Very few people are saying America shouldn't have immigration.
Plenty of people are saying that. One of them is our president, who has said that legal immigration should be curtailed.
Very many people are saying America shouldn't have illegal immigration.
Many of us are saying that most people coming here illegally should be able to come legally.
It is hypocritical to push these people into the shadows when our economy depends on them. The meatpacking industry is largely staffed with illegals. During the summer fires in California, firefighting teams were organized as either "English" or "Spanish" so there would be no intra-team communication problems. 80% of the teams choose Spanish. So you want to deport the family of the guy who just saved your house?
So it is a really bad idea to engage in contracts with minors.
That depends on your margins. If you are selling digital goods with a marginal cost of $0, you have nothing at risk, and thus nothing to lose if a refund is demanded.
Indeed. Lawyers have specialties. If you ask a divorce lawyer for advice on intellectual property law, you will likely get less accurate information than what you can find for free on Wikipedia.
If you have a 30 minute appointment with a lawyer, then spend 2 hours doing independent research ahead of time, and write down questions and things that need to be clarified. Keep the meeting focused. This will save you a lot of money.
I'm confused. I've never been a Facebook member, but from what I understood it was a free platform funded by advertising.
You are indeed confused. Facebook is also a game and app platform. Non-advertising revenue is falling, and they are heading toward a more "pure" ad model, but they still make about $150M per quarter from games and apps vs about $13B from ads.
More recently (last 40 years) productivity has increased
It has increased by less than you may think. In the 1st World, productivity has stagnated. The easy gains came from automating agriculture and manufacturing decades ago. Today we are mostly a service economy, and services are harder to automate.
Agreed. In this case, the good reason is the American/European social safety net. Once you put that in place, someone moving from a poor country to try their hand at the American Dream is not a zero cost to me. They must stop swinging, because my nose is occupying the space.
Logically, this applies just as much to Americans as it does to immigrants. Benefits for a poor American are not zero cost to you either.
And immigrants do "steal jobs".
The problem with your anecdote is that you are ignoring the jobs generated when those workers spend their earnings. You are also ignoring the alternative jobs that the citizens find, thus allowing other areas of the economy to expand that otherwise would be restricted by lack of labor. More than 60% of America businesses say they are unable to find all the workers they need.
If that's the case, why so many still shout out that "we NEED" all these illegal 'guests' in the US from our southern border?
Economics is not zero sum. Farm automation eliminated 80% of jobs. Manufacturing automation eliminated another 40%. So we should have an employment rate of -20%. Instead we have a full employment economy with unemployment at 40 year lows.
As automation increases, productivity improves, human labor is more highly leveraged and more valuable, and living standards rise. American living standards have improved ten-fold since we started to automate in the 1800s. China has done the same in 30 years.
If that is no longer the case, why again are people defending letting them in illegally?
Unless there is a good reason otherwise, people should be free to move and live where they want.
Immigrants do not "steal jobs". As immigrants set up households and raise their families, they generate more jobs than they take.
We do not know enough to come to another conclusion.
We don't know enough to come to ANY conclusion.
We can believe of course that it is something else, but that is believe and speculation.
Loeb is not saying we should "believe" anything. He is just saying that we shouldn't rule anything out, and we should lookout for similar objects in the future.
We should keep an open mind until we have more evidence. It is the alien denialists who are insisting on "belief".
yes, and if they fail ethics class, they have to become GOP candidates.
A lawyer is in his office late at night, working on his billing statements, when there is a puff of smoke. Mephistopheles appears before him, and says "Sell me your soul, and I will make you a senator!" The lawyer thinks for a minute, and then replies "Sure, but what's the catch?"
I don't see how it helps people to have a million boilerplate privacy statements attached to a million apps.
They are not boilerplate. Different apps have different privacy statements, and if your app collects info that conflicts with your privacy statement, Apple will reject it.
I don't believe Google checks privacy statements. It could be a copy-paste of the Gettysburg Address and they would accept it.
But, still wondering, at what point the Index funds could be gamed?
When index funds were first implemented, they were too small to game. But as they became bigger, some investors figured out how to game them.
Here's how they did it: Buy (or go long on) the 501st stock in the S&P list, while simultaneously selling (or shorting) the 500th. Do this only when they are close enough in value to switch places because of your activity. So the stock you shorted is removed from the S&P 500, compelling the index funds to dump it, driving the price even lower, while the stock you longed is added to the S&P 500, compelling index funds to buy it, driving the price up.
This no longer works because 1) They have tightened up the criteria for getting added or removed. 2) Everybody knows about it so the expectations of being added/removed are already incorporated into the price of candidate stocks.
Google never did a good job overseeing their app store. It has always been a malwarefest. If anything, it was even worse in the past.
My spouse has an app business, and I have helped her with releases. It is a real struggle to get an iOS app approved for Apple's app store. But for Google, you just shovel it in. I don't recall them ever rejecting anything, even when we had inadvertent bugs that made the app totally malfunction.
Cohen's lied before and you think NOW he's telling the gospel truth?
Well, he does have a motive to say whatever he thinks will keep himself out of prison. But he is a lawyer, and they have mandatory classes on ethics, so I think we can trust him.
People from mostly-illiterate cultures have vastly better memories.
This sounds highly implausible. So I did some Googling. I found nothing that backs up your claim. I found one study that contradicts it, and found that literate people have better recall.
North Korea has nothing to gain by doing flippant things like this
Actually, they do gain. If NK behaved like a "normal" country, they would be treated like one. But by regularly engaging in batshit insane behavior, they lower expectations so much that when we sit down to negotiate with them, we are happy to accept any outcome that is even halfway sane, even they though have a long pattern of not keeping their word.
The Kim family regime has controlled NK for more than 70 years. Even longer than the Castro family has controlled Cuba. Their strategy of egregious behavior has worked well for them.
If the company loses money, it means the CEO didn't plan for it and therefore, didn't do his job.
Nonsense. You plan to survive a recession, not to profit during one. The only way to maintain profits is to preemptively cut back on staff and investment, which means you lose even more if the recession fails to happen, and there are more good years than bad years, so that is a poor strategy.
As they say on Wall Street: "Bears sound smart, bulls make money." Contrarian funds have historically been terrible investments. Shorties are usually losers.
Are there any real, specific examples of Microsoft monitizing (selling) the data they collect off hosts
Microsoft owns Linkedin, which has the same business model as Facebook.
Although it happened before Microsoft acquired them, Linkedin has used some extremely slimy business practices. They would deceive people into disclosing passwords to their email accounts, and then send out massive spams to their contacts. When I created my Linkedin account, I though "WTF are they asking for that?", but my spouse fell for it, and they auto-logged into her Yahoo account and spammed over a thousand people on her behalf, without her permission, many only casual acquaintances that she hadn't heard from in years and barely knew.
When you stop putting food in your mouth you lose weight.
You don't lose 10 lbs in one week even if you eat ZERO food.
Losing a pound of fat requires a calorie deficit of 3500 calories. An adult male has a breakeven point of about 2000 calories per day. So the most you are going to lose in one week of ZERO food is about 4 pounds.
You can do better if you exercise. Running a mile burns roughly 150 calories for a 200 lb adult male. So to lose an extra 6 pounds (what he claims), he would have to run 140 miles during that week. An out-of-shape fat guy is not capable of doing that, and even a super-athlete could not do it while fasting for a week.
All big tech companies harvest data, but Apple relies on it far less than Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and Amazon. So any restrictive laws will disproportionately hobble Apple's competitors. Tim is trying to frame this as "concern for the little guy", but it is really just self-interest.
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Very few people are saying America shouldn't have immigration.
Plenty of people are saying that. One of them is our president, who has said that legal immigration should be curtailed.
Very many people are saying America shouldn't have illegal immigration.
Many of us are saying that most people coming here illegally should be able to come legally.
It is hypocritical to push these people into the shadows when our economy depends on them. The meatpacking industry is largely staffed with illegals. During the summer fires in California, firefighting teams were organized as either "English" or "Spanish" so there would be no intra-team communication problems. 80% of the teams choose Spanish. So you want to deport the family of the guy who just saved your house?
Wow, that's a nice expensive digital baby sitter you have there.
Actually, it isn't. When my son was in daycare, it cost $800 per month. Facebook is way cheaper than that.
Honestly, people gave Facebook their credit card numbers?
Yes. In my case, my son needed it to buy some virtual Smurfberries. He bought two bushels for $5 each. There have never been any other charges.
So it is a really bad idea to engage in contracts with minors.
That depends on your margins. If you are selling digital goods with a marginal cost of $0, you have nothing at risk, and thus nothing to lose if a refund is demanded.
Most lawyers shouldn't either.
Indeed. Lawyers have specialties. If you ask a divorce lawyer for advice on intellectual property law, you will likely get less accurate information than what you can find for free on Wikipedia.
If you have a 30 minute appointment with a lawyer, then spend 2 hours doing independent research ahead of time, and write down questions and things that need to be clarified. Keep the meeting focused. This will save you a lot of money.
I'm confused. I've never been a Facebook member, but from what I understood it was a free platform funded by advertising.
You are indeed confused. Facebook is also a game and app platform. Non-advertising revenue is falling, and they are heading toward a more "pure" ad model, but they still make about $150M per quarter from games and apps vs about $13B from ads.
More recently (last 40 years) productivity has increased
It has increased by less than you may think. In the 1st World, productivity has stagnated. The easy gains came from automating agriculture and manufacturing decades ago. Today we are mostly a service economy, and services are harder to automate.
Stagnant productivity gains are slowing economic growth
There is a myth that automation is happening "faster and faster". It isn't, and that is a problem.
hourly compensation for the workers at the bottom hasn't really budged.
Capitalism excels at creating wealth. It isn't so good a "fairly" distributing that wealth.
We should focus on how the gains from automation are distributed, rather than trying to stifle those gains.
Agreed. In this case, the good reason is the American/European social safety net. Once you put that in place, someone moving from a poor country to try their hand at the American Dream is not a zero cost to me. They must stop swinging, because my nose is occupying the space.
Logically, this applies just as much to Americans as it does to immigrants. Benefits for a poor American are not zero cost to you either.
And immigrants do "steal jobs".
The problem with your anecdote is that you are ignoring the jobs generated when those workers spend their earnings. You are also ignoring the alternative jobs that the citizens find, thus allowing other areas of the economy to expand that otherwise would be restricted by lack of labor. More than 60% of America businesses say they are unable to find all the workers they need.
That kind of system only works when you have a small set of items your are sorting, and the items have some sort of size difference.
TFA does not say this, and I see no reason to believe it is true. Why does the set have to be small? Why is a size difference needed?
the items can be a different as a teddy bear and a fishing pole
That is the point. This robot has different grippers for different products.
or as similar as two models of phone that differ only by the UPC on their boxes.
Then obviously the same gripper can be used twice. Duh.
If that's the case, why so many still shout out that "we NEED" all these illegal 'guests' in the US from our southern border?
Economics is not zero sum. Farm automation eliminated 80% of jobs. Manufacturing automation eliminated another 40%. So we should have an employment rate of -20%. Instead we have a full employment economy with unemployment at 40 year lows.
As automation increases, productivity improves, human labor is more highly leveraged and more valuable, and living standards rise. American living standards have improved ten-fold since we started to automate in the 1800s. China has done the same in 30 years.
If that is no longer the case, why again are people defending letting them in illegally?
Unless there is a good reason otherwise, people should be free to move and live where they want.
Immigrants do not "steal jobs". As immigrants set up households and raise their families, they generate more jobs than they take.
We do not know enough to come to another conclusion.
We don't know enough to come to ANY conclusion.
We can believe of course that it is something else, but that is believe and speculation.
Loeb is not saying we should "believe" anything. He is just saying that we shouldn't rule anything out, and we should lookout for similar objects in the future.
We should keep an open mind until we have more evidence. It is the alien denialists who are insisting on "belief".
yes, and if they fail ethics class, they have to become GOP candidates.
A lawyer is in his office late at night, working on his billing statements, when there is a puff of smoke. Mephistopheles appears before him, and says "Sell me your soul, and I will make you a senator!" The lawyer thinks for a minute, and then replies "Sure, but what's the catch?"
I don't see how it helps people to have a million boilerplate privacy statements attached to a million apps.
They are not boilerplate. Different apps have different privacy statements, and if your app collects info that conflicts with your privacy statement, Apple will reject it.
I don't believe Google checks privacy statements. It could be a copy-paste of the Gettysburg Address and they would accept it.
Where I'm from, a millionaire is someone who owns a two bedroom condo.
Two bedroom condos is Silicon Valley
But, still wondering, at what point the Index funds could be gamed?
When index funds were first implemented, they were too small to game. But as they became bigger, some investors figured out how to game them.
Here's how they did it: Buy (or go long on) the 501st stock in the S&P list, while simultaneously selling (or shorting) the 500th. Do this only when they are close enough in value to switch places because of your activity. So the stock you shorted is removed from the S&P 500, compelling the index funds to dump it, driving the price even lower, while the stock you longed is added to the S&P 500, compelling index funds to buy it, driving the price up.
This no longer works because 1) They have tightened up the criteria for getting added or removed. 2) Everybody knows about it so the expectations of being added/removed are already incorporated into the price of candidate stocks.
It did that in the beginning.
Google never did a good job overseeing their app store. It has always been a malwarefest. If anything, it was even worse in the past.
My spouse has an app business, and I have helped her with releases. It is a real struggle to get an iOS app approved for Apple's app store. But for Google, you just shovel it in. I don't recall them ever rejecting anything, even when we had inadvertent bugs that made the app totally malfunction.
Cohen's lied before and you think NOW he's telling the gospel truth?
Well, he does have a motive to say whatever he thinks will keep himself out of prison. But he is a lawyer, and they have mandatory classes on ethics, so I think we can trust him.
Another reason tech of any kind needs some sort of regulation.
So the government should regulate on-line polls that help determine who runs the government?
Sure, whatever, there couldn't possibly be any problem with that.
While we are at it, the government can also decide what gets printed in the newspapers!
People from mostly-illiterate cultures have vastly better memories.
This sounds highly implausible. So I did some Googling. I found nothing that backs up your claim. I found one study that contradicts it, and found that literate people have better recall.
I read the title, and I was thinking of Chilie's Bar and Grill
Here is a quick guide:
Chile: The country
Chili: The name of the bar & grill
Chilie: (What your wrote) Not an actual word
North Korea has nothing to gain by doing flippant things like this
Actually, they do gain. If NK behaved like a "normal" country, they would be treated like one. But by regularly engaging in batshit insane behavior, they lower expectations so much that when we sit down to negotiate with them, we are happy to accept any outcome that is even halfway sane, even they though have a long pattern of not keeping their word.
The Kim family regime has controlled NK for more than 70 years. Even longer than the Castro family has controlled Cuba. Their strategy of egregious behavior has worked well for them.
If the company loses money, it means the CEO didn't plan for it and therefore, didn't do his job.
Nonsense. You plan to survive a recession, not to profit during one. The only way to maintain profits is to preemptively cut back on staff and investment, which means you lose even more if the recession fails to happen, and there are more good years than bad years, so that is a poor strategy.
As they say on Wall Street: "Bears sound smart, bulls make money." Contrarian funds have historically been terrible investments. Shorties are usually losers.
Are there any real, specific examples of Microsoft monitizing (selling) the data they collect off hosts
Microsoft owns Linkedin, which has the same business model as Facebook.
Although it happened before Microsoft acquired them, Linkedin has used some extremely slimy business practices. They would deceive people into disclosing passwords to their email accounts, and then send out massive spams to their contacts. When I created my Linkedin account, I though "WTF are they asking for that?", but my spouse fell for it, and they auto-logged into her Yahoo account and spammed over a thousand people on her behalf, without her permission, many only casual acquaintances that she hadn't heard from in years and barely knew.
Wheat , soy, corn, potatoes, tomatoes, all are now mainstream gmo.
Nitpick: There is no GMO wheat grown commercially anywhere in the world.
When you stop putting food in your mouth you lose weight.
You don't lose 10 lbs in one week even if you eat ZERO food.
Losing a pound of fat requires a calorie deficit of 3500 calories. An adult male has a breakeven point of about 2000 calories per day. So the most you are going to lose in one week of ZERO food is about 4 pounds.
You can do better if you exercise. Running a mile burns roughly 150 calories for a 200 lb adult male. So to lose an extra 6 pounds (what he claims), he would have to run 140 miles during that week. An out-of-shape fat guy is not capable of doing that, and even a super-athlete could not do it while fasting for a week.
He's not wrong.
Yes he is. His claim is total bullcrap.
All big tech companies harvest data, but Apple relies on it far less than Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and Amazon. So any restrictive laws will disproportionately hobble Apple's competitors. Tim is trying to frame this as "concern for the little guy", but it is really just self-interest.