Then watch every two-bit dictator wag the dog. Anyone who holds a grudge against any of the countries on that list will have a dead simple way of turning said listed countries into glass parking lots - with American nukes. What you are proposing is idiotic.
"Wow, you really have your head up your ass, don't you?" Quite possible. Still, it doesn't seem that dark in here.
"All it [glsa-check] does is tell you which pkgs you have installed which have disclosed sec. vulnerabilities." No.
glsa-check -f $(glsa-check -t all)
will pull them in for you. No muss, no fuss.
"You have to do the same thing. Wait for new versions in portage. " No. I can patch the source and roll my own. With.deb, that is more of a PITA.
"But you only need to do it once, unlike gentoo where you have a different version than you did 2 weeks ago." Not really, no. Usually when you pull in a sec fix it's usually just a jump between distro-provided revisions (package_foo-2.1-r1 to package_foo-2.1-r2) so config files don't normally change either.
Frankly, the practice of backporting fixes is not appealing to me. If upstream decides the change is big enough to warrant a new version, well, y'know, it's their app, they should know. Backports are a good way to accumulate cruft. You are welcome to your own opinion, though, and I am well aware that there are people for whom staying current simply isn't an option.
"Of course you don't agree, you couldn't possibly see someone running debian, right?" No. I can and do see people running debian. I just didn't think you're one of them, because of that "I don't have to change config files" comment which came off as uninformed.
"Um, well, see, updating production servers is something system administrators do." You haven't answered my question. You say you need stable packages and whatnot, then you claim you "had to" do a version bump three days after rollout. Something doesn't jive.
Ever heard of glsa-check, ? Did you ever consider that with gentoo you can roll your own updates from upstream and test them without fear of major breakage instead of waiting for a distro-supplied.deb to finally come out three days after the vuln is made public? Do you claim that distro-provided defaults are sufficient configuration for your servers or that somehow debian automagically removes the need to edit config files when changes in their format/content appear once in a while and you have (gasp) new options to consider?
No? Ok, then please take your ubuntu superiority myths (I don't believe for a second that you're running vanilla debian) and stuff'em where the sun don't shine. Why the heck were you doing updating a production server just to get a new version on day three after deployment anyway?
"(almost all arrests seem to end with the vast majority of people being released)" Classic research technique: catch, tag and release. throw the net wide enough and you're bound to get something interesting in the end.
On the other hand, if I were already a terrorist type, I'd probably get the f out now. Err... no. You wouldn't, because your handlers would already have provided you with a nice solid background (legend, valid ID, banking records, birth cert, the works). You'd whistle your way through the system.
Real Men wrote their games from scratch on the Commodore before playing, - in raw bytecode, using only the POKE instruction provided by the BASIC interpreter - no need for tapes. You youngsters had it easy.
People must attack other people's convictions because otherwise we'd still be living in mud huts, mmkay?
So, when I say things like "Shuttleworth's pandering to hardware manufacturers who only provide binary drivers is a bad thing for FOSS in general and Linux in special because it removes their motivation to provide specs to their hardware instead of badly-written blobs of proprietary crapola and his insistence that his distro is the best thing since sliced bread and a sure-fire replacement for Windows smacks of technical incompetence and generalized hubris and makes the community look bad and furthermore Ubuntu does not integrate with Active Directory worth a damn.", you should not take that as an attack on your (or his) nads, popularity or brains, or even as an attack on Ubuntu devs, Ubuntu the distro or Linux in general, but rather as the start to a discussion as to why it is or isn't so.
Grow up a bit - Sturgeon's law is real. and it's up to us to separate the shiny bits from the brownish foul-smelling ones.
We have some evidence that complex organisms evolve from colonies (most likely, simbyotic colonies) of simpler organisms. What if these hard-shelled, fast-breeding things work out a way to stick together and work as a whole?
Common sense would say it isn't the same thing. The right to use a thing you purchased any way you see fit is one of the rights you gain by law when making a purchase (others are things like the rights to copy (within the confines of copyright law), to reverse-engineer it (that's how the x86 architecture came to rule the world), to re-sell, rent or otherwise cede any of these rights).
What an usual EULA does is make you renounce some of the rights you had when you bought the thing, in exchange for letting you use it (when you actually have a right to use it in the first place). The fact that most commercial EULAs contain some crap about "unauthorized copying and distribution blah blah..." does not mean a thing, legally speaking, because you're not allowed to distribute software without explicit permission from the copyright owner anyway - that's covered by copyright law.
The GPL constitutes such an explicit permission (and it is not an EULA, it is a true license - a document by which the copyright owners grant you some rights wrt their work). It does not place limits on how you can use the thing you bought or otherwise acquired (in fact it states explicitly that you can do as you damn well please), but in fact also gives the right to distribute it, only placing conditions on how you can distribute it - which is well within the rights of the copyright holder.
No, it won't. Once you have a sufficiently detailed model (which may be impossible if quantum effects play a significant part in neurophysiology, as is sometimes suggested), you could run it in a simple (by comparison) physics machine - a simulated environment physical environment used as an interface, no need for a direct hookup. Maybe you really should have read Accelerando:).
Set a 5-second delay on "read" marker, use the five seconds to trash the junk and/or mark the spam, have your mail client auto-move the rest of your read messages to a "read" folder, filter on subject/list/whatever from there. No extensions needed.
You provided the first good laugh I had today. Thank you very much, kind sir.
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"I don't really think that's a "practical" issue. They knew the area down to a few square miles for a short time. A few baby nukes, and the odds favor having gotten the target. " Do the math. "A few" - say ten or so in the 10-25 kt range, airdropped - is not nearly enough to crumble a system of mountain caves a mere five miles across and half deep. What odds?
What are you saying here? A vector, in common parlance, is a direction. So you are saying... ? Sorry. Old-time eastern bloc terminology, not common parlance. A vector is a means of delivery. Those soldiers didn't actually get to the mouths of those caves so some form of missile or bomb would have had to be used - and the RNEP only exists in budget appropriation wet dreams.
"I don't see how you can make a case that Bush cares about the people of Afghanistan from the evidence, though it might be amusing to see you try." I won't try. Would you accept the idea that Bush's minders are trying their best not to lose Pakistan to the globalist Islamic movement, for instance? It doesn't matter if the fallout is a real threat or not - the pakis would be shaken by it no end.
"No, no. You just tell them what you're doing. [...] I don't buy your assertion here for a moment." Do they believe you? Does their aging, mostly automated, severely underfunded early warning system believe you when you actually do launch, at a target which is actually (literally) next door? Russia has expressed concern over not being able to tell nuclear-warhead-carrying sub-launched ICBMs from the proposed tungsten rod dropper thingys. Willing to make a bet that the Topol-M (which, make no mistake, *would* be dispersed and possibly alerted, simply as a matter of common precaution) will not find their targets if a cock-up occurs? Good luck.
"If they had nukes, they would have already used them." No. "They" (or their constituencies) may have morals (far-fetched, I know), or "they" may have only one and no means of getting another. I can build a dozen scenarios where a threat is a more valuable political tool than the actual use (including the real-world scenario we call the cold war) but I'm sure you're intelligent enough to make up some of your own. Why you don't is beyond me.
"The reason people don't buy is because they really don't understand nuclear weapons." You misunderstand, possibly in order to build a straw-man argument. What I am saying is that real-world political concerns stopped GWB and his cronies from pushing that big red button, not some pie-in-the-sky notions about what the American public would "accept" after the fact or fear of the bomb itself.
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Offtopic in response to a troll, yes, but I can't resist. "You" (meaning americans, I presume) haven't nuked the caves in Afghanistan because it wouldn't have been practical, from a number of viewpoints (lack of intel as to which caves to nuke, lack of an effective vector, fallout patterns, certain political backlash from everyone and their dog, possible accidental nuclear response from Russia if ICBMs/cruise missiles are used, possible nuclear retaliation from non-state actors), not because it isn't a nice thing to do. Realpolitik, baby, and stop pretending otherwise - no-one is buying.
Flipping burgers at least is a job with clear-cut work-hours and zero responsibility. Also, it takes not more than the intelligence and dedication of your average parakeet over the space of say six to eight months to become a senior burger flipper (shift manager as they're called). Don't ditch it until you've tried it.
Bullshit places like that are easy to game. Do not do everything requested - do ninety percent and make sure you keep a balance so that once in a while something important you work on doesn't get done - because you delivered at the last possible second. No-one will think of increasing your workload then.
Oh yea. But please keep in mind that the enemies you encounter in that subway scene are killable (yes, that includes Anna and/or Gunther). I didn't have the time or inclination to try to actually win the battle (any hits you take past, say 30% health will render you unconscious, making it obvious in an out-of-game way that you're not really supposed to escape). I wonder if... Oh no. Now you've done it. Now I just have to see if it's doable. Thanks a lot, man.
Speaking of losing... you can save the helicopter pilot, but losing makes for a more interesting/emotional story imo.
Realistically, I am going to politely ask the store manager and the two rentacops accompanying him/her to walk away and let me leave or face criminal charges (for attempted extortion and kidnapping) and a civil lawsuit. I am under no responsibility to correct anyone's mistakes.If they don't, I call the police on their sorry asses (and make sure to notify their superiors as well after calling my lawyer).
But not to worry. Brick-and-mortar stores make these kind of mistakes all the time and no, they don't go after the directly involved customers - instead they lump it under operating costs, along with other losses (rotting, mice, theft by employees, faulty hardware etc.) and spread it evenly to ALL customers in the form of markup.
This is probably a move by some idiot middle manager who is afraid the money will come out of his/her pocket if s/he is found guilty.
Wanna play spy games? Here's something useful that has been around since at least the nineteen-fifties: fingerprint-masking cream. Lots of versions, looks exactly like skin (some even crease to form pseudo-prints when dry). Never leave home without it.
Since the discussion is still open, I'll take the bite: it's because mIRC is such a pig that paying for script addons to enhance it would be like paying for an antivirus to go with your brand-new Windows ME install - today. Dig?
What if they don't? What if they just pass through, for instance, and go on to constitute much of the "missing mass" of this universe? What if you manage to place such a hole in the very close company of a lot of real particles which have almost the same velocity as itself (such as an accelerator)? How big are those cross-sections then?
Pwahahaha. You missed the reference, kind sir. Therefore, the irony of the gp post went right over your head. Wish there was an Involuntarily Funny mod. You amply deserve it.
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Then watch every two-bit dictator wag the dog. Anyone who holds a grudge against any of the countries on that list will have a dead simple way of turning said listed countries into glass parking lots - with American nukes. What you are proposing is idiotic.
Quite possible. Still, it doesn't seem that dark in here.
"All it [glsa-check] does is tell you which pkgs you have installed which have disclosed sec. vulnerabilities."
No. will pull them in for you. No muss, no fuss.
"You have to do the same thing. Wait for new versions in portage. "
No. I can patch the source and roll my own. With
"But you only need to do it once, unlike gentoo where you have a different version than you did 2 weeks ago."
Not really, no. Usually when you pull in a sec fix it's usually just a jump between distro-provided revisions (package_foo-2.1-r1 to package_foo-2.1-r2) so config files don't normally change either.
Frankly, the practice of backporting fixes is not appealing to me. If upstream decides the change is big enough to warrant a new version, well, y'know, it's their app, they should know. Backports are a good way to accumulate cruft. You are welcome to your own opinion, though, and I am well aware that there are people for whom staying current simply isn't an option.
"Of course you don't agree, you couldn't possibly see someone running debian, right?"
No. I can and do see people running debian. I just didn't think you're one of them, because of that "I don't have to change config files" comment which came off as uninformed.
"Um, well, see, updating production servers is something system administrators do."
You haven't answered my question. You say you need stable packages and whatnot, then you claim you "had to" do a version bump three days after rollout. Something doesn't jive.
Ever heard of glsa-check, ? Did you ever consider that with gentoo you can roll your own updates from upstream and test them without fear of major breakage instead of waiting for a distro-supplied .deb to finally come out three days after the vuln is made public? Do you claim that distro-provided defaults are sufficient configuration for your servers or that somehow debian automagically removes the need to edit config files when changes in their format/content appear once in a while and you have (gasp) new options to consider?
No? Ok, then please take your ubuntu superiority myths (I don't believe for a second that you're running vanilla debian) and stuff'em where the sun don't shine. Why the heck were you doing updating a production server just to get a new version on day three after deployment anyway?
"(almost all arrests seem to end with the vast majority of people being released)"
Classic research technique: catch, tag and release. throw the net wide enough and you're bound to get something interesting in the end.
On the other hand, if I were already a terrorist type, I'd probably get the f out now.
Err... no. You wouldn't, because your handlers would already have provided you with a nice solid background (legend, valid ID, banking records, birth cert, the works). You'd whistle your way through the system.
Real Men wrote their games from scratch on the Commodore before playing, - in raw bytecode, using only the POKE instruction provided by the BASIC interpreter - no need for tapes. You youngsters had it easy.
People must attack other people's convictions because otherwise we'd still be living in mud huts, mmkay?
So, when I say things like "Shuttleworth's pandering to hardware manufacturers who only provide binary drivers is a bad thing for FOSS in general and Linux in special because it removes their motivation to provide specs to their hardware instead of badly-written blobs of proprietary crapola and his insistence that his distro is the best thing since sliced bread and a sure-fire replacement for Windows smacks of technical incompetence and generalized hubris and makes the community look bad and furthermore Ubuntu does not integrate with Active Directory worth a damn.", you should not take that as an attack on your (or his) nads, popularity or brains, or even as an attack on Ubuntu devs, Ubuntu the distro or Linux in general, but rather as the start to a discussion as to why it is or isn't so.
Grow up a bit - Sturgeon's law is real. and it's up to us to separate the shiny bits from the brownish foul-smelling ones.
We have some evidence that complex organisms evolve from colonies (most likely, simbyotic colonies) of simpler organisms. What if these hard-shelled, fast-breeding things work out a way to stick together and work as a whole?
Common sense would say it isn't the same thing. The right to use a thing you purchased any way you see fit is one of the rights you gain by law when making a purchase (others are things like the rights to copy (within the confines of copyright law), to reverse-engineer it (that's how the x86 architecture came to rule the world), to re-sell, rent or otherwise cede any of these rights).
What an usual EULA does is make you renounce some of the rights you had when you bought the thing, in exchange for letting you use it (when you actually have a right to use it in the first place). The fact that most commercial EULAs contain some crap about "unauthorized copying and distribution blah blah..." does not mean a thing, legally speaking, because you're not allowed to distribute software without explicit permission from the copyright owner anyway - that's covered by copyright law.
The GPL constitutes such an explicit permission (and it is not an EULA, it is a true license - a document by which the copyright owners grant you some rights wrt their work). It does not place limits on how you can use the thing you bought or otherwise acquired (in fact it states explicitly that you can do as you damn well please), but in fact also gives the right to distribute it, only placing conditions on how you can distribute it - which is well within the rights of the copyright holder.
No, it won't. Once you have a sufficiently detailed model (which may be impossible if quantum effects play a significant part in neurophysiology, as is sometimes suggested), you could run it in a simple (by comparison) physics machine - a simulated environment physical environment used as an interface, no need for a direct hookup. Maybe you really should have read Accelerando :).
Set a 5-second delay on "read" marker, use the five seconds to trash the junk and/or mark the spam, have your mail client auto-move the rest of your read messages to a "read" folder, filter on subject/list/whatever from there. No extensions needed.
You provided the first good laugh I had today. Thank you very much, kind sir.
"I don't really think that's a "practical" issue. They knew the area down to a few square miles for a short time. A few baby nukes, and the odds favor having gotten the target. "
Do the math. "A few" - say ten or so in the 10-25 kt range, airdropped - is not nearly enough to crumble a system of mountain caves a mere five miles across and half deep. What odds?
What are you saying here? A vector, in common parlance, is a direction. So you are saying... ?
Sorry. Old-time eastern bloc terminology, not common parlance. A vector is a means of delivery. Those soldiers didn't actually get to the mouths of those caves so some form of missile or bomb would have had to be used - and the RNEP only exists in budget appropriation wet dreams.
"I don't see how you can make a case that Bush cares about the people of Afghanistan from the evidence, though it might be amusing to see you try."
I won't try. Would you accept the idea that Bush's minders are trying their best not to lose Pakistan to the globalist Islamic movement, for instance? It doesn't matter if the fallout is a real threat or not - the pakis would be shaken by it no end.
"No, no. You just tell them what you're doing. [...] I don't buy your assertion here for a moment."
Do they believe you? Does their aging, mostly automated, severely underfunded early warning system believe you when you actually do launch, at a target which is actually (literally) next door? Russia has expressed concern over not being able to tell nuclear-warhead-carrying sub-launched ICBMs from the proposed tungsten rod dropper thingys. Willing to make a bet that the Topol-M (which, make no mistake, *would* be dispersed and possibly alerted, simply as a matter of common precaution) will not find their targets if a cock-up occurs? Good luck.
"If they had nukes, they would have already used them."
No. "They" (or their constituencies) may have morals (far-fetched, I know), or "they" may have only one and no means of getting another. I can build a dozen scenarios where a threat is a more valuable political tool than the actual use (including the real-world scenario we call the cold war) but I'm sure you're intelligent enough to make up some of your own. Why you don't is beyond me.
"The reason people don't buy is because they really don't understand nuclear weapons."
You misunderstand, possibly in order to build a straw-man argument. What I am saying is that real-world political concerns stopped GWB and his cronies from pushing that big red button, not some pie-in-the-sky notions about what the American public would "accept" after the fact or fear of the bomb itself.
Offtopic in response to a troll, yes, but I can't resist.
"You" (meaning americans, I presume) haven't nuked the caves in Afghanistan because it wouldn't have been practical, from a number of viewpoints (lack of intel as to which caves to nuke, lack of an effective vector, fallout patterns, certain political backlash from everyone and their dog, possible accidental nuclear response from Russia if ICBMs/cruise missiles are used, possible nuclear retaliation from non-state actors), not because it isn't a nice thing to do. Realpolitik, baby, and stop pretending otherwise - no-one is buying.
Yes, yes. Keep thinking that. You've successfully established yourself as a doormat, buddy. What do YOU do when your doormat wears out?
Flipping burgers at least is a job with clear-cut work-hours and zero responsibility. Also, it takes not more than the intelligence and dedication of your average parakeet over the space of say six to eight months to become a senior burger flipper (shift manager as they're called). Don't ditch it until you've tried it.
Bullshit places like that are easy to game. Do not do everything requested - do ninety percent and make sure you keep a balance so that once in a while something important you work on doesn't get done - because you delivered at the last possible second. No-one will think of increasing your workload then.
Oh yea. But please keep in mind that the enemies you encounter in that subway scene are killable (yes, that includes Anna and/or Gunther). I didn't have the time or inclination to try to actually win the battle (any hits you take past, say 30% health will render you unconscious, making it obvious in an out-of-game way that you're not really supposed to escape). I wonder if... Oh no. Now you've done it. Now I just have to see if it's doable. Thanks a lot, man.
Speaking of losing... you can save the helicopter pilot, but losing makes for a more interesting/emotional story imo.
Realistically, I am going to politely ask the store manager and the two rentacops accompanying him/her to walk away and let me leave or face criminal charges (for attempted extortion and kidnapping) and a civil lawsuit. I am under no responsibility to correct anyone's mistakes.If they don't, I call the police on their sorry asses (and make sure to notify their superiors as well after calling my lawyer).
But not to worry. Brick-and-mortar stores make these kind of mistakes all the time and no, they don't go after the directly involved customers - instead they lump it under operating costs, along with other losses (rotting, mice, theft by employees, faulty hardware etc.) and spread it evenly to ALL customers in the form of markup.
This is probably a move by some idiot middle manager who is afraid the money will come out of his/her pocket if s/he is found guilty.
Wanna play spy games? Here's something useful that has been around since at least the nineteen-fifties: fingerprint-masking cream. Lots of versions, looks exactly like skin (some even crease to form pseudo-prints when dry). Never leave home without it.
You won't lose it, ever. It will get "stolen" ... by "angry rioters" with... um... "guns!". Yea, that's the ticket. Can you spell "force majeure"?
Since the discussion is still open, I'll take the bite: it's because mIRC is such a pig that paying for script addons to enhance it would be like paying for an antivirus to go with your brand-new Windows ME install - today. Dig?
What if they don't? What if they just pass through, for instance, and go on to constitute much of the "missing mass" of this universe? What if you manage to place such a hole in the very close company of a lot of real particles which have almost the same velocity as itself (such as an accelerator)? How big are those cross-sections then?
There is an option to disable UAC completely, if that's what you were looking for.
Pwahahaha. You missed the reference, kind sir. Therefore, the irony of the gp post went right over your head. Wish there was an Involuntarily Funny mod. You amply deserve it.