So your silence on the issue tells me I didn't miss anything, you just bullshitted about Office not coming with a license? And that was your main point given the fact it was repeated in your closing.
Hmm. I read a couple of reviews and I kind of like the Surface concept. I will not buy one, since it does not suit my needs and will certainly stay as far away as possible from Windows 8, but your post sounds like an unfounded anti-MS rant. Because I do not like Slashdotters to be considered mindless MS-haters (but only thoughtful MS/Apple/Google/XXX-bashers when there is good reason), I think I should address your post as it will be surely getting modded to +5 by the time I am finished...
It has a magnetic charger connection. It has a powerful magnet... BUT when it pulls the connector out of your fingers, it doesn't align properly and doesn't work. it has to be fiddled with. Like a worn out old fashioned round charger. It is ALMOST but NOT quite the apple charger experience. Almost but not quite.
Let me guess, you haven't tried it yourself and you are just selectively quoting reviews? Read Anand who is as big an Apple fan as you can find without reaching the "extreme-fanboi" status, and who says while it is not perfect he actually likes it and pointed out the fact that it has advantages over Apple's weaker magnets. Then, I can share my experience with a MacBook I got back around 2008 and its magnetic charger coupling: I could not detach the damn thing without grabbing the cord. The tiny and shiny plastic plug was most of the time (depending how dry your fingers were I guess) impossible to grab without it slipping from your grip. I immediately went to apple.com and looked at the reviews for the charger. Well, 2/5 stars average with most reviews saying that while it was so expensive, the cable would break in less than a couple of months since the users had to pull it! I did not break mine because I replaced the Mac with a Mac Mini (due to other reasons related to how it handled my multi-monitor setup).
It comes with MS Office... except if you like to actually use it, then you need to buy a seperate license. The ONE thing MS can use as a sales argument is that their stuff comes with full MS support and then they don't deliver unless you pay through the nose on an already expensive device. MS has in the past given Office for free to entire governments to keep customers, yet on their own device, they charge you for a non-cripple ware version.
I don't understand your comment. According to the reviews I read, Surface comes with the Preview version of Home/Student, because the final version is not yet ready. Once it is available, it will be a free install for Surface. Are you referring to something I had read in earlier reviews, that Office RT would be lacking some pro features like VBA? But I read that it is not a matter of paying for a license, you just won't have some features with the RT version.
The touchpad on the the covers is there, possibly because you sometimes don't want to touch the screen but it is hopelessly primitive version, barely more then a trackpad.
Well, there is no space left, so according to the reviews nothing much better could really fit. They were going for maximizing the key size, which is what is really missing from a tablet. I would thin it would have been even better to not put a touchpad at all and use those little thumbsticks my old Thinkpad had - but maybe others prefer touchpads...
Resolution is what top end devices came with, last yet. Full HD is what new devices come with now. And people know it.
Hey, you got one point. While I think something like retina is certainly overkill, Full HD would probably have been a good idea. But I do prefer a good screen with a lower resolution than a higher-res that has glare, low contrast etc. According to the reviews the display at least has some solid performance, so they got it half right. Yeah, higher resolution BUT with similar performance would have been nice. No, not all new Full HD devices come with good displays. Not even the majority.
I mean, why would the Dominion need nuclear power plants in the first place? Are they out of dilithium? And even if they did need nuclear power plants, why would they be in the Alpha Quadrant?
"Wired don't transmit at all"?? You do realize we are talking about a conductor connected to a to a transceiver (phone), right? (Some phones even use the hands free explicitly as an FM antenna). In any case, the wired hands free reduces exposure levels significantly in most cases, but certainly not by a factor of 1000, mostly because hands-free sets are not designed for this purpose specifically (having good insulation etc). In fact there were studies that showed that in certain configurations (e.g. when the cable touches your cheek for some combinations of hands-free/phones) the exposure is similar to having the phone close to your head (a little google will reveal such papers). So, wired hands-free safer than phone, Bluetooth (even class 2) safer to much-much safer.
You are going to use a 1mW (or 2.5mW for class 2) microwave radio next to your ear (the in-ear part is not the transmitter), to avoid using a 1W transmitter next to your ear. For reference, going up another 1000x in power brings us to 1kW which is the average microwave oven. Are you suggesting a phone is not safer than a microwave oven? So, if 1/1000th of the cell phone power was still quite dangerous, people would have been dropping like flies from cell phone usage (just think about the early US analog systems with over 3W radios).
I mean I am sure the CEO of netflix did not give an order "hey, get pirated subtitles - I am sure they are professional quality and won't contain profanities etc that could get us in trouble". So, somewhere in the chain of passing out the requirement for, I assume, low cost translation, some "bright mind" had this idea. It is very likely that even the actual translator paid to do the work thought he/she might save some time! But in general, it would be a great thing for someone like NetFlix to hire a well known sub-release group for their translations, but I really don't see that happening...
The whole point is that for years and years now I've been hearing that there are conflicting studies and you really should be using a hands-free if you use the cell phone a lot, you know, just in case. And the recommendation goes on to avoiding wired hands-free as Bluetooth should probably be safer. My 70 year old mother has heard of this and uses Bluetooth, since she is on her phone a lot (but of course not 5-6 hours/day), I am sure an executive would have heard this. So, did he take the advice or just risked it? If he did take the advice then it can't have been the cellphone and we should be looking into Bluetooth/cancer research (I haven't heard of something like that though). If he did not take the advice, I don't see how he should be compensated by anyone (was someone certain he could get cancer, yet forced him to use one directly on his ear?).
But this topic seems quite bizarre to me. I mean, I have read about dozens of cases where management knowingly put poor workers in lethal danger (radium girls, asbestos workers etc), so hearing an executive suing for his cellphone usage at least ironic.
If you can't change it, embrace it! People always say X is the killer FS, no Y is the killer FS. Well, this one really is.
Dark humor aside, back in 2003-2004 in my university lab we were running a project that required processing of massive amounts of small files. I had trial runs over the linux file systems of the era and Reiser (I guess version 3 back then?) was so much faster in that context that it could actually save significant processing time. So it I always thought it a real shame that the main developer committed murder and development pretty much stopped back then. Yeah, there are now faster and better FSs, but perhaps Reiser would be a great option as well.
Who was planing to mine an asteroid... in US jurisdiction? Asteroids are sort of outside the US border I would say... And let's not talk about the fact that we don't even have the ability to send a man to the moon like we did decades ago (or even supersonic commercial flights like we also did decades ago), and TFS is worried about what all those miners we are going to send to the asteroids are going to do??? And I thought we couldn't go lower than another bitcoin post...
Charlie is anti-Intel but he seems to have good sources therefore his info is usually correct. Of course, he is biased when drawing conclusions and you should be aware of that when reading, since he can get a little "carried away" sometimes. Also, I remember that Intel has managed to crush their competition in the past while selling a significantly slower, more power-hungry and more expensive product (P4 anyone?). So even if Clover Trail is "a dog" as Charlie puts it, I guess if Intel REALLY wanted to they could probably find a way to shove it down our throats;)
The definition of "dark side = the side that does not receive signals directly from earth" sounds to me as simply tailored to give a plausible explanation to the incorrect usage of the term (thank god for radio signals, back in my day we didn't have such fancy ways of explaining why we were using wrong terminology). Think about this: if someone tells you Olympus Mons is right now on the dark side of Mars, would you assume it is in the hemisphere farthest from the earth where there is no direct radio contact, or in the hemisphere farthest from the sun where it is, well, you know, dark. I would be interested to know who first thought of giving the explanation why dark "dark side" can in fact mean "far side", because I suspect the (incorrect) usage of the term "dark side" might be older than radio signals. Of course the wikipedia article is useless, it cites "The Fox News" and "Time magazine" as the sources of the term "dark side = far side". Also, you seem to be having a problem finding a name for the sun-don't-shine-side of the moon, and that is exactly because you are trying to redefine "the dark side" which is the simplest term. In any case I'll help you with that. It is also called "nightside" (and try looking it up in a dictionary, yep, defined as "dark side").
For something to be X miles above the DARK side of the moon, it would have to be orbiting the moon. You want to say FAR side of the moon, and you would probably not get it wrong if you either paid a little attention to your science classes in school or gazed at the moon enough times to think about the lunar phase cycle. But, no, you should not be editing something like slashdot causing the readers to pull their hair.
Actually. there will be a small rise due to the melting of floating ice: floating ice is mostly fresh-water ice and fresh-water has a higher density than ocean salt water. But you are right, most of the rise we are warned about would be due to the melting of grounded ice on Antarctica and Greenland.
Not sure why you say this. For example our apps layout everything programmatically instead of using IB and depending on what the available width & height of the screen the various items (that are either fixed-size or stretchable) are laid out to take advantage of all of the surface. So in all you have a different layout for portrait, landscape, iphone, ipad etc without drawing each view specifically. Our apps on the iphone 5 will use the extra vertical space by making strechable items (e.g. tableviews) taller, without any re-programming...
I RTFA to see why a company would voluntarily make such a claim ( unless they are an FBI front;) ), and it seems the company were contacted by an outside researcher who suggested they were the "leak" (and perhaps would tell the world if they did not confess?). There are no further details that seemed interesting in case you were tempted to RTFA.
But of course the whole case seems rather uninteresting to me. A list of UDIDs. Wow, if FBI has them, they might also know who owns the UDIDs and have a pretty good list of annoying consumers with which you can't have a rational discussion on the subject of electronic devices. So what?
Well, the reason I bought the "special offer" version in the first place were the reviews of people, with the consensus being that it is unobtrusive: the ads are gone and you are returned to your book with the touch of a button. Never read a complaint about that not working out. Also, you talked about the "low end" device, I assume the one that retails for $69? Well, I have that exact device and it works the same as any other Kindle (and basically the same as most other devices): the Power button wakes the device so the ad screen goes away. And this is the main thing, there is a Power button on the device. Are you telling me that your Power button (the one at the bottom of the device) does absolutely nothing? Maybe your button is broken? I don't have a Kindle Touch in case you are referring to that, however the first youtube video that comes up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCY0nibZ70A clearly shows that even that Kindle works the same way - and how could it possibly be any different, perhaps a power button only for turning off?? It is simple really: A. The ads are shown when the device is off (sleeping). B. There is a power button. Therefore I should allow for another option so that I am not rude. You are either a troll, or you can't use a simple device, or your power button is broken.
Eh??? BS much? I have both the low-end Kindle and the Kindle Keyboard (for me and my wife), both with "Special Offers" and have been extremely happy with them (which is why I bought the second) and would never even consider paying more for skipping the ads. How it works is, if you stop reading and leave your Kindle for a while, it will go to "sleep" mode. Instead of showing a blank screen, it will show an ad. I am noting here that since an e-ink display will only use power to change a page, this ad will do nothing to your battery usage. Anyway, the next time you pick up the Kindle you will see the add instead of a blank screen etc. You just have to press the power button and in a second you are back to where you were last reading. Now, if you like the ad (sometimes it can be something good, like a discounted book, or a $-off coupon etc - another reason to get the special-offers section), you can get more info on it by holding the center button, and at that point you will need a wifi/3g connection. Also, if you don't connect to the internet for a while, you will actually stop seeing ads and you will get instead a "connect to the internet if you want to get new ads" screen instead. There is also a banner in the home screen - I don't spend any time in that screen (too busy reading books), and it is a rather small banner. So, overall the special offers version is great. Cheaper to buy the device, also has saved me some $ when books I wanted came up as a special offer in an ad and it does not cripple the device in any way. The parent poster is either a troll, or mildly retarded and actually follows the on-screen instructions on how to read more about the ad instead of just skipping it.
Sounds good, since until 3 years ago when I lived in NYC, you could not get over 3Mbps almost anywhere in the city (I had asked for a house in Queens, a house in Brooklyn and two office locations in Manhattan one in Chelsea and one in Upper West side). Unless nothing has changed and they consider TWC's 5Mbit to be "over 3Mbps". I had tried that service and due to the fact that the upstream was 384Kbps it was actually slower than Verizon's 3/768 even when downloading. Also a bit before I left, Speakeasy was offering ADSL2 service to one of our Manhattan locations, but that was $160/month. I still would not consider that >3Mbps, because it is not cheaper than combining 3-4 3Mbps connections.
More years than what the quality of the comment would imply. From the excitement I could not think of anything really clever to say, so I under-delivered... Oh, well, I'll get a REALLY funny in sometime in the next decade! I'll be waiting!
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So your silence on the issue tells me I didn't miss anything, you just bullshitted about Office not coming with a license?
And that was your main point given the fact it was repeated in your closing.
Hmm. I read a couple of reviews and I kind of like the Surface concept. I will not buy one, since it does not suit my needs and will certainly stay as far away as possible from Windows 8, but your post sounds like an unfounded anti-MS rant. Because I do not like Slashdotters to be considered mindless MS-haters (but only thoughtful MS/Apple/Google/XXX-bashers when there is good reason), I think I should address your post as it will be surely getting modded to +5 by the time I am finished...
It has a magnetic charger connection. It has a powerful magnet... BUT when it pulls the connector out of your fingers, it doesn't align properly and doesn't work. it has to be fiddled with. Like a worn out old fashioned round charger. It is ALMOST but NOT quite the apple charger experience. Almost but not quite.
Let me guess, you haven't tried it yourself and you are just selectively quoting reviews? Read Anand who is as big an Apple fan as you can find without reaching the "extreme-fanboi" status, and who says while it is not perfect he actually likes it and pointed out the fact that it has advantages over Apple's weaker magnets.
Then, I can share my experience with a MacBook I got back around 2008 and its magnetic charger coupling: I could not detach the damn thing without grabbing the cord. The tiny and shiny plastic plug was most of the time (depending how dry your fingers were I guess) impossible to grab without it slipping from your grip. I immediately went to apple.com and looked at the reviews for the charger. Well, 2/5 stars average with most reviews saying that while it was so expensive, the cable would break in less than a couple of months since the users had to pull it! I did not break mine because I replaced the Mac with a Mac Mini (due to other reasons related to how it handled my multi-monitor setup).
It comes with MS Office... except if you like to actually use it, then you need to buy a seperate license. The ONE thing MS can use as a sales argument is that their stuff comes with full MS support and then they don't deliver unless you pay through the nose on an already expensive device. MS has in the past given Office for free to entire governments to keep customers, yet on their own device, they charge you for a non-cripple ware version.
I don't understand your comment. According to the reviews I read, Surface comes with the Preview version of Home/Student, because the final version is not yet ready. Once it is available, it will be a free install for Surface. Are you referring to something I had read in earlier reviews, that Office RT would be lacking some pro features like VBA? But I read that it is not a matter of paying for a license, you just won't have some features with the RT version.
The touchpad on the the covers is there, possibly because you sometimes don't want to touch the screen but it is hopelessly primitive version, barely more then a trackpad.
Well, there is no space left, so according to the reviews nothing much better could really fit. They were going for maximizing the key size, which is what is really missing from a tablet. I would thin it would have been even better to not put a touchpad at all and use those little thumbsticks my old Thinkpad had - but maybe others prefer touchpads...
Resolution is what top end devices came with, last yet. Full HD is what new devices come with now. And people know it.
Hey, you got one point. While I think something like retina is certainly overkill, Full HD would probably have been a good idea. But I do prefer a good screen with a lower resolution than a higher-res that has glare, low contrast etc. According to the reviews the display at least has some solid performance, so they got it half right. Yeah, higher resolution BUT with similar performance would have been nice. No, not all new Full HD devices come with good displays. Not even the majority.
Windows RT is compatible
I mean, why would the Dominion need nuclear power plants in the first place? Are they out of dilithium?
And even if they did need nuclear power plants, why would they be in the Alpha Quadrant?
"Wired don't transmit at all"?? You do realize we are talking about a conductor connected to a to a transceiver (phone), right? (Some phones even use the hands free explicitly as an FM antenna).
In any case, the wired hands free reduces exposure levels significantly in most cases, but certainly not by a factor of 1000, mostly because hands-free sets are not designed for this purpose specifically (having good insulation etc). In fact there were studies that showed that in certain configurations (e.g. when the cable touches your cheek for some combinations of hands-free/phones) the exposure is similar to having the phone close to your head (a little google will reveal such papers).
So, wired hands-free safer than phone, Bluetooth (even class 2) safer to much-much safer.
You are going to use a 1mW (or 2.5mW for class 2) microwave radio next to your ear (the in-ear part is not the transmitter), to avoid using a 1W transmitter next to your ear. For reference, going up another 1000x in power brings us to 1kW which is the average microwave oven. Are you suggesting a phone is not safer than a microwave oven?
So, if 1/1000th of the cell phone power was still quite dangerous, people would have been dropping like flies from cell phone usage (just think about the early US analog systems with over 3W radios).
I mean I am sure the CEO of netflix did not give an order "hey, get pirated subtitles - I am sure they are professional quality and won't contain profanities etc that could get us in trouble".
So, somewhere in the chain of passing out the requirement for, I assume, low cost translation, some "bright mind" had this idea. It is very likely that even the actual translator paid to do the work thought he/she might save some time!
But in general, it would be a great thing for someone like NetFlix to hire a well known sub-release group for their translations, but I really don't see that happening...
The whole point is that for years and years now I've been hearing that there are conflicting studies and you really should be using a hands-free if you use the cell phone a lot, you know, just in case. And the recommendation goes on to avoiding wired hands-free as Bluetooth should probably be safer. My 70 year old mother has heard of this and uses Bluetooth, since she is on her phone a lot (but of course not 5-6 hours/day), I am sure an executive would have heard this. So, did he take the advice or just risked it? If he did take the advice then it can't have been the cellphone and we should be looking into Bluetooth/cancer research (I haven't heard of something like that though). If he did not take the advice, I don't see how he should be compensated by anyone (was someone certain he could get cancer, yet forced him to use one directly on his ear?).
But this topic seems quite bizarre to me. I mean, I have read about dozens of cases where management knowingly put poor workers in lethal danger (radium girls, asbestos workers etc), so hearing an executive suing for his cellphone usage at least ironic.
If you can't change it, embrace it!
People always say X is the killer FS, no Y is the killer FS. Well, this one really is.
Dark humor aside, back in 2003-2004 in my university lab we were running a project that required processing of massive amounts of small files. I had trial runs over the linux file systems of the era and Reiser (I guess version 3 back then?) was so much faster in that context that it could actually save significant processing time. So it I always thought it a real shame that the main developer committed murder and development pretty much stopped back then. Yeah, there are now faster and better FSs, but perhaps Reiser would be a great option as well.
Who was planing to mine an asteroid... in US jurisdiction? Asteroids are sort of outside the US border I would say...
And let's not talk about the fact that we don't even have the ability to send a man to the moon like we did decades ago (or even supersonic commercial flights like we also did decades ago), and TFS is worried about what all those miners we are going to send to the asteroids are going to do???
And I thought we couldn't go lower than another bitcoin post...
Charlie is anti-Intel but he seems to have good sources therefore his info is usually correct. Of course, he is biased when drawing conclusions and you should be aware of that when reading, since he can get a little "carried away" sometimes. ;)
Also, I remember that Intel has managed to crush their competition in the past while selling a significantly slower, more power-hungry and more expensive product (P4 anyone?). So even if Clover Trail is "a dog" as Charlie puts it, I guess if Intel REALLY wanted to they could probably find a way to shove it down our throats
Also, instead of wikipedia we could link to an actual source. E.g. Phil Plait's excellent blog: http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/dark_side.html
The definition of "dark side = the side that does not receive signals directly from earth" sounds to me as simply tailored to give a plausible explanation to the incorrect usage of the term (thank god for radio signals, back in my day we didn't have such fancy ways of explaining why we were using wrong terminology).
Think about this: if someone tells you Olympus Mons is right now on the dark side of Mars, would you assume it is in the hemisphere farthest from the earth where there is no direct radio contact, or in the hemisphere farthest from the sun where it is, well, you know, dark.
I would be interested to know who first thought of giving the explanation why dark "dark side" can in fact mean "far side", because I suspect the (incorrect) usage of the term "dark side" might be older than radio signals. Of course the wikipedia article is useless, it cites "The Fox News" and "Time magazine" as the sources of the term "dark side = far side".
Also, you seem to be having a problem finding a name for the sun-don't-shine-side of the moon, and that is exactly because you are trying to redefine "the dark side" which is the simplest term. In any case I'll help you with that. It is also called "nightside" (and try looking it up in a dictionary, yep, defined as "dark side").
For something to be X miles above the DARK side of the moon, it would have to be orbiting the moon. You want to say FAR side of the moon, and you would probably not get it wrong if you either paid a little attention to your science classes in school or gazed at the moon enough times to think about the lunar phase cycle.
But, no, you should not be editing something like slashdot causing the readers to pull their hair.
Agreed, it is a waste of space and time. We should be talking about bitcoins instead.
Yes, of course, my bad...
Actually. there will be a small rise due to the melting of floating ice: floating ice is mostly fresh-water ice and fresh-water has a higher density than ocean salt water.
But you are right, most of the rise we are warned about would be due to the melting of grounded ice on Antarctica and Greenland.
Not sure why you say this. For example our apps layout everything programmatically instead of using IB and depending on what the available width & height of the screen the various items (that are either fixed-size or stretchable) are laid out to take advantage of all of the surface. So in all you have a different layout for portrait, landscape, iphone, ipad etc without drawing each view specifically. Our apps on the iphone 5 will use the extra vertical space by making strechable items (e.g. tableviews) taller, without any re-programming...
I RTFA to see why a company would voluntarily make such a claim ( unless they are an FBI front ;) ), and it seems the company were contacted by an outside researcher who suggested they were the "leak" (and perhaps would tell the world if they did not confess?). There are no further details that seemed interesting in case you were tempted to RTFA.
But of course the whole case seems rather uninteresting to me. A list of UDIDs. Wow, if FBI has them, they might also know who owns the UDIDs and have a pretty good list of annoying consumers with which you can't have a rational discussion on the subject of electronic devices. So what?
Ehm, sorry to break it to you, but it is better if you don't comment, since you haven't got the Right Stuff...
Well, the reason I bought the "special offer" version in the first place were the reviews of people, with the consensus being that it is unobtrusive: the ads are gone and you are returned to your book with the touch of a button. Never read a complaint about that not working out.
Also, you talked about the "low end" device, I assume the one that retails for $69? Well, I have that exact device and it works the same as any other Kindle (and basically the same as most other devices): the Power button wakes the device so the ad screen goes away. And this is the main thing, there is a Power button on the device. Are you telling me that your Power button (the one at the bottom of the device) does absolutely nothing? Maybe your button is broken? I don't have a Kindle Touch in case you are referring to that, however the first youtube video that comes up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCY0nibZ70A clearly shows that even that Kindle works the same way - and how could it possibly be any different, perhaps a power button only for turning off??
It is simple really:
A. The ads are shown when the device is off (sleeping).
B. There is a power button.
Therefore I should allow for another option so that I am not rude. You are either a troll, or you can't use a simple device, or your power button is broken.
Eh??? BS much?
I have both the low-end Kindle and the Kindle Keyboard (for me and my wife), both with "Special Offers" and have been extremely happy with them (which is why I bought the second) and would never even consider paying more for skipping the ads.
How it works is, if you stop reading and leave your Kindle for a while, it will go to "sleep" mode. Instead of showing a blank screen, it will show an ad. I am noting here that since an e-ink display will only use power to change a page, this ad will do nothing to your battery usage. Anyway, the next time you pick up the Kindle you will see the add instead of a blank screen etc. You just have to press the power button and in a second you are back to where you were last reading.
Now, if you like the ad (sometimes it can be something good, like a discounted book, or a $-off coupon etc - another reason to get the special-offers section), you can get more info on it by holding the center button, and at that point you will need a wifi/3g connection.
Also, if you don't connect to the internet for a while, you will actually stop seeing ads and you will get instead a "connect to the internet if you want to get new ads" screen instead.
There is also a banner in the home screen - I don't spend any time in that screen (too busy reading books), and it is a rather small banner.
So, overall the special offers version is great. Cheaper to buy the device, also has saved me some $ when books I wanted came up as a special offer in an ad and it does not cripple the device in any way.
The parent poster is either a troll, or mildly retarded and actually follows the on-screen instructions on how to read more about the ad instead of just skipping it.
No comment.
Oh, come on, this thing weights zero in orbit, they can just scotch-tape it in place! ;)
Sounds good, since until 3 years ago when I lived in NYC, you could not get over 3Mbps almost anywhere in the city (I had asked for a house in Queens, a house in Brooklyn and two office locations in Manhattan one in Chelsea and one in Upper West side).
Unless nothing has changed and they consider TWC's 5Mbit to be "over 3Mbps". I had tried that service and due to the fact that the upstream was 384Kbps it was actually slower than Verizon's 3/768 even when downloading. Also a bit before I left, Speakeasy was offering ADSL2 service to one of our Manhattan locations, but that was $160/month. I still would not consider that >3Mbps, because it is not cheaper than combining 3-4 3Mbps connections.
More years than what the quality of the comment would imply.
From the excitement I could not think of anything really clever to say, so I under-delivered...
Oh, well, I'll get a REALLY funny in sometime in the next decade! I'll be waiting!