Judging from the guys that flock around her, I'd say just perspire a lot and talk about how the computer on the Enterprise runs a GPL operating system.
you could avoid buying hardware from companies that support unreasonably restrictive licensing schemes.
Gee.. I lucked out and got an iPod that plays all my mp3's just fine. In fact, it even runs a GPL OS if I want it to.
Perhaps you would feel better about life if you reread the post and realized that its not the iPod, or even the ability to play music that is at issue here.
I see a lot of people saying that its easy to defeat copy protection. I think the issue is that a court has just ruled in the case of DVD's that it is illegal to circumvent copy protection under DMCA. Of course we can do it. Can we do it leagally?
Perhaps the biggest problem here it the question of how can it be done and not feel guilty. Maybe that is at the heart of the problem. If a law is unfair should we feel guilty about breaking it? Should Rosa Parks stay at the back of the bus until the courts or the legislator deside she can sit in the front?
I am not advocating file sharing. But if I purchase a movie, a song, or a video game, I will use it any way I see fit, in any format I choose. If the powers that be choose to make that illegal then I will join a long line of tradition of dumping tea into harbors, and drinking from the wrong water fountain. I will face my day in court should it come and pray our system will be fair enough to see justice through. But I will not feel guilty.
Against my better judgement I will continue this thread
My computer and ISP are my private property. Damn, won't your ISP be surprised to learn they are your property. As far as your computer, don't hit the get mail button unless you want to actually get mail. If you are not accepting all comers then you have a white list and therefore won't need to worry about spam.
Nope, any more than a front door by nature invites all comers. A better analogy would be a mail slot on your front door, or your door knob where people can hang a flyer, or your mailbox were you get all hard copy spam that is little different than its electronic cousin. Lets not pretend someone sending you an unwanted email somehow violates your privacy to any greater extent.
Again, I am not defending obscene, virus laden, or scamming emails. I find spam very annoying. I have setup a number of spam filters to combat the situation. I have talked my conpany out of using it for marketing. But I cannot hold that sending an unwanted email is illegal, even if it has masked the headers. Let's save our laws for things that are important. Now that I say that, maybe I should save my/. karma for things that are important as well. I am through defending this one.
Twist not my words. I am arguing that it does not appear to be a crime, not that it is OK. Many people do things that I do not find to be OK but that does not mean they do not have the right to do them.
This is the difference between a police state and a free country.
To outlaw something, you usually need to show that someone is violating someone elses rights, not simply excersizing their own. A mail system by nature invites all comers. Unless someone was obscene, offering a false product, or threatening (all of which are already addressed by other laws), there is no crime in sending an email saying "come check out my sight" even if done anonymously or with a false identity.
I hate spam as much as anyone but this is true. We are talking about somebody put some 1's and 0's where they shouldn't. Is this really a crime? I'm not even sure its a violation of an RFC.
No attempt was made to destroy or steal anything. Even the theft of bandwidth is comical. Compared to how most/.ers feel about how copyright violation doesn't really hurt the artist very much, aren't we being just a bit hypocritcal when we say we should sue people who just bug us?
Let's jump off this litigation wagon for such trivial problems and start working on a way to make something like digital signatures work.
One caviat. People who send obscene unrequested emails are in a different catagory. With them you can actually show they are violating peoples rights as much as any flasher in the park.
Fascinating. Apperently he wote Scotty as an intersteller drug dealer. So I guess Bones was an addict in the orignal instead of accidentally getting shot up. It is one of my favorite episodes of TOS though I would love to see some one post a good link to how he wrote this and how it was changed.
I would not paint the investors as being innocent babes along for the ride. Anyone who would invest (or stay invested) in a company that produces legal action instead of product is just as crooked as the CEO.
This is a two way street. Many if not most open source projects are rapidly developing new features and increasing in quality because if they don't people will not switch or switch back to proprietary systems. As much as we don't like them Microsoft keeps us out of a comfort zone. Competition is a good thing (as long as we still win).
In order for Linux to appeal to the masses, these "choices" must no exist.
Masses do not want choices. They want the Ipod mini. Four buttons and it works. The masses buy a dell with XP home edition preinstalled and think it is so cool. They want to never think about their computers. The distro for the masses is the one that can actually get a deal with dell/gateway/compaq/whatever and get preinstalled with everything preconfigured and a join AOL now icon on the desktop.
So what you are looking for then is all the features and power of Gentoo designed for people who are not intelligent enough to use them.
Sounds like a poor fit for me. You want simple out of the box everything works, Redhat and Suse both have done great at this. You want serious optimization and configurability well then you also need a high enough IQ to put it together. To make it simple and easy you have to generalize and work around the minimum requirements and make lots of desicions for end users so they won't get confused, like RedHat and Suse.
The big distro are great for people who just want to get thier feet wet or are not that computer savvy. And they still let them be cooler than windows users. But lets not pretend they are ready or even need to swim in the deep water where the experienced hard core admins dwell.
After my first stage 1 install of Gentoo I felt the same way. This is a lot of fun but and great for desktop but i can't administer 80 boxes like this. After using it for a few months I fell in love with how well it works and I have used RedHat, Suse, Debian, Slack and others.
So I decided we would try it at work. We made a master build server, shared the portage directory through NFS, made a few scripts and standardized config files and now setup is only slightly longer than RedHat was. Our install documentation is not any harder to follow and it looks like upgrades and patches are going to be a lot easier as well. And we don't get the hell of some servers running 7.1 some running 7.3 and the the two new ones on 9.0 and lets keep all there different upgrade rpms around.
Translation: I went to prison and I really didn't like it. Please stop sending people there when they do bad things. It scares me, and I want to be less worried when I break the unimportant laws.
People who trample on the rights of others for selfish gain, wether this guy who force feeds porn to people or Daryl McBride who tries to destroy other peoples livelyhood through slander, deserve to have thier rights revoked. The fact that the crime did not involve a gun does not mean all you'll get is comunity service.
Interesting still is that those same critics won't even spend a few dollars to give iTMS a *TRY* before they ink their mal-informed pens.
This is why the Pepsi and McDonalds ideas are so important. Maybe some of these audiophiles might actually listen to the songs before they declare themselves cool enough to have the super powers of hearing the "lossy" quality.
I have a few of these certs because my boss wanted our department to get them for the marketing value. Now a few years later the company has to fork over more money and we have to waste time retaking tests because our certs are about to expire!? What did I unlearn that stuff or something? I am glad my degrees don't expire and force me to go back to college.
On a second note, whats up with this testing method where people can use braindumps, troytech, and the like to get the questions? How 'bout following a real educational model like the ACT or SAT where tests are given periodically through the year and old test are published with answers for student review. The answer is this is just a money making game with no serious attempt at educational value.
...Have something in common. I saw on a PBS special a few years back that the original Colonel Sanders, after selling off Kentucky Fried Chicken, opened a restuarant called the Colonel's Lady and was sued by KFC for using his name and his face to which they held the trademarks. The Colonel won eventually.
Just thought someone might think that was an interesting precedent.
I took this tack with Microsoft and said I would never use their stuff either. But there are some things that they do well and I cannot afford to sacrifice those features until open source comes up with a workable alternative. So I use Microsoft for a (very) few things that they do well (or at least better than others). Music is the same. I would love to say I will never listen to another RIAA artist, but they have some very talented people. Indie has a few gems as well, but the ones that have shaped our culture and permenantly changed the way music composition works have mostly been with labels under the RIAA. I for one will not miss out on great music because I disagree with the tactics of the RIAA. I believe we need good laws to put them in check and good compromises that give legal options like ITMS. We also need to stop the FUD. Piracy is an act of theft on the high seas. File sharing is copyright infringement and is NOT stealing or theft. Downloaders may not be acting properly but are not criminals. They are violators of civil law and not guilty of anything unless the RIAA can establish the damages they have done as an individual (which is probably pretty small). The individual is not responsible for the actions of the entire group.
This is true. Also has anyone pulled up its skirts to see if the Kernel has been optimized. Sure you can do this yourself with opendarwin but a professionally configured server-style optioned kernel would be a great benefit.
If its about the OS then why does this thing come with Solaris 8? I mean we are talking about a workstation. Solaris 8 is an OS that is still designed to use telnet to shell places with no support for ssh built into the OS. Forget any useful admin tools like sudo, dig or tcpdump. Launch X and see the ugliest window manager made by man. Maybe after you install openssh, vim, gnome, openoffice, and Mozilla you might get that archaic Solaris 8 to be just functional enough to remind you how much you miss your favorite Linux distro. For that price I'll buy a G5. Heck, for that price I'll buy 2 G5's!
This is a problem of their society. Are there not things in Western governments we disagree with. I have been to the Middle East. Geeks are a rare commodity but they are usually more liberal and less tied to traditional mindsets than their neighbors. These are the people most likely to effect change in thier country. I would no more saddle them with the womens right issues of Muslim countries than I would blame/.ers for the patent laws of Western governments.
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Judging from the guys that flock around her, I'd say just perspire a lot and talk about how the computer on the Enterprise runs a GPL operating system.
you could avoid buying hardware from companies that support unreasonably restrictive licensing schemes.
Gee.. I lucked out and got an iPod that plays all my mp3's just fine. In fact, it even runs a GPL OS if I want it to.
Perhaps you would feel better about life if you reread the post and realized that its not the iPod, or even the ability to play music that is at issue here.
I see a lot of people saying that its easy to defeat copy protection. I think the issue is that a court has just ruled in the case of DVD's that it is illegal to circumvent copy protection under DMCA. Of course we can do it. Can we do it leagally?
Perhaps the biggest problem here it the question of how can it be done and not feel guilty. Maybe that is at the heart of the problem. If a law is unfair should we feel guilty about breaking it? Should Rosa Parks stay at the back of the bus until the courts or the legislator deside she can sit in the front?
I am not advocating file sharing. But if I purchase a movie, a song, or a video game, I will use it any way I see fit, in any format I choose. If the powers that be choose to make that illegal then I will join a long line of tradition of dumping tea into harbors, and drinking from the wrong water fountain. I will face my day in court should it come and pray our system will be fair enough to see justice through. But I will not feel guilty.
Against my better judgement I will continue this thread
/. karma for things that are important as well. I am through defending this one.
My computer and ISP are my private property.
Damn, won't your ISP be surprised to learn they are your property. As far as your computer, don't hit the get mail button unless you want to actually get mail. If you are not accepting all comers then you have a white list and therefore won't need to worry about spam.
Nope, any more than a front door by nature invites all comers.
A better analogy would be a mail slot on your front door, or your door knob where people can hang a flyer, or your mailbox were you get all hard copy spam that is little different than its electronic cousin. Lets not pretend someone sending you an unwanted email somehow violates your privacy to any greater extent.
Again, I am not defending obscene, virus laden, or scamming emails.
I find spam very annoying. I have setup a number of spam filters to combat the situation. I have talked my conpany out of using it for marketing. But I cannot hold that sending an unwanted email is illegal, even if it has masked the headers. Let's save our laws for things that are important.
Now that I say that, maybe I should save my
Twist not my words. I am arguing that it does not appear to be a crime, not that it is OK. Many people do things that I do not find to be OK but that does not mean they do not have the right to do them.
This is the difference between a police state and a free country.
To outlaw something, you usually need to show that someone is violating someone elses rights, not simply excersizing their own. A mail system by nature invites all comers. Unless someone was obscene, offering a false product, or threatening (all of which are already addressed by other laws), there is no crime in sending an email saying "come check out my sight" even if done anonymously or with a false identity.
I hate spam as much as anyone but this is true. We are talking about somebody put some 1's and 0's where they shouldn't. Is this really a crime? I'm not even sure its a violation of an RFC.
/.ers feel about how copyright violation doesn't really hurt the artist very much, aren't we being just a bit hypocritcal when we say we should sue people who just bug us?
No attempt was made to destroy or steal anything. Even the theft of bandwidth is comical. Compared to how most
Let's jump off this litigation wagon for such trivial problems and start working on a way to make something like digital signatures work.
One caviat. People who send obscene unrequested emails are in a different catagory. With them you can actually show they are violating peoples rights as much as any flasher in the park.
Fascinating. Apperently he wote Scotty as an intersteller drug dealer. So I guess Bones was an addict in the orignal instead of accidentally getting shot up.
It is one of my favorite episodes of TOS though I would love to see some one post a good link to how he wrote this and how it was changed.
Dude! Stop yelling. Get Scotty the drug dealer to give you some valium.
Slashdot: where racism against Indians is OK...
I think this is an unfair generalization. Geronimo, Cochise, and Sitting Bull are some of my favorite figures in history.
It's as bad as saying we're totally US centric. Sheesh.
I would not paint the investors as being innocent babes along for the ride. Anyone who would invest (or stay invested) in a company that produces legal action instead of product is just as crooked as the CEO.
This is a two way street. Many if not most open source projects are rapidly developing new features and increasing in quality because if they don't people will not switch or switch back to proprietary systems. As much as we don't like them Microsoft keeps us out of a comfort zone. Competition is a good thing (as long as we still win).
In order for Linux to appeal to the masses, these "choices" must no exist.
Masses do not want choices. They want the Ipod mini. Four buttons and it works. The masses buy a dell with XP home edition preinstalled and think it is so cool. They want to never think about their computers. The distro for the masses is the one that can actually get a deal with dell/gateway/compaq/whatever and get preinstalled with everything preconfigured and a join AOL now icon on the desktop.
So what you are looking for then is all the features and power of Gentoo designed for people who are not intelligent enough to use them.
Sounds like a poor fit for me. You want simple out of the box everything works, Redhat and Suse both have done great at this. You want serious optimization and configurability well then you also need a high enough IQ to put it together. To make it simple and easy you have to generalize and work around the minimum requirements and make lots of desicions for end users so they won't get confused, like RedHat and Suse.
The big distro are great for people who just want to get thier feet wet or are not that computer savvy. And they still let them be cooler than windows users. But lets not pretend they are ready or even need to swim in the deep water where the experienced hard core admins dwell.
After my first stage 1 install of Gentoo I felt the same way. This is a lot of fun but and great for desktop but i can't administer 80 boxes like this. After using it for a few months I fell in love with how well it works and I have used RedHat, Suse, Debian, Slack and others.
So I decided we would try it at work. We made a master build server, shared the portage directory through NFS, made a few scripts and standardized config files and now setup is only slightly longer than RedHat was. Our install documentation is not any harder to follow and it looks like upgrades and patches are going to be a lot easier as well. And we don't get the hell of some servers running 7.1 some running 7.3 and the the two new ones on 9.0 and lets keep all there different upgrade rpms around.
Translation: I went to prison and I really didn't like it. Please stop sending people there when they do bad things. It scares me, and I want to be less worried when I break the unimportant laws.
People who trample on the rights of others for selfish gain, wether this guy who force feeds porn to people or Daryl McBride who tries to destroy other peoples livelyhood through slander, deserve to have thier rights revoked. The fact that the crime did not involve a gun does not mean all you'll get is comunity service.
Interesting still is that those same critics won't even spend a few dollars to give iTMS a *TRY* before they ink their mal-informed pens.
This is why the Pepsi and McDonalds ideas are so important. Maybe some of these audiophiles might actually listen to the songs before they declare themselves cool enough to have the super powers of hearing the "lossy" quality.
I have a few of these certs because my boss wanted our department to get them for the marketing value. Now a few years later the company has to fork over more money and we have to waste time retaking tests because our certs are about to expire!? What did I unlearn that stuff or something? I am glad my degrees don't expire and force me to go back to college.
On a second note, whats up with this testing method where people can use braindumps, troytech, and the like to get the questions? How 'bout following a real educational model like the ACT or SAT where tests are given periodically through the year and old test are published with answers for student review. The answer is this is just a money making game with no serious attempt at educational value.
...Have something in common.
I saw on a PBS special a few years back that the original Colonel Sanders, after selling off Kentucky Fried Chicken, opened a restuarant called the Colonel's Lady and was sued by KFC for using his name and his face to which they held the trademarks. The Colonel won eventually.
Just thought someone might think that was an interesting precedent.
Fusion power is here today.
Haven't you heard of the H bomb.
Or did you want controlled fusion power?
I took this tack with Microsoft and said I would never use their stuff either. But there are some things that they do well and I cannot afford to sacrifice those features until open source comes up with a workable alternative. So I use Microsoft for a (very) few things that they do well (or at least better than others).
Music is the same. I would love to say I will never listen to another RIAA artist, but they have some very talented people. Indie has a few gems as well, but the ones that have shaped our culture and permenantly changed the way music composition works have mostly been with labels under the RIAA. I for one will not miss out on great music because I disagree with the tactics of the RIAA.
I believe we need good laws to put them in check and good compromises that give legal options like ITMS.
We also need to stop the FUD. Piracy is an act of theft on the high seas. File sharing is copyright infringement and is NOT stealing or theft. Downloaders may not be acting properly but are not criminals. They are violators of civil law and not guilty of anything unless the RIAA can establish the damages they have done as an individual (which is probably pretty small). The individual is not responsible for the actions of the entire group.
This is true.
Also has anyone pulled up its skirts to see if the Kernel has been optimized. Sure you can do this yourself with opendarwin but a professionally configured server-style optioned kernel would be a great benefit.
If its about the OS then why does this thing come with Solaris 8? I mean we are talking about a workstation.
Solaris 8 is an OS that is still designed to use telnet to shell places with no support for ssh built into the OS. Forget any useful admin tools like sudo, dig or tcpdump. Launch X and see the ugliest window manager made by man. Maybe after you install openssh, vim, gnome, openoffice, and Mozilla you might get that archaic Solaris 8 to be just functional enough to remind you how much you miss your favorite Linux distro.
For that price I'll buy a G5. Heck, for that price I'll buy 2 G5's!
Saudi geeks drink tea
Dude, have you tried Arab coffee?
They serve it in a thimble and it will keep you wired all day.
This is a problem of their society. Are there not things in Western governments we disagree with. I have been to the Middle East. Geeks are a rare commodity but they are usually more liberal and less tied to traditional mindsets than their neighbors. These are the people most likely to effect change in thier country. I would no more saddle them with the womens right issues of Muslim countries than I would blame /.ers for the patent laws of Western governments.
Unintentional plagiarism occurs when a student attempts to acknowledge, quote, and/or cite sources but does so inadequately or incorrectly.
See here or here.
This is extremely common in student papers. (and slashdot posts)