1) I did not call Germans racist, I called the poster racist. This is evident from him calling India a shabby country.
Fair enough. However, if you do insist on careful reading, let's look again at what he said,
India is not the country of geeky IT gurus, it's just a shabby country as every other country...
If you take the word "shabby" with a pinch of salt, and, above all, honour that he said AS EVERY OTHER COUNTRY (that includes his, own, Germany, doesn't it?) you don't need much of a good will to realize that he meant something like ordinary country, in contrast to the IT dreamland full of software wizards India is often falsely imagined (and feared) to be.
2) I did not say that the company undermined the Indians work (after all, as you said, they hired them). I said that the the Poster and his German collegues probably undermined the effor of the Indians there, wasting company resources in the process.
Maybe that is what you intended to say. What you did say was "...I have no doubt that you must have tried you best to undermine any work the Indians did." That is pretty unmistakable.
Perhaps hateful or ignorant would be more accurate.
I wouldn't even say hateful, but ignorant seems adequate. I agree with you that judging a whole country is impossible in general, no matter if based on three or three thousand individuals. Yet, ignorance is wide-spread, by no means a german peculiarity and quite far away from racism.
His post may not show a lot of insight or open-mindedness, but yours is far worse. Amazing how quickly people call Germans racist when they dare critisize foreigners - where is the racism in his post, pray tell? It is the most normal thing in the world that a company expects its employees to comply with the company rules and keep up with their quality standards. With no evidential ground whatsoever you simply assume that it wasn't the indians in his company who failed to do so, but that the company failed to adapt to its indian employees, even "undermine" their work out of racistic motives (after selectively hiring Indians in the first place... yeah right). This is what I call a biased and narrow-minded attitude.
It seems every time a story gets submitted here about ESA and new technologies they're trying to develop, most of the comments are negative.
Sigh. I also get the impression that ESA-related news on./ often enough are not actually worth posting. Like this one, IMHO. That makes it a cakewalk for numerous dolts to get cheap ego boosts by picking it apart.
VEGA is not news because, obviously, it is not really new. Nobody even claims so. Its a reconfiguration of existing technology.
Yes. You're a real hero, AC.
No brain, no wits, just childish self-adulation. But hey, I'm sure you contributed a few tax cents to your nation's triumph.
America is not the biggest polluter, intentional or otherwise: China and Russia are, followed by many of their previous holdings in Africa and South America. People just go after America though. It's uncanny.
Is that per capita or absolute?
I chose your post for a reply, because though cheapest flamebait, it shows so neatly that you're no better than the Europeans when it comes to stupid stereotyping.
Let's begin by saying that virtually all you stated is downright bogus.
all this is, is the european union trying to say "hey look america! we can be like you too!"
No. All this is, is you showing off an incredibly narrow, US-centric view and naive extrapolation from your own motives. Try and find any European who seriously thinks like that. Believe it or not, we occasionally do things without looking overseas what the US did.
in all honesty, it is, they unite together to make their economy like the US', they try to make copyright laws like the US, and now they're trying to make us feel less superior by making a space program that will prolly never reach orbit.
Uniting economies is downright necessary in a world of global markets (and YES, there are others beside the US, and no small ones too!) and a natural process atop. Why this is anywhere 'like the US' remains your mystery. Copyright laws, well you certainly didn't bother to look at facts and details, probably because it would exceed your capacity. The biggest stunt however is this 'trying to make us feel less superior'. That is very ridiculous. Stupid EU, how dare we make even small technological steps? Can't we see how poor USA will feel slightly less superior! We really have to drop that at once. Would you feel OK if we deliberately went back to stone age, hm?
honestly, as much as europe hates the US, they sure like to become like us in a lot of ways.
Yeah, we all hate you 24/7. European life is all about hating the US.
here is a paper, though not very recent, describing the use of GPUs to aid in realtime motion estimation. I believe the latest hardware could do miracles here, especially with a fast back channel like the PCI successor.
Quite some crowd feeling concerned with this.
Articles of this kind, obviously written from the perspective of a non-hardcore, non-geek or techie user who solely focuses on the job he's trying to do with a piece of software, really spoke my mind.
I've been using gimp for quite some years now, and altough I've gotten pretty used to the UI I never seriously considered it a match for Photoshop. No way close. Even the lastest version lacks substantial features like good color management or serious pre-print functions. The performance is not just a little worse, it's downright poor when compared to PS. There is no coherent help system, the workflow is random.
I don't demand anything from the GIMP guys. They've done a great job, and gimp certainly is the best you can get for free. Fair enough, none of the gimp crew ever claim world domination or make serious comparisons to PS. It's rather the geek fraction, advocating it mindlessly because it's open source, who annoys me.
I feel compelled to make a brief statement that might possibly be received as impolite:
BS
The long answer is: being german myself, I can assure you that no german person with a basic level of education and dignity will refer to Turks as "Germany's Niggers". Such a statement would be regarded as highly offensive throughout the society. Depending where and when it was said, it might even provoke some penal action.
Then, to assign today's germans a certain susceptibility to collective racism and therefore to demand that we be watchful, does not indicate a large degree of insightfullness on your side. We're not any more likely to repeat Nazism than you are likely to repeat slavery.
Rather old news perhaps, but the AMSAT organization planned to release a balloon in the martian atmosphere, in cooperation with the Mars society. Here's PDF document giving some details, and somewhere around there is an animation showing the balloon (admittedly quite boring).
...and many many tax dollars have been wasted, perhaps there will be less down the nose talk about ESA's small (and cheap!) module which apparently never seemed big enough for the Americans?
I'm not cliaming ESA really foresaw this desaster and consequently minimized their contribution, but whatever the reason, more tax USD than tax EUR burnt in the process.
Admittaly, the conditions are harsh, but bacteria and other animals grow here under harsher conditions. At the mars equator, there is warmth. There is a small atmosphere that will support micro aerophilic bacteria if there is water. We have bacterial life here that grows literally at the south pole. It is not as barren as many would claim.Likewise, we have lots of nematodes, alge, and bacteria that grows in the total absence of sunlight (feeding on valcano's sulfer). We have lived here for quite some time on this planet and we still have new life that shows up in strange locations. It is very possible for life as we know it to be on Mars (assuming that there is water), or for a different type of life
The main problem with Mars is that it has no magnetic field like earth, which would prevent high-energy solar particles from reaching the surface. Thus the surface of Mars is by far more sterile than any, say operating table, on earth ever will be. No cell-based, organic lifeform that we know of would have the slightest chance of surviving on the surface - without even considering the extreme temperature differences and the low pressure which is so low that the term 'less than ideal vacuum' actually fits better than 'atmosphere'.
That is not to say that life on Mars is impossible. It would have to be underground though (and quite deep too), like the anaerobic bacteriae that we find on earth - those feed on sulfuric compounds though, IIRC - do we have anything like that on Mars?
Can't beat Sat.
Bad weather is going to be a PITA if you have a small dish- the best amp is a good beam say the HAM's and I guess it hits here too. So get a good dish significantly larger than 1m in diameter, that's best for good reception. And mount it very solidly, avoid any objects in between, even trees... etc etc I'm sure you know that.
Don't know too much about sat modes in the US but here in Europe cable usually means offending boredom - if I want any reasonable TV, theres no way around satellite. Subscribing to non-local (i.e. other EU member countries) pay tv packages can be a pain though; thus... well: I love my box, he he he!
I'm not sure if you deliberately write it as you pronounce it, but in case you don't: it's "Ariane", not "Arianne". If that is a typo, it's a frequent one.
And Ariane is clearly not french. There is substantial french contribution, no doubt -above all the launch site- but Ariane is a European project.
I agree with you that Ariane 4 was abandoned with too great a haste- however, that step was inevitable sooner or later. Ariane 5, plus extensions, will be able to carry much larger payloads, and for smaller launches the Vega will take over for Ariane 4.
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I'd be thankful for just one sample where ESA expclicitly says they're 'better than the Americans'.
What ESA does, and I think you can't seriously bash them for that, is to point out with little modesty what parts of the Mars Express mission are novelties unparalleled as of yet (like the hi-res camera or the ground radar). No offence meant, but we do get boasty statements like that in large doses from the US all day long, and not just in space science.
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1) I did not call Germans racist, I called the poster racist. This is evident from him calling India a shabby country.
Fair enough. However, if you do insist on careful reading, let's look again at what he said,
India is not the country of geeky IT gurus, it's just a shabby country as every other country ...
If you take the word "shabby" with a pinch of salt, and, above all, honour that he said AS EVERY OTHER COUNTRY (that includes his, own, Germany, doesn't it?) you don't need much of a good will to realize that he meant something like ordinary country, in contrast to the IT dreamland full of software wizards India is often falsely imagined (and feared) to be.
2) I did not say that the company undermined the Indians work (after all, as you said, they hired them). I said that the the Poster and his German collegues probably undermined the effor of the Indians there, wasting company resources in the process.
Maybe that is what you intended to say. What you did say was "...I have no doubt that you must have tried you best to undermine any work the Indians did." That is pretty unmistakable.
Perhaps hateful or ignorant would be more accurate.
I wouldn't even say hateful, but ignorant seems adequate. I agree with you that judging a whole country is impossible in general, no matter if based on three or three thousand individuals. Yet, ignorance is wide-spread, by no means a german peculiarity and quite far away from racism.
His post may not show a lot of insight or open-mindedness, but yours is far worse. Amazing how quickly people call Germans racist when they dare critisize foreigners - where is the racism in his post, pray tell? It is the most normal thing in the world that a company expects its employees to comply with the company rules and keep up with their quality standards. With no evidential ground whatsoever you simply assume that it wasn't the indians in his company who failed to do so, but that the company failed to adapt to its indian employees, even "undermine" their work out of racistic motives (after selectively hiring Indians in the first place ... yeah right). This is what I call a biased and narrow-minded attitude.
Sigh. I also get the impression that ESA-related news on ./ often enough are not actually worth posting. Like this one, IMHO. That makes it a cakewalk for numerous dolts to get cheap ego boosts by picking it apart.
VEGA is not news because, obviously, it is not really new. Nobody even claims so. Its a reconfiguration of existing technology.
Yes. You're a real hero, AC.
No brain, no wits, just childish self-adulation. But hey, I'm sure you contributed a few tax cents to your nation's triumph.
America is not the biggest polluter, intentional or otherwise: China and Russia are, followed by many of their previous holdings in Africa and South America. People just go after America though. It's uncanny. Is that per capita or absolute?
I chose your post for a reply, because though cheapest flamebait, it shows so neatly that you're no better than the Europeans when it comes to stupid stereotyping.
Let's begin by saying that virtually all you stated is downright bogus.
all this is, is the european union trying to say "hey look america! we can be like you too!"
No. All this is, is you showing off an incredibly narrow, US-centric view and naive extrapolation from your own motives. Try and find any European who seriously thinks like that. Believe it or not, we occasionally do things without looking overseas what the US did.
in all honesty, it is, they unite together to make their economy like the US', they try to make copyright laws like the US, and now they're trying to make us feel less superior by making a space program that will prolly never reach orbit.
Uniting economies is downright necessary in a world of global markets (and YES, there are others beside the US, and no small ones too!) and a natural process atop. Why this is anywhere 'like the US' remains your mystery. Copyright laws, well you certainly didn't bother to look at facts and details, probably because it would exceed your capacity. The biggest stunt however is this 'trying to make us feel less superior'. That is very ridiculous. Stupid EU, how dare we make even small technological steps? Can't we see how poor USA will feel slightly less superior! We really have to drop that at once. Would you feel OK if we deliberately went back to stone age, hm?
honestly, as much as europe hates the US, they sure like to become like us in a lot of ways.
Yeah, we all hate you 24/7. European life is all about hating the US.
here is a paper, though not very recent, describing the use of GPUs to aid in realtime motion estimation. I believe the latest hardware could do miracles here, especially with a fast back channel like the PCI successor.
Quite some crowd feeling concerned with this. Articles of this kind, obviously written from the perspective of a non-hardcore, non-geek or techie user who solely focuses on the job he's trying to do with a piece of software, really spoke my mind. I've been using gimp for quite some years now, and altough I've gotten pretty used to the UI I never seriously considered it a match for Photoshop. No way close. Even the lastest version lacks substantial features like good color management or serious pre-print functions. The performance is not just a little worse, it's downright poor when compared to PS. There is no coherent help system, the workflow is random. I don't demand anything from the GIMP guys. They've done a great job, and gimp certainly is the best you can get for free. Fair enough, none of the gimp crew ever claim world domination or make serious comparisons to PS. It's rather the geek fraction, advocating it mindlessly because it's open source, who annoys me.
I feel compelled to make a brief statement that might possibly be received as impolite:
BS
The long answer is: being german myself, I can assure you that no german person with a basic level of education and dignity will refer to Turks as "Germany's Niggers". Such a statement would be regarded as highly offensive throughout the society. Depending where and when it was said, it might even provoke some penal action.
Then, to assign today's germans a certain susceptibility to collective racism and therefore to demand that we be watchful, does not indicate a large degree of insightfullness on your side. We're not any more likely to repeat Nazism than you are likely to repeat slavery.
Rather old news perhaps, but the AMSAT organization planned to release a balloon in the martian atmosphere, in cooperation with the Mars society. Here's PDF document giving some details, and somewhere around there is an animation showing the balloon (admittedly quite boring).
...and many many tax dollars have been wasted, perhaps there will be less down the nose talk about ESA's small (and cheap!) module which apparently never seemed big enough for the Americans?
I'm not cliaming ESA really foresaw this desaster and consequently minimized their contribution, but whatever the reason, more tax USD than tax EUR burnt in the process.
The main problem with Mars is that it has no magnetic field like earth, which would prevent high-energy solar particles from reaching the surface. Thus the surface of Mars is by far more sterile than any, say operating table, on earth ever will be. No cell-based, organic lifeform that we know of would have the slightest chance of surviving on the surface - without even considering the extreme temperature differences and the low pressure which is so low that the term 'less than ideal vacuum' actually fits better than 'atmosphere'.
That is not to say that life on Mars is impossible. It would have to be underground though (and quite deep too), like the anaerobic bacteriae that we find on earth - those feed on sulfuric compounds though, IIRC - do we have anything like that on Mars?
Can't beat Sat. Bad weather is going to be a PITA if you have a small dish- the best amp is a good beam say the HAM's and I guess it hits here too. So get a good dish significantly larger than 1m in diameter, that's best for good reception. And mount it very solidly, avoid any objects in between, even trees... etc etc I'm sure you know that. Don't know too much about sat modes in the US but here in Europe cable usually means offending boredom - if I want any reasonable TV, theres no way around satellite. Subscribing to non-local (i.e. other EU member countries) pay tv packages can be a pain though; thus ... well: I love my box, he he he!
I'm not sure if you deliberately write it as you pronounce it, but in case you don't: it's "Ariane", not "Arianne". If that is a typo, it's a frequent one. And Ariane is clearly not french. There is substantial french contribution, no doubt -above all the launch site- but Ariane is a European project. I agree with you that Ariane 4 was abandoned with too great a haste- however, that step was inevitable sooner or later. Ariane 5, plus extensions, will be able to carry much larger payloads, and for smaller launches the Vega will take over for Ariane 4.
I'd be thankful for just one sample where ESA expclicitly says they're 'better than the Americans'. What ESA does, and I think you can't seriously bash them for that, is to point out with little modesty what parts of the Mars Express mission are novelties unparalleled as of yet (like the hi-res camera or the ground radar). No offence meant, but we do get boasty statements like that in large doses from the US all day long, and not just in space science.