? I suppose you could argue that my religion, Unitarian Universalism, embraces this in a sense.
It seems to me that we've done this - in Chicago (and probably elsewhere), they're called "The Projects." My understanding is that these were once considered the lap of luxury. Now they're nasty, gang-run, shitholes in which no one feels safe and many people die annually of gunshot wounds. I'm not necessarily saying that the architecture is the cause of the decay, but I do think that cramping people up into boxes like that adds to social anxiety.
Seems to me that the way to survive is to simply have less people (and to consume less while we're here). For my part, I negotiated with my wife before we were married that we'd have no more than 2 kids. I wanted one - she wanted 3. If all couples had only 2 kids, my understanding is that the population would decline slowly due to our old pals death and disease. Luckilly for the earth, we're not having much luck making the second one right now.
I'd hate to imagine the elevator ride in the aforementioned 640,000-person UrboCube!
But a laptop doesn't run for a month and a half on 2 AAA batteries.
But a laptop isn't always "on" (Don't even start with "suspend")
But a laptop can't be used with one hand.
But a laptop won't fit in my pocket.
A brand new Palm can be had for under $200. A brand new laptop can hardly be had for under $1000. A used P150 laptop can hardly be had for $500 - check eBay.
It is little more than a day planner/phone list. Ah, the beauty of non-bloatware.
I wasn't sleeping. Nor were any of the other/. readers AFAICT
Personally I think this is the only thing that would keep linux a contender
Contender. A contender for what? Linux does what it does quite well and Windows (NT, anyway) does what it does pretty well too. What's the "goal" that is being sought here? Linux (note, I didn't say Red Hat) has no stockholders. When all the hype is swept away, it still does what it does and unlike Amiga, OS/2 or others, no decision will come from On High to "kill it." It'll just keep building and improving, probably largely independently of what Micros~1 decides to do.
Wake up and realize linux is a collective piece of betaware built on 30 year old tech that is not suitable for most desktops
Betaware. If betaware means software with bugs (I prefer the term defects), then, yes, Linux is betaware. As is Windows, DOS, Doom, Unicenter and any other piece of complex software. If you are trying to imply that Linux is less stable or has more defects than Windows, you'll have to do a better sales job than that as you've provided no evidence of such a claim, only invective.
30 year old technology. Any widely used technology (Linux, MVS, Windows, for example) is going to be based on proven technology. Windows NT is based on VMS. Linux is based on Unix, MVS is, well, MVS. All of these technologies are based on 50ish year old technology - the transistor. The transistor is based on 150ish year old technology - electricity. If you're trying to imply that somehow Linux is fatally flawed because it uses established methodologies, you'll have to jump in the kettle yourself or provide alternate examples.
I, for one, would not use it if it did not have mail and news. Those are fundamental parts of any browser, IMO. This is why I don't use IE - Outlook (Express) sucks for mail and news and has no roaming capabilities. I know everyone says Netscape sucks, but I think it's decent and can't wait for Mozilla. In fact, I'm going to find out how I can help the Mozilla project.
...two sets of Nickel Metal Hydroxide...
Are these the batteries that taste exactly like Oreo cookies?
YEAH! You could do things like..., like..., PLAY MP3s! Or build a Beowulf cluster that... PLAYS MP3s!
NWA has been disbanded for years. Public Enemy did some stunt with "MP4", which isn't really MPEG-4, IIRC.
It's also as large as a toilet seat. I wouldn't do this for the same reason I wouldn't go jogging with my home entertainment system or even my boombox.
That said, I downloaded the software, and even though I don't have a DVD drive I intend to keep the code, and probably mirror it for a while.
Having had a bit of trouble following your logic, could you clarify - does this place you as a member of the set of total blithering idiots? Thanks for the help.
It seems to me that a "Clash of the Titans" is in order.
We, as individual developers and users of Linux have essentially all we need at this point to view DVDs on our PCs. While it may be illegal to do so in nations where there exist (unjust, IMHFO) laws against disabling copy protection, I believe this is not a deterrent to any individual hoping to enjoy a DVD in the privacy of his/her home. The code is indeed in a primitive state, but a nice little GUI app could easily be built at this point and distributed anonymously to the world, giving Joe/Jane linux a nice little RPM that allows them to watch The Matrix without having to break out gcc.
It seems that those who have something to lose now are the distributors of Linux like RedHat and Debian. If they are unable to include a DVD player in their distros, then this gives Windows/MacOS/Etc. a (small?) competetive advantage for attracting users (home users, especially). It seems that it would be in the best interest of RedHat, Caldera, SuSe, Debian, Corel, Winlinux (haha) to come together and either fight the necessary legal battle or to chip in to pay whatever extortion fees are necessary to the DVD consortium for a player key. I doubt the consortium would agree to the latter. Personally, I prefer the former as it will (I hope) defend the freedom of all of us. Too bad the defense of freedom is so fscking expensive.
Will these companies step up to the plate? Or is Linux going to be faced with sticking to its hobbyist/enthusiast roots WRT this issue?
Or Natalie Portman, Topless or Hank the Angry, Drunken Dwarf, for God's sake. Now that'd be an interesting piece on MSNBC!
OK, so what if there was a web page set up (or even a little server with a little protocol on a little port) with title keys. No need for all the other manufacturer key crap. One person (per title) cracks the title key in the privacy of his/her home, posts it anonymously to the server. No one can sue the server admin for having a collection of numbers. Debian and RedHat and the like can distribute a player that uses the key to play the movie and don't have to worry about being sued for defeating copy protection.
IANAL, so this is probably chock-full o' holes.
Well, you wouldn't be able to "convert" your forms, per se, but if you want simple database access for your system, I highly recommend PHP. They have some nice tools for database connectivity with many easy-to-use APIs.
But then who do you know of that consumes 10 pounds worth of Nutrasweet, drinks 300 gallons of Mountain Dew and stays erect 24 hours a day, 365 days a year doped up on Viagara?
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Cmdr. Taco, of course! How else would one run
(It's hear, hear)
As there really are no good metrics to measure such a thing as complex as an operating system on a general purpose computer, all you're going to get is anecdotes. You can read these all day and you may still not get anywhere. Every product has its limitations, like any other tool, and taking these into account, you can use all of them to your advantage.
You use black and white? Wussy. I just use black. Even easier on the eyes. You should see how much code I crank out!
when is the last time you used a cube while working in real life?
Well, I drove to work in one. The fan sitting on my desk, along with the CD jewel cases, picture frames, speakers, monitors, my phone, and the computer cases on the floor are all essentially cubes. I didn't see anything on the site, BTW, restricting anything to a cube. In fact the design articles in the "resource" area spoke to the contrary.
the point of a 3d interface is to have something relatable to real life, which is undoubtably pretty 3d. my solution? use windows as pages. we all have desks with large amounts of pages in binders, we shuffle them around, stack them, move others away so we can focus on a particular one or hold two together to compare them as such. this is how we work with windows as well. so why not just move it in the other dimension? use real life as a metaphor. you're sitting at a desk shuffling windows around. of course you can affect physics to act as real life and lay them down on a table (bend them (cool)) throw them in a pile, etc. you could elaborate on this metaphor endlessly. how would you simulate a cursor? a stylus. how would you copy and paste? like a highlighter. highlight what you want and place it elsewhere.
Sounds a lot like Microsoft Bob. Can't wait. I always hoped that Bob would get ported to Linux. I'll be releasing BobWM 0.0.0.0.1 later today, as a matter of fact. Not.
I think replicating physical objects in virtual space should be met with a healthy dose of skepticism. Physical objects have a certain amount of utility, but they also have a certain amount of limitation. Sure, a woodchuck could chuck wood in cyberspace, but why would it?
25% of American women will be raped at least once in their life.
I've heard this figure numerous times in my life, sometimes by people I respect. I'd like to see some solid data on this for once. Can you back this up - pointers to journal articles, etc.? Thanks.
6. Macromedia Dreamweaver
7. Quicken
8. Mastercook
9. Greeting Card Workshop (no, really)
10. Kodak DC40 connectivity
11. SQL-Station
I look forward to ports/equivalent apps for all of these someday.
Doubtful.
*** OLD UNBREAKABLE CRYPTO ALGORITHM ***
One time pad. See "Applied Cryptography" for more detail.
Off the top of my head:
:-)
Big Bird
Elmo
Oscar
Grover
Cookie Monster
Baby Bear
Snuffleufagus
Kermit
Telly
Guy Smiley
Of course, I have a 2 year old and am currently wearing a Tinky Winky (Teletubbies) costume
This was not a crack. It was (and still is) a script that regurgitates whatever is passed in the URL as CGI variables.
The point of having children is children. I boggle at having to explain this; I'll swipe Louis Armstrong's answer: "If you have to ask, man, you'll never know."
/. or alt.support.childfree to see examples of "survival of the fittest." They're easy to see - do a ctrl-f on "breeder".
Indeed. And to think they're not teaching evolution in Kansas. All those school board flunkies have to do is log on to
I can't imagine a religion embracing people having less children. That religion sure wouldn't last long, would it? I suppose you could argue that my religion, Unitarian Universalism, embraces this in a sense.
It seems to me that we've done this - in Chicago (and probably elsewhere), they're called "The Projects." My understanding is that these were once considered the lap of luxury. Now they're nasty, gang-run, shitholes in which no one feels safe and many people die annually of gunshot wounds. I'm not necessarily saying that the architecture is the cause of the decay, but I do think that cramping people up into boxes like that adds to social anxiety.
Seems to me that the way to survive is to simply have less people (and to consume less while we're here). For my part, I negotiated with my wife before we were married that we'd have no more than 2 kids. I wanted one - she wanted 3. If all couples had only 2 kids, my understanding is that the population would decline slowly due to our old pals death and disease. Luckilly for the earth, we're not having much luck making the second one right now.
I'd hate to imagine the elevator ride in the aforementioned 640,000-person UrboCube!
But a laptop doesn't run for a month and a half on 2 AAA batteries.
But a laptop isn't always "on" (Don't even start with "suspend")
But a laptop can't be used with one hand.
But a laptop won't fit in my pocket.
A brand new Palm can be had for under $200. A brand new laptop can hardly be had for under $1000. A used P150 laptop can hardly be had for $500 - check eBay.
It is little more than a day planner/phone list. Ah, the beauty of non-bloatware.
I wasn't sleeping. Nor were any of the other /. readers AFAICT
Personally I think this is the only thing that would keep linux a contender
Contender. A contender for what? Linux does what it does quite well and Windows (NT, anyway) does what it does pretty well too. What's the "goal" that is being sought here? Linux (note, I didn't say Red Hat) has no stockholders. When all the hype is swept away, it still does what it does and unlike Amiga, OS/2 or others, no decision will come from On High to "kill it." It'll just keep building and improving, probably largely independently of what Micros~1 decides to do.
Wake up and realize linux is a collective piece of betaware built on 30 year old tech that is not suitable for most desktops
Betaware. If betaware means software with bugs (I prefer the term defects), then, yes, Linux is betaware. As is Windows, DOS, Doom, Unicenter and any other piece of complex software. If you are trying to imply that Linux is less stable or has more defects than Windows, you'll have to do a better sales job than that as you've provided no evidence of such a claim, only invective.
30 year old technology. Any widely used technology (Linux, MVS, Windows, for example) is going to be based on proven technology. Windows NT is based on VMS. Linux is based on Unix, MVS is, well, MVS. All of these technologies are based on 50ish year old technology - the transistor. The transistor is based on 150ish year old technology - electricity. If you're trying to imply that somehow Linux is fatally flawed because it uses established methodologies, you'll have to jump in the kettle yourself or provide alternate examples.
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