If it is truly a violation of the law, I'm all for punishing them. However, that has yet to be shown so don't run an argument that assumes this. The problem here is, Sony isn't the one being primarily hurt. It the people that are the ones being primarily hurt. This isn't even vigilante justice, this is probably more attention grabbing more than anything else. And sadly, yes it will lead to justifications for taking away our freedoms. It is a pattern that is all too common.
What are they trying to prove at this point?
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That the hacking community has 0 sense of morality at this point? That is more and more the impression I'm getting. This isn't going to help. If anything it is going to be more fuel to the camp that wants our governments to have insane legal powers to combat this stupidity.
Software Patent, maybe even patents in general HAVE TO GO! I don't think a single week passes without me hearing about yet another stupid patent suit. They've long since outlived your usefulness.
As others have pointed out, though, Amazon is not the one responsible for collecting it. The state resident is the one who is responsible for paying, it is just near impossible to enforce this.
No. I likewise don't need a broad band connection, a decently fast computer... hell, I might be able to manage with some paper, a pencil and candle light just so long as I can get that code into the computer at the end. However, would that hurt my coding speed, oh yeah. A second monitor is like any tool for a job, you can probably get by without it, but like trying to clean your house with a toothbrush, it won't be nearly as cost effective.
This is talking to your average home user, and guess what, Linux is not exactly a popular desktop OS. It certainly has it's draw, but switching over to it just is a non-starter for most people. You'll also note they talked about Mac OS upgrades too, not just windows 7. Windows 7 upgrade was mentioned specifically if they were already using a windows OS.
Presumably al non-simple functions would be controlled by voice, but frankly, I'd hate that. Like you say, the whole Minority Report thing often gets people excited, but in the end, the classic solution is less intrusive and more accurate.
I can't really say Apple is doing anything wrong here. They have not only the option to disable said purchases available, they also went the extra step of modifying their password handling. Seems just like another case of stupid parenting to me.
I would say the claim was implied since they were producing the product that was competing. If the certification was irrelevant, than bringing it up (particularly falsely as they did) is highly suspect.
When I first heard of this story, I thought it was just some government agency not dotting it's 'i's in the paper work. Now it's really starting to look like some serious BS was going on.
All the better, that way that can use the 'think of the children' line to set precedent before they use the law for more nefarious purposes. That's sadly the way your rights always get chipped away at, get a law made or precedent set in overly dramatic case A, so now you can apply it to cases X, Y and Z which are far from the circumstances of A.
As far as I know, doesn't matter that it is older, or that they didn't personally develop it. It is still copyrighted, and unless someone can show it was given to public domain, EA is within their rights to do this.
I think what he is misfiring at is not.NET but rather the whole idea of using a high level development tool suite. His thinking is that you become overly dependent on these environments and either can't think outside their box, or it will take you excessive amounts of time to do so. Where he misfires is number 1 that those types of tools exist for many languages, not just.NET. Number 2, he makes out like even contact with.NET is enough to erode your skills, which is just stupid thinking. And finally number 3, he assumes that the net gain of using a high level tool suite like.NET is actually lower than avoiding said tools and doing it 'the old fashion way'.
Yeah, I'm not really sure where they get that myself, especially having dealt with a true anti-modular language myself (it is literally impossible to have two bits of code not know about each other under certain circumstance and work right). Perhaps in practice a lot of programmer break from modularity when using OOP, but that doesn't make OO anti-modular, just not rigorously modular. Most powerful languages, regardless of their intent, assume that you know what you're doing and let you break their fundamental design paradigms to get job done.
Can't remember the exact show, think it was CSI Miami. They analyzing a photo, already infamously inaccurate on CSI, but then the main characters says "digitize it". WTF, it already on the computer and digitized man! Oh, and of course, it magically makes the photo clearer... ugh!
Indeed. Not only are most trolls deliberately acting jerkish, and often obtuse, but if you even hint at agreeing with them, or giving ground to them, you'll not gain anything as generally they are not interested in budging an inch (in fact, most I've met will back up to even more absurd reasoning if you start giving ground), but probably even more importantly you'll annoy other posters. It is just plain and simple a losing battle. Don't even start.
You mean FOURTH amendment right? First amendment doesn't really protect against this at all. Not really that even the fourth applies here since Sony got the court to grant the request.
Number 1, they are private videos, so you can't.
Number 2, do you dislike Geo? Because that is the only thing you'd be doing, hurting him. One of the main points in the case is that he made said videos private so they would not be viewable to comply with the court order. If you viewed them now, you would put him into contempt of court. Sony would love you for it.
I think the problem is that this is more likely to bring up fictitious weaknesses that true ones. Haven't listened to many anti-evolution or anti-climate change arguments, most are full of serious flaws in facts or knowledge of other scientific principles they appeal to (ie 'evolution is untrue because it violates the laws of thermodynamics'). Others have this bad habit of bring up the irrelevant as if it is relevant (ie 'evolution can't explain where the moon came from').
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If it is truly a violation of the law, I'm all for punishing them. However, that has yet to be shown so don't run an argument that assumes this. The problem here is, Sony isn't the one being primarily hurt. It the people that are the ones being primarily hurt. This isn't even vigilante justice, this is probably more attention grabbing more than anything else. And sadly, yes it will lead to justifications for taking away our freedoms. It is a pattern that is all too common.
That the hacking community has 0 sense of morality at this point? That is more and more the impression I'm getting. This isn't going to help. If anything it is going to be more fuel to the camp that wants our governments to have insane legal powers to combat this stupidity.
Software Patent, maybe even patents in general HAVE TO GO! I don't think a single week passes without me hearing about yet another stupid patent suit. They've long since outlived your usefulness.
Now the question is, how many air crashes have been due to pilot error versus those due to software error. I suspect software has the better record.
As others have pointed out, though, Amazon is not the one responsible for collecting it. The state resident is the one who is responsible for paying, it is just near impossible to enforce this.
...Die by the sword. Let's all hope it works out and Righthaven gets justly crushed.
No. I likewise don't need a broad band connection, a decently fast computer... hell, I might be able to manage with some paper, a pencil and candle light just so long as I can get that code into the computer at the end. However, would that hurt my coding speed, oh yeah. A second monitor is like any tool for a job, you can probably get by without it, but like trying to clean your house with a toothbrush, it won't be nearly as cost effective.
They talked about both Windows and Mac (unlike the summary). Windows upgrade to Windows 7, likewise for Mac, old to newest.
This is talking to your average home user, and guess what, Linux is not exactly a popular desktop OS. It certainly has it's draw, but switching over to it just is a non-starter for most people. You'll also note they talked about Mac OS upgrades too, not just windows 7. Windows 7 upgrade was mentioned specifically if they were already using a windows OS.
I think it is. It's called perjury as far as I know. Of course, someone actually has to bring the charge up.
Presumably al non-simple functions would be controlled by voice, but frankly, I'd hate that. Like you say, the whole Minority Report thing often gets people excited, but in the end, the classic solution is less intrusive and more accurate.
I just want a better search and replace, and the stupid web layout to work. Seems neither project can get these right.
I can't really say Apple is doing anything wrong here. They have not only the option to disable said purchases available, they also went the extra step of modifying their password handling. Seems just like another case of stupid parenting to me.
I would say the claim was implied since they were producing the product that was competing. If the certification was irrelevant, than bringing it up (particularly falsely as they did) is highly suspect.
When I first heard of this story, I thought it was just some government agency not dotting it's 'i's in the paper work. Now it's really starting to look like some serious BS was going on.
All the better, that way that can use the 'think of the children' line to set precedent before they use the law for more nefarious purposes. That's sadly the way your rights always get chipped away at, get a law made or precedent set in overly dramatic case A, so now you can apply it to cases X, Y and Z which are far from the circumstances of A.
As far as I know, doesn't matter that it is older, or that they didn't personally develop it. It is still copyrighted, and unless someone can show it was given to public domain, EA is within their rights to do this.
I think what he is misfiring at is not .NET but rather the whole idea of using a high level development tool suite. His thinking is that you become overly dependent on these environments and either can't think outside their box, or it will take you excessive amounts of time to do so. Where he misfires is number 1 that those types of tools exist for many languages, not just .NET. Number 2, he makes out like even contact with .NET is enough to erode your skills, which is just stupid thinking. And finally number 3, he assumes that the net gain of using a high level tool suite like .NET is actually lower than avoiding said tools and doing it 'the old fashion way'.
Yeah, I'm not really sure where they get that myself, especially having dealt with a true anti-modular language myself (it is literally impossible to have two bits of code not know about each other under certain circumstance and work right). Perhaps in practice a lot of programmer break from modularity when using OOP, but that doesn't make OO anti-modular, just not rigorously modular. Most powerful languages, regardless of their intent, assume that you know what you're doing and let you break their fundamental design paradigms to get job done.
You sir are way, WAY too kind. :P
Can't remember the exact show, think it was CSI Miami. They analyzing a photo, already infamously inaccurate on CSI, but then the main characters says "digitize it". WTF, it already on the computer and digitized man! Oh, and of course, it magically makes the photo clearer... ugh!
Indeed. Not only are most trolls deliberately acting jerkish, and often obtuse, but if you even hint at agreeing with them, or giving ground to them, you'll not gain anything as generally they are not interested in budging an inch (in fact, most I've met will back up to even more absurd reasoning if you start giving ground), but probably even more importantly you'll annoy other posters. It is just plain and simple a losing battle. Don't even start.
You mean FOURTH amendment right? First amendment doesn't really protect against this at all. Not really that even the fourth applies here since Sony got the court to grant the request.
Number 1, they are private videos, so you can't. Number 2, do you dislike Geo? Because that is the only thing you'd be doing, hurting him. One of the main points in the case is that he made said videos private so they would not be viewable to comply with the court order. If you viewed them now, you would put him into contempt of court. Sony would love you for it.
I think the problem is that this is more likely to bring up fictitious weaknesses that true ones. Haven't listened to many anti-evolution or anti-climate change arguments, most are full of serious flaws in facts or knowledge of other scientific principles they appeal to (ie 'evolution is untrue because it violates the laws of thermodynamics'). Others have this bad habit of bring up the irrelevant as if it is relevant (ie 'evolution can't explain where the moon came from').