I suspect that if you were to start now, and to use the SQL spec rather than the MySQL documentation as a reference while doing your development, you would wind up with something that was a lot more portable, so this isn't actually an argument against using MySQL. It's more an argument towards sticking to standards when using whatever db you choose, so that when the time comes to use a different DB backend, you aren't faced with a monumental refactoring job.
I am against this kind of compatibility. Trying to maintain sql compatibility between different databases works only if you are developing a very simple app. Complex systems with lots of data use complex queries that need good performance and they should use whatever the database can offer, like built in functions, different sintax, different data types and etc.
I believe there are better ways to accomplish multiple database support using a good software design and abstraction layers. There are things that oracle or postgres can do with one query that you need a stored procedure in sql server, or a big select with a bit of programming with mysql.
The big difference between database server is in fact the features they offer. If you should not use them, why bother comparing them?
I wouldn't say that. Actually, I have been testing 2.0 beta2 and I am quite surprised with the cross browser compatibility. Treeviews, menus and many other stuff that are DHTML/Javascript dependant work fine on Firefox and Opera.
Even things like the old "smart navigation" that allows maintain position in postbacks are more flexible and cross-browser compatible.
Checkin' Microsoft Feedback Center, I saw many "bug fixes" about this kind of thing and MS seems to be working to make ASP.NET much more standards compliant than 1.1 was.
For up-to-date web-based administration of PostgreSQL, try phpPgAdmin
It says support for 8.0 beta 4... not even RCs.
If the code is up-to-date, the site really isn't.
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you're placing the blame on linux.
I'm not blaming anyone here, just exposing a fact. Don't get me wrong...
Microsoft doesn't need to make drivers for every hardware because they make it very easy for the manufacturers create and distribute them... API compatibility, standard library base. Some weeks ago I could make a video card work in Windows 2000 with win98 drivers. If i'm using linux 2.6.5 and switch to 2.6.8, many things stop working.
Many manufacturers doesn't make drivers for linux because it's hard to distribute, hard to mantain... or you release the source code or you have to compile one version of your driver for every version of the kernel * every kind of distribution.
The drivers on the cd were bad. That's not an "everything works" scenario.
Didn't say it's perfect. I said it's a better way to solve things for most user. Believe, most users will prefer to download 400Mb or to wait 1 weeks for a CD (you can call HP and ask for them) than downloading 4 or 5.tar.gz files and compiling them...
Don't take critics as offense. Instead, try to understand why people complain about it and try to make it better. Apps like Gnome/KDE didn't get where they are by ignoring what users want...
No, it's not it. I understand what he is telling. Although i'm mostly a window user, i've built LFS a couple times, and played with slackware and gentoo for a long time.
We all know distributions are very "smart" detecting hardware and auto-configuring the system. But it's far from what windows provides for the end user.
Take Knoppix for example... Run it in your computer today and it detects everything. Buy a new PCI card that doesn't have it's drivers already compiled on the CD and you are screwed. You have 2 choices: Try to understand how modules and kernel works and how to recompile and load them by hand or wait until the next version of knoppix that MAYBE has the new drivers.
Linux still has this problem: Download Mandrake and never step in the grass, follow all the instructions so you never hurt yourself, or take a full month of FAQs and a great tour at TLDP to understand how to make that sweet little camera you bought work with your distribution that doesn't come with gphoto precompiled.
Same problem for Apps. Wait until your distribution provide a precompiled package or learn to compile things (what is very frustrating for those who doesn't even know how a programing language works).
I know distributions like Gentoo or even Knoppix are doing a great job, but it's not what most "windows power users" want. They can learn how to compile stuff and make it work.
But when all you want is listen to music or see a movie and you discover that your version of "XXX" wasn't compiled with "--with-lib-yyy" and you must manually recompile the thing just because your distribution doesn't support "lib-yyy" by default... Well, you must agree that "download big codec pack -> click click click -> everything works" is a much better option.
I remember when I had an 80Gb HD and I needed to buy about 50 CDs to free my hard drive of all the junk i download everyday. So I decided to buy an DVD-Writer and a new 250Gb HD.
What happened is that i just moved everything from my old drive to the new one. Nowadays I have about 200Gb of stuff in the hard drive that I have no idea when i'm gonna use. I would need about 50 DVDs to free the space... great progress!
Now, even with this 30gb discs, i would need 7 discs to backup my stuff.:-( Maybe I should just buy another 250Gb drive...
1. Profile, preferences, rules, contacts, etc are easy to backup. You can have all your files in one place and you choose where.
2. IMAP support in Outlook really sucks... in a way i can`t even describe it. Thunderbird is perfect with IMAP, and no need to purge messages manually...
3. Saved Search folders in 0.9 are great. They are like views in databases, but for your messages.
4. RSS support to keep you up with the news.
5. Great extensions makes Thunderbird even better.
I don`t think so. Personally, i love to play these kind of games with the keyboard. It`s just so much simpler... just need to get used to it. Specially king of fighters. Mortal Kombat is perfect, because all of the fatalities are so much simpler to make with separate keys...
Nowadays I can`t even get a joystick to play something, it never has the keys in the position i like.
I think other companies are right in movin on and letting backward compatibility behind. This is a new kind of app. Backward compatibility will bring complexity to the implementation, and probably there will be a lot of things that could be done better but won't to mantain compatibility...
And if it's right that W3C rejected it, they don't have support of almost anybody right?
Searching for "Xfree86 Xfree86" works perfectly and the first result is xfree86.org.
Hmmm... maybe microsoft is worried about people looking for free pictures of 86 years old nude ladies. Why not???
Slashdot Mirror
And as the http servers in the download page are not responding anymore, here are the links for the torrents:
- 5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent- 5.10-live-i386.iso.torrent
- 5.10-install-amd64.iso.torrent- 5.10-live-amd64.iso.torrent
ftp://82.211.81.152/releases/kubuntu/5.10/kubuntu
ftp://82.211.81.152/releases/kubuntu/5.10/kubuntu
ftp://82.211.81.152/releases/kubuntu/5.10/kubuntu
ftp://82.211.81.152/releases/kubuntu/5.10/kubuntu
I suspect that if you were to start now, and to use the SQL spec rather than the MySQL documentation as a reference while doing your development, you would wind up with something that was a lot more portable, so this isn't actually an argument against using MySQL. It's more an argument towards sticking to standards when using whatever db you choose, so that when the time comes to use a different DB backend, you aren't faced with a monumental refactoring job.
I am against this kind of compatibility. Trying to maintain sql compatibility between different databases works only if you are developing a very simple app. Complex systems with lots of data use complex queries that need good performance and they should use whatever the database can offer, like built in functions, different sintax, different data types and etc.
I believe there are better ways to accomplish multiple database support using a good software design and abstraction layers. There are things that oracle or postgres can do with one query that you need a stored procedure in sql server, or a big select with a bit of programming with mysql.
The big difference between database server is in fact the features they offer. If you should not use them, why bother comparing them?
I wouldn't say that. Actually, I have been testing 2.0 beta2 and I am quite surprised with the cross browser compatibility. Treeviews, menus and many other stuff that are DHTML/Javascript dependant work fine on Firefox and Opera.
Even things like the old "smart navigation" that allows maintain position in postbacks are more flexible and cross-browser compatible.
Checkin' Microsoft Feedback Center, I saw many "bug fixes" about this kind of thing and MS seems to be working to make ASP.NET much more standards compliant than 1.1 was.
I'm not blaming anyone here, just exposing a fact. Don't get me wrong...
Microsoft doesn't need to make drivers for every hardware because they make it very easy for the manufacturers create and distribute them... API compatibility, standard library base. Some weeks ago I could make a video card work in Windows 2000 with win98 drivers. If i'm using linux 2.6.5 and switch to 2.6.8, many things stop working.
Many manufacturers doesn't make drivers for linux because it's hard to distribute, hard to mantain... or you release the source code or you have to compile one version of your driver for every version of the kernel * every kind of distribution.
Didn't say it's perfect. I said it's a better way to solve things for most user. Believe, most users will prefer to download 400Mb or to wait 1 weeks for a CD (you can call HP and ask for them) than downloading 4 or 5
Don't take critics as offense. Instead, try to understand why people complain about it and try to make it better. Apps like Gnome/KDE didn't get where they are by ignoring what users want...
No, it's not it. I understand what he is telling. Although i'm mostly a window user, i've built LFS a couple times, and played with slackware and gentoo for a long time.
We all know distributions are very "smart" detecting hardware and auto-configuring the system. But it's far from what windows provides for the end user.
Take Knoppix for example... Run it in your computer today and it detects everything. Buy a new PCI card that doesn't have it's drivers already compiled on the CD and you are screwed. You have 2 choices: Try to understand how modules and kernel works and how to recompile and load them by hand or wait until the next version of knoppix that MAYBE has the new drivers.
Linux still has this problem: Download Mandrake and never step in the grass, follow all the instructions so you never hurt yourself, or take a full month of FAQs and a great tour at TLDP to understand how to make that sweet little camera you bought work with your distribution that doesn't come with gphoto precompiled.
Same problem for Apps. Wait until your distribution provide a precompiled package or learn to compile things (what is very frustrating for those who doesn't even know how a programing language works).
I know distributions like Gentoo or even Knoppix are doing a great job, but it's not what most "windows power users" want. They can learn how to compile stuff and make it work.
But when all you want is listen to music or see a movie and you discover that your version of "XXX" wasn't compiled with "--with-lib-yyy" and you must manually recompile the thing just because your distribution doesn't support "lib-yyy" by default... Well, you must agree that "download big codec pack -> click click click -> everything works" is a much better option.
I remember when I had an 80Gb HD and I needed to buy about 50 CDs to free my hard drive of all the junk i download everyday. So I decided to buy an DVD-Writer and a new 250Gb HD.
:-( Maybe I should just buy another 250Gb drive...
What happened is that i just moved everything from my old drive to the new one. Nowadays I have about 200Gb of stuff in the hard drive that I have no idea when i'm gonna use. I would need about 50 DVDs to free the space... great progress!
Now, even with this 30gb discs, i would need 7 discs to backup my stuff.
My reasons to switch:
1. Profile, preferences, rules, contacts, etc are easy to backup. You can have all your files in one place and you choose where.
2. IMAP support in Outlook really sucks... in a way i can`t even describe it. Thunderbird is perfect with IMAP, and no need to purge messages manually...
3. Saved Search folders in 0.9 are great. They are like views in databases, but for your messages.
4. RSS support to keep you up with the news.
5. Great extensions makes Thunderbird even better.
6. It looks much better than Outlook Express.
I don`t think so. Personally, i love to play these kind of games with the keyboard. It`s just so much simpler... just need to get used to it. Specially king of fighters. Mortal Kombat is perfect, because all of the fatalities are so much simpler to make with separate keys... Nowadays I can`t even get a joystick to play something, it never has the keys in the position i like.
I think other companies are right in movin on and letting backward compatibility behind. This is a new kind of app. Backward compatibility will bring complexity to the implementation, and probably there will be a lot of things that could be done better but won't to mantain compatibility...
And if it's right that W3C rejected it, they don't have support of almost anybody right?
Searching for "Xfree86 Xfree86" works perfectly and the first result is xfree86.org. Hmmm... maybe microsoft is worried about people looking for free pictures of 86 years old nude ladies. Why not???