It's definitely a problem for linux audio in general, but it's a little unfair to use it as a point against MusE. Are you saying that they should give up until every MOTU card is supported out of the box on Linux?
Hell, even if SBLive! was the only audio card supported, then this application (and the other audio projects that seem to be maturing these days - JACK, Rosegarden, LADSPA, Ardour, etc) is still a great step forward for Linux audio.
You're not going to see Pro Audio manufacturers supporting Linux, until people are already making great music with their SB Lives and crappy AC97 audio cards using programs like this. So a little less negativity!
You know, I have no problem whatsoever not using a single VST plugin or VSTi instrument.
Though I do use plenty of DirectX plugins and DXi instruments.....
But Cakewalk's ability to get plugin developers to write DX plugins shows that there's nothing holy about VST...If linux starts to show promise in the DAW market, then there'll be commercial plugin developers writing LADSPA plugins soon enough. Though I'm not sure if anyone's come up with a virtual synth standard for Linux yet..(unless LADSPA also covers that...I'm not sure, but I don't think it does)..
BTW, I've found VST to be rather limiting, unless someone can tell me how to use two different audio interfaces at once with VST? I want to be able to have both my audio card, and my PODxt used at once. I don't see why I should have to ignore the perfectly good digital interface on the POD just because VST only lets you use one driver at a time. WDM doesn't give me that problem.
No, _MOTU_ are not ready for linux, that's their problem (and their customers')
But there are pro audio sound cards made by companies that actually support Linux.
Not that I'm suggesting you go and change your setup just so that you can run Linux. I can't see any sense in that myself, if your current setup works fine, there's no point in messing with it. But don't make the blanket claim that it's not ready just because your brand doesn't support it.
Outsourcing is hiring another company to do part of your work for you.
Opening a new branch or division or research centre is _not_ and never will be outsourcing, it's expanding. It's almost a polar oposite of outsourcing.
Perhaps you are confusing outsourcing with "hiring people that are not American"?
Outsourcing is contracting part of your work to another company. That is the _only_ definition.
You can rant all you like about IP, protectionism, and off shore jobs, but it still doesn't change the fact that opening a branch in another country is _not_ offshore outsourcing. Even if you do fire everyone in the original country.
You might well call it off-shoring - Though I would call it relocating - but you most certainly can not call it off shore outsourcing.
Some facts people need to learn (this portion is not necesarily a reply to twitter's post). Outsourcing does not imply off-shoring. Employing people in other countries is not outsourcing. Outsourcing is not evil. Offshore outsourcing is not evil.
Outsourcing (whether or not it's offshore) can sometimes be beneficial, but only if you're outsourcing a complicated, time or resource consuming process that is not your core business to a company that specialises in it. Outsourcing can also cause problems - it adds extra red tape and process when you want to make changes, and if you've outsourced to an off shore company, then timezones and langauge add to that problem. Outsourcing your core business is almost always a bad idea - there's no way you can possibly offer a service that competes on both price and features if you're reselling someone else's service. It logically follows that another company could just perform that service without the extra layer, and be able to adapt faster than you, and be more flexible on pricing.
But outsourcing in general is not a bad thing, and is something that should be allowed to continue, even off shore outsourcing.
By the way - the bit about the US not getting UK music is more of a problem for the US then anything else. Sure, the UK acts are missing out on the larger market, but the US audiences are missing out on good music, and the resulting cutural variety. Musicians can do quite very well for themselves never having been in the USA - we don't need you. There are an awful lot of Australian acts over the years that have been extremely successful by only being popular in Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom. However, that has nothing whatsoever to do with outsourcing, off shoring or off shore outsourcing.
No, it's not apple's fault, but it's something Apple have to deal with when trying to sell in that country...
Though I'm pretty sure they're worked out what people are willing spend in each of their markets, and have set the rate accordingly - taking care of course not to make the differences between regions too great which would cause imports to undermine their pricing...
I've had a catch all address for over 4 years now...and whilst I get a fair amount of spam to that domain (just over 100 messages a day), the majority of those are to one real address I used years ago - and haven't used since. The rest is either to the main address I use, fairly standard guesses "sales@", "info@", "webmaster@", etc...or to one or two addresses that spammers seem to have made up, but have stuck. one of them is a misspelling of my name, another is "tressia" which I have no idea where that came from. But I definitely don't see "all usernames in the world"@mydomain
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I'm glad _somebody_ else figured that out.
I suspect the submitter saw "Digital" and "Rights" in the same sentence and assumed "Digital Rights Management" without understanding what they were really reading at all....
Ok, apart from the fact that you're obviously trolling, I don't really have a comment on most of your points as I've never used ASP, and I've used PHP enough to know that I hate it and everything it stands for, but I still have to question at least one of your points - "ASP includes database connection pooling, something that costs many thousands of dollars on Unix"
That sounds like you're quoting a marketing guy with no idea what you're talking about. Sure, ASP may contain DB connection pooling, and sure, PHP may not have it, but "Costs many thousands of dollars on Unix" is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Show me this many thousands of dollars worth of "Database Connection Pooling On Unix".
Unix has nothing whatsoever to do with it. PHP runs in IIS quite nicely. And even if PHP was a Unix specific thing, there's nothing hard or expensive about connection pooling, and there are free libraries implementing it in just about any language that can access a database.
He _knows_ it's a browser, his assertion is that HTTP should have been like WebDAV from the beginning, and that instead of writing a browser, they should have written a browser with authoring capabilities.
The trouble is, that you're looking at the world as it is now, and saying "it's obvious, this is how things should be", instead of looking back and asking yourself how things could be different....
Sure, he's not going to change anything by saying what he's saying, but that doesn't mean it's not worth saying.
Personally I pretty much agree with the overall sentiment - When I was a kid my first computer experiences were with the 8 bit home PCs of the 80s - the ZX81, ZX Spectrum, Commodore (16/+4 and 64) and Amstrad CPC - and every single one of those did far more for me in terms of encouraging my creativity than a modern PC does. Simply because they came with BASIC built in. Programming was what you _did_ and it was so easy to get started. These days the barrier to entry is much higher, and if you look at Windows, it doesn't even come with a programming language any more. At least DOS had QBasic - In fact, Dos with QBasic was almost as good as the 8bit machines...
You know, their machine isn't going to spontaneously combust if they use IE to go to Windows Update...
You do realise that, don't you?
If they've connected a Windows Machine to the internet, then they've already exposed themselves to 99.9% of anything they're likely to get, regardless of what browser they use. Firefox just means they wont get ActiveX stuff and probably wont get popups.
But I hardly think pointing IE at Windows Update is suddenly going to install porn autodialers and flood them with popups.
No, it's just that British English is more modern.
American English is still left in the 17th centuary...which is why they missed out on the time when it became fashionable to spell everything as if it were french, even it it's not French - like favour, colour, etc...
But that's also why American pronounciations probably refelect the original origins of words more than British, Australian & New Zealand pronounciations...
No, that's trademarks....otherwise 10 years of not doing anything about GIF, and it subsequently becoming a standard on the internet would have made the whole thing irrelevant
> Browser and file manager intergrated is very nice, but also very scary..
Why?
A buffer overflow bug - which are usually the ones to worry about the most - would likely give the ability to execute arbitrary code anyway, so functions like open() unlink() and write() are going to be available regardless of whether the browser is integrated with a file manager......
Have there been any IE bugs that were a direct result of filemanager integration?
VB is not and never will be a substitute for something _designed_ for hobyists and beginner programmers...
With an old C16/+4, Amstracd CPC, ZX Spectrum, Spectravideo, or even something as small as the ZX81, programming was what you _did_ with them. Sure there might have been other software you could buy, but you didn't buy one of those machines for the software...you bought them to play with...which meant programming, whether it be BASIC or assembler - or LOGO....
A PS2 with the BASIC that comes with it is a far more similar thing....
No this is not against the principles of The Free Market.
Nothing says "Let the customer fuck you any way he can".
In a free market it should work both ways, the company should be allowed to chose to deal with another customer just as much as the customer is free to deal with another company.
No one can force a company to do business with someone if they don't want to - except probably in cases like essential services or maybe if the company is a monopoly (note that's a guess, not a statement). However, I'm pretty certain that nothing compells a retail store to serve anyone they don't feel like.
If you feel you've been unfairly discriminated against, then there's probably recourse, but you'd probably have to have a pretty solid argument. (eg, "They wouldn't serve me because I have red hair", not "They wouldn't serve me because I was ripping off their poorly thought out system").
Not serving people who only buy at sales is a bit harsh though...and doesn't sound like the sort of behaviour that's likely to keep customers flocking in....
The customer is most certainly not always right.
In fact, disturbingly often, the customer is a fucking arsehole, and it would be in everyone's best interest if they never set foor in the store again.
He didn't want you to tell him how stupid he was..
He wanted you to prove that you are right, by _some other_ method than just telling him he's stupid if he disagrees with you.
Every post you make makes you less convincing, and shows your inability to properly argue a point credibly.
If you have to resort to the argument you have just used in a debate, then you have lost, as your arguments do not stand on their own - you instead imply that they are so obvious that only and idiot wouldn't see them. This is a technique called "Begging The Question", and it may make it look like you've won to someone not paying attention, but the reality is that you've successfully avoided providing any evidence to back up your assertion.
That's not what you said...you said that the sunfire would _not_ perform similar to a Ferrari, and you made no mention of spending extra to bring the cost to the same level.
And in anycase, the Dual G5 isn't the only cost competitive Apple, the low end Macs are well within the grasp of anyone that was going to hand money over to Dell, HP or IBM
The only people Macs dont appeal to on a cost basis, are those of us who like to build our own, since we can do it much cheaper than what Dell will sell to you for.
that has got to be the worst comparison I have ever heard in my life. It's not even slightly close to a faintly similar thing to what he was saying, apart from maybe the sentence structure.
But if the fact that you can use the same sentence structure to say something absurd as something true, doesn't make the true stament absurd.
He wasn't doing the same thing as in 1994, and whilst there were a bunch of people rendering early on, it sounds like the bulk of it was done by 5 or 6 machines...
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How is this the problem of the audio application?
It's definitely a problem for linux audio in general, but it's a little unfair to use it as a point against MusE.
Are you saying that they should give up until every MOTU card is supported out of the box on Linux?
Hell, even if SBLive! was the only audio card supported, then this application (and the other audio projects that seem to be maturing these days - JACK, Rosegarden, LADSPA, Ardour, etc) is still a great step forward for Linux audio.
You're not going to see Pro Audio manufacturers supporting Linux, until people are already making great music with their SB Lives and crappy AC97 audio cards using programs like this.
So a little less negativity!
You know, I have no problem whatsoever not using a single VST plugin or VSTi instrument.
Though I do use plenty of DirectX plugins and DXi instruments.....
But Cakewalk's ability to get plugin developers to write DX plugins shows that there's nothing holy about VST...If linux starts to show promise in the DAW market, then there'll be commercial plugin developers writing LADSPA plugins soon enough. Though I'm not sure if anyone's come up with a virtual synth standard for Linux yet..(unless LADSPA also covers that...I'm not sure, but I don't think it does)..
BTW, I've found VST to be rather limiting, unless someone can tell me how to use two different audio interfaces at once with VST?
I want to be able to have both my audio card, and my PODxt used at once. I don't see why I should have to ignore the perfectly good digital interface on the POD just because VST only lets you use one driver at a time. WDM doesn't give me that problem.
No, _MOTU_ are not ready for linux, that's their problem (and their customers')
But there are pro audio sound cards made by companies that actually support Linux.
Not that I'm suggesting you go and change your setup just so that you can run Linux. I can't see any sense in that myself, if your current setup works fine, there's no point in messing with it.
But don't make the blanket claim that it's not ready just because your brand doesn't support it.
No, no it's not.
Outsourcing is hiring another company to do part of your work for you.
Opening a new branch or division or research centre is _not_ and never will be outsourcing, it's expanding. It's almost a polar oposite of outsourcing.
Perhaps you are confusing outsourcing with "hiring people that are not American"?
If that's what you mean, then say it.
Outsourcing is contracting part of your work to another company.
That is the _only_ definition.
You can rant all you like about IP, protectionism, and off shore jobs, but it still doesn't change the fact that opening a branch in another country is _not_ offshore outsourcing. Even if you do fire everyone in the original country.
You might well call it off-shoring - Though I would call it relocating - but you most certainly can not call it off shore outsourcing.
Some facts people need to learn (this portion is not necesarily a reply to twitter's post).
Outsourcing does not imply off-shoring.
Employing people in other countries is not outsourcing.
Outsourcing is not evil.
Offshore outsourcing is not evil.
Outsourcing (whether or not it's offshore) can sometimes be beneficial, but only if you're outsourcing a complicated, time or resource consuming process that is not your core business to a company that specialises in it.
Outsourcing can also cause problems - it adds extra red tape and process when you want to make changes, and if you've outsourced to an off shore company, then timezones and langauge add to that problem.
Outsourcing your core business is almost always a bad idea - there's no way you can possibly offer a service that competes on both price and features if you're reselling someone else's service. It logically follows that another company could just perform that service without the extra layer, and be able to adapt faster than you, and be more flexible on pricing.
But outsourcing in general is not a bad thing, and is something that should be allowed to continue, even off shore outsourcing.
By the way - the bit about the US not getting UK music is more of a problem for the US then anything else. Sure, the UK acts are missing out on the larger market, but the US audiences are missing out on good music, and the resulting cutural variety.
Musicians can do quite very well for themselves never having been in the USA - we don't need you.
There are an awful lot of Australian acts over the years that have been extremely successful by only being popular in Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom.
However, that has nothing whatsoever to do with outsourcing, off shoring or off shore outsourcing.
No, it's not apple's fault, but it's something Apple have to deal with when trying to sell in that country...
Though I'm pretty sure they're worked out what people are willing spend in each of their markets, and have set the rate accordingly - taking care of course not to make the differences between regions too great which would cause imports to undermine their pricing...
I've had a catch all address for over 4 years now...and whilst I get a fair amount of spam to that domain (just over 100 messages a day), the majority of those are to one real address I used years ago - and haven't used since. The rest is either to the main address I use, fairly standard guesses "sales@", "info@", "webmaster@", etc...or to one or two addresses that spammers seem to have made up, but have stuck. one of them is a misspelling of my name, another is "tressia" which I have no idea where that came from. But I definitely don't see "all usernames in the world"@mydomain
I'm glad _somebody_ else figured that out.
I suspect the submitter saw "Digital" and "Rights" in the same sentence and assumed "Digital Rights Management" without understanding what they were really reading at all....
You also get logging in those application servers, are you telling me that logging is something that costs many thousands of dollars?
Database connection pooling is trivial to implement.
It's definitely not the thousand dollar feature of those application servers.
Ok, apart from the fact that you're obviously trolling, I don't really have a comment on most of your points as I've never used ASP, and I've used PHP enough to know that I hate it and everything it stands for, but I still have to question at least one of your points - "ASP includes database connection pooling, something that costs many thousands of dollars on Unix"
That sounds like you're quoting a marketing guy with no idea what you're talking about.
Sure, ASP may contain DB connection pooling, and sure, PHP may not have it, but "Costs many thousands of dollars on Unix" is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Show me this many thousands of dollars worth of "Database Connection Pooling On Unix".
Unix has nothing whatsoever to do with it. PHP runs in IIS quite nicely. And even if PHP was a Unix specific thing, there's nothing hard or expensive about connection pooling, and there are free libraries implementing it in just about any language that can access a database.
you missed his point entirely.
He _knows_ it's a browser, his assertion is that HTTP should have been like WebDAV from the beginning, and that instead of writing a browser, they should have written a browser with authoring capabilities.
The trouble is, that you're looking at the world as it is now, and saying "it's obvious, this is how things should be", instead of looking back and asking yourself how things could be different....
Sure, he's not going to change anything by saying what he's saying, but that doesn't mean it's not worth saying.
Personally I pretty much agree with the overall sentiment - When I was a kid my first computer experiences were with the 8 bit home PCs of the 80s - the ZX81, ZX Spectrum, Commodore (16/+4 and 64) and Amstrad CPC - and every single one of those did far more for me in terms of encouraging my creativity than a modern PC does. Simply because they came with BASIC built in. Programming was what you _did_ and it was so easy to get started. These days the barrier to entry is much higher, and if you look at Windows, it doesn't even come with a programming language any more. At least DOS had QBasic - In fact, Dos with QBasic was almost as good as the 8bit machines...
You know, their machine isn't going to spontaneously combust if they use IE to go to Windows Update...
You do realise that, don't you?
If they've connected a Windows Machine to the internet, then they've already exposed themselves to 99.9% of anything they're likely to get, regardless of what browser they use. Firefox just means they wont get ActiveX stuff and probably wont get popups.
But I hardly think pointing IE at Windows Update is suddenly going to install porn autodialers and flood them with popups.
It really is frightening just how many people are completely unable to parse the story submissions....
but you see it again and again and again....
No, it's just that British English is more modern.
American English is still left in the 17th centuary...which is why they missed out on the time when it became fashionable to spell everything as if it were french, even it it's not French - like favour, colour, etc...
But that's also why American pronounciations probably refelect the original origins of words more than British, Australian & New Zealand pronounciations...
No, that's trademarks....otherwise 10 years of not doing anything about GIF, and it subsequently becoming a standard on the internet would have made the whole thing irrelevant
> Browser and file manager intergrated is very nice, but also very scary..
Why?
A buffer overflow bug - which are usually the ones to worry about the most - would likely give the ability to execute arbitrary code anyway, so functions like open() unlink() and write() are going to be available regardless of whether the browser is integrated with a file manager......
Have there been any IE bugs that were a direct result of filemanager integration?
ever used an 8bit computer with BASIC?
VB is not and never will be a substitute for something _designed_ for hobyists and beginner programmers...
With an old C16/+4, Amstracd CPC, ZX Spectrum, Spectravideo, or even something as small as the ZX81, programming was what you _did_ with them. Sure there might have been other software you could buy, but you didn't buy one of those machines for the software...you bought them to play with...which meant programming, whether it be BASIC or assembler - or LOGO....
A PS2 with the BASIC that comes with it is a far more similar thing....
Excuse for what?
He didn't penalize them in any way whatsoever...what exactly is he supposedly giving an excuse for?
No this is not against the principles of The Free Market.
Nothing says "Let the customer fuck you any way he can".
In a free market it should work both ways, the company should be allowed to chose to deal with another customer just as much as the customer is free to deal with another company.
No one can force a company to do business with someone if they don't want to - except probably in cases like essential services or maybe if the company is a monopoly (note that's a guess, not a statement). However, I'm pretty certain that nothing compells a retail store to serve anyone they don't feel like.
If you feel you've been unfairly discriminated against, then there's probably recourse, but you'd probably have to have a pretty solid argument. (eg, "They wouldn't serve me because I have red hair", not "They wouldn't serve me because I was ripping off their poorly thought out system").
Not serving people who only buy at sales is a bit harsh though...and doesn't sound like the sort of behaviour that's likely to keep customers flocking in....
The customer is most certainly not always right.
In fact, disturbingly often, the customer is a fucking arsehole, and it would be in everyone's best interest if they never set foor in the store again.
He didn't want you to tell him how stupid he was..
He wanted you to prove that you are right, by _some other_ method than just telling him he's stupid if he disagrees with you.
Every post you make makes you less convincing, and shows your inability to properly argue a point credibly.
If you have to resort to the argument you have just used in a debate, then you have lost, as your arguments do not stand on their own - you instead imply that they are so obvious that only and idiot wouldn't see them. This is a technique called "Begging The Question", and it may make it look like you've won to someone not paying attention, but the reality is that you've successfully avoided providing any evidence to back up your assertion.
hmmm...the GMail thing must be wearing off, you've only got 4 responses wanting your invites.
That's not what you said...you said that the sunfire would _not_ perform similar to a Ferrari, and you made no mention of spending extra to bring the cost to the same level.
And in anycase, the Dual G5 isn't the only cost competitive Apple, the low end Macs are well within the grasp of anyone that was going to hand money over to Dell, HP or IBM
The only people Macs dont appeal to on a cost basis, are those of us who like to build our own, since we can do it much cheaper than what Dell will sell to you for.
that has got to be the worst comparison I have ever heard in my life. It's not even slightly close to a faintly similar thing to what he was saying, apart from maybe the sentence structure.
But if the fact that you can use the same sentence structure to say something absurd as something true, doesn't make the true stament absurd.
Neither does it make your absurd statement true.
there are thousands of moderators
It only takes 3 to moderate a logged in user with good karma to an apparent +5
So a post needs to only appeal to 3 people, and not offend or annoy the rest.
He wasn't doing the same thing as in 1994, and whilst there were a bunch of people rendering early on, it sounds like the bulk of it was done by 5 or 6 machines...