Probably the Athlon - Athlons have always done better on compiling than P4s, usually by a significant margin - the sort of margin that the P4 used to lead the Athlon on with media encoding...
Don't dismiss the PS2 as a DVD player - it at least kicks the XBox all over the floor. Though how well it stands up to dedicated machines I don't know, but I've never had a disk that wouldn't play in the PS2 that would play in the XBox or a PC DVDRom drive.
I had a rental DVD that my XBox just couldn't cope with after the layer change - it was pixellating, skipping, and even ejecting the thing and giving up. I thought I'd just wasted the evening, but I tried it in my PS2 and it played it flawlessly. Not the slightest hesitation. Combined with how easy it is to use the PS2 controller in the dark compared with the XBox remote, I don't see myself using the XBox as a DVD player again. Or a CD player for that matter (stupid gap between tracks, PS2 doesn't do that either).
> The bigger issue is this. Do you want to run an OS that you have to trust the application to not do something bad in order to prevent the OS from crashing?
Obviously not, but Windows NT based operating systems are not such an OS, at least not _by design_ like Windows 9x were. Any time you see it happen, it's a fixable bug, that very like will be corrected in a future release, unlike Win9x where there was often pretty much nothing that could be done with it.
Linux is not inherently any better than 2000/XP when it comes to this issue. I've had applications lock up or even kill X before, sometimes in a repeatable manner. Again that's due to bugs not by design, but it does still happen. And whilst linux itself might have still been running, that's pretty much an irrelevant point when all your work was either in an X based application, or in a console app runing via an X based terminal emulator. The only benefit you have over Windows in that instance is the fact that you don't have to wait for a full reboot to get back in to it.
There are lots of reasons to use Linux over Windows, but stability isn't one of them these days.
> I just hope some government will understand that it's NECESSARY for such software to be FULLY Open Source, to guarantee democracy. How can I trust a device I don't know what is REALLY doing with my votes?
Why is it necessary for it to be fully open source?. Surely it's only necessary for the source to be visiable. I don't see why it should be necesary for someone else to fork it and make their own version. This isn't a web browser we're talking about, it's something that only gets used once every 3 or 4 years. It's important that there is transparency, and that we know what's really happening with the votes, but I don't see how that makes it necesary for me to be able to modify and redistribute it.
Only if your definition of coding involves being told what you're going to do, and how you're going to do it, whilst you then go and do the typing.
But programming is a creative skill, not a technical one. It requires technical knowledge to use, but if you don't have creativity then you're doomed to be a copy and paste code monkey.
> And why did you do a > emerge lynx > without doing a > emerge -p lynx
probably because he believed all the rabid Gentoo zealots that said that it's always as easy as emerge <application name>
But now we see that it's not that simple afterall.
what the hell does -p do, and why should someone know to do that before hand?
>You must be purposefully trying to spread FUD about Gentoo to make that kind of complaint about portage.
No, Gentoo is not perfect, portage is not perfect. Neither is Apt, neither is URMPI. Nothing is perfect, Gentoo included. People will have problems with it, and people will not like it. It is not the answer to every question. Deal with it.
well, that would be good, except the new uber-Trusted movie will only play back on uber-Trusted devices, and those devices will only present a picture on uber-Trusted displays. No analogue video or audio out. The best you're gonna get is pointing a camcorder at the screen.
Though personally I don't believe it'll get to that extreme....
Fishing has long since meant any method of dangling bait in front of your target in the hope that they'll fall for it.
Fishing for complements, fishing for answers, fishing for information - all common English phrases.
In fact, the last one, "fishing for information" is exactly what this is. There's no reason to create a new word for it just because it's done on a computer.
Hmm, to me IE feels far _less_ integrated than Konqueror does.
sure, you can type file addresses in IE, and web addresses in explorer - but the web addresses in explorer will pop open a new iexplore.exe instance (which is different to explorer.exe).
Personally, I have no problem with a central browsing application for web and file and any other type of information. But as usual, Windows doesn't actually pull it off. Microsoft seem to be completely unable to provide consistent integrated UIs. Take their "Web Folders" for instance - that's the biggest piece of crap kludge I've ever seen. 90% of the time it forgets that it's WebDAV and reverts to http, and stops working. Not to mention needing your username and password every time you go into a different folder. Another case of bad integration is the "Compressed Folder" (zip file) support. It tries to pretend that it's navigating a zip file just like any other folder - BUT, right click on something, and half the options you'd usually have are simply not there. For no user identifiable reason.
KDE and Gnome have integration and abstraction and UI consistency done far better than Windows - KDE the most. I don't think Windows will ever catch up, because Microsoft simply don't seem to understand abstraction.
> know that GMOME runs on Solaris (Funny thing about being sponsored by Sun...)
Well, given how difficult it used to be to get Java working on Solaris (in the 2.6 days), when it would work perfectly fine on Windows, Linux and Digital Unix, I wouldn't say that Sun's involvement is any guarantee of anything;)
If you look at the X-Rays, the main difference between a real explosive device, and the GPS coke can, is that the GPS coke can just has electronics and batteries. An explosives device has electronics, batteries and.......explosives...
Unless you're just gonna make an explosive device by overloading some capacitors I don't think there's much chance of anyone making the mistake.
I have never had an application crash Windows 2000 or XP. I've had freezes in 2000, related to crappy creative SBLive drivers - which I no longer get with XP (and updated drivers), and I've had 2 bluescreens in XP related to crappy ATI drivers, but that's it.
I do Java and C development, and work with Oracle and multiple J2EE containers and Web servers. I also play games, and do home recording with Cakewalk Sonar, using many tracks, soft synths and effects. So I stress my machines fairly hard, but I still don't see crashes in XP.
I did however, do some serious research before putting together my DAW machine and made sure I found the most stable motherboard with the most stable chipset of the time.
Chances are, if you're getting regular bluescreens you've either got crap hardware, crap drivers, or you're overclocking. Windows, for it its flaws, is very stable since W2k.
On the other hand, I have had lockups and kernel panics when using Linux, but also never from an application, always from bad hardware, or bad drivers.
If you're always seeing the same bluescreen from the same application, then maybe that application is actually triggering a bug in a driver by using functionality that other applications rarely use.
I remember that Enlightenment used to come with a warning that because it did things that other X applications did not, that it was likely to trigger bugs in X that could cause it to crash, or lock up, or even cause a kernel panic and crash the whole machine - so that's also not a Windows specific thing.
As much as istewart starts his post with a mention of money, there is nothing in "Freely available and alterable" that has anything to do with money - that phrase is all about freedom.
Bloody hell! are you talking about a company or the military?
If your _immediate_ superior demands that sort of subservience then I think it's time to get another job. You can be polite without being subservient - I wouldn't even talk like that to the Managing Directory of the company I work for - or the chairman of the board for that matter. But that doesn't mean I'd be impolite or overly familiar either...
you're pretty much right with 1 and 3 though...1 is just an extension of being polite, and 3 is important - being direct and honest is the only way to move forward.
But I thoroughly disagree with your last comment. Every employee in a company from the MD or CEO through to the cleaner, and even all those seemingly pointless Project Managers can and should add value to a company. In a good company, every one of those employees will take pride in their work, and want to add value.
If you feel that it's not your job to add value, it's your job to do what they say, then you are not employed, you are enslaved.
Where I work there are a few other programmers - the only other one who is a developer to the bone (as in does it in his spare time too), is also a metalhead.
And one can make more money in one industry than in another. But that doesn't mean that a company is required to change their industry so as to make more money.
A company is _expected_ to maximise value for the shareholder. It is only _required_ not to mislead them, lie to them or break laws. If the people making decisions in a company decide that they're going to act as responsible members of society first, and a money making mega corporation second, then that's up to them, as long as the shareholders are told - thus giving them the option to sell if they don't like it.
Of course, the greater the percentage of the company that is public, the more say the shareholders have, and the more likely that the company will be all about money, rather than social concience.
But you cannot say that in general a company is required to be unethical, it is simply not true.
And the funny thing about that is, that software that did allow that, would be nice and modular when in binary form, but those compiling source would still need the source to all the dependancies....so Gentoo would still be in a worse situation.
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Taking the free coffee away at my work would probably increase morale.
ugh...horrible stuff.
Probably the Athlon - Athlons have always done better on compiling than P4s, usually by a significant margin - the sort of margin that the P4 used to lead the Athlon on with media encoding...
Don't dismiss the PS2 as a DVD player - it at least kicks the XBox all over the floor. Though how well it stands up to dedicated machines I don't know, but I've never had a disk that wouldn't play in the PS2 that would play in the XBox or a PC DVDRom drive.
I had a rental DVD that my XBox just couldn't cope with after the layer change - it was pixellating, skipping, and even ejecting the thing and giving up.
I thought I'd just wasted the evening, but I tried it in my PS2 and it played it flawlessly. Not the slightest hesitation.
Combined with how easy it is to use the PS2 controller in the dark compared with the XBox remote, I don't see myself using the XBox as a DVD player again. Or a CD player for that matter (stupid gap between tracks, PS2 doesn't do that either).
> The bigger issue is this. Do you want to run an OS that you have to trust the application to not do something bad in order to prevent the OS from crashing?
Obviously not, but Windows NT based operating systems are not such an OS, at least not _by design_ like Windows 9x were.
Any time you see it happen, it's a fixable bug, that very like will be corrected in a future release, unlike Win9x where there was often pretty much nothing that could be done with it.
Linux is not inherently any better than 2000/XP when it comes to this issue. I've had applications lock up or even kill X before, sometimes in a repeatable manner. Again that's due to bugs not by design, but it does still happen.
And whilst linux itself might have still been running, that's pretty much an irrelevant point when all your work was either in an X based application, or in a console app runing via an X based terminal emulator.
The only benefit you have over Windows in that instance is the fact that you don't have to wait for a full reboot to get back in to it.
There are lots of reasons to use Linux over Windows, but stability isn't one of them these days.
I'd given up. I just assume that no one can spell and no one cares these days :(
> I just hope some government will understand that it's NECESSARY for such software to be FULLY Open Source, to guarantee democracy. How can I trust a device I don't know what is REALLY doing with my votes?
Why is it necessary for it to be fully open source?.
Surely it's only necessary for the source to be visiable. I don't see why it should be necesary for someone else to fork it and make their own version.
This isn't a web browser we're talking about, it's something that only gets used once every 3 or 4 years.
It's important that there is transparency, and that we know what's really happening with the votes, but I don't see how that makes it necesary for me to be able to modify and redistribute it.
This is Australia.
The Liberals _ARE_ the Conservatives.
Only if your definition of coding involves being told what you're going to do, and how you're going to do it, whilst you then go and do the typing.
But programming is a creative skill, not a technical one.
It requires technical knowledge to use, but if you don't have creativity then you're doomed to be a copy and paste code monkey.
> And why did you do a
> emerge lynx
> without doing a
> emerge -p lynx
probably because he believed all the rabid Gentoo zealots that said that it's always as easy as emerge <application name>
But now we see that it's not that simple afterall.
what the hell does -p do, and why should someone know to do that before hand?
>You must be purposefully trying to spread FUD about Gentoo to make that kind of complaint about portage.
No, Gentoo is not perfect, portage is not perfect. Neither is Apt, neither is URMPI. Nothing is perfect, Gentoo included. People will have problems with it, and people will not like it. It is not the answer to every question. Deal with it.
are you just going to keep posting that until someone believes you or what?
well, that would be good, except the new uber-Trusted movie will only play back on uber-Trusted devices, and those devices will only present a picture on uber-Trusted displays.
No analogue video or audio out. The best you're gonna get is pointing a camcorder at the screen.
Though personally I don't believe it'll get to that extreme....
I think you'll find he was saying the temperature in the room often broke 40.
I would imagine the CPU would be hotter than that.
Fishing has long since meant any method of dangling bait in front of your target in the hope that they'll fall for it.
Fishing for complements, fishing for answers, fishing for information - all common English phrases.
In fact, the last one, "fishing for information" is exactly what this is. There's no reason to create a new word for it just because it's done on a computer.
heh, I was wondering that when I typed it.
1024 instances of Will Smith is a very scary thought.
um...what?
1073741824 what?
1GB = 1000MB, 1GiB = 1024MiB was absolutely correct.
what were you trying to say?
Hmm, to me IE feels far _less_ integrated than Konqueror does.
sure, you can type file addresses in IE, and web addresses in explorer - but the web addresses in explorer will pop open a new iexplore.exe instance (which is different to explorer.exe).
Personally, I have no problem with a central browsing application for web and file and any other type of information. But as usual, Windows doesn't actually pull it off.
Microsoft seem to be completely unable to provide consistent integrated UIs.
Take their "Web Folders" for instance - that's the biggest piece of crap kludge I've ever seen. 90% of the time it forgets that it's WebDAV and reverts to http, and stops working. Not to mention needing your username and password every time you go into a different folder.
Another case of bad integration is the "Compressed Folder" (zip file) support.
It tries to pretend that it's navigating a zip file just like any other folder - BUT, right click on something, and half the options you'd usually have are simply not there. For no user identifiable reason.
KDE and Gnome have integration and abstraction and UI consistency done far better than Windows - KDE the most. I don't think Windows will ever catch up, because Microsoft simply don't seem to understand abstraction.
> know that GMOME runs on Solaris (Funny thing about being sponsored by Sun...)
;)
Well, given how difficult it used to be to get Java working on Solaris (in the 2.6 days), when it would work perfectly fine on Windows, Linux and Digital Unix, I wouldn't say that Sun's involvement is any guarantee of anything
So how are you going to manage that?
If you look at the X-Rays, the main difference between a real explosive device, and the GPS coke can, is that the GPS coke can just has electronics and batteries.
An explosives device has electronics, batteries and.......explosives...
Unless you're just gonna make an explosive device by overloading some capacitors I don't think there's much chance of anyone making the mistake.
I have never had an application crash Windows 2000 or XP.
I've had freezes in 2000, related to crappy creative SBLive drivers - which I no longer get with XP (and updated drivers), and I've had 2 bluescreens in XP related to crappy ATI drivers, but that's it.
I do Java and C development, and work with Oracle and multiple J2EE containers and Web servers. I also play games, and do home recording with Cakewalk Sonar, using many tracks, soft synths and effects.
So I stress my machines fairly hard, but I still don't see crashes in XP.
I did however, do some serious research before putting together my DAW machine and made sure I found the most stable motherboard with the most stable chipset of the time.
Chances are, if you're getting regular bluescreens you've either got crap hardware, crap drivers, or you're overclocking.
Windows, for it its flaws, is very stable since W2k.
On the other hand, I have had lockups and kernel panics when using Linux, but also never from an application, always from bad hardware, or bad drivers.
If you're always seeing the same bluescreen from the same application, then maybe that application is actually triggering a bug in a driver by using functionality that other applications rarely use.
I remember that Enlightenment used to come with a warning that because it did things that other X applications did not, that it was likely to trigger bugs in X that could cause it to crash, or lock up, or even cause a kernel panic and crash the whole machine - so that's also not a Windows specific thing.
"Freely available and alterable"
As much as istewart starts his post with a mention of money, there is nothing in "Freely available and alterable" that has anything to do with money - that phrase is all about freedom.
> Politeness, yes sir, no sir, i'm not sure, sir.
Bloody hell! are you talking about a company or the military?
If your _immediate_ superior demands that sort of subservience then I think it's time to get another job.
You can be polite without being subservient - I wouldn't even talk like that to the Managing Directory of the company I work for - or the chairman of the board for that matter. But that doesn't mean I'd be impolite or overly familiar either...
you're pretty much right with 1 and 3 though...1 is just an extension of being polite, and 3 is important - being direct and honest is the only way to move forward.
But I thoroughly disagree with your last comment.
Every employee in a company from the MD or CEO through to the cleaner, and even all those seemingly pointless Project Managers can and should add value to a company. In a good company, every one of those employees will take pride in their work, and want to add value.
If you feel that it's not your job to add value, it's your job to do what they say, then you are not employed, you are enslaved.
Developer all my life...
Headbanger all my life...
Megadeth, Iron Maiden, Helloween, Nevermore, Iced Earth, Blind Guardian, Wizard, Nightwish......
Where I work there are a few other programmers - the only other one who is a developer to the bone (as in does it in his spare time too), is also a metalhead.
And one can make more money in one industry than in another. But that doesn't mean that a company is required to change their industry so as to make more money.
A company is _expected_ to maximise value for the shareholder. It is only _required_ not to mislead them, lie to them or break laws.
If the people making decisions in a company decide that they're going to act as responsible members of society first, and a money making mega corporation second, then that's up to them, as long as the shareholders are told - thus giving them the option to sell if they don't like it.
Of course, the greater the percentage of the company that is public, the more say the shareholders have, and the more likely that the company will be all about money, rather than social concience.
But you cannot say that in general a company is required to be unethical, it is simply not true.
C Hash!
And the funny thing about that is, that software that did allow that, would be nice and modular when in binary form, but those compiling source would still need the source to all the dependancies....so Gentoo would still be in a worse situation.