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The slick thing would be for competing search engines to 'crawl' google itself.
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Netscape really wasn't free. It was supposed to be shareware, and was supposed to make money for Netscape. Granted, the Netscape company planned to 'hook' people in with proprietary extensions to HTML and use the pervasive browser to sell server technology, and so they were rather lax about collecting the money.
Netscape wasn't 'free' until Microsoft showed up and was free. It also was closed source.
Given the size of the collection of valid numbers that they're presumably going to accumulate, perhaps they have a better chance of finding a pattern that lets them increase their odds. Did you even think about the question the grandparent comment was asking??
I think it somewhat parallels 'moving from an expensive state to a less expensive state.'
I sold a two bedroom townhouse in Minnesota (it wasn't a 'nice' townhouse and it was out in a third fringe suburb, not downtown) and for exactly the same price got a 100 year old house on five acres in rural Indiana. There aren't the same jobs here but there's a livelihood. We get by and live 'the good life' have five acres of land to putter around on, and I'm a five minute bicycle ride from a nice small 'college' town. And a twenty minute drive from the mall, thought I'm not mall-inclined for the most part.
You don't necessarily have to 'move back' to the UK. Ever.
A removable HD tray would represent a TREMENDOUS additional cost.
It would have to be an expensive hot-pluggable one, coupled with smart software that allowed it to be safely hot plugged, and/or it had an expensive interlocking system preventing it from being unplugged when the system is powered.
If it was the cheap $20 tray you refer to, there would be immense warranty and tech support costs because people would be crashing their hardware/software at a far higher rate than they do now. Tech support for all the damaged equipment gets expensive.
Worse than that, you couldn't even connect telephone equipment to the phone line coming into your house. You had to have a qualified tech from the telephone company come out and connect it. And there were a very limited number of items they'd allow to be connected. The good old days of 110 and 300 baud modems...
I have only ever bought a computer once in my life that had Microsoft preinstalled on it. But, of course, that was a laptop bought new, which is something I've only ever done once (ended up returning that laptop, too). Maybe that disqualifies me from discussing 'preinstalls' since it seems such an irrational thing to do. (I have so many cases here that it would seem insane to buy one in a fancy screen-printed cardboard box with all the components already installed in it)
IBM didn't "keep on trying until OS/2 Warp." They for the most part succeeded. They released OS/2 Warp, and then several successful versions after OS/2 Warp. Not as successful as Windows, of course, but they were good, solid operating systems.
There are more, complex, details about how and why OS/2 failed. But you make it sound like OS/2 was a technical failure. It most certainly was not.
That 'error message dialogue' was only 'featured' in pre-release versions of Windows that some journalist reviewers were given. It never made it into the shipping code.
Which makes a certain amount of sense. Microsoft probably hadn't done the regression testing of Windows on DR-DOS that would be necessary for them to make any promises how it would perform.
Patents remain in force for relatively short time durations. Certainly in the case of 'Ma Bell' their patents weren't what kept them a monopoly. They thrived for decades, much longer than 'patents' last. And likewise for IBM, for the most part.
Sounds like a biased study. But, then, we're now talking about bias and meta-bias.
I listen to NPR in the car all the time, too. But I'm not going to pretend they're balanced. Though they're less off-balance than they used to be, and there are definitely some programs that lean one way more left or right.
I've gotten the feeling for a long time that Microsoft is more comfortable selling Mac Office as a home-office software product than as a Corporate desktop product. For this reason, they don't really emphasize the 'corporate desktop' connectivity features on Mac Office, which is really important for Windows Office.
Well, a lot of companies want to 'stay close' to their competitors by keeping a bunch of their competitor's gear around and in operation. I worked at a company that made printers, and there were plenty of competitor's printers around, even in regular usage. The company, though, also made addins and upgrades for competitor printers, so it made a lot of sense in that company's case. And when the R&D people get done tearing down and figuring out the other guy's gear, it makes sense to give it to a secretary somewhere in the company to acually use.
IE 5 for Mac is still a viable, indeed possibly the best, choice if you're still running MacOS 9. And if you've got an older G3 machine, OS 9 is still a viable option. As long as you don't tell Steve Jobs you're still running it, of course.
The Mozilla ports to MacOS 9 are dog slow on the kind of hardware that OS 9 typically runs on. You use IE 5, or Netscape 4, or fool around with things like CyberDog. Not that bad a set of choices, when you want to get online with a machine for under $10 total cost.
Schools are throwing out 7300s and even beige G3's now. I got a skid of that sort of machine, though there were only two or three G3's, for $15 about a month ago. People still buy stuff that old on eBay if you price it right.
I don't think schools are accepting that kind of hardware any longer.
The thing I find most annoying about 'browser-only browsers' in general is that I've really started to like having a concurrent 'composer' built in. I often times save formatted 'web' content by cutting and pasting it from the Mozilla Browser to the Mozilla Composer. There's a handly icon on the lower left of the status bar of Mozilla (1.5) for that purpose.
I used to be foolish enough to do the same thing with Internet Explorer (eesh!) using Microsoft Word. What a nightmare that becomes.)
To your comment about mailto: links: Mozilla here opens a link to the email program I use, which is Eudora. Isn't that how things are supposed to work? Is Firebird broken in that regard?
Linux driver support for graphic cards are an interesting case. There are cards for which XFree86 support has been abandoned. The S3-Trio64 cards are an example of this. When it gets mentioned people who 'take sides' give the same answer ("get a new graphic card!") that we used to hear exclusively from Windows advocates.
My father worked at IBM for 27 years before retiring. He started as a programmer on the IBM 650. I still have a wooden 'Think' desk sign, and various other IBM oriented items like a System 360 Ash Tray.
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The slick thing would be for competing search engines to 'crawl' google itself.
Netscape really wasn't free. It was supposed to be shareware, and was supposed to make money for Netscape. Granted, the Netscape company planned to 'hook' people in with proprietary extensions to HTML and use the pervasive browser to sell server technology, and so they were rather lax about collecting the money.
Netscape wasn't 'free' until Microsoft showed up and was free. It also was closed source.
You can 'type basic memos' with vi or even cat. Give OpenOffice some credit where credit is due.
Given the size of the collection of valid numbers that they're presumably going to accumulate, perhaps they have a better chance of finding a pattern that lets them increase their odds. Did you even think about the question the grandparent comment was asking??
I think it somewhat parallels 'moving from an expensive state to a less expensive state.'
I sold a two bedroom townhouse in Minnesota (it wasn't a 'nice' townhouse and it was out in a third fringe suburb, not downtown) and for exactly the same price got a 100 year old house on five acres in rural Indiana. There aren't the same jobs here but there's a livelihood. We get by and live 'the good life' have five acres of land to putter around on, and I'm a five minute bicycle ride from a nice small 'college' town. And a twenty minute drive from the mall, thought I'm not mall-inclined for the most part.
You don't necessarily have to 'move back' to the UK. Ever.
26.3%, which is more than 16 but still way less than 30..
Umm, it's more than twice as close to 30% as it is to 16%
A removable HD tray would represent a TREMENDOUS additional cost.
It would have to be an expensive hot-pluggable one, coupled with smart software that allowed it to be safely hot plugged, and/or it had an expensive interlocking system preventing it from being unplugged when the system is powered.
If it was the cheap $20 tray you refer to, there would be immense warranty and tech support costs because people would be crashing their hardware/software at a far higher rate than they do now. Tech support for all the damaged equipment gets expensive.
Worse than that, you couldn't even connect telephone equipment to the phone line coming into your house. You had to have a qualified tech from the telephone company come out and connect it. And there were a very limited number of items they'd allow to be connected. The good old days of 110 and 300 baud modems...
I have only ever bought a computer once in my life that had Microsoft preinstalled on it. But, of course, that was a laptop bought new, which is something I've only ever done once (ended up returning that laptop, too). Maybe that disqualifies me from discussing 'preinstalls' since it seems such an irrational thing to do. (I have so many cases here that it would seem insane to buy one in a fancy screen-printed cardboard box with all the components already installed in it)
IBM didn't "keep on trying until OS/2 Warp." They for the most part succeeded. They released OS/2 Warp, and then several successful versions after OS/2 Warp. Not as successful as Windows, of course, but they were good, solid operating systems.
There are more, complex, details about how and why OS/2 failed. But you make it sound like OS/2 was a technical failure. It most certainly was not.
That 'error message dialogue' was only 'featured' in pre-release versions of Windows that some journalist reviewers were given. It never made it into the shipping code.
Which makes a certain amount of sense. Microsoft probably hadn't done the regression testing of Windows on DR-DOS that would be necessary for them to make any promises how it would perform.
Patents remain in force for relatively short time durations. Certainly in the case of 'Ma Bell' their patents weren't what kept them a monopoly. They thrived for decades, much longer than 'patents' last. And likewise for IBM, for the most part.
Sounds like a biased study. But, then, we're now talking about bias and meta-bias.
I listen to NPR in the car all the time, too. But I'm not going to pretend they're balanced. Though they're less off-balance than they used to be, and there are definitely some programs that lean one way more left or right.
I bet it's much much more detrimental to your career to use a Windows Laptop at Sun, or at Apple.
I've gotten the feeling for a long time that Microsoft is more comfortable selling Mac Office as a home-office software product than as a Corporate desktop product. For this reason, they don't really emphasize the 'corporate desktop' connectivity features on Mac Office, which is really important for Windows Office.
Well, a lot of companies want to 'stay close' to their competitors by keeping a bunch of their competitor's gear around and in operation. I worked at a company that made printers, and there were plenty of competitor's printers around, even in regular usage. The company, though, also made addins and upgrades for competitor printers, so it made a lot of sense in that company's case. And when the R&D people get done tearing down and figuring out the other guy's gear, it makes sense to give it to a secretary somewhere in the company to acually use.
I just got some satisfaction from doing that "Start > Run > wab" routine on my W2K box, and looking at the completely empty address book.
IE 5 for Mac is still a viable, indeed possibly the best, choice if you're still running MacOS 9. And if you've got an older G3 machine, OS 9 is still a viable option. As long as you don't tell Steve Jobs you're still running it, of course.
The Mozilla ports to MacOS 9 are dog slow on the kind of hardware that OS 9 typically runs on. You use IE 5, or Netscape 4, or fool around with things like CyberDog. Not that bad a set of choices, when you want to get online with a machine for under $10 total cost.
Schools are throwing out 7300s and even beige G3's now. I got a skid of that sort of machine, though there were only two or three G3's, for $15 about a month ago. People still buy stuff that old on eBay if you price it right.
I don't think schools are accepting that kind of hardware any longer.
I have Microsoft QuickBasic for Macintosh, from the 80's.
Also because their per-unit profit for selling Office for Mac was higher than the profit selling Office for Windows.
Communism isn't illegal. Particularly, it's not illegal to condone it in online forums.
Why did you feel the need to make your comment as an A.C.?
J. Edgar Hoover is dead, ya know.
And who pays his expenses when he goes to UN summits? no one. WSIS? no one. FTC discussions? no one. List of other non-invited engagements? no one.
Won't somebody please, oh please, pay him to attend ANSI-C standards committee meetings??
The thing I find most annoying about 'browser-only browsers' in general is that I've really started to like having a concurrent 'composer' built in. I often times save formatted 'web' content by cutting and pasting it from the Mozilla Browser to the Mozilla Composer. There's a handly icon on the lower left of the status bar of Mozilla (1.5) for that purpose.
I used to be foolish enough to do the same thing with Internet Explorer (eesh!) using Microsoft Word. What a nightmare that becomes.)
To your comment about mailto: links: Mozilla here opens a link to the email program I use, which is Eudora. Isn't that how things are supposed to work? Is Firebird broken in that regard?
Graphics cards are a different issue.
Linux driver support for graphic cards are an interesting case. There are cards for which XFree86 support has been abandoned. The S3-Trio64 cards are an example of this. When it gets mentioned people who 'take sides' give the same answer ("get a new graphic card!") that we used to hear exclusively from Windows advocates.
Same as it ever was.
My father worked at IBM for 27 years before retiring. He started as a programmer on the IBM 650. I still have a wooden 'Think' desk sign, and various other IBM oriented items like a System 360 Ash Tray.